Guild Wars 2

I saw a post a while ago that go me thinking just how similar are the elementalist and the engineer? Anet has always given off the impression that engineer was suppose to be like our fun house mirror image. We are being of the elements and knowledge. They the masters of metal and knowledge. For every skill and trick we have the engineer have their own solution to the same problem. So are we really just lost brothers and sisters or are they just attempting to capture the glory that is an Elementalist?

Note: this isn’t a battle of what does more damage or whose better in PvP. This is a thread to compare the mechanics and nature of the 2 classes and how they are different/similar.

I’m gonna have to pass on the idea of a protest. tho I have to admit it be funny to see the faces of anet’s staff having a group of picketers outside their office.

oh that’s easy. I have NO intention of pleading an oath to this game. ArenaNet is not worthy of my loyality

Shademehr.1397:

I find the Wintersday JP to be very relaxing. Almost therapeutic. Especially the snowflake part. You can get into a good jumping rythm and after a while you’re actually making the next jump before the next snowflake even appears.

The Clocktower, was rage-inducing though.

I love them both.

Same here.

I don’t mind if it requires work and time. Least this way it feels like I’m making head way instead of having to pray to the RNG gods that it will only cost a few hundred gold to be blessed with a precursor. If I’ve learned anything in my time here. RNG hates my guts.
So if I’m given a second option I’m more then happy to decide for myself what path is more appealing to me.

my guess, Anet realized that giving 3-5 easy spores an event was a bad idea. I had quite a few that let me harvest several times. I’ve been known to walk away with 15-20 easy at times.

would it have made you feel better if the key had been the prize at the end of the story and had that injector as the meta? one way or the other we got a kitten sweet back piece so I’m not gonna complain.

Belenwyn.8674:

The dungeon offers fun to me. So I visit it from time to time.

oh its fun don’t get me wrong. If anything that is the reason I’m so disappointed in it this year. No real motivation to visit it.

^

OmaiGodman.2098:

Wow, that’s harsh. But I’m sure it’s not just the game that’s at fault, you probably just suck.

No this sounds like a bug/glitch. Human error wouldn’t account for the slingshot effect he gets. My guess its the result of removing the Que for the puzzle and the system is getting over worked.

What motivation do we have to even bother with this dungeon? 3 gifts and 2 greens? Hell anyone can get those in 1/10th the time it takes to finish. This dungeon offers us nothing.

Honestly I have to agree, I’m still for water and arcane. Mainly because the patch did nothing to my build. switched around some stuff but its exactly the same, just the order I put traits in XD

I was worried the shuffling was gonna make make take some of traits away but I’m still in the clear. for now.

Anyone here ever experience someone going crazy and raging quiting on them. Tell us your story.

Blackmoon.6837:

Chaotic Storm.2815:

You just know 100’s even 1000’s of Nerds are busy on the keyboards right now writing out Kasmeer/Marjory and Kasmeer/Tentacle fanfics now because of that dialog.

…and the problem would be what, exactly?

when did I say this was bad, just stating a fact

cranked.3812:

eekzie.5640:

No.

The toxic pollen is a really bad mechanic and I would hate to see it in a fractal.
There aren’t any proper fights except for the bosses there, but sadly they’re in a bad place for them to be fun.

This^^

We don’t need agony on us in combination with 7003049348734 other conditions that the devs thought would make the tower fun. The reason the other new fractals work well is because they were dungeon instances that were slightly reduced to a decent time level to coincide with what length fractals are supposed to be.

oh your mistaken, it won’t be seperate. knowing anet that pollen WILL be the thing to trigger agony.

CuRtoKy.8576:

Because they wanted to make it different from Arcane brilliance which works the same way except it does less damage and heals.

Arcane Blast is different to the heal skill than Arcane Wave. Plus Arcane Blast is like 1500 range.

If anything the healing skill should of been the ground targeting skill. Would of been more interesting if we could choose to use our healing skill to support melee by throwing the heal and damage down on them.

I’ve always thought of us as a jack of all trades, master of none. We’re the groups annoying little brother/sister tagging along.

because even underpowered it is still more interesting then some of the other classes.

You just know 100’s even 1000’s of Nerds are busy on the keyboards right now writing out Kasmeer/Marjory and Kasmeer/Tentacle fanfics now because of that dialog.

I don’t know… If necro has so much trouble trimming off 10% hp on a class that is famous for being squishy and having the lowest HP pool of all classes there might of other more urge matter to be focusing on.

is glory going somewhere?

you are aware this is for winters day right? the min this is over your home node will be the only source again. If anything this is helping people get a good strong push for charged quartz for a short time. If you feel its an insult to your long slow process that’s fine. Will all jump a few miles ahead of you while you continue with your method since you seem to be against the idea of easier access for a time.

dolyak escort in lions arch. Its triggered quite a bit. they keep dropping presents as they go, usual they catch up to each other halfway and then your getting between 15-30 easy every 10-15 mins (time may vary for servers)

most of them we’re ugly last year, this year my eyes just burn at the sight. bright side. only a few copper to get the whole collection for those who want it

Anyone else liking the changes? free rest spot/early end/ reset zone. no waiting periods.

I get a kick out of getting so far ahead I actually have to STOP jumping and wait for the next snowflake to form ahead.

1. considering there are 3 paths, and you can choose when you wanna go now and not have to do this in large groups. this complain is invalid to me.

2. They haven’t changed at all, they exploded later year, they will explode next year. The random nature IS the point of that climb other wise it be pointless. Tip= Jump once the red/whites have formed but not the blue ones. it is a pretty easy jump and it gives you a lot more time.

3. again the wind has always been there. Its in fixed spots so if you know its coming it shouldn’t blind side you.

excuse me while I drool

SIXMO.7042:

i will rally off a friend xD

thats the way, if the guys about to die from the boss you may as well put his death to good use.

cesmode.4257:

I myself have been having difficulty leveling my elementalist…
Ive tried d/d, staff, d/f.. I like staff but find the damage output to be a bit subpar. So I have to run with LH and use that when I can. D/D is good but only to blast fields and spamming through attunments…screw up and youre dead.

Maybe Im just doing it wrong, I dont know.

Its not always about blasting through attunement…most times. There are quite a few battles where I will some times blast through my D/D combos to get buffs up and going and then stay with 1 attunement for a good 30 seconds because of an effect it has to helps out groups.
Fire= For burning condition/ regular burst damage/ wide spread aoe field.
Water= for the regular healing/Invul/ extra range/ condition removal.
Air= Stuns/weakness.
Earth= Cripples/ Bleeds/ Burst.

And this is just with D/D. Staff, Scepter, Focus, they all have ability that can be amazing for different fights. Switching attunement is good when your waiting on cooldowns but it is no way a requirement to be an amazing elementalist. If anything some times powering through none stop can actually be a bad thing.

My advise, Take your time. Learn each element and its skills and slow but surely you’ll develope a natural body reaction and you’ll barely be aware your even switching attunements and it will just feel like 1 smooth flowing stream of actions and responses.

Rising Dusk.2408:

They could have the toxic hybrid as a boss fractal if they made him A LOT harder. I think that’d be pretty sweet.

He might still be possible. I’ve notice anet fixes or improves some of these bosses to match peoples complains so he COULD be upgraded. But it all fairness he was pretty well scaled depending on the number of players.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

I am a little bit disappointed by the way Aetherblade Retreat and Molten Facility were turned into dungeons. Large chunks of the original dungeons were cut off, and this is a terrible shame. The dungeons in their original design were really good, and it is a terrible loss when bits and pieces get shaved off just to fit it in the Fractals system.

So I’d rather not see them turn the Tower of Nightmares into a fractal, it would ruin it. I’d rather have them make the tower a permanent addition.

I do agree taking only some of the bosses from those dungeons is kind of a let down. It doesn’t have the same feel when its pretty much a quick run to the bosses. I did however squeal for joy when The Molten bosses returned. It is nice to see anet is at least preserving those 2 week dungeons in some small way even if it will never be the same.

If it possible I want anet to expand on the fractals and make it possible select the regular 4 short fractals or use a new system the asura (name escapes me) created and dive deeper into an event and do the whole dungeon as 1 large fractal.

Razor.6392:

Why do I want to inflict 800 damage again when I’m healing?

Anets way of saying “Hey we gave you a new attack skill, why you complaining your dps is still low”

AntiGw.9367:

Maybe if centaurs were riding bandits…

ingenious! they will make their enemies laugh themselves to death!

Esmee.1067:

Chaotic Storm.2815:

Hard to say, I got 2 very nice ones right now. My sylvari elementalist is semi biker chick (least as much as gaia outfits allow) and then my norn engineer with a very nice Space marine look going thanks to his new gas mask.

That sounds amazing!

Show them both?

I’ll try to when I get a chance

for my elementalist. Variety. Its the only class so far I didn’t get bored of within the first few months. despite some of its short coming.

When I started out elementalist when the game was released I actually gave it up for a while because I felt too squishy. months later I much more familar with dodge timing, kiting , combo and other critical importance and returned a much much stronger elementalist. My advise, learning and master the basics is critical to our survival. Dead players do no damage.

well considering the purpose of the fire ring is to burn people who cross it and the ring burst outwards from our body you would THINK that would happen. I’ve made that mistake a few times in the rush to throw out combo’s

Ozoug.4158:

This patch’s goal for the elementalist was to increase the power of the Earth, Air and Fire lines, while taking away some of the need to go into the Arcane line.

This line has always bothered me, with the expection of Fire. How is pushing traits around really gonna improve the power of Earth and Air.? Least with fire we’re seeing increases in %‘s and change arounds but I’m not really seeing anything in air or earth that’s jumping out as me and saying “I’m more powerful now!”

Is it just my imagination wanting to find Anet’s ever popular fail buffs?
If they really had wanted to increase the 3 why not just add an extra 5-10% damage increase to the weapon skills as well?

So we`re all dieing to know, are the lights off, on or do they blink?

I’ve never had a major challenge with this fight (in the bad way) If anything its very fun if your aware of how it goes.

My rules are pretty much. stay near (out of melee) till her shield is down. Then run like a little girl when she teleports to me before she can bury me in bleeds and conditions. The biggest rule that I try to remind people about, spread out for the barrage. It is alot easier to avoid the spray if people spread out enough that your not getting 2-3 peoples worth raining down on top of you and the area ahead.

if you need a certain fractal just go onto the LFG and put on the message your looking for that fractal and will be changing till you get it. I’ve seen a few groups doing that lately. and if you don’t have any luck I’d be willing to join that group if I’m online.

It has its challeng which is nice. for early fractals, I admit I’m not really experienced with fractals over the 10 mark. I never could get into them when it was first release. Least not in the way some people have been going so high up.

Anet what’s the chances of you adding in those oh so loveable skins you had dropping from the boss chests when they were full dungeons. I don’t expect them to sellable like before but I would like to continue to have a chances of getting account bound versions.

Hard to say, I got 2 very nice ones right now. My sylvari elementalist is semi biker chick (least as much as gaia outfits allow) and then my norn engineer with a very nice Space marine look going thanks to his new gas mask.

The same reason they didn’t release full outfits for other skins, something to sell later for the same price.

Witaminka.4650:

Ty ^^, its fine still looks like toy and candy cane, btw working on: freeze, hammer time, ho ho ho… i ll post it soon

While your at it, can I order a Marshmallow Hammer? cute sound effects included.

I can’t see that happening. Centaurs hate humans way to much. Not to mention the very idea of being used like a horse would destroy their pride.

I’m against and for this all at the same time.
Against= because way to many skills are aoe or can hit multiple targets in range and lets face it. melee will be crushed like a tin can under a moster truck if that happened.
Not to mention simple fights taken forever because everyones lining up single shots hoping not to hit anyone else.

For= I can think of the so many of my friends that I would love to be able to figuratively and literally smack in the back of the head. Not to mention some pugs.

knowing me and some of my friends we would forget we were even in a fractal and just start pulling highlander kitten on each other.

I think its because we can’t see if we hit them that makes it feel like their invincible. To peoples eyes its pretty much “Poof I’m gone” and a few seconds later a stab in the back with full life again.

I don’t PvP much but when I do its always the thiefs that get on my nerves with their peek-a-boo games.

I be so happy if Kessex Hills was permanetly altered. I don’t expect it to be completely altered but a very visible scar in the lake where the tower was or remains with remanets of the toxic alliance still protecting the ruins of their tower. That is how I want my living story to be. the continued evolution of tyria and not the never changing land it is now.