Venoms only trigger on damage yes.
Like the one above me pointed out with steal, shadow shot (the unblockable projectile part) doesn’t do any damage and won’t trigger basilisk.
The only weird part is
Moreover, why don’t I shadowstep to my target when I hit them with Shadow Shot?
You can craft/buy a legendary and give it to a not-lvl 80 character
Where is the fow/vabbi alliance from the past? Also, it’s sad to see WSR fall down to rank 26.. Hope you guys get out sometime, enjoyed dueling some of your players.
So in other words, when you see a thief activating D-storm, you’re supposed to just run away? I can see a thief guild go full d-storm against a zerg now..
Imo anyone using a computer that is better than Windows XP Service Pack 2 should be banned. ‘Cause they clearly have an advantage over those that only have windows XP service pack 2 (minimum requirement for gw2). It’s just not fair.
How do you beat the Pirate Crew? I cannot seem to stay alive for more than a few seconds after I defeat the first one. I try to kill Stitches first.
Go for the two melee ppl first using shortbow (disabling shot to gain distance, and some dodges if you reach edge of the dome), first the thief (first mate) and then the captain
Once they are dead, switch to melee (i went for D/P) and kill stitch first and then the gunner.
Didn’t rly pose a big difficulty for me
Ooze achievement: I just went full zerk traits and utilities (thieves guild, ambush, assassin’s signet and haste) and went D/D. Just bursted him as fast as possible (ambush, thieves guild and your D/D setup all only hit 1 person, sub-7)
So in other words, when you see a thief activating D-storm, you’re supposed to just run away? I can see a thief guild go full d-storm against a zerg now..
To hickeroar, permanent revealed debuff enemies are still blindable.
If you have trouble with the first fight (pirates): Use shortbow and a D/P or D/D. Withdraw as healing skill
Kill the two melee ppl first (the thief first, then captain) and then go for healer and then for the pistoleer. Focus on using shortbow at start so the melee enemies can’t poison you or w/e. After that you can switch to D/P or D/D to quickly kill the remaining two (no use taking sword since the enemies fully heal up after one of them dies)
Second stealth guy is deadeye I think. Scorpion wire and D/P is all you rly need.
And maybe executioner (30 in critical strikes). Start by going in the mid with steal or #3. When he teleports use SW. When he teleports again use #3. You got two more utilities you can choose so pick some skills that help you kill him faster (in term of dmg)
Deadeye (with criple and no dodge gambit) is beatable in 17.23 seconds … At least that’s my current record.
D/P makes it easy game: BP – steal and start auto attacking
Use scorpion wire on first teleport (autoattacking again)
Use Shadow shot for second teleport
(If needed: use shadowstep to mid and shadowshot again for third teleport, but if you can kill him in less than 25 seconds there is no need for this tactic)
Ps: for the 17 seconds record I also use thieves guild and ambush.
sword pistol + quick recovery
Lure camp, go behind a corner
Cast blackpowder, auto attack
Repeat
Dead camp
(PS: Problems may occur with this tactic when the camp is reinforced with quaggans or upgrades because more than 5 enemies would bypass the blackpowder slightly
PPS: Righteous indignation on supervisor bypasses blackpowder)
For pvp: Was good even before the buffs.
For pve and wvw signet and warbanner might be better
If you’re capturing in pvp (with the lifereg builds it’s possible to survive a good long time) you can use rampage to keep an enemy off base long enough to capture it and bunker it afterwards.
I just tried my own regen build and was looking on forums to see what stat healing signet scales with
1) 15 points in Defense (adrenal health)
2) Dogged march (regeneration)
3) Healing signet
4) Dolyak runes
Works great imo, also with my current way of utilities and traits, i’m still capable of dealing damage that could live someone. Only problem stays conditions though, I have some ways of dealing it shortly, but I can’t survive a long fight with heavy conditions.
I don’t get why ppl say they run a set .. without saying the second set.
Your second set is just as important as your first set. I run a S/P besides my D/P for multiple targets and when I need to stunlock the enemy myself (like your first enemy).
Warriors: A S/P or S/D setup could stunlock the warrior more than the warrior can stunlock you.
Also, bp does work, but you’re suppose to cast it when standing right on top of him. He has to back out of the field and swing once to get rid of blindness (while you are hitting him). This said, I don’t use bp a lot myself besides when I setup a stealth for backstab or for a blind-stomp.
I usually switch to D/P once the foe drops low enough for me to start my real burst with a low risk of him surviving.
Ranger: Again I prefer using my S/P setup ‘till the ranger loses his spirits. Spirits tend to stay in melee combat of the ranger (if he uses the “spirits move with the ranger” trait thing) so just target the ranger and you’ll hit 2 of the 3 spirits with him. They aren’t the worst enemies you see, but they are okay.
Mesmers: Stun the cast, kill the phantasm before others are up (preferable while hitting the mesmer along). Not much I can say about them since I’m not very good against them either. It’s mostly a 1/2 chance of winning or losing when I play against them unless they run zerk.
What can S/P do that D/P and shortbow can’t.
Cheap shadowsteps with cleanse
Higher aa than shortbow while staying in melee
Stun (instead of daze)
With high ini regen you can keep on PW stun someone, which not only interrupt him but also stops movement. When playing 2v2 (with focus fire) this means a free shot for your buddy. Also interrupts ppl who are trying to revive (even while in stealth) while dealing dmg to both.
Also, while the enemy is stunned, he can’t attack you back (unless with retal). So unlike just cleaving with AA, you aren’t receiving dmg from that particular person even before the evade part kicks in. You don’t need a still standing target to get pw to hit. Well timed shadowsteps or infiltrator’s strike before pw ensures a hit.
Imo most ppl here doesn’t seem to make a difference between stun and daze. There’s a huge difference between being able to stop a person from moving entirely compared to just locking down his skills temporarily.
Lol, I just went down every profession just to see if you posted this everywhere. Cba answering on the question right now though. (too much thinking, head hurts)
I run D/P and S/P setup in wvw
S/P is a great weapon in team to keep a foe stunned/immobilized, switch to D/P when he hits 30-40% to finish him.
S/P does rely on you learning not to depend on stealth (same with P/P I guess, but P/P is even harder because the setup is crap right now) and this is entirely different from what thieves usually play
Mace offhand has the highest burst with a close range Tremor, which for me usually hits 1.6k x2 on crits while rip does about 2k ish. The defensive difference of offhand sword with shield and warhorn are leagues apart. You only get 1 block with the sword untraited and on a 15s cd, wh gives you nearly 50% dmg reduction and shield stance give 3s of unlimited blocks.
If you’re playing against a ranged person, the sword gives you unlimited blocks for a few seconds (2? can’t remember how much) But yeah, I prefer other offhands over sword
Original skill stacked bleeding the longer you let the sword stick into his body if I’m not wrong. Started from 1 stack bleeding instead of the current 2 stacks torment
You can use heartseeker 3 times through the bp field, with luck 4 times.
Going for 3 or 4 times through 1 field gives you more initiatives back to keep up the initiative pool.
So you’re roaming and encounter an outnumbered situation and decide to engage, do you have a priority list of who to go for first? Say this group is consisting of a warrior, elementalist, and a mesmer, even if all 3 are upleveled, you have no way of knowing just what level they are, what their build is, and what gear they may have already. this group could consist of any variation of classes so was just wondering what your general approach and strategy to a situation like this would be.
Being upleveled I’d be biased to think none of them really mastered the profession yet (this ofc could be wrong since one could have played pvp with the class a lot before starting to level him properly).
Imo being able to play a class to a decent enough level to help your group depends on what class you’re playing. And thus I’d assume two things:
1) they are the same level (which makes step 2 processing easier)
2) that the ele would be the most competent in the group. After that the mesmer and then the warrior.
Ofc any fights 1v3 with lacking knowledge about (read underestimating) your opponent could end badly on your side and it also depends on what build you run. My current build works better in small groups than in 1vX situations, so I’d avoid these fights no matter what.
It was mentioned to put a cast time on the return ..
But how would a cast-time work when stunned… (and when it doesn’t work, why is it a stunbreaker?)
The trap should be imo, an instant teleport when triggered (and stunbreaking) but just a normal shadowstep when not triggered. Right now this skill is, if we ignore the obstacle problem, kitten good to escape nasty situations.
I personally started to play warrior in pvp, and i’m actually surprised that they can do well. I don’t run the usual greatsword or hammer though. Axe/shield (normal) and mace/sword. The 2nd setup gives you a LOT of block against ranged attacks (because it doesn’t cancel on a ranged attack) while punishes melee setups. Combined with 2 interrupts and a third on the first setup, possible more in the utilities and Surprise surprise rampage works nice in defending/capturing a shrine so long the enemy doesn’t use stability.
we only need see dmg what they taking when they use stealth
You can see it, ppl just don’t know where to look.
Open a new chat log with only combat information in it. When a thief stealths, you can use the log to detect whenever you are connecting.
I know, that’s why I said you’ll need one of the two optionals :P But you can choose between the two.
The utilities aren’t needed but can help a lot. I forgot some though, gonna edit it.
To everyone who talks about removing/splitting servers
Remember we play a three-server war. You don’t talk about removing a server, you talk about removing 3 servers. Please refrain from making arguments that rely on removing an amount of servers not equal to an x times 3…
When x=2/3, then x times 3 makes 2^^ /troll
I don’t know who you are. I don’t know what you want. But I will look for you, I will find you… and I will kill you.
… :P
Last refuge is a fine trait; you just need to learn to watch your health. It definitely has saved me more than hurt.
Same for me, when i’m down to 30% I don’t waste time using c&d. I use my healing (or when in danger of interruption blind powder). If anyone hits you while stealthed you’ll proc last refuge, giving you an even longer stealth.
True I’ve been killed by the trait a few times (like when I was using any attacks besides auto attack while the trait procs, taking away precious time for my follow up stealth/backstab) but it has saved me more.
Also, last refuge has often saved enemy thieves from me rly.. I sometimes make the mistake to falsely assume I downed him, and start swinging around finding his body, when suddenly I get backstabbed, changed the tables a few times.
To everyone who talks about removing/splitting servers
Remember we play a three-server war. You don’t talk about removing a server, you talk about removing 3 servers. Please refrain from making arguments that rely on removing an amount of servers not equal to an x times 3…
We’re complaining because just 3 weeks ago we beat the ever living snot outta both of you, and in fact we set the new server score record while doing it.
In the mean time we’ve been rolled over by far larger servers who gave us no quarter either, but we held our ground and gained server points each week. We played hard and deserve a whole lot more than being tossed into the trash can tier yet freaking again.
Anet should simply close Vabbi and FoW, or at least remove the 2 servers from the WvW rotation. You can’t beat anybody. You simply don’t have the population to be competitive and getting pulled down to the trash can tier is disrupting the game for your opponents. Last night a large number of RoF players rage quit the game when they saw the match up, which is why you didn’t do so bad, at least for a few hours.
Honestly. Go away. Find another server. Close Vabbi and FoW!
If Anet would listen to your demand they would need to delete 3 servers. So atm they have to delete RoF also because you are in T9 and that means that you are sooo weak.
You have to look at the rank, not at the tier. We went into T9 because of randomization. Rank-wise, the third server to be deleted would be whiteside ridge
Yeah, stone =? stun is open for debate, but like I said, it’s a possible explanation.
And that’s what I’m stating too Parktou. Since it’s not under the list of conditions summed in the trait, it might explain why you don’t shadowstep away.
The extra thing I added was to make the difference between the trait and why “shadowstep” the utility does work on basilisk. It shadowsteps AND stunbreaks at the same time. Just added it in case someone pulled it as an example.
A possible explanation would be that “Hard to catch” just shadowsteps you on stun (or any other CC), it isn’t a stunbreaker. Basilisk venom casts a stone duration, not any of the CC listed. So it prevents you from moving from that spot unless using a stunbreaker.
Shadowstep nullifies basilisk because of the stunbreaker on it.
Would be fitting that an elite can’t be negated so easily ..
Edit: The extra thing I added was to make the difference between the trait and why “shadowstep” the utility does work on basilisk. It shadowsteps AND stunbreaks at the same time. Just added it in case someone pulled it as an example.
Also you should send everyone out to find and follow a target before starting the mission so if its that target you can WP next to it
This is a bad idea and wastes a lot of time.
It wastes a lot of time, but it’s efficient. If you lack the players to locate the targets quickly you’ll probably lose the mission. (T1 is do-able without it, T3 is a bit harder)
They are trophies. Guards are human beings too (not really). They defend their camp fiercely against critters (skritts, centaurs, other players) and take trophies now and then… (Or something like that)
Switch out to S/P setup
Go stand around a corner and lure your enemies
Cast black powder and cleave, cleave, cleave!
There you go, a dead camp.
(This is slightly harder if there are npc support (hyleks, ogres) or when the camp is fully upgraded. Hyleks and ogres make that there are more than 5 players, hence you’ll get some damage despite blindness. Fully upgraded camp is not a problem in killing but in the npc respawning)
So camp’s difficulty is very situation dependant. But I mostly just attack camps 4 minutes after they got capped … Don’t let those enemies gain supply/points!
It was fun having you lads around VcY. Hope you enjoyed your vacation, almost time for you guys to be serious again. I enjoyed reading your “serious” posts.
Scepter autoattack could’ve been reflected but wouldn’t explain two clones at once.
There are reports of scepter 1 spawning 2 clones actually.
I can confirm this, mesmer scepter auto attacks create two clones.
Ah, didn’t know that. I’m only lvl 30 mesmer right now, haven’t had it before. I assume it’s a bug?
But on topic it means he prolly reflected a bugged 3rd auto attack then I guess
-no one uses infiltrators signet, esp not in a burst build (you wouldn’t get ANYTHING from it unless the fight is >10s long that you wouldn’t get with shadowstep)
Infiltrator’s signet was on my utility bar pre-patch constantly. The passive buff is usefull in longer fights (fighting more than 1 person) and the gapcloser can be used for chasing down enemies or running away from enemies (poor bunny) without wasting the precious shadowstep or initiatives.
Also, it’s sad to see WSR fall down to rank 26.. Hope you guys get out sometime, enjoyed dueling some of your players.