Guild Wars 2

I’m not impressed with the video, zerg wise. None of them where good, running after 4 people, into a choke point, ….y-eah no.

But the co-ordination and team work was very nice.

More so then not this doesn’t work and ‘code of conduct’ wouldn’t do much unless their account was severely punished for their actions. uknortherner is exactly right when he said “do not fall in line with their own personal view on how the game should evolve.” because there will always be some over zealous player who is willing to be a martyr for his/her own personal direction for a game they like.

12 hours if you cannot clear it in 20 minutes? I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous. I know how you feel, I’ve been killed near the end over 20 times. But I’m not going to change what it was designed around, PvP.

Prevent siege being built in the JP? I don’t mind that, but If you want a JP that doesn’t revolve around PvP, all the other ones are always there.

If ANet planned for raids they should have thought before they introduced FotM and Ascended gear – Because I know a lot of people that would take that as a third strike in such short time. If I want Raids I’d go back to WoW because they do it right, I could very well see exclusive things for raiders which will be another reason for the player base to freak.

This has already been mentioned before and I still doubt it’ll happen. I think culling will be the black mark on WvW in gw2 because it wont be fixed till it’s to late.

Thieves + certain D/D eles, rest are perfectly fine. tweaks here and there for some classes. But you know, thieves wont get nerfed. Culling wont be fixed any time soon. Oh well.

Besides, as you can see with CreativeAnarchy, Americans do play during that time. Log on during off-peak time, I dare you, all the players playing aren’t just Oceanic or possibly European, there is a whole lot of NA players.

You cannot even duel in sPvP, why would it be any different in WvW. >>

The Dreamer is another example, absolutely no footsteps. But I don’t see why they’d edit it in the future but that’s just me.

It will happen regardless, even the tankiest pet with the tankiest spec the pet will die. Just a matter of how often and how fast you can pet switch to avoid the long C/D.

At first I thought they’d be boring and repetitive, but they are actually the opposite. Surviving with one of them is enjoyable.

Frosty and Frosty Law Firm.4981:

Here’s to another year of being forgotten, swept under the rug, walked over by every other class and nerfed if we find a way to defend ourselves! Huzzah! Sips cranberry punch

This pretty much sums it up in a really sad way…

Jahn.7019:

JaredKincade.9761:

To the SoR who accuse TC of not fighting BG.

If it weren’t for TC’s push against cragtop, and into garrison (and controlling garrison’s supply) your ever powerful SoR NA primetime wouldn’t have gotten Garrison for quite a while yet. (also, maybe you should defend your own borderlands too? We loved having your garrison as much as you had ours).

Pink runs a great defense on TCBL night after night, and has solid tactics, and doesn’t run when we look at them funny. Anyone who says anything different doesn’t know what they are talking about. Here is how our VoIP goes.

“20 TC zerg coming up behind us”
“Is it Pink?”
“no”
“Ok, we can wipe them”

Be warned TC. After the garrison double team, you may find your borderlands with a few more green invaders next reset. :P

Think you missed the poster, it’s TC accusing SOR of not attacking BG.

This and I would like to sincerely apologize to SoR and retract my statements what I said was out of bounds and didn’t exactly come out the way I meant them to. I hope you will accept my apology and we can move on.

Kaggura.4839:

To the poster a few above, Autumn Skies is regularly always on in TCBL calling movement and positioning and is a very valuable asset to the entire server. I never post on these forums but felt compelled to given both your inflammatory statement that makes our server look like crybabies, and makes PINK look bad. We’re better than that, I would say – and I think many would agree as can be seen by our behavior during our FA, CD, and YB match ups.

Well honestly I’m glad I was proven wrong for my beliefs and will think before I post again – as for them, would have liked if it wasn’t personal.

Sunspots.9861:

Cloud.7613:

TheDevilWithinU.7092:

Cloud.7613:

Dao.8156:

BG still holding strong for as late as it is.

Not sure what SoR is doing. Playing for second place perhaps? Dunno, the strategy does not make much sense to me. It seems SoR has a chance at first if they push BG down during their off hours.

SoR always plays for second xD!

SoR plays for first. Plus people have work and things to attend to. You can’t expect everyone to be on every day at a specific time.

See ya on the battlefield.

If you say so … From what I’ve seen from last week and this week, SoR gets out played by BG at every corner. Picks on TC(easier target for points) and BG does it better. I guess better commanders I suppose.

Even if you believe this, I’m embarrassed for you and PINK you posted it. I’ll leave it at that in this public forum.

Orly? lol. Never heard of you. Hi.;

Even posting that embarrassed us both, thanks <3

Thrashbarg.9820:

Translation of OP: “How to kill a thief: outnumber and outplay them.”

Personally I can’t wait until the meta switches from teams of stealth herpaderpa-dps to teams of bunkers with tons of CC….. Ah the early days of an MMO when people are still unfamiliar with team play and looking for the way to “pwn noobs”. Remember these days in a year or two, when all the “Thief is useless in WvW!” threads take over these forums.

Yeah, I have a thief, and yeah, I think stealth needs some sort of nerf (or culling fix, but not holding my breath for that, since it likely requires technology to advance significantly). Shadow refuge still has a stupidly long duration, and the ability to chain stealth without getting “revealed” is game breaking in many cases (spent a long time last night with several people camping a mesmer corpse inside garrison while one cheese-perma-stealth thief ran in repeatedly to get bits of a rez on it, eventually it got up despite being nearly killed dozens of times, balance? hello?)….

I think everyone has to admit to themselves culling isn’t going anywhere, we may as well call it a feature at this point, if it gets fixed later, great, I’m excited at that prospect, but there has to be another way of dealing with it. The class isn’t broken per say, the stealth aspect needs urgent fixing though.

The only people who are standing up for thiefs being so broken(maybe not due to class design, but by culling) are thieves themselves.

I don’t have a problem with thieves dps, their escape mechanism is powerful but it’s fine. Invisibility(as I said, due to the culling) is absolutely broken. You attack them for 6 seconds, they get out of invisibility, you see the projectiles, but they haven’t rendered yet, you finally see them, oh nice, fully healed, 6 seconds later, invis again, rinse and repeat. I’ll be honest, I have a thief alt and while playing it, I feel like I’m a skilled player, then like all other non-thief dedicated players realize, It’s the mechanism, not the player and I’m a scrub again. Y-eah no, I don’t need to l2p, my class isn’t broken though.

It’s even weirder when you keep getting invited to cross server groups (European server) and they talk in another language to you.

DBR.9876:

Cloud.7613:

TheDevilWithinU.7092:

Cloud.7613:

Dao.8156:

BG still holding strong for as late as it is.

Not sure what SoR is doing. Playing for second place perhaps? Dunno, the strategy does not make much sense to me. It seems SoR has a chance at first if they push BG down during their off hours.

SoR always plays for second xD!

SoR plays for first. Plus people have work and things to attend to. You can’t expect everyone to be on every day at a specific time.

See ya on the battlefield.

If you say so … From what I’ve seen from last week and this week, SoR gets out played by BG at every corner. Picks on TC(easier target for points) and BG does it better. I guess better commanders I suppose.

Just wondering – did you look at BG borderlands on reset last night? SoR had Bay, Garrison, and 3 of the 4 towers on the map. TC had the remaining 2 structures (Hills and their Tower). I personally don’t see what you’re talking about with us picking on TC..

If you say so. A tip that may help you in the long run, attack BG, if they’re winning in points, TC will focus them. Or, you know, come second as planned.

TheDevilWithinU.7092:

Cloud.7613:

Dao.8156:

BG still holding strong for as late as it is.

Not sure what SoR is doing. Playing for second place perhaps? Dunno, the strategy does not make much sense to me. It seems SoR has a chance at first if they push BG down during their off hours.

SoR always plays for second xD!

SoR plays for first. Plus people have work and things to attend to. You can’t expect everyone to be on every day at a specific time.

See ya on the battlefield.

If you say so … From what I’ve seen from last week and this week, SoR gets out played by BG at every corner. Picks on TC(easier target for points) and BG does it better. I guess better commanders I suppose.

Dao.8156:

BG still holding strong for as late as it is.

Not sure what SoR is doing. Playing for second place perhaps? Dunno, the strategy does not make much sense to me. It seems SoR has a chance at first if they push BG down during their off hours.

SoR always plays for second xD!

This should have happened on release, this wont work now.

People are no longer playing the game because it hasn’t evolved, all the time spent on events that are only up for a certain time, not to mention there is only 2 balance people and balance is the most important aspect of an MMO. No subscription you don’t feel like you’re compelled to play, the story line is bland, no other factions. If anything thieves are just proof that balancing is an issue and rendering issues aren’t going anywhere. There are a lot of reasons, but this just screams another nerf thieves thread in disguise.

cannedflame.3597:

Interesting things have been going on lately…

http://bornoficeandfire.weebly.com/

The above site has the screens that show just the kind of behavior that seems to be prevalent in this matchup, at least with one of our opponents…

Was a commander in control of the siege golem too, pretty dirty.

Well that’s not fair, It’s obviously TC ._.;

The game is very sandbox at the moment.

WvW gets old, fun, but old. Nothing really has been added and wont get an update till February.
Dungeons are absent due to FotM rave and even then, there is always one person who disconnects and you wasted all that time, not to mention you want to group with friends, you’re like, 22, they’re like, 17, seriously? :/
Levelling is fine, although the zones get old doing them multiple times and the story line is bland, to add onto that there isn’t a secondary faction or anything so it’s just the same old thing.

I can see why people are getting burnt out to some extent, but the beauty of GW2 is that it’s a B2P MMO with no subscription fee. -shrug-

Sheol Owl.1096:

They care, and they care a lot. It has been made clear that WvW is “their baby” and as such are making some very exciting changes to be available in Feb. Here is but one of many interviews where they have given information regarding their plans. I just wish more people would focus on the positive, rather than just spreading negative all the time. :/

http://gamingbolt.com/guild-wars-2-interview-we-talk-to-areanet-about-how-the-mmorpg-has-been-doing-post-launch

Their baby isn’t WvW, It’s sPvP.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/13zzfx/gw2_on_esleu_why_not/

I’m sorry but WvW is a feature, just like culling is a feature and to be brutally blunt, what exactly has been added since release? If anything they’ve taken away more then they’ve added.

Removal of orbs
Added more PvE content(Y-ok.)

I love GW2, I recommend it to all my friends, but at the end of the day it comes down to dollars and cents. WvW will never gain as much pure profit then sPvP and as a company they need to capitalize on that. I’m sure they care, like any other gaming company about their product, but I’m confused why you come to that conclusion.

Wasabee.5031:

Cloud.7613:

Wasabee.5031:

Haldunius.7864:

I think a lot of people are missing the point. I don’t care if the thief designer babysits NCSofts children every Friday night. I don’t care if Svarty got pwnd by a D/D Ele and tried to derail the thread that way.

Thief is broken. Stealth has no counter. And the whole problem is exacerbated by culling. People are tired of playing this game because it’s turning in Thiefwars2. I believe that was the OP’s point and I have yet to see a mildly intelligent or even slightly coherent rebuttal in this thread.

Give thief permanent stealth, then give detection to specific class just like any other MMO games. Thief has no permanent stealth by designed, therefore, no need to have detection. Why would you need detection for 3-4 second of stealth with cd if revealed (if you allow thief to stay in your melee range C&D skill) or 12s of stealth with long CD (Shadow Refugee)?

And even with permanent stealth and detection like other MMO’s, people are still QQ about stealth class. Is there any MMO with stealth class that doesn’t give a huge QQ on the forum?

Rogue, World of Warcraft.

Couldn’t go invis for days, its stealth could be broken from damage over time spells and can also be detected from other spells. But still had vanish to balance it as a stealth class.

Even if stealth was removed, thiefs would still be dominant and that is the scary thing.

What? I had rogue with legendary daggers in WoW and you told me that rogue couldn’t go invis for days? I quit WoW before Panda was out, did they change the stealth in WoW so that rogue can no longer have permanent stealth? You can’t break stealth if you can’t see where the rogue is. Good rogue will camp near you enough and not let you detect him. With Vanish/Cloak of Shadow, you will remove all dot and go back into permanent stealth. If you go with Combat/Assassin route then yeah bad luck for you, you can’t remove dot and have to wait till dot out to re-stealth w/o being revealed, but that’s your choice. That was why most heavy pvp rogue was subtle trait.

The most QQ forum in WoW was also in Rogue and Mage.

We’re talking about a Rogue in COMBAT. Staying permanently stealth is like afking in town, you’re not doing anything yet. High up time invis IN combat vs Permenent invis not doing anything yet. I’m sorry but it’s two entirely different things, one is choosing the time to attack, the other is abusing bad mechanics.

zastari.1730:

Cloud.7613:

Even if stealth was removed, thiefs would still be dominant and that is the scary thing.

It would be scary because of how bad the average player would have to be to die to an unstealthed thief.

Because that matters how? A high percentage of players play WvW for the non-serious aspect. It’s just the truth.

If you’re that tight for money, heart of the mists > lions arch.

Walks into thread, sees something that is actually valid, user was infr… moves along.

Lets be honest, the balance team, as small as it is, is making pretty good strides balance wise.

Wasabee.5031:

Haldunius.7864:

I think a lot of people are missing the point. I don’t care if the thief designer babysits NCSofts children every Friday night. I don’t care if Svarty got pwnd by a D/D Ele and tried to derail the thread that way.

Thief is broken. Stealth has no counter. And the whole problem is exacerbated by culling. People are tired of playing this game because it’s turning in Thiefwars2. I believe that was the OP’s point and I have yet to see a mildly intelligent or even slightly coherent rebuttal in this thread.

Give thief permanent stealth, then give detection to specific class just like any other MMO games. Thief has no permanent stealth by designed, therefore, no need to have detection. Why would you need detection for 3-4 second of stealth with cd if revealed (if you allow thief to stay in your melee range C&D skill) or 12s of stealth with long CD (Shadow Refugee)?

And even with permanent stealth and detection like other MMO’s, people are still QQ about stealth class. Is there any MMO with stealth class that doesn’t give a huge QQ on the forum?

Rogue, World of Warcraft.

Couldn’t go invis for days, its stealth could be broken from damage over time spells and can also be detected from other spells. But still had vanish to balance it as a stealth class.

Even if stealth was removed, thiefs would still be dominant and that is the scary thing.

All comes down to GW2. It’s about sPvP(For e-sports) and seasonal events. WvW is a feature, it doesn’t have to be good to be kept as a feature.

If Bugs/Balancing had even half the amount of people working on those issues as the amount of people working on seasonal events, this game would be pretty much perfect.

So, why wvw doesn’t stop by night?

…. Because this directly effects Oceanic players who weren’t given their own server to begin with.

Arrow Carts, really? xD … no. They’re perfectly fine.

Working as intended.

That video pretty much sums it up, golem rushing is over powered and all you need is mesmer portals.

I don’t even …

You wasted two minutes of footage killing people who had no real interest in fighting, I honestly don’t know what that proved.

And as stated above, if you’re having problems with landing Muddy Terrain maybe you should use QZ instead.

The first two minutes kind of made the video pretty awful, rest was, ok I guess. Killing bad melee players isn’t hard though.

Another “Learn to play” thread. Sorry, Ranger is still one of the worse classes in the game, is it good? yeah, It is good. But compared to the other classes? No.

Why? Because Rangers where either nerfed or nothing happened to them.
Other classes got buffs or slight nerfs.

So the gap went larger and larger, now it’s to large to say Ranger is in a good place. I’m sorry, but all this does is prove you’ve not played a ranger, lol@Original Poster.

jalmari.3906:

oh and pls remove invisible ressing /finishing its totally expoitable too much

This, and balance the classes downed skill and I have no problem with it.

Could always do what the mass number of rangers do in WvW, use a range pet?

._. ; …

Well to be honest the signet one was across the board, which is rather kind of insulting for rangers/thiefs. But all in all, at least it was something positive, along with the rest of the stuff.

. _. ; seems like it’s not just me.

And this is why I loved the white lion in warhammer online. The lion with its armor, so proud and fierce felt like a protector, my equal. In GW2 I go through pets like underwear. That’s no insult to GW2, but being a pet class, it just doesn’t have the same, feel…

Roo Stercogburn.9671:

Just fix nightcapping.

Scale the points so that more are earned at a region’s prime time than during the small hours. People who want to play during the night can have still have fun hitting the doors.

This game is supposed to be based on skill but really winning is decided by which server has the most people PvE’ing in WvW when nobody else is around. In terms of healthy competition its a farce.

Again, wont happen because Oceanic players shouldn’t be punished for playing during their prime time. Actually, TC(Which I am on) Almost lost the bay on their border lands which was fully upgraded. In which they had 3x more people at the time in that borderlands. I think NA players are blissfully unaware of how many NA players actually play during their night time, aka prime time. It’s not PvDoor. The game doesn’t revolve around you.

And WvW based on skill? lol maybe, but it also revolves around numbers, no?

PvE? really? :/

I don’t really understand why they have PvE mobs in WvW to start with, I don’t want to see it taken to a new level.

Arrclyde.6358:

@Cloud:
well we all know what Arenanet did say about nightcapping. We did read that…… BUT when i read that i had slight feelings of not noticing…. and would like to give u a small hint to sometimes do a bit “out of a box thinking”: unlike Northamerica with its millions of squaremiles of wide land an many people AND if you count Canada, Alaska AND Hawaii its 8 timezones (each 1 hour of timediffrence) we in Europe have mostly ONE Timezone. Just ONE. That means: when it is night Most players sleep. The One that doesnt cannot keep that pace forever. Here in Europe u have the Problem when Thatcher you go to sleep in eastern Europe people in Western Europe will mostly do too. Total diffrent to NA east- to westcoast population.

@ topic:
To prevent burnout i advise u the following => it is a game after all. just Don`t play if u feel unhealthy. Its you choice.

Well tbh, I don’t really care about the EU servers, lol :-/

But I’ve said my two cents on the entire situation.

Didn’t know they had this, I like the idea. +1

Throrgrim.7098:

You don’t need a programed donation system.
When i’m going to upgrade something i write into the map-channel, that i’m collecting for an upgrade and minutes later the letters with a few coins arrive…
Sometimes i have to write more than once and have to motivate people to give money, but usually it’s no big matter.

I’ve seen this happen and it was abused, they later switched server. Although I’m not saying you’d ever do this, think about it, will someone do it? … … … exactly.

If it’s implemented well, I like the idea.