Guild Wars 2

thewildgoz.4962:

I really dont know how could people so selfish exist….. it hurts no one to have the elite early….. Even those 80 PPL who are arguin about to not to have, i must ask you a question; why did you care so much about the people that wants the elite earlier do not get it? is not like you will be running with your 80 in the open low pve areas… in what way doest it hurt you or hurts the game…. Even this so called expecializations doesn’t bring a op factor in leveling is just a new way to do the things, even i know many many players who are gonna to stick to vanilla for the end game contend and even pvp just beacause vanilla talents are much better in some cases….

You are being selfish yourself, having it at 21, especially when there are multiple elite specs for each class in the future, is the most confusing thing ever for new players. Think ahead, in a few years someone playing his first character, at lvl 21 unlocking 3 or 4 elite specs, that’s just silly, lvling teaches you the class, if you want to skip it you can always use lvl tomes.

Oh, nvm, brb buying gems

I do wish there was a way to make certain slots infinite tough, i’d pay 400 gems/slot alone just to make the ascended materials not fill up my bank :p

So, i’ve been playing this game for 3 years now, and i’m wondering, is there any reason that the material storage of your bank is capped at 250? And if so why can’t we upgrade it for gems? Seems like there is no reason for it, or am i wrong?

Just a quick thought.

Ohoni.6057:

If the lack of unique rewards mean that most of the game’s population gravitates towards a few specific activities, then that means that most of the game’s population finds those activities to be the most fun. Instead of trying to bribe players away from those activities, the appropriate reaction is to figure out how to make the other activities more fun for those players, so that they’ll actually WANT to do them, rather than just being WILLING to put up with them if it means getting the loot that they want.

I’m sorry, but this is really ignorant imo. In the same way you are “forced” to go into certain content for certain rewards, players farming for one of the many rediculously expensive items in this game are currently forced to do speedclears or silverwastes/drytop, and many don’t enjoy that either. But they do it because it is the only way to get to the rewards they want in a decent timeframe. They could be leveling new characters, since some people’s favorite content is just to make many different toons. But that content isn’t rewarding. So they have to choose between what they want and go for rewards. To say that the most played content is also the most enjoyed one is like saying everyone loves their job because that is what they do for the most time in their life. Silverwastes/drytop isn’t the most enjoyed content right now, it’s the most rewarding one. And that is exactly why people are drawn to it. I say different things to do having different rewards is fun, because it spreads your progress, keeping you engaged in different things for longer. If people play differnent aspects of the game, they don’t get bored or burned out so fast, wich is the entire system an mmo is build on. If you make one thing optimal, many people will burn themselves out doing just that one thing, even tough they could be doing many things. And while this may not be a problem for you, it is for A-Net.

What you are asking for is for Arenanet to give the players all the options and just hope they can handle it. As someone who would love GW2 to grow, and keep doing well for the next few years, i really hope they are not that stupid. Keep the exclusives.

You may argue that people simply going for rewards, and letting that guide them trough content, are idiots. Arenanet certainly can’t take the same stance. And here lies the problem, you think your ideas are gonna fix things, while they just are gonna make more people leave the game, in frustration of always doing the same thing. It doesn’t matter how you view them, they are still just as important as you.

And here is the reality of things, ask yourself the question, will more people be upset by a skin being a unique reward (while most mmo players come from games where unique stats and skins are rewarded for content, with powercreep rewarding for skill), or will more people be upset because in their eyes, (we both know different) they are forced into the same content day in day out? I would say the skin thing is a minority, and not having unique rewards and incentives, that would upset more people, and most people coming from other mmo’s wouldn’t even understand it.

Now you can keep going for what you want, no problem to it, but the company sure as hell isn’t going to listen to you, because it involves taking a giant leap of faith, that people will still play content even if it’s not an optimal to get rewards. And that is a leap of faith an mmo developper can never take. The time new content comes out isn’t the problem either, it’s times when there isn’t any new content. If pve people play something once and then go back to farming, their week when there is no new content will look like this: farm, farm, farm, farm, maybe a guildmission, farm more, farm some more. If different content has different rewards, all unique to the content, then their week looks like this: fractals, dungeon, raid, maguuma jungle events, silverwastes event, guild mission, fractals.
Forcing people into content may not be a perfect system, but it makes it so players have more things to do, keeping them in the game longer. As an mmo you really cannot afford to have a different approach.

Can’t read rules of bumping anywhere, doing it once a day, if that is to much let me know in a pm.

80 is fine, right now elite specs aren’t that confusing, but when you have 4 for each class, that is not something you want a lvl 21 player to worry about. Let players level in the normal class specs. Elite specs are something you want to contain into lvl 80.

Ohoni.6057:

We don’t need new currencies to serve as a conversion between two other currencies. And for the person I told it to, served as the best token for what they want: absolutely no unique rewards for anything.

We can’t use gold though. I mean, in theory it would be fine, but in actual practice, the GW2 gold economy is fundamentally broken. It’s like the Zimbabwe dollar at this point. It’s too flawed for them to attach additional usage to it, and there’s really no good way to fix that anymore. If they wanted to use gold as this token currency, then they should not have allowed players to buy gold with cash, nor to take gold, buy things, and then sell those things for more gold than they spent on them. Whatever token system they use, it can’t be something you can turn a profit with, it has to be a system where the only way to acquire the tokens is by game content, and the only place you can spend them is to NPCs with fixed prices and infinite supplies.

Your idea is an illusion. Are you gonna apply this retroactively? If not, then world completion can’t be a part of your new system, since some people have already completed the world on most of their characters, and i know that world completion is the main content some people in my guild like to do, so basicly you are excluding again(something you said you didn’t wanna do at all). If you do apply it retroactively, if that would even be possible, (what about deleted characters and so on) you will have a whole lot of people who have enough of this currency to directly buy rewards with it, directly. If you don’t, you directly punish some people for already having done most of the non-repeatable stuff and in a way you also punish the 4000 hours accounts over the 500 hours ones, since their past effort is measured differently now.

You can’t please everyone, no matter what. And there will always be an OPTIMAL way to do things, wich will result in the suboptimal ways being far less populated, no matter how fun they are. And since GW2 is a group game, not having enough people to play with does directly effect your experience of the game. Unique rewards give incentive to do different things, for the main population. Now don’t get me wrong, i personally don’t care, i want to be able to do all the content, that is what i care about, and having a certain optimal way to get all the rewards in the game, will drasticly effect the ammount of people i have to play with. Unique rewards, for all the different kinds of content we have in this game, is a system to keep players playing all kinds of different content, so that whoever wants to try that content, can always find a group/other people for it.

The grouping up of the personal story has resulted in it not being in tune with the dungeon story, Eir sais she has an idea to fix destiny’s edge at lvl 40 in the personal, while you help her fix that idea at lvl 30.

Defensive gear does give you more chances, it is working as intended, this gear isn’t supposed to make you ignore the boss abilities. Btw you are way overselling this, most classes in full zerker can afford one mistake in a bossfight. Most classes full tank can make 3-4 kittenups before going down.

Tonight is guild night, perfect time to join!

You can just travel to the 5 major cities with beta chars, to get 5 charges, then delete them, then do it over again, this is what the op means.

#firstworldproblems

Can you name an mmo that has this? I honestly can’t name one. The closest i can think of is the WoW trial arena where you get Bronze, Silver and Gold in either tanking, healing or dps. And then again that simulates group content and is fairly easy.
I think SAB in this game quite counted, but that was really unique. Giving it’s popularity i guess that may come back after HoT.(maybe a jungle version :p?)

Don’t get me wrong, i do like some challenging solo gameplay, but i’ve never looked for it in an mmo. I don’t see how anyone would tbh.

This is the same topic over again, they have had tons of pages in the last one. Whatever needs to be said has been said. There is no need to carry on this discussion. They have seen the last topic, and based on what was said there and on what the company wants, they made this descission.

I’m not saying there aren’t good arguments for and against this, but please, let’s not drag this down to a point where every new person who shares their opinion gets a verbal assault just because you disagree with them. It’s not because you have a certain opinion that you need to suddenly prove everyone that thinks a little different wrong.

I personally think this is a non-issue because, as with ascended gear, A-net will find other ways to intoduce legendary armor, not the same skin tough. As for skins, i don’t think it’s the end of the world. I don’t play certain content in the game right now, hence i can’t get those skins. I honestly don’t care.

Again, i understand if you feel different, but please, try to be civil. If you’ve posted on nearly every page of this topic, or the last one, take a break from them (no matter what side of the argument you are on). Your opinion has been noted. Nothing you post now is going to make a difference, but it is going to discourage other people from giving their honest opinion. I’m not saying you can’t discuss this, but there are limits…

I agree on the ram part, but i’ve been able to hold a point trough the night with just me and 2 other people holding it. Just engage the mobs before they enter and kill the ones that do first.

Could this topic be pinned? It seems like a good database and would be a shame to just go away.
(and i’m not asking just because i was on the first page… ok maybe a little but i do believe this is a good database for people looking for guilds.)

It’s been wonderfull having a few new people, but we are still looking!

Don’t forget 2 of the dungeons that were fairly important in the story are in fractals, how would you do that then?

Currently the LA one is the hardest because some jumps are really easy to miss due to unforseen glitching, or getting stuck. All the other puzzles i’m able to rush, winter wonderland and clocktower included, but this one in LA is hard to do because you get so much glitching.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hall_of_Monuments
It’s basicly where veteran GW1 players get their rewards from GW1.

They already stated this wouldn’t happen because monday is labor day for them aswell

TheBlackLeech.9360:

Fox.3469:

TheBlackLeech.9360:

Fernling.1729:

https://heartofthorns.guildwars2.com/game/maguuma

Thank you sir…
This doesn’t confirm or deny anything I’ve said so far though…

I still feel as if we may be receiving these other three maps later…. not part of the initial release but delivered through the course of Living World Episode 3.

Anet did say somewhere that they will be continuing the Living World after the Release of HoT…. and I mean we don’t even get to fight Mordremoth until the story is over.

“Buying HoT” is just a paywall between players and Living World Episode 3.

You will get one map in the Maguuma Jungle when HoT is released…. and you will get the others in bite sized pieces every two weeks as the living story progresses.

Seriously read that site, they are literly saying four maps, that doesn’t mean living story, that means at launch. I do not get how you can read something and then still try to deny it. Btw They also said that the current story would wrap up in the expansion.

I know you want to troll, but at least accept it when someone brings the facts into it. If you don’t like the expansion so be it, but this is being hatefull and intentionally misleading.

Do you honestly think I’m trying to be hateful or misleading?

How on earth do I get called an anet fanboy and an anet hater in the same thread?

Here are the facts:
I bought the expansion before I knew anything about it because of the hype train.
Now that the hype train has crashed, I have yet to see anything that would make me want to encourage others to buy the expansion, and I would not purchase the expansion today if I had not already purchased it in the past.
Anet has become rather adept at twisting words and leaving out details, and I would not trust what you think they are saying without reading between the lines.
Anything that could be considered a plus or a feature for HoT would be advertised…
…and anything that would be considered negative or a flaw in HoT will not be advertised…

Examples:
Anet – “The Maguuma Jungle will have 4 new maps.”

That could mean
A) We will get all 4 new maps in the jungle on release of HoT
B) We will get one new jungle map on release and will get the remaining maps over time.

Neither of which make the statement false.

But I ask you this…
Has anyone seen any of these other maps?
Does the one map we have seem anywhere close to finished?
Do you believe we will have three more maps, in equal size and quality to Verdant Brink, finished given the release date of HoT?

Anet never said anything about a Mordremoth encounter

That could mean
A) We will be able to fight Mordremoth on day 1 of the release of HoT, regardless of no mention.
B) Mordremoth won’t be defeated until a future Living Story episode is released.

Both are possible….

But I want you to know…
Since Anet never said anything about a Mordremoth encounter, they are likely hiding the fact that we won’t get to fight him till later, otherwise they would be advertising it.

You are denying 2 things that have been stated in interviews by Arenanet to be fact. They did confirm our current storyline will come to a conclusion in HoT, whatever conclusion that is, of course they aren’t gonna tell you the specifics, but the entire mordrem jungle story line will be completed.
They also stated multiple times that there will be multiple maps at release, and colin uses the words “as players venture trough these maps” all the time when talking about the expansion + you have the official website listing it as a feature or heart of thorns + they confirmed “not all maps in the expansion will have 3 layers”, clearly showing multiple maps will be in there+4 maps have already been found in datamining + it’s on the official GW2 wiki+they clearly stated they are only showing us verdant brink to not spoil everything.

Plz stop making stuff up just to have an oppertunity to be negative. Start from the facts. This site https://heartofthorns.guildwars2.com/game/#maguuma is factual info on what will be there on release. If it isn’t there on release, like raids, wich will be added a few weeks into the expansion. It is specificly mentioned in the blog post. Also note that the living world season 3 is NOT listed as a feature here, since it’s not there on launch.

Stop trolling, if you don’t like the game, don’t play, but do not feed lies into the playersbase that is asking for honest information. There are plenty of people here able to build a reasonable argument towards the OP, both positive and negative, without making stuff up.

Oh and btw i hope you learned your lesson about pre-purchasing something blindly, that is your fault and your fault alone. I pre-purchased because i have faith in the developper, wich has given me over 10 years of awesome gameplay in both GW1 and GW2, if you don’t then you should not pre-purchase until you have all the info you need, and make an informed decision

TheBlackLeech.9360:

Fernling.1729:

https://heartofthorns.guildwars2.com/game/maguuma

Thank you sir…
This doesn’t confirm or deny anything I’ve said so far though…

I still feel as if we may be receiving these other three maps later…. not part of the initial release but delivered through the course of Living World Episode 3.

Anet did say somewhere that they will be continuing the Living World after the Release of HoT…. and I mean we don’t even get to fight Mordremoth until the story is over.

“Buying HoT” is just a paywall between players and Living World Episode 3.

You will get one map in the Maguuma Jungle when HoT is released…. and you will get the others in bite sized pieces every two weeks as the living story progresses.

Seriously read that site, they are literly saying four maps, that doesn’t mean living story, that means at launch. I do not get how you can read something and then still try to deny it. Btw They also said that the current story would wrap up in the expansion.

I know you want to troll, but at least accept it when someone brings the facts into it. If you don’t like the expansion so be it, but this is being hatefull and intentionally misleading.

Plz don’t let anyone fool you, this expansion is worth it. Just look at the beta footage of streamer, like woodenpotatoes, and you can make your own opinion. Some people will never be satisfied doesn’t mean you have to pass on this gem.

I agree, the worst thing is that when you build these camps at rally points up to high level, when day breaks, they just get destroyed. I like the idea of night and day, but night isn’t working for me atm. Feels boring and needs chains.

Still recruiting, contact me!

Hey there,

While living world is story based, it does have achievements and rewards, and it often comes with events. The quality of the story has been going up all trough the releases of this content. It is included in HoT if you log in while it is live. That means just one log in while the event is going on and you’ll be able to play it whenever you want.

It’s a fairly common opinion at least season 2 is far better storytelling then the core game.

I don’t think that’s possible. Season one was fairly different and had more events and dungeons and allot of open world and so forth. The season one story was not told in the same way and i fear it won’t come back, srry :/

2 of the story dungeons are in fractals now tough

Yes, you can only created one during the BWE

If the rev gets a headstart it should be 3 days before launch. This is an entire new class, we need as much 80 testing as possible.

Gaile Gray.6029:

This is not a preview, early start, or sneak peek. It’s a test. <— said in my Admiral Akbar voice, and if you get the reference, kudos to you!

This thread tough, “It’s a trap!”

I don’t see how the eu times would be a slap in the face, i think they are perfect, i get 3 evenings of beta play, and 2 full weekend days.

So basicly you are saying change this entire class to my idea with only 50 days left till launch. I mean no offense but that’s pretty ignorant, give feedback they can use, you know, on the class, not on what you think the class should be.

I don’t think there should be tbh, maybe an achievement for havin all gear on a toon ascended, and then when it’s possible one for having all gear on a toon legendary.

All i can say is, i’m meating allot of new people, and i’m making new friends.

While i’m going to get my legendary armor trough raids, i do agree with some people here that that shouldn’t be the only way. The skin should be unique to raids, however i do think there should be other ways, especially for pvp and WvW players.

Awesome, these posts on the GW2 looking for forum have even returned an old GW1 member to us who didn’t know our guild was still going!

Arcadio.6875:

A certain user is not going to be happy lol.

I think i know who you mean :p

I’ve put a dutch explanation in spoilers for clarity.

People need to realise the difference between balancing a more standard mmo combat system(gw1) and an action based combat system (gw2). The GW1 system would not work with GW2.

I guess they’ll just put a specific team onto it, since they’ve been actively recruiting people to design them in their job openings. GW2 can be the same game with raids just added along the living world.

Hey, i hope it’s ok to make my post in Dutch, since i’m recruiting for Lovers of Whisky and Women[LWW], a Dutch 18+ guild founded in GW1 beta. We are looking for some people to fill the ranks going onto heart of thornes. All level of players are welcome, including F2P, as long as you play on EU servers.

I’ve included the dutch extended explanation in spoiler tags.

I will never forget the day fall traits were accidently overtuned. Jumping onto zergs in Wvw, even with small groups, destroyed them that day.

They can whisper to anyone in the same map then them, so they can react to map chat with a whisper.

maddoctor.2738:

MikaHR.1978:

maddoctor.2738:

Inverse.2967:

By the way the data cited from MMO-Champ earlier is based off of only
“The data used today is a sample made up of 7.3 million characters from 2.3 million accounts, with at least one character active after March 15. The sample is slightly biased, as players who are not in a guild are much less likely to appear in our sample.
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So this picture is only a subset, we have no idea how representative this subset is for the overall population at that time of the product, only Blizz knows.
The hard fact that was given by Blizz was after the original Vanilla Naxxramas, where they stated just a very very tiny fraction of customers had ever seen that stuff from the inside at that time and the investment was a waste from a budgetary point of view.
Which is pretty much the reason why it re-appeared in Wrath later on to make something of that dev time spent.

2.3 million accounts out of 10 million accounts is a very good sample slightly biased or not. I never said the data is completely accurate but it’s not the 5% that other players are saying. Maybe it’s not 70% but it is a very high and actually significant percentage of the population.

70% of the 2.3 mil sample is 1610000 accounts raiding. Even if those are the ONLY raiders (which is false) it’s still a 16.1% of the total population. Even that 16% is no insignificant number

Its not good since its not representative, its selected.

And GW2 already has LFR – meta events. before select revamps. Or heck, ANY “zerg” event

ANet is NOT speaking about LFR, on contrary the made sure to get messge out that its CHALLENGING

I’m not a WoW veteran but I thought LFR are instanced and not “come when you want, leave when you want, afk in the middle, spam auto attacks and still get max rewards” kind of content like the meta events.

LFR is exactly that, some people even afk at times, it doesn’t matter. Failing looking for raid is nearly impossible. It is instanced but people join leave all the time, noone knows the tactics, bosses die anyway.

So yeah, we basicly have LFR in this game already, it’s basicly silverwastes.

Conclusion of this topic: Raiding only benefits people that want to raid.
What a shocker. Let’s take dungeons, fractals, wvw and pvp out of the game because that only benefits people who want to do those things. Let’s take silverwastes out of the game cause that only benefits people who like that.

Of course raiding only benefits raiders. But there is enough to do in the expansion, do something else if you don’t like it.

Seera.5916:

Fox.3469:

I literly just lvled leatherworking 0-500 in 10 minutes.

He said it’s not the time it takes. He just doesn’t like crafting. And was wondering if raids required gear that is primarily earned through crafting if he didn’t want to rely on RNG. So that he was better informed on whether HoT was a good purchase for him or not.

Yeah and sometimes you gotta do something you don’t like in mmo’s, that is just the nature of this massive online experience, at least it takes minutes here, not hours, days or months

I literly just lvled leatherworking 0-500 in 10 minutes.

Honestly, i prefer this game to Wow in every aspect but raiding, that is the 1 thing where GW2 could learn a bit from them. Not talking about the trinity, or armor creep, but actual boss mechanics.

Nothing i’ve played has ever come close to it raid wise. I hope GW2 at least comes close to the level where wow raids are at atm. So i can have this fun experience called raiding in a game that doesn’t suck in every other way.

Plz don’t hate me :p

PopeUrban.2578:

Don’t you dare ruin this for me.

Jeez.

I find your name to be very funny in relation to this thread’s topic. :p