Guild Wars 2

Thanks bro for turning a GW2 Dungeon thread into a religious ‘thing’. Please take your business elsewhere. Like in the Mosque.

I don’t think they do, I think you’ll need to do the Clockwork Chaos category.

EDIT: Or Queens Jubilee.

Bismuth.3165:

Warcry.1596:

I’m sure you would if you’re arguing that there is no God.

100g says I can prove that there is a 99% chance that god exists (can’t make it a 100 unless I actually show you god which I can’t) and since I have to look at 600 pages for the verses that I know are there but to prove to you are there I have to know where they are so I don’t want to do it for free, you can rot in hell for all I care…
lets make a bet, anyone who wants to join just quote this sentence and say which side you’re on and how much you’re betting.

Oh for the love of God stay on topic! (See what I did there? I used the Lords name in vain).

Anyway. Colin also said that the changes made to dungeons would only be done if it made sense lore wise. How in the hell will they achieve that with the current LS<.<.

swiftpaw.6397:

Bismuth.3165:

How do you support something that doesn’t exist?

Better yet, how do you support something that won’t exist.

Always great feedback and full of good suggestions Swift. Great.

To show that there is a demand for it and hopefully change their mind. Negativity won’t do anything.

Show your support here. Keep it on topic and civil.

If there’s one thing that I find lacking currently is that the rest of the dungeons have not been revamped or new content added. I mean dungeons, not Fractals. I know they are on the way.

That still leaves us without a dungeon team. It seems that all of the attention has been shifted onto the Living Story, we’ll have to see how that turns out.

In the meantime, show your support here for a (new) dungeon team.

We want it, hell, we need it!

Yes because Ascended gear matter SO MUCH.. sigh

Love that there’s no response either. GG.

Apply the AChievement skins system to ALL skins> win. The current system is not cool, not cool at all.

Gold>gems rate is getting quite ridiculous.

Signed. I want it to be sold in the gemstore as well. I want Mr. Sparkles

I’d like the miniatures to return! I missed out on those! Other than that I was very content with what they brought out last year!

http://oilersnation.com/uploads/Image/Just%20win.jpg

Ashen.2907:

Sleuth.7964:

WoW was made in 2003 Guild Wars 2012 im sorry but tech is higher and they should have all those futures wildstar has LFG in BETA it has duelign IN BETA it has trading in BETA all those futures

Face it Anet just messed up.

1) I agree that Anet messed up, but not as regards to this specific point.

2) WoW was made in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006…2012, 2013. It is still being made today…that is what the, “continuously in development,” part of my post meant…and yet WoW does not have features that GW2 does.

3) Good to hear about those features in Wildstar’s BETA. GW2 has all of the ones you mention except an official LFG tool. Once Wildstar launches lets see if it has every feature possible, let alone every feature included in GW2 (I am willing to bet that it will not).

Yea but you’re wrong Ashen. See the point you’re missing here is that it’s about content he likes. He doesn’t care about anything else, you silly git!

Wolfheart.1938:

I love challenge and I hate your corrupted kind (woah that came across somewhat too melodramatic!). Challenge in and of itself is the reward: anything more is just a bonus. If you don’t think so, then you like to tell yourself that you want to overcome challenges when in reality you just crave to feel superior due to your “videogame achievements” which is honestly laughable.

And Arenanet recently started giving us challenging content: Candidate Trials t3 (done the intended way), Liadri + gambits, and now SAB hard mode. You are just upset that it’s not a dungeon (every MMo should be based on dungeons y’kno) and it doesn’t shower you more powerful gear.

<3 I will dream about you tonight.

Sleuth.7964:

Direksone.3867:

Sleuth.7964:

Galtrix.7369:

I’ll say this again. Being casual or hardcore depends on the amount of time you spend in the game, not the difficulty of the content. A casual player can still do difficult content, and a hardcore player can still do easy content.

Once Anet makes a dungeon, (preferably with 10-20 man parties), and if it took about an hour or 2 to complete, then and only then could GW2 say that they have hardcore content. All Anet needs to do is create long content and give proper rewards at the end for the time required to do that content and it will please people.

Not true sorry being hardcore is both through playing a game you get better and you can can complete difficult content most causal players are terrible and i’ve experienced this with my 10+ of playing mmos.

Casual is a term used to define a certain group of players that don’t play so much. Below x hours. It is NOT based on skill.

Sure but we all know the majority of causal players are not as good as hardcore players skill based

Lately I’ve been playing a lot because I’ve got more time for it, but otherwise I’d consider myself a casual and I hold myself pretty well. I also know plenty of people that play a LOT but are not that good. Some people don’t care about it either.

Behellagh.1468:

eisberg.2379:

Behellagh.1468:

Actually last reported quarter. 2nd quarter, the game had sales of roughly $9 million USD a month not $3 million.

Well, I am confused. It does show Sales Break down by game, and it shows 28,899,000,000 KRW (Which is ~$26 Million in US Dollars, which is a little less then $9Million per month) But in their sales by subsidaries, it shows Arenanet sales were at 11,459,000,000 KRW (~$10 Million).

Ah, you know what, NC Interactive (NCSoft West), publisher of GW2 and technically the parent company for the West probably also takes in a part of those sales.

It’s my belief that NCWest and NCEurope get a share for box and gem card sales at retail. ANet gets their cut of the box sales plus all the direct online sales including online gem sales.

Which is true. Money comes in: goes to NCsoft> Anet gets a share or fixed fee or whatever and that’s that. NCsoft will then decide if they invest more money or not into the game (for example for an expansion or what not)

Sleuth.7964:

Direksone.3867:

Ashen.2907:

Sleuth.7964:

Ashen.2907:

Nuka Cola.8520:

TheDaiBish.9735:

Nuka Cola.8520:

Meglobob.8620:

Casuals spend the most $ on gems because they having paying jobs.

Hardcore players or players who put the hours in use gold to buy gems.

Without casuals no GW2.

how could this be true is the game sold 3.5 mil? where did that money went to?

• Recuperating costs of developing the game
• Wages
• Bills – Building, Electric, Water
• Equipment maintenance + Server costs
• Profit

3.500.000 do i need to add anything else? Its not 500k we’re talking about but 3.5mil………… this is just sad excuses

250 (ish) employees.
$50k per year (just a number for demonstration).

$12,500,000 total salary cost.

Benefits, payroll taxes, etc can readily double that to $25,000,000 per year.

the 500k boxes you mention as being enough, at $60 each, equates to $30,000,000. A touch over one year of salary costs.

The game was in development for 5+ years.
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And that doesn’t even cover the costs of things like equipment (were they supposed to operate the game on abacuses ?). Electricity. Water. Property costs. Etc.

For a game to be in development for 5+ years it has many missing things. Sad excuse

I am making no excuses. The individual I quoted seemed to be claiming that 500k boxes was sufficient funding. I pointed out that such would barely cover payroll expenses for one year, let alone all of the other costs associate with running a business. Every game is missing many things. WoW has been in a state of continuous development for over a decade now and is still missing many things.

This. People are spoiled and used to 5+ year old games however and assume that when a new game comes out that that game has EVERYTHING the old game did. Nope. Not happening, never will.

WoW was made in 2003 Guild Wars 2012 im sorry but tech is higher and they should have all those futures wildstar has LFG in BETA it has duelign IN BETA it has trading in BETA all those futures

Face it Anet just messed up.

Not really as they’re not gamebreaking things. They don’t have trading in game probably because, as it has been brought up multiple times, for the gold sink. You can still send money and items over, a bit risky, but whatever. Also a LFG system requires a lot of work and whatnot. With gw2lfg.com it’s not really a necessity either anymore, but they’re working on it. About dueling: I don’t really care, probably fun, but also extremely messy and annoying if you could do so in cities so they’d have to make a seperate area. Again: little fun thing, but not anything gamechanging.

Anything else?

Sleuth.7964:

Galtrix.7369:

I’ll say this again. Being casual or hardcore depends on the amount of time you spend in the game, not the difficulty of the content. A casual player can still do difficult content, and a hardcore player can still do easy content.

Once Anet makes a dungeon, (preferably with 10-20 man parties), and if it took about an hour or 2 to complete, then and only then could GW2 say that they have hardcore content. All Anet needs to do is create long content and give proper rewards at the end for the time required to do that content and it will please people.

Not true sorry being hardcore is both through playing a game you get better and you can can complete difficult content most causal players are terrible and i’ve experienced this with my 10+ of playing mmos.

Casual is a term used to define a certain group of players that don’t play so much. Below x hours. It is NOT based on skill.

Ohhh another complaining and whining thread! How lovely! And yet here you still are, playing the game you so ‘despise’. How good you must feel investing all that time in the game and on the forums for something you don’t enjoy.

Ashen.2907:

Sleuth.7964:

Ashen.2907:

Nuka Cola.8520:

TheDaiBish.9735:

Nuka Cola.8520:

Meglobob.8620:

Casuals spend the most $ on gems because they having paying jobs.

Hardcore players or players who put the hours in use gold to buy gems.

Without casuals no GW2.

how could this be true is the game sold 3.5 mil? where did that money went to?

• Recuperating costs of developing the game
• Wages
• Bills – Building, Electric, Water
• Equipment maintenance + Server costs
• Profit

3.500.000 do i need to add anything else? Its not 500k we’re talking about but 3.5mil………… this is just sad excuses

250 (ish) employees.
$50k per year (just a number for demonstration).

$12,500,000 total salary cost.

Benefits, payroll taxes, etc can readily double that to $25,000,000 per year.

the 500k boxes you mention as being enough, at $60 each, equates to $30,000,000. A touch over one year of salary costs.

The game was in development for 5+ years.
——————————————————————————————

And that doesn’t even cover the costs of things like equipment (were they supposed to operate the game on abacuses ?). Electricity. Water. Property costs. Etc.

For a game to be in development for 5+ years it has many missing things. Sad excuse

I am making no excuses. The individual I quoted seemed to be claiming that 500k boxes was sufficient funding. I pointed out that such would barely cover payroll expenses for one year, let alone all of the other costs associate with running a business. Every game is missing many things. WoW has been in a state of continuous development for over a decade now and is still missing many things.

This. People are spoiled and used to 5+ year old games however and assume that when a new game comes out that that game has EVERYTHING the old game did. Nope. Not happening, never will.

Main demographic in gaming, regardless of genre = casuals. You know where the most money is earned? Apps and all those free online games, not MMO’s or anything like that. So yea they earn the most money there. Whether or not they specifically cater to them is another story, something we will never know. They’re trying to do something new and be different from the rest, some like that, some don’t. They atleast are trying to include everyone in their content whereas WoW and other games alienate certain groups or players from certain content.

Paul Belz.7351:

The original SAB achievement list will return, along with a new, separate achievement list for world 2.

There may even be a new special surprise for folks who finished the original list of achievements (which will also be available for folks who finish the original list while it is available)…

Woohooo! Makes me a very happen young man! Missed out on it so I wanna give it a go this time! Only heard good comments so I’m super stoked! Thanks!

+1 to this. I want this as well and if possible the mini’s from the previous edition. I missed out unfortunately and would love to have the opportunity to do get them nontheless! I don’t see a reason why not, but hey, that’s me!

I truely hope they do! Don’t see why not really, but yea that’s just me, the player who missed it, talking.

Put Mr Sparkles in the store for 500 gems or more, DO IT! :’( I want him really bad especially since I started collecting miniatures. It is a good thing to reward those that come out, but does it have to be ingame things I wonder?

butch.8136:

Who said it won’t be available? “Hardmode is coming out for world 2 AND world 1.”

You’re right, I overlooked that part and only noticed ‘Continue in World 2’. Then let me rephrase: will the achievements and such tied to it come back? Cheerio

Coming september 3rd Super Adventure Box part two!

EDIT: I overlooked something. It looks like World one is coming back. My question is: are the achievements and miniatures tied to it as well? That would be AWESOME if that’s the case as I sadly missed out last time and I keep hearing great things about this!

Soyle.1285:

You Think Living World is too:
[x] Time Consuming
[x] Temporary

I notice almost everyone here says the living world is too temporary.. Shouldn’t this ring a bell for Anet and change it to 4 weeks or another period instead of only 2 ?

Still wonder why they keep holding on to their 2 weeks, it will only result into more bad content that is rushed way too hard, and will be full with bugs, which will annoy the devs and the players. Heck, at this rate, I’m thinking about never bothering with the living story in the future, or just quit gw2..

You are forgetting they have 4 teams now that in about a month each have 8 weeks to work on the content. In theory it should get better from here. But there are still lessons to be learned and less temporary content to be added.

BobbyStein.2315:

I can empathize with having a busy life and not always being able to fit my gaming schedule in between work, home life, and social commitments. Your comments are not lost on us.

We’re exploring some ideas for the future, including a system that would allow certain bits of Living World content to be accessed independent of the release. Plans and designs have not been solidified yet, so I want to temper your expectations. But if you have any opinions on the matter feel free to let us know. We’re already looking at ways to leave some LW content behind to evolve Tyria and improve the game. This would be one element of it, should we decide to build such a feature.

That would be a GREAT addition Bobby. I understand holiday events and stuff are there only for when they take place, makes sense. I do hope that storydriven things will become somehow repeatable in the future. Something I would suggest regardless is a ‘log’ or journal like that of your personal story but about the Living Story. Explaining what happened in each chapter so new players or those coming back know what’s been going on.

On a personal note: I would like to see the achievements related to the dungeons come back (especially since AR and MF are coming back as Fractals). At the time AR was a bit buggy and due to the limited time and challenge (which I welcome) it was difficult to do the Mai Trinn fight without getting hit by the cannons or the Asura fight without getting hit by the lasers. Both of these are actual achievements (more of these) and I welcome this challenge. I hope achievements like these can be brought back in the Fractals to give other players a whack at it too. Items and all that shouldn’t be brought back to have some sense of value, but I don’t see why achievements can’t be.

Thanks for this bit of info Bobby.

The only thing that I don’t like about the fight is the horrible camera, but that applies to all the Gauntlet fights. The mechanics I find fun and challenging and I am proud of myself that I have done it. It better come back for other players to do it as opposed to all those Living Story achievements that just disappear, while they’re challenging (AR).

Hmm. Yea now that you guys mention also the activities it is quite silly. Those achievements SHOULD be back especially seeing how buggy Crab Toss was at the time. While I understand certain drops don’t come back I don’t see a reason why the achievements shouldn’t. Sigh.. I guess I’m beating a dead horse then.

Thing is also with prestige: if you make it difficult enough it has that prestige, like Liadri (which I got). Something that was buggy (AR) and bound by a limited time is not prestige. If something is hard enough it has prestige, it’s not prestigious because it was there for a short time.

Yep. Agreed. I would also like to see it in the gemstore. 800 gems? Hell yea! Mr. Sparkles is effing cool and I wanna be able to get as many mini’s as possible, if not all (but I started a bit late and I’m not sure if I still can). I understand they want to reward people from coming there, but I still don’t agree.

Brother Grimm.5176:

Direksone.3867:

I recently started collecting mini’s and I have a completionist attitude, I would love to have Mr. Sparkles, but I can’t so easily go to Gamescon. I would like it if they put him in the gemstore for 500-800 gems or whatever as well for a limited time.

So you don’t get the mini….accept it and move on. Maybe they will put it on the Gem Store in a few years, but I doubt it. Anet has put out exclusive mini’s since the start of GW1 and the several extremely rare ones have never been available in any other way (that I’m aware of). Now if you want to complain that minis are all account bound, that’s another discussion.

Nobody is intentionally provoking your ADD tendencies, they just want to reward those that went to a convention event with something special.

And still it’s a shame for a lot of the collectors out there.

Well, why not go out there and explore then? Aside from LS stuff taking place it’s also really fun to see some of the zones and explore them.

Hi,

I was wondering if achievements that are dungeon related that were there during the LS of it will also be put back to be obtained when they are put in the fractals. If there is no definitive answer to this then I vote yes! Unless the dungeons are being reworked then it might not be possible. What do you think?

Brother Grimm.5176:

Not sure why people are upset that some items can be “exclusive”. These are novelties, not anything that is required to play the game (you know…what you PAID for).

I recently started collecting mini’s and I have a completionist attitude, I would love to have Mr. Sparkles, but I can’t so easily go to Gamescon. I would like it if they put him in the gemstore for 500-800 gems or whatever as well for a limited time.

Cletus Van Damme.2795:

1. Open up Guild Wars 2 and log in.
2. Select a character.
3. Press o.
4. Click “Redeem Code”
5. Enter the code you were given at Gamescon.
6. Open up the mail that is sent to you, make sure your inbox has space free.

For real?! That’s lame. I recently started collecting mini’s and Mr. Sparkles would be a great addition. Very expensive to go to Gamescon and they hand out brilliant minis there? Bah..

They also mentioned Ascended gear coming, so perhaps then?

Well it is the wrong forum subsection. Do you have auto attack on? I don’t so I’ve never noticed it.

Six.8051:

TurtleofPower.5641:

in the open world it would just slow everyone’s computer down.

there are ways anet could work around that to avoid causing framerate or lag issues for players by implementing display options for minis or simply adding some form of culling for them.

on a side note: people that complain about terrible lag, and they’re running the game on some old, low-budget laptop using the on-board Intel HD 3000 graphics. get a paper route or pizza delivery job, save for a month or two, and buy a decent desktop. decent mid-range desktops run for about $500-700 nowadays.

That applies to 16 year olds living at their parents. Most people, like me, have plenty of fixed costs every month and ‘saving for a month or two’ is kitten near impossible. Please get your head out of your kitten .

Would be cool if they’d attack. Don’t have to even do or take damage. Since I recently started collecting them the thing I really want is POLYMOCK! Using mini’s we have in Pokemon style battles. 21 years old and I still love Pokemon, haha.

Would be cool to have them level, gain skills etc. I think that’d be a really fun addition to the game as another activity. Anyone else thinks such a thing is cool?! Then we should make a support thread.

Anything that deals high DPS is good, I run HGH FT personally and it does the job well. Grenade kit still is the best DPS I believe and does well, as well as a Static Discharge build. SD builds are quite bursty, you can pair it with the Grenade Kit if you like to take Gadget Utilities (thats what I did).

Shpongle.6025:

i like it, good patch, way better than that utter filth that was Liadri, Liadri was so stupid, i did it, but so dumb and stupid….

“Doesn’t like certain content. Goes to every topic to rant about it, even if it’s offtopic.”

TheKillerAngel.3596:

If I’m going to be fairly blunt, compared to other AAA games with good cutscenes and cinematics, Guild Wars 2’s are very weak. Compare anything from GW2 to this:

StarCraft 2: Heart of the Swarm
http://youtu.be/L2o5dnVuxiI?t=3m15s

Mass Effect 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjTuSQNLI4

Halo 4
http://youtu.be/GbjA6rB98Yk?t=51m58s

Guild Wars 2 lacks:

- Unique animations for close ups of characters (i.e. characters in cinematics are using the same animations that they are when in open world)
- Good cinematography for cutscenes
- In depth facial animations/speech simulation

These things are some of many elements that are required for engaging cutscenes. I don’t blame the GW2 team – their living story content is not “replayable” therefore it doesn’t make much sense for them to invest a lot into cutscenes. Additionally, as an MMORPG, GW2 is going to place a lot more emphasis on gameplay over story. I suppose the day will come when story and narrative become more valuable in MMOs, but investing in these things has an opportunity cost that right now isn’t worth it for most companies (See: SWTOR).

Yea compare million dollar games with months if not years to develop, whereas that cinematic had about 2 weeks of work in it to each other. The arty part with Lord Faren was beautiful and I’d like more of that. Powerful and to the point, no bugginess or glitchiness and fits the artstyle GW has going well.

Thank you Tobi. I’m gonna call you Tobi. ’Cause I like you.

Sarie.1630:

Slow story telling speed is only one of my complaints anyway. At the moment it’s like reading one line of a novel every 2 weeks.

That I do agree with, though the LS instance of the closing ceremony was a lot better than previous ones imo, it’s still quite lackluster. Though I haven’t been to her funhouse yet so there’s probably more there as well. You have to realize though that the teams haven’t had 8 weeks, which they will have in the future, to make this content. Already making that cinematic takes a lot of work apparently as they had to change and cut some stuff from it. Right now every team has about a month to make all this stuff, whereas in the future it will be 8 weeks. I hope that it will also increase the amount of story put into the game. The short stories are fun as well that are put on the website, but I feel they should do more as well. Like with Evons short story you got to know him a bit more, but I would’ve liked a couple more of those to really get to know him. But I guess that will happen in due time.

Nilkemia.8507:

Given that the Inquest are working with the Aetherblades (and her, by extension) it’s possible that they arranged for her to be able to attend and graduate all 3 colleges. That’s only speculation though, otherwise my suspension of disbelief is utterly broken.

She’s not ugly, but not pretty either..Her voice is good, but her personality is rather shallow. “Hey, let’s kill everyone! Oh, by the way, the Pavilion’s mine now! Hahahaha!”

The only thing left is me puzzling just how she came to be. Was she a Nightmare courtier who decided to seek more knowledge from the Inquest during their attempts to cooperate in the Brisban Wildlands? Is she a Soundless who decided to completely shun the Dream in favor of her twisted fun?

Or could she not be from the Pale Tree we know of? There’s at least another one out there..what if the Inquest have found it first? She does seem to have a distinct look from other Sylvari, and seems rather young, even by Sylvari standards.

Still, just speculation. We’ll have to wait and see.

She isn’t from the pale tree. I believe that was mentioned in the story instance, but I might be mistaken, correct me if I’m wrong on that.

Haha fine. You’ll only spoil your experience.

zeromius.1604:

Direksone.3867:

I think this mechanic opens up a lot of cool ideas for boss fights!

You just reminded me of the Ancient Karka. You finish him off by stomping on the ground and he falls into this big lava pit. Even if it’s just for aesthetics I thin it would be pretty epic to finish a boss off with style.

hehe perhaps that too but also just fights in general where you’d have to make sure mobs stay downed or a certain order or whatever. WoW had something like that in Trial of the Crusader, very fun mechanics and quite challenging. (Oh kitten I just mentioned WoW. I’ll light the fire for the stake)