Guild Wars 2

i believe in 50% crit chance

I didn’t complete the meta achievement, can I still expect a dolyak finisher or do I get nothing?

signet of malice will not be able to recoup it. signet of malice + slice of candied dragon roll + blood sigil + sword auto attack will.

still a cheap signet.

What: Skelk Venom
Why: It’s so bad, it’s good.

wth is this signet, feels so cheap.

I sent you a PM.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Swap to SB

Spam 1

Swap to S/P

Black Powder on downed

Spam 1

Repeat

lolz people don’t use finisher in a zerg they just auto attack them to death xD

the spam 1 part is pretty accurate tho

What: Sanduskel’s Thief
Why: Too stronk

Lighter.5631:

Excalibur.9748:

it’s hard to beat healing signet but this could be it guys! a heal that’s stronger than healing signet.

wait what, a wvw thief complaining about wvw warrior? how cute.

i play hard mode thief w/o stealth. i don’t think a clicker like you would understand.

Lighter.5631:

Excalibur.9748:

jmatb.6307:

Thief is gonna be fine. All the doom and gloom predictions are pretty hilarious, considering how heavily people have been leaning on the S/D crutch.

there is literally 0 interest for S/D set anymore amongst thieves., including its founder – jumper the S/D2 acrobat. it’s a dead set if i ever seen one.

Lol, i can’t believe you just say that, just go back to your cave.

You know everything i said became true, do you really want to bet against me noob?

Oh wait you’ll just claim you’re “counter-trolling” when S/D is a dead set after Dec.10

Lighter.5631:

Excalibur.9748:

Click to dodge is utlra hard mode, it aquire insane amount of accuracy of aiming.

“Click to dodge is utlra hard mode, it aquire insane amount of accuracy of aiming.” – Lighter

Thanks for the new signature noob.

Try it , i bet you can’t dodge a kitten with it. wanna bet? oh wait, you can’t even dodge anything by pressing buttons.

you want signatures? there’s a tons epic ones come from your own. want me to find them for ya?

Why would I try it? Oh wait I need a handicap just to fight complete noobs like you. Got it.

Pretty much everything you say is signature worthy ahahaha. I’m done here I got no time to waste with 3 year olds.

Click to dodge is utlra hard mode, it aquire insane amount of accuracy of aiming.

“Click to dodge is utlra hard mode, it aquire insane amount of accuracy of aiming.” – Lighter

Thanks for the new signature noob.

clicking skills is nothing, some warriors click to dodge. that’s the ultimate show of skill right there.

if you’re high rank, you’ll get matched with lower rank teammates now.

i’m guessing you’re high rank.

also like you said, if you’re not playing warrior or necro right now you’re not doing your team any favors either. i’m guessing you’re playing thief lol.

it only removes one

i was a bit conservative, i actually feel that this is a big enough nerf to kill off S/D set completely from PvP/WvW.

it is a big nerf if you don’t use it too much, but for competitive play it’s crucial and can be considered as a make or break skill.

it’s hard to beat healing signet but this could be it guys! a heal that’s stronger than healing signet.

warrior necro meta lmao.

#4signets. passive play 4 the win.

Cynz.9437:

still garbage (unless ridicilously high healing numbers) compared to HiS or withdraw

The numbers are so high it’s over 90!!!1!!! (if you hit all kittens)

It was kitten on purpose to show that even the worst class can get carried in the new fractals. He didn’t even have any underwater weapons or skills IIRC.

Who are we kidding here, devs don’t play thieves.

You mean this?
http://www.gw2db.com/skills/23539-skelk-venom

What: Unload
Why: ANET devs love to spam this skill

BlazeQ.1095:

I haven’t heard a word of bickering on NSP in a while Especially during the league play. Strange how we can get slaughtered in the PPT game but have such a blast in the open field game.

That’s not what Fortus thinks.

Jaxs.5830:

Of all the servers I have played on Maguuma is a pretty low drama server, nothing really between any of the guilds. Generally speaking Mag is a play as you like and make fun of everyone that takes it too seriously kind of server, which lends well to low drama.

I wouldn’t say we have the best coordination between guilds though. More informal collaboration based on current situation, then overall coordination.

I would rate Maguuma as a very high drama server. Your server got the best forum warriors lmao.

well with pistol whip you’re probably gonna be okay since it gives you evade. but yes, it’s a big nerf.

Big Tower.5423:

1500 hp + 1 condi clear on dodge = New hard to catch acobatics grandmaster trait revamp

1500 HP healing !?!?!?

I’d take it even if it just gave 1 condi clear on dodge lol.

Nice idea though.

how much gold?

right now though PvE is like 5x more profitable than WvW

What: Stealth
Why: Stealth op!!111!!!1

Just do it.

NevirSayDie.6235:

The patch on the 10th is going to shake things up a lot. I don’t think it’s wise to get worked up until we see what happens.

Remember that not too long ago, the forums were saying the same things—only it was that warriors and necros needed huge buffs, and eles that needed huge nerfs. The forums were always so mad when another patch passed and warriors only received minor buffs. We kept saying that Anet needed to just hurry up and make a huge change. And then they did.

2 different groups complaining here.

Pre buff: warrior and necro mains demanding buffs.
Post buff: everyone else demanding nerfs.

try doing it without 3 warriors

eithinan.9841:

Excalibur.9748:

eithinan.9841:

Fortus.6175:

ah w/e, I give up on the case, at this point I realize nothing will be done about it, I guess I now know what to do; join the hemorrage and tag along another zerg-fest top 3 server WvW for a chance of getting nice things. Yay.

Maybe if you didnt give up on things 6 hours after you start something you will have better results?

KeyLimPi.9031:

Ostra.3927:

join the top three = winning. No other servers matter to Anet it seems

Screw the top 3. TC forever! T1.5 forever

TC beat SOR. You are officially T1.

Nope still T1.5

It’s easy to see JQ and BG still much stronger.

final league placements will be
1.BG
2.JQ
3.TC
4.SOR

T1 is servers rank 1-3. TC is rank 3. thus TC=T1

disclaimer I know there are no tiers…but there are so many tears.

i predicted TC 3rd place finish at the beginning of the season but it doesn’t mean TC > SoR , it just means TC got some easier matches than SoR.

eithinan.9841:

Fortus.6175:

ah w/e, I give up on the case, at this point I realize nothing will be done about it, I guess I now know what to do; join the hemorrage and tag along another zerg-fest top 3 server WvW for a chance of getting nice things. Yay.

Maybe if you didnt give up on things 6 hours after you start something you will have better results?

KeyLimPi.9031:

Ostra.3927:

join the top three = winning. No other servers matter to Anet it seems

Screw the top 3. TC forever! T1.5 forever

TC beat SOR. You are officially T1.

Nope still T1.5

It’s easy to see JQ and BG still much stronger.

The build is dead, time to move on after Dec.10.

a balance miracle may occur sometime in the future, but it will not be the dec.10 one.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Excalibur.9748:

jmatb.6307:

Thief is gonna be fine. All the doom and gloom predictions are pretty hilarious, considering how heavily people have been leaning on the S/D crutch.

it’s not a prediction it’s already happening, there is literally 0 interest for S/D set anymore amongst thieves., including its founder – jumper the S/D2 acrobat. it’s a dead set if i ever seen one.

Your so clueless

we’ll see after dec.10 who the clueless one is.

jmatb.6307:

Thief is gonna be fine. All the doom and gloom predictions are pretty hilarious, considering how heavily people have been leaning on the S/D crutch.

it’s not a prediction it’s already happening, there is literally 0 interest for S/D set anymore amongst thieves., including its founder – jumper the S/D2 acrobat. it’s a dead set if i ever seen one.

Finnway.2183:

Case in point: For the first 6 months of SC2: Heart of The Swarm everyone complained the Widow-Mine unit was OP. They have not released any balance patches effecting the unit, and now everyone complains it is underpowered and needs a buff. Players simply evolved their play and learned counter it. Now, professional players don’t use it any more.

uh looks like widow mine was nerfed , and it’s about to get a smaller nerf now.

Hi guys,

We’d like to tweak the changes on the current balance test map a little bit this week.

Instead of doing the Revelation range buff, we’d like to try a change where units that are hit by Revelation can’t remove it by simply burrowing or cloaking. Burrowing or cloaking will still hide the unit, but unburrowing/uncloaking will reveal it again.

We’d also like to try a lesser version of the Widow Mine nerf. Right now, we feel just straight downgrading to the 1.25 range is too big of a nerf. Therefore, we’d like to try a change where widow mines don’t do full damage. Units within the 1.25 radius will take 100% damage like we’re testing right now. From 1.25 to 1.75, units will take 50% or 25% of the full damage. This way, the total splash radius is the same as is on live, but the actual damage output is still nerfed.

Edit to clarify:

Here’s how we’re intending the Widow Mine change to work:

Units inside a 1.25 radius take 100% damage. (40 damage)
From 1.25 to 1.5, units take 50%. (20 damage)
From 1.5 to 1.75, units take 25%. (10 damage)

Locuz.2651:

And to all the bitter people. Be happy that Arenanet is trying to make something happen (even if its babysteps at a time). You could be playing wow where 75% of the 3v3 teams at the top are warriors….with no fixes incoming untill far in to 2014.

You mean we’re not there yet? Oh well we’re getting there

Lordrosicky.5813:

Excalibur.9748:

well why would you play on a class that is gonna be dead (thief) in dec.10 patch?

as for warrior, many people said it’s op after a week or 2 of HS buff (some even before the patch came out) but the post was only in warrior section so people in sPvP didn’t realize this yet. but after CC used it then tPvP people realized it’s good finally.

but ofcourse “buzz/publicity” is necessary for a build to become popular. Like literally everyone knows thief is gonna be dead come dec.10 so noone plays it even though S/D is still viable right now.

lol @ thief being dead. It will still be amazing

prepare to eat your words

well why would you play on a class that is gonna be dead (thief) in dec.10 patch?

as for warrior, many people said it’s op after a week or 2 of HS buff (some even before the patch came out) but the post was only in warrior section so people in sPvP didn’t realize this yet. but after CC used it then tPvP people realized it’s good finally.

but ofcourse “buzz/publicity” is necessary for a build to become popular. Like literally everyone knows thief is gonna be dead come dec.10 so noone plays it even though S/D is still viable right now.

Incurafy.6329:

Excalibur.9748:

ronpierce.2760:

Silferas.3841:

@OP: l2p dude, seriously. I multiclass every single profession in this game and thieves (especially backstab) are only strong in wvw right now (and even there they aren’t as broken as condi mesmers/necros/warriors or pretty much half of the stuff you see roaming).

S/F Zerker ele, glkittenter mesmer, Static Discharge engi, DPS meditation guardian, and I am pretty sure there is a number of other specs. All of these DO deal MORE DAMAGE than backstab thief does.

Not to mention the backstab spec is not even the apex build for pvp right now.

Also just wanted to say, 10/30/0/0/30 I believe it is, is D/p and it does pretty well in pvp, and it uses backstab. Just cause it’s not D/D doesn’t mean it doesn’t use backstab. There are viable dagger builds. Not saying they’re OP, I’m just saying they’re more out there than you think. Also, I’m fairly certain 10/30/0/0/30 builds will be a little better off after the patch because it doesn’t use any initiative traits, so they’ll have better init gain. (Unless I’ve forgotten about some other nerfs that would hurt them specifically)

all tPvP thief builds use initiative traits. Do you even play thief?

Actually, D/P 25/30/0/0/15 and 10/30/0/0/30 only use Infil Sig, Opportunist and Klepto for ini regen, both traits just being a minor trait consequence, not intentionally taken.

Those are all ini regen traits/skill and you’re just arguing semantics now.

hahaha OP just a tip, you’re not really helping your argument at all. But keep it up good job man.

Cynz.9437:

Lighter.5631:

Arganthium.5638:

Lighter.5631:

Arganthium.5638:

ronpierce.2760:

Arganthium.5638:

I’m sort about Backstab’s coefficient of 2.4. You must have difficulty defeating thieves with your Rifle’s Kill Shot’s coefficient of 3.75. :c

Oh god, please never pretend Kill Shot is a reliable/good skill. I don’t play warrior and even I know that move is an absolute joke… >_>:

If you’re talking about the cast time, then I could always mention that you first have to, y’know, see your enemy coming, and then you have to react extremely quickly; not burning all of your evades is probably going to be necessary, because the effects of being 1-shotted are disastrous otherwise.

Either way, that’s over 150% of BS’s damage; of course it should have some weaknesses.

i wonder why rifle was never a viable weapon in tpvp.

I just used it in sPvP. Created a warrior 20 mins ago, was too lazy to find a good build online. I just created a GC rifle build and it worked extremely well compared to other BS’d builds I’ve made in the past.

and i run my thief naked in spvp, real cool story.

tbh i don’t think it would matter if thief has armor on or not, they get one shot either way haha

hahaha funny bcuz true.

lol you got me xD

i like this fractal, it’s a decent challenge. one possible improvement is to make it so you can not just skip all the dredges on your way to place the bomb and should have to kill them first.

i get this too and it seems to be insane desync lag

100% thieves is best

ronpierce.2760:

Silferas.3841:

@OP: l2p dude, seriously. I multiclass every single profession in this game and thieves (especially backstab) are only strong in wvw right now (and even there they aren’t as broken as condi mesmers/necros/warriors or pretty much half of the stuff you see roaming).

S/F Zerker ele, glkittenter mesmer, Static Discharge engi, DPS meditation guardian, and I am pretty sure there is a number of other specs. All of these DO deal MORE DAMAGE than backstab thief does.

Not to mention the backstab spec is not even the apex build for pvp right now.

Also just wanted to say, 10/30/0/0/30 I believe it is, is D/p and it does pretty well in pvp, and it uses backstab. Just cause it’s not D/D doesn’t mean it doesn’t use backstab. There are viable dagger builds. Not saying they’re OP, I’m just saying they’re more out there than you think. Also, I’m fairly certain 10/30/0/0/30 builds will be a little better off after the patch because it doesn’t use any initiative traits, so they’ll have better init gain. (Unless I’ve forgotten about some other nerfs that would hurt them specifically)

all tPvP thief builds use initiative traits. Do you even play thief?

It’s actually a good thing imo. Because then it becomes really obvious who the OP one is when any Joe Schmo can roll one and find out for themself in a minute. I’d rather it be this way tbh.

Then again, it’s kinda funny a mesmer make this topic because all the warriors say “any decent mesmer crush them in 1v1”, it’s probably their only counter right now.

Weird rally…I ended up jumping into the magma and I ended up back on top though so it worked out.