“berserker stance clears all CC on you and you’re still immune to CC for 8 seconds”
-Excalibur.9748
yes, lets give warrior AI companions too since everyother class has it
I dont know about engis, dont play them nor ever seen them.
Engy can use a single Adept Major trait to get perma swiftness. They don’t have much of anything else that helps them move faster, but 100% uptime is 100% uptime, which is a hell of a lot better than what Mesmer gets.
100% uptime if you run kits, which pretty much negates all elixir builds, turret builds and gadget builds. Because thats the requirement on that trait- that you are wearing a kit for the movement speed increase.
So, 100% uptime for only a percentage of the population? Awesome.
wth? all you need to do is change a single utility and a trait when you run thats all.
as a human main warrior with asura and norn warrior and played as a charr warrior during fractal
ill tell you that best race for warrior are asura norn sylvari(sylvari for its amazing design bad kitten looking and their T3) or charr if you like animals. playing as a medium size human is just frustrating and feels weak.
asura for amazing bad kitten looking powerful fast paced movements, norn and charr obviously for their huge body and swinging huge swords.
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the top 300 players told anet that focus pull had no reaction time, needed nerf, so that’s what you got.
cool that anet actually listened the top 300 players like you wanted yet you still complaint.
I have an idea, allow food in pvp, and charge them with gold, so not everyone has it, just like in wvw.
yes, they think that this game have enough diverse build now.
You just realised it now? i have been running healing signet shaman dual sword lb condi, but too bad it doesnt help the team to win. now im full on lockdown
Does the leaderboard give you any bonus/item ? Why does people care so much about it lol… Just enjoy tpvp/spvp
totally, if you see some one robbing other people on the street, who cares, just enjoy life, its not like you are going to get bonus items for helping. btw it does give you a title
that before last phrase..reminds me of those youtube hero hackers of COD4 promod and CS and all their fanboys who defend them.
I would argue thakittens the condi+raw damage that makes them an interesting/alternative/workable choice. No other condi class brings the combination.
is that they dont bring enough
You mean a bunker support warrior and a bunker guardian who only does mace 1 can`t kill a pure bunker warrior? yea man my bunker war can let another bunker hit me all day long and never go down. totally op bunker able.
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thats not what happenes to warrior so you are wrong
chill, cripple, poison, burn, torment, immobilize, fear, blind, weakness, bleed with huge aoe from far(if you do count those blind or support conditions as a part of condition build which every other build have and spam able, ok). and Feast of Corruption.
What you say is true, but does not make what condi warriors bring ineffective+their burst raw damage capacity.
what you say is also true, but its not what condi war bring is ineffective, is that they dont bring enough+high end pvp is not just about burst raw damage
chill, cripple, poison, burn, torment, immobilize, fear, blind, weakness, bleed with huge aoe from far(if you do count those blind or support conditions as a part of condition build which every other build have and spam able, ok). and Feast of Corruption.
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A necro that wastes all three (yes, three, not four) of his fears on defense will not have them for offense, and vice versa.
Also, DS, lol. 60% extra HP with a utility-less skill bar. Remember the part about necro not having vigor, blocks, invulnerability, evades, etc?
60% is now 100% if you didnt know
He’s probably thinking of the trait that aoe fears when CC’d, which you can’t get on a Dhuumfire build.
So, he’s full of crap.
Necro is very easily killable by 1 class. Thief, warrior, dd ele can still train him to the ground. Phantasm mesmer can do so as well.
you mean the one trait that fear people when you get CCed? i have it on my dhuumfire build…
Well I am not too upset about Kiel winning. The Fall of Abaddon would/should have been an epic instance and we all know about Anet’s idea of an epic end boss fight.
However, like others have mentioned, I am perplexed as to why she won. Several reasons that I believe why people voted for Kiel:
1) They like Kiel
2) They hate Evon/merchants/charr
3) Cheaper waypoints
4) Asura Reactor (not very likely though)1) Shes attractive and a good person – Fights the good fight!
2) Hes a scum bag merchant and a Charr also runs the Trading post which is a huge Scam and most bar gold flippers hate it as there is not Alternative.
3) Cheaper waypoints help all, Cheaper Keys only help RNG and the rich.
4) The Reactor is something many wanted to see (many Asura players) as much as Abaddon, well more as it won.
look, an ignorant person who didn’t know Evon the hero charr who protected LA from his warband. and voted for the next trehaene who take all the credits from you for the fights against sky pirates. Also a person cheap enough to vote for saving a few coppers and ignore the chance to fight against gods, yet he name himself Dante.
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thats it, one more team with lv10 and enemy team all 35+ i quit pvp.
When you begin to see 5 rangers teams, you SHOULD think there is a problem with the meta. Just sayin’ …
I’ve seen 5 Thief Teams, 5 Mesmer Teams (go team Mesmer), 5 Necro Teams, 5 Guardian Teams… and they all stomped people… This is not a reflection of “the meta”.
Spirit Rangers are good. But the way you are whining about them is stupid and unjustifiable. I’m hard pressed to think that you are a good player.
ever see a 5 warrior team stomp a team of necro, engi, ranger,mesmer in soloq?
look, warriors have one of their best build nerfed to the ground and its still one of the builds thats most used. gg
Contrary to popular belief, Warriors are in a pretty good spot.
the belief just got destroyed during PAX, ok
impossibrule
15!
You should have thought about that when you decided to Rank up through hotjoins
but but meng, i only ranked up in tpvp as a yoloq er ;(
cause mmr breh doesnt take into account ranking and you are so bad your rating belongs with rank 10s.
but but meng, enemiez shud be lv10 too
Why do i keep getting teamed with lv10 while the enemy team is all 30 40+
Warrior is da new meta. Nn engi any more. You enemy run necro, just bring the war. The difference is you would also need a nec and ranger in your team:-D
Main problem of the ranger since half a year this class deals way too much dmg for his bunker abilities. And spirit ranger are so stupid easy to play…. but atm the warri brings huge cc support to take the enemys necro complete out of the game.
only if they dont target you while the enemy necro dont hide in the background and the necro dont know how to use F1
yes, even teamq is more reasonable to have it than soloq
its all about rng and get luck to have classes who run fear push back launch build.
Get better at the map.
Thanks,
Player who enjoys map variety.Sure, go enjoy yours in them hotjoin, because this map is not for competitive play.
Just get better at the map instead of whining.
yea, i whine is totally because im not good at the map, ok, good day.
Get better at the map.
Thanks,
Player who enjoys map variety.
Sure, go enjoy yours in them hotjoin, because this map is not for competitive play.
thanks anet
15char
awesome, thanks!
i see people talking about it, about it being everyone is still unranked on it and stuff.
but where is it.
when the giant uses his mace to hit the target, its already dead for like 2 seconds or more…
this thread need to have a red icon. warrior is definitely the better class made by anet.
Animation wise they might be ^^
Besides that: I find myself agreeing with mr.Helseth. In a game without castbars it’s crucial that very clear visual animations are present.
not just animation wise,k
is the soloq leaderboard implanted?i cant seem to find it
this thread need to have a red icon. warrior is definitely the better class made by anet.
this game is like a huge beta, so they dont need any test server.
every time in the state of the game interview, dev will say something like
“we release a fix, then we will see what you guys doing with it(then we will try to fix it again)”
they are definitely using us to beta test.
I’m not saying stunlock, unlimited healing warriors are OP but when every single class has to change traits and runes just to counter one class, it becomes OP.
(not replying to anything replying to this post, warriors are impossible to argue with)
once again we see how ignorant are these complainers. thanks for the fun. oh btw you don`t see good players complaining, why? you guessed it.
man i still recall that my ranger outhealing 30 men underlevels at once, so pro.
burst ele are amazing as well
amazing to blow everything you have just to see opponents do a rnd evade or rezz and then you are freekill since ele disengages and heals are overnerfed. Overall dmg is below average and so is the surviveability
that’s why we teamed up..
I think what people are forgetting here is that this game isn’t balanced around 1v1, especially in WvW. Mace/Shield + Greatsword is a very strong 1v1 build, and maybe a decent small skirmish build, that is about it. Skull Crack only stuns ONE person for 3 seconds, in a bigger fight this is not even as close to as effective as in a 1v1 duel. Which again, this game isn’t balanced around.
This build has no range, little to no AoE, limited in-combat mobility. It is purely a burst build, if they don’t hit you in 130 range they can’t damage you. We have no teleports, no stealth, no protection, most of the time no vigor, easily telegraphed and predictable skills. We can be kited.
If people continuously use food as an excuse for a build being OP, then maybe (just possibly, maybe) its a problem with the food and not the build. And in my opinion, the foods that give +40% condition duration, -40% condition duration is a little bit much. Possibly toning it down to 20% would make it more in line with other foods.
What bothers me is just because somebody matches up badly against this type of build, they assume and call it OP.
Warriors match up very badly against Mesmers, are Mesmers OP? Before they might of been but not really anymore, but still a bad matchup. I got completely smoked by a Spirit Ranger on my condition-based warrior, are Spirit Rangers OP? An S/D thief killed a mesmer, are they OP? What people don’t realize or don’t want to realize is that it is a rock, paper, scissors type match up. One build might be effective against another but be completely crap against another. People just need to stop throwing fits because they can’t beat every single build with their one “super OP” build that destroys all.
Believe it or not, if you spec in condition duration on a condition heavy class. Conditions are a counter to this build. If you can manage to wait out Berserker’s Stance, chill, cripple and immobilize them, they won’t be able to touch you. This build typically does not carry any reliable condition removal. Which is why I run a condition based Warrior in WvW.
Guess what, for a very long time, every class was OP against a warrior.
I can see Healing Signet being nerfed by at least 50 HPS and the Mace Stun by at least half a second. Sad but ANet does cater to trolls who whine and complain more than actually bring up a decent point.
And again …
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bowl_of_Roasted_Lotus_Root
This is your best friend against Warriors. IF you are still complaining about 2 second stuns which is what Skull Crack is reduced to with this food, then IDK what to say, maybe you should take a good look at your skill level and build. A 2 second stun is roughly equivalent to 50 blades (half 100 blades).
Its funny that people use food to justify nerfing a build when there is literally foods that can counter all sorts of builds.
I wonder how many of these trolls have actually tried to use this food against Mace Warriors. Or even use Melandru runes.
well said, well said, my friend.
being a team player who look at overall map, use communication tool and know where to go is the true road to winning in SoloQ.
also some times there’s some one who like to command other people in the every wrong direction, you have to figure it out if its right to follow his command or not.
and depends on situation, some times even tho the command might be right, you need to look at your team, if no one is responding, then you better keep doing your thing as well…
sure there will be mismatch with lv1s, but it only happens once a while.
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Car Crash waves to you with their 2 Eles
You’re right though the high skill floor on those builds being more effective than risk/reward is terrible for the game
burst ele are amazing as well, teamed up with one with my dual sword lb condi war during soloq. he just burst down everything i immobed in seconds, it was epic.
i actually like condition war -.-…..well its still out of the meta like always anyway.
evade( i mean you even have them on your weapon),push back, knock down, immo trap, and you have like one of the longest stability. they dont hit kitten when you are not stunned.
you want to get healing surge or mending if you are going zerker
Because now opportunist is so much better
Good to know every build can keep 100% uptime on all those. It’s not like you can’t stun for 4s out of every 7 (every 10 I guess if you switch to GS for 100B). And aren’t you running Lemongrass with crazy GS mobility? That eliminates about half those.
why do wvwers always bring up that totally unbalanced game type in front of a pvp balacne discussion.
In exchange it doesn’t burst.
If you are seriously comparing condi burst to a 16-20 might backstab with signet popped or a full shatter>blurred frenzy or a burning speed>firegrab>arcane utilities or scepter burst, then I pity you.
but….condition build burst with conditions…sure its fine, but necros
6-7 seconds to do significant damage is not burst. When you can immediately take out half of someone’s health in 2-3 button presses then you can compare it to D/P or mesmer or warrior burst.
Bunker condi classes exist because if you are glass and not a mesmer or thief you get eaten alive by mesmers and thieves.
When an engineer can run a burst build or a ranger can use a longbow/gs burst build without being free food to mesmers and thieves and warriors and eles and prety much anything, then you’ll see less condi bunker builds.
But if you’re something outside mesmer/thief, chances are if you don’t build condi bunker you will die a lot without accomplishing much.
ive been bursted by necros more then half of my hp in seconds with condition when i was a zerker..
but sure i agree with you, because now im a condi bunker war, because you know..the new meta…and when i said “sure its fine” i do mean it if you didnt know.
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If anyone here plays guilty gears, Warriors are the Sol Badguy of GW2 now.
anyway, Warriors have gotten better and better every patch, but other classes have gotten nerfed hard. Rangers and Guardians have no reason to complain, they are also on the side of smiles. Mesmers are becoming COMPLETELY worthless in both WVW and PVP. I see this Daec fellow (Sorry forgot your entire name) bashing thieves and such and saying we/they need to learn how to play. Let me explain something to you.
Thief class has been nerfed extremely bad. We have exactly two ways to play. Dagger/Pistol with constant stealth and back stabs, or sword/dagger with evades and much less damage. Warriors regen so much now that we cant use our pistol or shortbow against you, its literally a waste of time if we go the sword/dagger build. So now we go back to dagger/pistol which is effective against most every class, but now we all have to run it and a lot of us dont want too. Stealth isnt as amazing as you think it is. We get maybe 3 seconds of stealth unless we use shadow refuge, and using a Dagger/Pistol build we have low hp and low armor. Using Shadow Refuge we’re trapped for about 3 seconds in a circle and we almost always get hit, and a lot of the times die in their and you dont even know it. Any Hammer or Stunlock warrior with patience can completely own us. How do we beat a warrior? With sword/pistol and constant blinds. Thats our real way out, but it sucks against almost every other class so walking around with it is a kitten . You can say whatever you want it doesnt really matter because you seem to know better than everyone else, but before coming at thieves go play one vs a decent warrior now and see how horrible it is. Better yet, pick up Mesmer and fight a warrior. Its a good laugh
what makes you think that warrior have not getting nerf. if you ask me, healings are not buff, but fix, because you should totally use your low damage shortbow and kill them easily right? and our damage have being directly and indrectily nerfed by alot.
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your comment is pretty funny because you were talking about pure damage and how warrior is doing too much damage compare to everyone else, cof1 is like one of the closest thing if you are talking about pure damage. i don’t even know why would you comment that, i mean..are you trying to play smart, change the topic to something else and thinking that no one will notice or you just lack common sense?..
Uh, no, you read only what you wanted to read. Nowhere did I say that warrior is doing too much damage compared to other classes. Maybe you should go back and read what I actually wrote. So much for common sense.
do you want me to quote it for you?
That is a common misconception because of big numbers, we actually do damage on-par with other classes.
Yeah, sorry, I’ve put 2.5k hours into my warrior, I don’t think there’s any “misconceptions” left.
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