Guild Wars 2

Coloxeus.3480:

Excalibur.9748:

shortbow is not an option (or it would if there wasn’t a 15s cooldown to switch weapon), I don’t know why people keep bringing up this weapon.

well some scenario shortbow will be a good choice sniping and cluster bombing in clash while your teammates fighting @ Capturing point and for kiting

i meant for this scenario.

shortbow is not an option (or it would if there wasn’t a 15s cooldown to switch weapon), I don’t know why people keep bringing up this weapon.

It’s pretty standard tactics to drag the fight away from black powder when facing D/P thief. Actually once I died a couple of times to a D/P thief while on my S/D thief cuz I stayed close to the black powder and tried to engage him there….

afterwards I thought about it, and realized that is ****ing stupid and never do it anymore. After you realize that one thing, you realize D/P is also a one trick pony.

Here’s a possible GS rework:

Whirlwind Attack’s CD has been increased from 10s to 15s.

This would cut down on the 100blades→Whirlwind combo spam a bit, as well as reducing warrior mobility. 2 birds with 1 stone really.

evilapprentice.6379:

Excalibur.9748:

Swap it with shadow’s embrace if you must. anything else would be underpowered compared to its current state for a build that utilizes it.

Shadows embrace feels kind of strong – that’s considered one of the “Required” traits for SA, and its a rather powerful one.Giving players another major trait they can take (since one of their bread and butter traits was moved to minor) seems like too much. I can’t say for sure it would be OP, but at first glance it certainly feels so.

Shadow protector is a good choice specifically because (IMO) it’s powerful enough to be useful, it just exists among other traits that overshadow it.

shadow protector is certainly decent for a stealth heavy build but it will not have the potential to really save you like last refuge currently does. shadow’s embrace is the only trait that can potentially have the same effect.

Swap it with shadow’s embrace if you must. anything else would be underpowered compared to its current state for a build that utilizes it.

It’s still too easy to take a tower. Siege needs to be buffed more I think.

Crovax.7854:

Excalibur.9748:

Crovax.7854:

Excalibur.9748:

Didn’t watch video but the recurring theme is if you beat a warrior, then “look warrior is not OP you beat him” and if you lose then “L2P noob. adapt.”

Hey Fenrir, do you still have the compilation of all the quotes from this guy with which
he embarrassed himself. You know, just so the people here can decide for themselves
wether to listen to certain individuals or not.

That’s called trolling bro, which got his topic closed the first time.

Besides, my posting history has nothing to do with this. Especially since I didn’t do anything wrong.

As i said, it serves to show people your opinion on that matter bro
I remember a particular one where you stated that thief should always
come out on top against warriors for whatever reason. Another one where you claimed to win against warriors almost always and another one where you admitted that you are a mediocre player. So what does that tell us?

I’ve always wanted to respond with a haiku so here I go!

Warriors are OP
Dodging more effectively
Huge animation

bravo. +1 from me

I’ve explained that a couple of times. I used to spam flanking strike, possibly like Coloxeus but I’ve moved on from that. Besides I run 30/30/5/5/0 which means it is NOT possible to spam it. At the time, spamming it worked relatively well anyways but I no longer spam it. There is nothing wrong with spamming if it works well…which it doesn’t anymore. So how does that make me a bad player?

Also like I explained a few times already but warrior is good/OP at everything, and thief is ONLY good at roaming so reason stands that thief should be better at roaming….maybe NOT win everytime but at least 90%+ of the time.

Crovax.7854:

Excalibur.9748:

Didn’t watch video but the recurring theme is if you beat a warrior, then “look warrior is not OP you beat him” and if you lose then “L2P noob. adapt.”

Hey Fenrir, do you still have the compilation of all the quotes from this guy with which
he embarrassed himself. You know, just so the people here can decide for themselves
wether to listen to certain individuals or not.

That’s called trolling bro, which got his topic closed the first time.

Besides, my posting history has nothing to do with this. Especially since I didn’t do anything wrong.

Yes DA tree needs to be buffed.

Almost noone goes 30 into DA (except for me), for good reason I’d say.

Didn’t watch video but the recurring theme is if you beat a warrior, then “look warrior is not OP you beat him” and if you lose then “L2P noob. adapt.”

Yep looks like sword OP for sure.

God-Tier:
Guardian/Warrior
They are the backbone of any group. Need to have lots of these guys for front line.
You’d want to have 70-80% of the group filled by these guys.

Good-Tier:
Necromancer/Mesmer/Elementalist:
Support classes. Good for supporting the front line so they can really do some damage.
Have 20-30% of these guys. Not too much though, since they’re there for support.

Okay-Tier:
Thief/Ranger/Engineer
Thief is good for trolling and spying not much else. Ranger is good for sPvP.
Don’t really need any of these. Maybe 1 thief to cause confusion.

The boss wasn’t made so everyone could beat it. I agree that maybe there could be an option to make the AoE rings a different colour for people who struggle to see it, but Liadri itself is fine.

Bovinity.8610:

you can kill strugar first, then when chomper is alone, kill him.

That’s generally just making things much harder on yourself though, seeing as how Chomper turns into a one-shotting demon-beast once Strugar is down. =O

is it? i know you’re a thief so you should have no problem killing him with black powder spam once strugar is down at your leisure.

Dendail.4896:

Excalibur.9748:

We already have shortbow for AoE support, no point having 2 weapons to do the same thing. Focus on improving P/P for single target ranged damage.

Shortbow’s utility is spreading weakness, mobility, and blast finishers.

Pistols would be AoE Vulnerability & Blinds.

How are these the same?

Shortbow can’t really spread weakness anymore, lotus poison trait got gutted. It’s good for ranged AoE damage primarily and for mobility.

Pistols most people use for ranged single target damage. I dunno anyone who use this to spread AoE vulnerability & blinds, I think you’re alone on that one.

We already have shortbow for AoE support, no point having 2 weapons to do the same thing. Focus on improving P/P for single target ranged damage.

I think many people want to keep P/P as the single-target ranged damage set for now.

I noticed that people keep saying P/P is not viable, but this is fine, I rather like it and so will keep using it. Spamming unload is just easy (more so with signet of malice regen) so that fits my PvE playstyle more or less.

As for how to make it viable….I think body shot needs to be improved. I noticed I never use 5 or 2 on the P/P set because….well…they don’t suit the set. (or even 4 actally, unload spam ftw) I think body shot for sure, could use something,

you can kill strugar first, then when chomper is alone, kill him.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

If you played GW1, Thief is the easiest to play since most of the mechanics in GW1 are brought into GW2 through the Thief profession.

The initiative resource is akin to the energy resource in GW1 so those who played GW1 knows how to budget this kind of resources, so the learning curve is not too bad. Survivability is also akin to Assassins in GW1 so the most important aspect of survivability is to limit the number of hits taken by being evasive.

I can understand if the Thief profession is harder to grasp for those who have not played GW1. And one thing missing in GW2 is an actual in-game profession trainer who guides players on what their profession is all about and to show them simple skill combinations to stimulate player creativity.

I agree. Transition from GW1 thief to GW2 thief is pretty nice. I picked up the GW2 thief immediately. But transition from GW1 ele and GW2 ele is not smooth at all. They’re like completely different classes.

Taobella.6597:

i beat stage 1 with short bow and stage 2 with d/d xD

d/d? how does that work

S/D is actually listed as a counter to stunlock warrior.

They have almost unlimited stuns…you have almost unlimited semi-stunbreaks with shadow return.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Excalibur.9748:

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Standard keyboard/mouse:
Tab = Heal
Q = Nearest Target
Middle Mouse = Next Target
E, R, F = Utilities
Shift = Elite
Z= Loot
The two little side buttons on the mouse are mapped to #1 and Call Target, respectively.

And most importantly, I changed S from walk backwards to Dodge. Biggest boost to my gameplay by far.

So you can’t walk backwards anymore???

Nope. It’s slower than all other movement. If I want to run backwards, I rotate the view and strafe sideways.

As for dodge, if no other directional key is pressed, it defaults to a backwards dodge roll.

Have you killed liadri?

Ideally, you’d want to move as fast as strafing while moving backwards, but if you changed your camera so you can go backwards while strafing, you’re no longer facing your target…so not too sure if the unloads can still connect.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Standard keyboard/mouse:
Tab = Heal
Q = Nearest Target
Middle Mouse = Next Target
E, R, F = Utilities
Shift = Elite
Z= Loot
The two little side buttons on the mouse are mapped to #1 and Call Target, respectively.

And most importantly, I changed S from walk backwards to Dodge. Biggest boost to my gameplay by far.

So you can’t walk backwards anymore???

last refuge is only “sweet” if you don’t use stealth offensively as a thief.

that’s not really a “special” mapping but if we’re counting those then I have my utilities mapped to q,e,r respectively.

Have you played a thief? We don’t even have F2.

There was noticeable inflation occuring.

That makes sense, but the blinding powder when <25% health should still proc.

I can’t live without these:

Aoe loot – middle mouse button
Sheathe current weapon – mouse button 5
Roll – mouse button 4
Look backwards – Z

Warrior + Thief dynamic DUO!

Gwalchgwn.1659:

Ppl who suggest new weapons, they can’t be exclusive rly. There are always multiple classes who can use the weapons. Shuriken/kunai isn’t rly a weapon that any class besides thief would be using (lorewise). Same for chain and sickle.

They can be exclusive. I’ll allow it

you don’t need one. try all weapons, and see which you like.

I use it for PvE, I like its synergy with signet of malice.

Good, should’ve been nerfed a long time ago.

Roaming is not just about killing stragglers. When I roam, I have a purpose in mind.

Do I defend that camp about to be flipped? Do I flip this camp that doesn’t belong to us currently? I can also flip other objectives and kill sentries. A tower of ours got flipped and with no enemies to defend it? I’m going to drop a flame ram here and get it built.

Killing other people are something that happens as a byproduct but not what I seek to do. If all you do is literally roam around without caring for objectives then you really are just “trolling”.

I’m in T2 currently (Tarnished coast) and I find plenty of opportunities to do just that. Besides I move with the zerg when there is one because that’s WvW akittens core.

FS/LS needs to be made better, not more spammable. It’s already being spammed as is and we have a bad reputation of doing mindless “3” spam.

shuriken and kunai

because mesmer was good once upon a time, took a ****load of nerfs, and is now but a shadow of its former glory.

warrior is a rising superstar on the other hand with unmitigated potential for growth.

follow the zerg around, spam 1, collect loot bags profit.

This is like the maplestory zakum jump quest. I had to get my guild leader to do it for me cuz I suck so bad with jump quest.

Unlike this which the reward is a mere mini, a lot more actually important things are tied to being able to complete that jump quest.

I’d say mini isn’t really worth worrying about in any case but I guess some people must have.

color of liadri mini doesn’t matter if you play on anything other than lowest settings…

you don’t need zerk gear, I did it with only 3 zerk pieces. and I didn’t memorize anything. I just had a strategy for every possible outcome.

That pretty much also counts as “knowing the fight inside out”

i use it but it needs a buff still.

Dakan.9463:

Hey I was finally able to it. Although I used a different build as this one. I figured I’d share it here in case someone is interested. It’s basically bleading her to death. In the calc it shows exotics but only my armor is exotic for the rest I used cheap greens.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQJAqYlYmaOXey9E9JFBnCm6UPFfdsaFoZnCuGfA-jQxA4sAmDLiGr2BTjGZVqQKA-e

Glad you were able to leave the ‘Giving up on Liadri’ club!

1) S/D, Shortbow
2) 30/30/5/5/0
3) WvW

1) S/P, P/P
2) 20/30/0/20/0
3) PvE

Rimu.7105:

Exalibur…I have spent 10g on repairs alone, atleast 5g on buying extra tickets, I have leveled and geared a charater to 80 (a warrior sense people said its easier on a warrior), and I cant even get 10% of her health down….

its not going to happen

Sorry to hear that. Did you enjoy the experience at least? And you probably got a lot better from all that training

What you’re saying is pretty much what I believed in, until I spent a lot of time theorycrafting various builds, and then finally settled on one. I could notice myself getting a lot better progressively until I could reliably get her to 5-10% HP and then I downed her!

I was stuck on phase 1 for the LONGEST time too. But once I learned what to do, I could reliably clear phase 1. And then afterwards phase 2 was not too hard either once I figured out what to do.

Rimu.7105:

Where do I submit my appiclation…I cant for the live of me beat her, there is WAY to much going on in that fight for a single person fight, I cant attack, kite, avoid AoE, and avoid Crashs, and attack from behind myself, at the same time

Yes you can! Believe in yourself!

Okay here’s my equip when I defeated liadri:
http://www.twitch.tv/sakraycore/c/2763653

here’s a video guide for this build:
http://www.twitch.tv/sakraycore/c/2763587

Kinda got off to a horrible start in the beginning but pulled through due to extensive experience and no panicking.

I’m gonna post up my equip in next post.