Guild Wars 2

Thanks for running this, Ropechef. Even if I didn’t manage to participate, it got me to update my engi and test out some of the new traits/changes.

RemiRome is pointing out a very small, but significant difference. One that’s easily confused.

It isn’t the act of leaving a party that wipes chat. It is the act of changing zones that does (if you aren’t in that party anymore). But since when you leave party while in a dungeon it also auto kicks you from the instance, they happen at the same time.

As a quick experiment, party up with a friend, say something in party chat, them break party without changing zones. Your party chat remains. Change zones and it will disappear.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/
Once you’ve input your build, look at the place where it says Effective Power.

Or

http://jsfiddle.net/GNEFd/10/embedded/result/
And compare Averages.

Edit: At lvl 80, your base precision would be 916 and that gives you a crit chance of 4%. Every 21 points in precision gives you 1% increase in crit chance.

Banner of Precision gives 170 precision I believe. And spotter should be 150 precision.

I don’t believe you have any sort of evidence that would indicate that gold from dungeons is killing the economy.

1. You are right that gold is created by completing dungeons (generated from the game engine and injected into the player economy). However, money creation is only one part of the equation in determining if inflation is happening. You also need to consider if the amount of product that is also created and put into the economy as well.

Inflation can be considered “too much money chasing too few goods”. Now… can you say that the player population is unable to produce enough material goods to absorb the amount of money “printed”?

How much product is created? Well that’s hard to say without being John Smith and having access to the database. Even researching on GW2Spidy won’t tell you the rate at which products are created.

But let’s take an educated guess. I recently put in a buy order at 1.93 silver for 1,000 silk scrap. It took approximately 4 minutes from the time I received my first piece to when I received my last piece. So while it’s not a direct translation from item creation to TP, let’s say that the player population creates approximately 15k scraps of silk per hour. Let’s say that the average value of a scrap of silk is 2 silver, just to make it a nice round number. That means that we generate 300gold worth of silk scraps per hour in materials. That’s 7200 gold worth of silk scraps per day. That’s for one item amongst hundreds that are generated by the system.

2. How much gold is actually created from Dungeons? You have no idea how much. We don’t have numbers of actual players actively playing the game, or actively doing dungeon runs per day. Is the dungeon running population 1,000 people? 5,000 people? What’s the average amount of gold generated per player from dungeons? And can you consider it a significant amount compared to the total amount of gold generated from other sources? Without any form of evidence – you don’t even have circumstantial evidence – your suggestion that gold from dungeons is killing the economy is merely an opinion.

3. A low amount of inflation is actually healthy for an economy. It encourages people to not hoard their money, but to purchase goods. At the same time, low amounts of inflation avoids turning currency into something valueless as a high amount of inflation would. The US economy generally sees a trend of about 2-3% increase in CPI (a general indicator of how much inflation is happening) and is generally considered by economists as a good thing.

Interestingly, deflation actually can be a problem as well as it encourages people to hoard their money and can cause a stagnant economy.

4. Only looking at inflation is not a pure indicator of economic health. The most relied on indicator of economic health is GDP, and often Real GDP (which takes into account inflation when you compare across years). GDP basically takes a look at how much product is being produced/sold (depending on the version you wanna use). So the more product that people create – whether through farming or world boss trains, or whatever – the more robust our GDP.

He’s wrong. For an extremely long wall o text list of reasons I might type out after church. But I’m lazy and I try to avoid that nowadays.

Short version.

1. Only considers the creation of gold, but doesn’t consider the creation of goods. (Inflation has as much to do with how much gold there is I. The system as there is goods available.)
2. He doesn’t have any solid numbers… Or even any soft numbers about how much gold is actually created from people doing dungeons.
3. A small amount of inflation is actually healthy for an economy.
4. Only looking at inflation is not a pure indicator of health of economy.

Red. I think her face is better framed by a darker color.

Check and mate.

Eight O Eight.8257:

I just assumed-

You shouldn’t.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

So… any news on fractal leaderboards?

Sometimes they say no news is good news.

And the good news is that they’ve promised to try real hard to avoid resetting our fractal levels again.

Whoa whoa whoa. Next thing you’ll be telling me is that zombie-man came from zombie-gorillas.

They should follow Zhaitan’s will. Maybe he wrote some kind of zombie-bible for them.

Pretty sure Zhaitan created a man-zombie and a woman-zombie for a reason, and it wasn’t to make lesbian-zombies.

LittleZoe.4970:

To stack or not to stack?

If you dislike stacking, you should form your own group and specify in the LFG comment that you will not be stacking. Make your own way. Otherwise you’ll always be subject to someone else’s rules.

Silberfisch.3046:

Now I’m intrigued. Could you please direct me to said forum drama? I somehow seem unable to find it. Or did it get mod-smacked?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Bess-class-for-FotM-and-Dungeons/first

Locked. And probably for the best. His therapy was going nowhere.

I’d actually like to hear what my fellow dungeon forum goers think about Defiance and what they might choose to do with it if they had the ability to change it. This is mostly a thought exercise for entertainment and not a commentary like “defiance sucks” or whatnot. If you had a chance to design the defiance mechanic, how might you do it?

First, I suppose it’d help to define the reasons why Defiance exists. There are creatures that ANet has decided should be resistant to crowd control effects. CC should work some of the time, but not all of the time on these creatures. It should not reward stunlocking or reckless use of CC, but should reward intelligent and well-timed use of CC.

What do you guys think you can come up with?

Sanderinoa.8065:

Retaliate vs noob, I’d like so see that

First seed. Welp… time to choose a side.

They all are threads that follow Destiny’s Edge. They follow in order of their levels.

Lunar Sunset.8742:

I think most MMO gamers understand GW2 is pretty much a clusterkitten of spamming skills with as little coordination as possible and still be able to get the “job” in decent timing. This game is a boring DPS race no matter what, with a meta it’s just a boring fast DPS race. I don’t think many people care about this stupid tournament that proves nothing other than I have gud muscle memory.

When the UFC was just starting to become popular, a lot of laymen tuned in and were confused by it.
“Why are they just moving around, shouldn’t they be slugging it out?”
“Why are those two near naked men hugging and rolling around on the ground? That’s not fighting!”

But as time progressed, people learned to pick out the nuances and true skill these athletes had when combatting each other. I believe the same can be said here. Where some people see chaos, others can pick out a guardian who has a perfect aegis rotation, or the complementary build of two eles, or whatever.

While you may think people won’t care, I believe the opposite. I think that this tournament has a lot of potential, and all that remains to be seen is how that potential is executed.

I also think it cool that Tree(Nike) will be Joe Rogan.

Cheer for both. The only time you have to choose is if they end up going Head to Head.

Interesting. So with 91 characters, you’d have 11 teams with 6 (5+1alternate) and 5 teams with no alternate.

At 31 Eles, you’d have an average of 2 eles per team except for one team which has only 1. They make up 34% of the population.

21 Warriors means that there’s 5 teams that potentially have 2 warriors while the other 11 have 1 warrior.

17 Guardians means there’s at least one team with 2 guardians.

I wonder how the alternates list looks. o_O;

Warrior does have a lot of tools for trash skips, which is actually where I think most people get tripped up. It’s… surprising to me how many people have never tried rushing/leaping past mobs with autotarget turned off.

I recommend P3, but regardless of what path you choose, it really comes down to how well informed you are about the run ahead of time. Watch some youtube vids. Let us know what path you choose so that some of the finer tips can be posted here by our local dungeon experts.

Holy run on sentence, Batman.

Yes to harvesting nodes. Don’t sell blues and greens to vendors.

Don’t buy weapons/armor while you’re below lvl 80. Sift through all of the items you get as drops and see if there are items you can wear. Use those. Alternatively, when you complete a heart quest and it’s close to your level, you can check it and buy some karma armor if it’s cheap. Just be aware that after you buy it, you’re probably going to have to mystic forge any of your obsolete karma armor.

For any drops that you get that are blue and green, if you can’t wear them or they’re not an upgrade from your current armor, you should first look on the Black Lion Trading Post and see if you can sell them there. Vendor prices are usually much lower than Trading Post prices.

If you feel like the price on the Trading Post is not worth it to sell, then you should Salvage the item.

Decided to eliminate my wvw set for my warrior since I haven’t taken her in there in forever. Making a Str Rune set and I’ve been contemplating a few looks. I don’t have my heart set on anything much beyond having a white colored base. I’ve tried a few looks with the Phalanx legs, but that could be changed.

Suggestions?

Just curious if anyone else noticed how we’ve been installed as the leader of… I guess Destiny’s Edge 2.0.

I believe this may be an indicator that ANet wants to avoid another “Trahearne” style story since he’s been lambasted by the community so much. Thoughts?

winterchillz.2564:

Oh, sowwy, Ras! And you better have some good excuse for being offline tonight! We had to pug our level 21 and level 19 fractals and I was hoping you’d get online.

Were you one of the people who didn’t help her with Aetherpath?

Given that you said CET… I’d hazard a guess that your on an EU server?

On occasion I’ve had a PuG remark with surprise, “Oh, you’re all from the same guild!”
To which I reassure them, “Don’t worry, we’re not like those other men.”

I like the first one out of the four you’ve displayed as well.

What does she look like if you hide the shoulders?

Or find a train in EotM?

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

Btw Lilith, I heard you’re the gw2 fashion expert, is that true?

She once redressed Agent Spire with the push of a button. Or maybe it was a flip of a lever.

She was voted “Most Fashionable Asura,” even while running the Ascalon Fractal.

Detha’s never called her Fashion stupid.

Her fashion’s made Koptev shout, “Yesyesyes!”

Lilith is The Most Fashionable Expert in the dungeon forums.

I don’t think you were wrong, so long as you were polite.

In my thought, it’s better to be up front about how you feel about this. Hopefully you can also put some positive words in as well. Possibly something to the order of, “I personally don’t sell runs for profit, but I don’t see any problem with you doing so once you get good enough to solo. Here, let me give you some more tips about lupi…”

Run with friends. You have friends in game, right? Even one or two friends will make a dungeon run loads better.

Did you move to a new tier? I don’t recall if he has less effects at lower tier.

I award you today’s prestigious +1 Internets trophy.

; ;

Since forever. >_>;

The reflect happens when he starts spinning, I do believe. I don’t recall off the top of my head where stun happens… Was it if you get too close to the orbs that shoot white light downwards?

Best way to dissolve the zerker meta. Turn GW2 into SAB.

No no, seriously. In SAB everyone’s damage is the same. Armor, traits, none of it matters… Just you and a pointy stick to save Princess Miya.

Edit: I wonder what an 8-bit lupi would be like :o

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TPDQS61189w

So. Bosses are animals? A cornered animal is certainly dangerous, but is it more dangerous than walking into a lion’s den, kicking the Alpha awake and trying to box it in the center of its pride? ‘Cause when I see people YOLO into a boss, that’s basically what they’re doing.

Lucas.9157:

Red post?
PARA, PARA, PARADISE
(+1 if you read singing)

All I think of when I hear this song now is just How It Should Have Ended.

Paintin’ CAMO, CAMO, CAMOFLAGE~

One of the reasons I disagree with having a “ref” that occupies a player slot is because no matter how you slice it, there’s the danger of that “ref” affecting the run, even if they never enter combat.

Consider this. You’re doing a trash skip, but the “ref” draws aggro on half the pack of mobs. They end up drawing mobs out of position, making the skip easier for that group compared to the competing team where the “ref” was 20-30 steps behind and walks through the team’s backaggro.

The problem is that small variances can become debatable and some people will feel that they got robbed because the ref got in the way.

Just my thought.

My thought is that it should be kept to 5 person teams. Since streams like twitch can be embedded, you ideally should be able to make a web page with 2 streams side by side. (I’m not sure how smoothly that implementation would go, but it ought to be feasible.)

Lilith, how about a numbered list of what you think should be discussed/done to get the first round off the ground. We can have people discuss each item, and when you feel like an item is “locked in” you can edit the OP to show what the plan is for the tournament.

Iono, just a thought.

It makes everything look bobblheaded.

Just a sip. → 1 minute.

Chug it! → 1 hour.

So instead of teaching a person to play zerker properly, you’d rather laugh when they die?

Heck, even just a friendly suggestion to someone to check out the dungeon forums and up their game.

What kind of build do you run, Lian?

All very well done! Hrm. I think just appearance-wise I like your ranger the best, then your warrior in a veeeery close second.

Yes, three gears. But then the NPCs – to quote Detha – have to Build it themselves. And you have to guard them while a group of respawning elite undead try to kill them. >_<

maxinion.8396:

When I played a different game on an RP-centric world, it was entirely expected that you think of your character as something “outside yourself” with their own desires/emotions/etc. You obviously shape those things, and their personalities, but asking “what would my character do in this situation” was the order of the day, not “what should I do in this situation.” That’s half the fun— you get to react to things in a way you personally never would, and experience the world quite differently than “yourself.”

Absolutely one of the greatest joys of tabletop D&D, as well.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Interesting survey: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Research-about-MMO-players-and-avatars/first#post4110858

I felt a little uncomfortable with some of the questions. Seemed very weird. But it’s for science I guess.

I just took it. I can understand why, some of the questions were framed that way, though. You have to consider that her audience is going to be quite broad. Some people might view their characters as totally separate people, and some people might view their characters as themselves, and then there are people in the spectrum inbetween.

Some questions will speak to some people, and other questions will speak to others… and the rest of the questions will just be awkward. :P

DPS isn’t just a number. It should be a graph.