Guild Wars 2

The only people defending the broken thief class ARE thieves themselves. Sorry but your class is broken, played right you have 50% stealth up time, always getting first hits and worse comes to worse peace I’m out. I agree yes they should excel at one vs one fights, but at this point in time, the class is broken.

Mimizu.7340:

“calm the hell down”?

what part of my post sounds like i am ranting?

this is just a simple idea to resolve the obvious problem.

and as for me, the login server failed to let me in for hours, so i missed everything.

i dont want any compensation, i just want people to be happy.

If you noticed more people are happy then sad. Me due to being Australian missed everything, but, at least I know what kind of game this is, I wont need to spend my money on it and I can spend it on another game. But I wouldn’t be surprised if more trial accounts got precursors then people with actual accounts, It’s a nice little way of saying, keep playing this game.

No one is complaining about free content, people are complaining about content that is biased towards a time zone. If it was a cool fight and a cut scene that was breath taking, with a few exotics(named, not precursors) then I could cut my loses and watch it via youtube and marvel in the experience without being there. The difference is people got precursors(which to an extent doesn’t matter because now they will deflate) but they got them nontheless and things that aren’t even in the game any more. I like fair content, not content that excludes people from other countries.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Cloud.7613:

Bashner.7439:

ANET doesn’t have to do these onetime events … they don’t even have to give us brand new content every month … they are trying to make the game interesting and and make the world feel live. Is it fair that not everyone in the world can make these events? No, but life isn’t fair. It’s just a game. Please stop complaining and just grow up. No I can not make EVERY event. I have a job, wife, and 2 year old daughter. If I miss an event so what. Asking ANET to stop all onetime events cause you can’t make it is completely selfish. Yes, SOME people got precursors from the event then again SOME people got precursors the first time the dropped a few exotics into the mystic forge, it happens.

It’s completely selfish to have ONE timed events in NA prime time and not in another time as well. Ultimately ANet will lose big on this – so does it matter, no, lets move on.

9 AM – 12 PM is NA Primetime?

Better then 3 AM, no?

Bashner.7439:

ANET doesn’t have to do these onetime events … they don’t even have to give us brand new content every month … they are trying to make the game interesting and and make the world feel live. Is it fair that not everyone in the world can make these events? No, but life isn’t fair. It’s just a game. Please stop complaining and just grow up. No I can not make EVERY event. I have a job, wife, and 2 year old daughter. If I miss an event so what. Asking ANET to stop all onetime events cause you can’t make it is completely selfish. Yes, SOME people got precursors from the event then again SOME people got precursors the first time the dropped a few exotics into the mystic forge, it happens.

It’s completely selfish to have ONE timed events in NA prime time and not in another time as well. Ultimately ANet will lose big on this – so does it matter, no, lets move on.

Someone got a precursor. I didn’t get to go because I have a life and I’m in Australia, thanks ANet <3

The Death Of Rats.7219:

Parthis.2091:

I’m fine with one-time events. In fact I’d like to see more of them. I know it sucks if you can’t make it, but that’s life… the real world works in the same way.

Maybe thats how the real world works for selfish people like yourself but when I arrange things with my friends I arrange it for a time where EVERYONE can make it, but then again I’m not selfish like some people.

This whole thing has been a disaster, I paid my money for the game like everyone else, yet I get penalised for a having a life and a family. Although according to some people I should just tell my family to go away so I can play a game! Dont think so, I play when life, work and family are done, then I get some chill time.

I played GW and bought all the packs for it but if this is the future then you will receive no more money from me.

Why not have a broader time scale so everyone who paid the money gets a chance. Plus the server loads wouldn’t be so disastrous. I know people near the end would struggle to get enough people in to help, but why not give people the oppurtunity to go again except they wont get the awesome rewards of someone doing it for the first time, but enough reward to make doing it worthwhile.

Personally, after this weekend I have lost all fait in arenanet and I wonder if they even care about the people who buy their game!!

Damage has been done so not worth dwelling on it now, although I’d prefer 8:00 AM to 3:00 AM though. To add onto that, I knew buying from Arena Net they’d favor Americans so I’m ultimately not surprised and sad by it either way.

Dardamaniac.1295:

I strongly believe that the underwater fixes were just to fill some space….I cant find any other reason.The other weird thing is that they expected to believe it…This is kinda offensive

I actually believe this, because lets be honest, It’s not a nerf and even more people would be here complaining if it was. But hey, at least it’s not a nerf.

Gryph.8237:

ANET is getting rich as hell of gw2 and cannot afford to hire some kitten de-buggers? I don’t buy his sob story. I think Rangers and Necromancers have gotten the short end of the stick since the beginning of this game, while the other classes have steadily increased in their utility and power. I am sick of waiting for anet to wake up and fix bugs. I have 0 motivation to do their stupid new content when my class is ridiculously kittened. I will not spend a single coin more on this company until they actually address issues. As for rangers, I deleted mine. I dont even want to think about going back to it.

This, every class apart from Ranger has been slowly improved, while the weakest from release was slowly getting worse. I had high hopes for this patch because for once, they actually where open with us and it becomes into a nerf instead. Good grief.

Because if there isn’t a merged thread, there will be 4-5 threads about the same kitten thing. If anything it saves space for people who actually want to be constructive for the most part. I’d prefer a “Why does everyone hate Trahearne?” thread then 4-5 Ascended gear qq threads that are all about the same thing. If I was interested in that, I’d go to the merged thread.

apocalyps.7106:

@quidgy.1483 i didn’t ask for new content in storyline,
i ask for somthing to do after i finish this, guild wars 1 has underworld, has fow, has kanaxai, elite areas, that are repeatable and hard, maybe these things are needed ?

You’re comparing Guild Wars 1, to Guild Wars 2. One game which has been released 3 months and one that has had, SEVERAL years to build onto. Try another game till more content comes in, aim for a legendary …

Mandrax.7342:

Seems to me that this is the wrong time to give this announcement. Of course whenever they gave it, people would be unhappy, but right now Blizzard has a free 10 day trial of Mists of Pandaria running to all former players. People might just get deflated enough about Arenanet’s latest news and might turn to something else. It’s possible that a number of those that try MoP might be tempted to stay. It feels like Arenanet are pushing people away, and with the amount of competition out there, if it’s not to MoP, it could well be to some other competitor.

Enjoy the monthly subscription, enjoy buying the expansion cost and enjoy the same thing people are complaining about right now, gear, progression. I’m confused why people would complain about one thing and go to the game that is renowned for it. :-/

Maybe the game is just not for you?

SiNoS.2147:

Auesis.7301:

This is already the case…have you not noticed the extra stats are the equivalent of a jewel/orb upgrade and the Infusion slot is the ONLY slot that’s open for modification?

Thing is weapon’s and armor can have sigil’s/rune’s,and gem’s slotted into the exiting versions where as jewelery can only have gem’s. Also add the fact legendary gear is being brought up to par with ascended, legendary already has sigil slot, theres a chance there adding an infusion slot as well. All they have shown us is one piece of jewelery. I personally have not seen anything on there plans for the weapons and armor so unless you can point out a post on it it is possible weapons and armor will have both slots on them.

No one said it was 100% correct, but everyone at this point is assuming, some more then others. You did bring a good point with the legendary though.

axiology.5807:

Cloud.7613:

axiology.5807:

Cloud.7613:

warmonkey.8013:

Cloud.7613:

Wouldn’t it be comical if Ascended item armor pieces don’t have rune slots so the stats are out classed by exotic with runes. Would make sense no?

Infusion slots in every piece.

They don’t have rune slots. Look at the ring. The slot that normally would contain a gem? Those stats are included in the item’s base stats. There is also a slot of an Infusion.

It wouldn’t be comical if that were the case, it would be good. It’s not gonna be like that, though. Get ready to salvage all your exotics, kids, the treadmill is starting up.

Kid? Getting personal, really mate? really? lol. Sorry, but I’m rich enough in game and wouldn’t mind the challenge, enjoy going elsewhere because you don’t like change in an MMO. <3

Uhh… I don’t think the “kids” was directed to you. It’s for players who now have to change their entire take on the game, their entire set of gear because of a turnaround in game principles.

Well I’m part of those kids, so uhh, yeah I find that personal. But as I said, I’m more then happy to spend the lots of gold I have. Bring it ^^;

Well, sudden boast of wealth, that killed the discussion. I’m happy for your riches.

Lovely, because it wasn’t going anywhere anyway, thanks for the mediating though, no english good much. <3

Lost shores, get ready <3

Substance E.4852:

The thing is that right now the only infusion they have hinted at is the one that protects against the agony effect. There is nothing stopping them from adding in other types that give a more general benefit to your character effectively replicating the idea of runes/gems.

We can only hope that isn’t the case because THEN people would be able to complain, I’ll complain as well. Till then, no, I’ll wait to see what happens.

Auesis.7301:

This is already the case…have you not noticed the extra stats are the equivalent of a jewel/orb upgrade and the Infusion slot is the ONLY slot that’s open for modification?

This, it’s not a coincidence, lol. But people will still find a reason to make this seem game breaking. -shrug- I’m looking forward to this.

axiology.5807:

Shuguard.7125:

Cloud.7613:

Wouldn’t it be comical if Ascended item armor pieces don’t have rune slots so the stats are out classed by exotic with runes. Would make sense no?

Infusion slots in every piece.

I came to the same conclusion. Now i’m just watching how far the doom and gloom train can go. Best part is it was one ring to rule them all.

Then why would they even have Ascended items in the first place? To bridge the gap between rares and exotics I suppose.

Good question which I don’t have the answer to, but It’s just a thought.

Shuguard.7125:

Cloud.7613:

Wouldn’t it be comical if Ascended item armor pieces don’t have rune slots so the stats are out classed by exotic with runes. Would make sense no?

Infusion slots in every piece.

I came to the same conclusion. Now i’m just watching how far the doom and gloom train can go. Best part is it was one ring to rule them all.

It just proves people will blow anything out of proportion without knowing all the facts. Oh well, one can only hope. ^^;

Wouldn’t it be comical if Ascended item armor pieces don’t have rune slots so the stats are out classed by exotic with runes. Would make sense no?

Infusion slots in every piece.

At least you got 2 months of enjoyment for the money.

Patch not even out yet and already people throwing their toys out of their pram. I don’t know if I like this, but I will definitely let it play out and plan what happens after that. Till then, I’m not going to have a sulk like most though. Good luck Arena Net, make it work.

Yeah, lets do the same dungeons forever. Meanwhile you lose just as many players due to pure boredom to other games. You may not like this, but they have your money, so -shrug-

BabelFish.7234:

I actually don’t mind the gear progression. All I want is for the treadmill to be easy and follow their general theme of X type of set has X amount of stats so everyone with that gear is on the same footing (and for said gear not to be a absurd WoW gear grind for months for that X piece…the WvWvW armor is bad enough as is)

WvW armor is pretty bad to get, I have to admit. But most people pass on getting the set anyway. We’ll have to wait and see really. ^^

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

No, it doesn’t mean multiple things. Read the rest of the post: “As we introduce the new high-level content, we’ll also roll out new Ascended items”

I know, it’s hard to read because the page is screwed up on a few people’s browsers, there’s posts like that in the support forums, but please at least try.

we’ll also roll out new Ascended items <- Ascended items. ASCENDED ITEMS.

You’re saying there will be another set afterwards, get personal more pls. <3

Slive.9053:

“The new additions in November are just the start of our item progression initiative.”

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/?utm_source=client

Till I see a set after Ascending gear this is only speculation on the Ascending set itself, sorry.

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

Ascending gear is not a one time thing, Cloud. Please read the actual blog post from Linsey before you speak any more on the subject.

This does affect the casual player.

Ok where does it exactly say there will be a set after Ascending gear? I’ll like a screenshot of the next gear, thanks <3

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

Cloud, you’re missing the entire point. Stat boosts don’t matter in a game you can play naked. The obvious slap in the face to the basic design philosophy is the problem. I know, you don’t really know A-net. I get that. But please read, look, and listen, then speak. Or just go back to WoW, where they would like you.

So you’re saying Arena Net doesn’t like its player base? And you act like you know Arena Net? Because I’m part of the player base, sup?

Besides, when this patch hits, like it will, I’ll still be there, will you? No. Because after the first sign of danger, you’ll have moved on.

Instead of getting personal, bring hard evidence that this will lose them players and maybe they’ll listen to you.

I believe Ascending gear is a one time thing, It follows up from their system. Besides, this is an MMO, grinding is expected. But you’re not forced to do it, the upgrades are almost insignificant. I believe the Infusions are referring to high end game PvE content. This does not effect WvW, sPvP and the casual player.

Dhar.6392:

Pants.8315:

I don’t want an inspect option for the exact reason you list. It involves everything I hated about gear treadmill type games.

Whilst you maybe one of the legitimate players who isn’t a complete tool, for every one of you there will be ten more:
“He still has a rare necklace! Kick him! "

Next they’ll be asking for visible gear-score, and link-able achievements, and we’ll be knee deep in elitist jerks.

That has already started… had a post in Wv3 already… asking for geared folks only to be part of a havok squad.

One way or another- you will be judged by your peers. Seen it already with Commander tags… deep pockets is no substitute for stupidity… those folks have been marked. Won’t be long before you will be as well. You’ll be a question mark… for a long, long time until someone gives you a chance… and if you screw up… you’ll be a has been for life.

Welcome to Gear Wars 2 !

I laughed, good job sir.

Moving on, you cannot blame an entire player base for a few selected players, this is what you are doing and not everyone will be like this.

You’re not forced to do the dungeon and I’m sorry but that poll is laughable, the people who leave are the people who have never played an MMO or probably don’t even play this game any more. Besides, I’m amazed more people didn’t vote no on that poll because those are the only people who are complaining about it I bet. Else they’d be enjoying the game, which, 99% of the population is. I know I am!

Besides, the stat boost is almost insignificant for the work it sounds like you need to put into it AND the Infusion slots are for the dungeon itself – they’re NOT gem slots.

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

I have a lot of faith in A-net. They’ve only screwed up three times so far, about to make four, in about eight years.

But, they are going to screw this up. It’s got all the classic signs of everything A-net does before A-net screws up. Will it ruin the game, probably not. Will a lot of people quit, maybe. Will most of those people come back for holidays, very likely. That doesn’t change the point that they’re going to screw this up.

Will people quit? Lol yes.
Will more people come back? Yes. A lot more.

But I strongly believe more people will be playing after the patch then before and is that a bad thing?

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

“This is just the beginning. In November, we’re only adding the first level of Infusions and Ascended Rings and Back slots, so that leaves us a lot of room to build upon these levels of Item progression in future content.
As we release more new end game content in the future, you’ll see more Infusions and Ascended item types being added to the game. Eventually, you’ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content.”

So, you’ll be required to have infusion, from Ascended gear in order to progress through the content. In the future, more Ascended gear will be added, and high end infusions will be added. Following in trend, more Infusion will be required to progress through the newer content.

Right now, you craft the Back slot in the Forge, and then grind the dungeon for the Ring. To make new content more challenging, and keep you wanting to keep going, you’ll likely be required to have the Back and Ring pieces in order to take part in the next dungeon, that will give you the Gloves and Boots. And then, even more, when you get in to the place that gives you Head and Shoulders. And even more when you finally get your Chest and Leggings.

Grind more infusion to take part in new dungeons to grind more infusion to take part in new dungeons.

I highly doubt you NEED back piece to do it initially, so if you did the first path without it, you still need the ring for completing it(Even this is shady because we don’t have the entire picture) I don’t know about you, but I have a friend and 3 others already committing to doing it back piece or not. When the patch hits and you have the full information on how it’ll work and if they are actually NEEDED, please do tell me because at the moment, we’re just guessing.

I don’t agree with reducing the cost to teleport due to the PvP > LA > Free portal to city trick, but I do find it weird that you need to pay the waypoint cost upon death. Kind of insult to injury for people who don’t earn much gold.

RaGe.9834:

Cloud.7613:

Awesome.6120:

Cloud.7613:

Getting to 1-80 is a joke. (Friend did it in 4 days and they have a life)
Getting max gear, is a bigger joke. (Friend did it as soon as they hit 80)

I don’t disagree with you but your friend seems to be faster than average.

I know people who have done it faster. The main point is even if you’re slow, it’s not a grind.

YOU sir clearly weren’t a gw1 player

YOU clearly aren’t as good at gw2 as me, so? Does it matter, we’re here to play GW2. Now stop getting personal and talk about GW2. You didn’t tell me why it’s not a grind yet, I’ll be waitin’

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

JBleezz.2697:

I would say that it all depends on implementation. One of the major problems with the Ascended gear as we understand it is that it is earned in a very limited way namely grinding the new dungeon.

If they decided to add it purely to fill the gap between legendarys and exotics and didn’t add new tiers after it I don’t think it would really be a problem. The concern is that it sets a precedent for after the Ascended gear they will add another tier then another and so on.

What Anet should do is add a variety of methods to get Ascended gear outside of dungeons making them harder to attain then exotics but easier then legendarys then don’t add any more tiers.

The problem, Jbleezz, is that if it’s harder to attain than exotics, then you are forced to grind harder to get gear that is required to participate in new content. It’s not that there’s new gear. If they had made new gear with slightly better stats, it wouldn’t matter to anyone at all.

It’s the NEW stat, the one that we’ve been told straight from A-net will be required in order to play the new dungeons beyond a specific point. Instead of “Item Level” your ability to perform in new dungeons will be measured entirely by how much of the new stat you have.

You’re acting as if it’s hard to get exotic gear, it’s actually painfully easy.

Awesome.6120:

Cloud.7613:

Getting to 1-80 is a joke. (Friend did it in 4 days and they have a life)
Getting max gear, is a bigger joke. (Friend did it as soon as they hit 80)

I don’t disagree with you but your friend seems to be faster than average.

I know people who have done it faster. The main point is even if you’re slow, it’s not a grind.

kagejuin.4713:

It’s the biggest grind I have played in a while.

I almost cried laughing, thank you.

Getting to 1-80 is a joke. (Friend did it in 4 days and they have a life)
Getting max gear, is a bigger joke. (Friend did it as soon as they hit 80)

Comparing GW2 to WoW is the biggest joke of them all. The only thing grindy in this game is getting a legendary and you’re not forced to do this.

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

Heart of the Mists > LA > City.

Now, waypointing is not costly at all, so just drop the whole notion. And, well, it’s not three minutes of loading screens, it’s about 7 seconds worth of them to go from anywhere to anywhere.

This … I hear my friends complain about waypoint prices(Which I’m stunned by) and after I forced them to do it once, they learnt with one little trick it’s perfectly fine.

Never thought I’d see people complain so much about 5+5 stats extra. Besides if people hadn’t noticed it’s an infusion slot, this is 100% PvE focused.

This is needed, not being braggadocious, but I have a legendary and you get so, so much hate thrown at you.

I don’t want this, WoW proved it’s a horrible system.

kagejuin.4713:

Cloud.7613:

People have quit to other games(Not naming them but you know a big MMO that recently had an expansion) because of lack of content.

One minute players quit due to no content, qq, no content.
Arena Net brings new content, qq to much content, qqq.

GW2 needs more content.

GW2 is not FUN it is inherently not fun and emergently it’s not fun either!

GW2 has alot of content but most of its content it does WRONG people then cry for more content. Well. That is one way to go about it, but it’s the WRONG way. Make all your current content engaging, fun, awesome and we won’t need another batch of content for a while. But if the NEw content will be as lackluster as the content we have currently. Guess what. People will keep leaving. Why? New content still sucks.

New content has barely come out for GW2 and people are already begging for things to do and when its finally come they cry it’s too much. I enjoy World vs World, I enjoy grinding while talking with others who like the game via voice communication. I don’t like sPvP but every now and then, sure! If you actually think the new content sucks, GW2 isn’t for you. Some games aren’t for everyone, but GW2 is for me.

Most PvE players I know have it, it’d be unfair for current players not to have done it. I disagree with this.

I fear people who already transmuted their legendary to exotic level already are raging bad – I’ve already got my legendary and I think the stats are fine, although I’d really like it if you could left click it and scroll to different stats. Yes, this is a little over powered compared to exotic fixed gear, but the amount of time spent getting one(compared to exotic gear) Isn’t even close, so I think it’d be a good idea.

People have quit to other games(Not naming them but you know a big MMO that recently had an expansion) because of lack of content.

One minute players quit due to no content, qq, no content.
Arena Net brings new content, qq to much content, qqq.

GW2 needs more content.

$50-100? absolutely not. Besides, dyes are a source of income gem wise. Wouldn’t benefit both parties.

I was on TC when ET literally showed up for 20 minutes and didn’t come back till almost the reset, it was embarrassing and I’ve never seen a server just, through in the towel before 1 hour in. It was actually hurting me to cap ET’s stuff because they weren’t going to even try to defend it.

I don’t even … I have a legendary and I worked hard for it, does this mean I don’t help the guild aspect? No.

One minute players complain for something to do, now players complain that there is too much, I don’t even …

The patch isn’t even out, lets at least try it before we all say it’s destroying GW2. Arena Net has done decently to get to this point, lets give them some breathing room.