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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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Oh they didn’t “change” the system they “adjusted” it ah I see now!

I don’t think anyone for a minute was suggesting you move a guild from T1-6 into Tier 8, but moving SF up high enough to give them some competition is sure the right thing to do for all parties concerned, and move everyone else down one place.

Nothankyouverymuch. ANet did what they had to do to help the Glicko Ghetto and close the gap between T8 and T7. It’s a bandaid fix until they come up with a permanent solution to the entire ranking system. No further rating adjustments should be made unless another Glicko Ghetto issue is seen in one of the tiers. And sorry, T7 just doesn’t seem to be experiencing Glicko Ghetto right now. Now if we find ourselves stuck in this tier for an extended period of time and are winning by large margins for the majority of the time, then let’s talk.

To make further rating adjustments to just SF just because you’re unhappy we’re here is unfair to the other servers in the ladder and robs us of the opportunity to learn/grow as a server. The Glicko Ghetto is resolved (for now)…the rest of our rating progression should be on our own steam.

Didn’t you get bored of dominating underpopulated servers in T8? dont get me wrong I take nothing away from you guys you show up to WvW in force week in week out and that deserves respect but surely you would like some competition in terms of numbers? all Anet seem to have done is “moved the problem” it isn’t a fix of any sorts not even short term. SF are still in exactly the same position as before, but HoD and NSP are now in the position of ET and FC.

Yes, we did get bored dominating underpopulated servers in T8. Hence why we’re seeing a WvW resurgence on our server now that we’re in T7 and are seeing a LOT of names that we haven’t seen in a long time.

But you guys are by no means “underpopulated” and are nowhere near the position that ET and FC were when we were in T8. We were winning by 200K margins (on average) in that tier. That is not happening here. You guys are more of a challenge than pre-server transfer ET and FC and are FAR more populated. Also, and your ratings are not beaten so down into the dirt like ET and FC, so I hightly doubt your scores will be a huge rating drag for whoever ends up in the first place spot. This ain’t no Glicko Ghetto.

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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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Oh they didn’t “change” the system they “adjusted” it ah I see now!

I don’t think anyone for a minute was suggesting you move a guild from T1-6 into Tier 8, but moving SF up high enough to give them some competition is sure the right thing to do for all parties concerned, and move everyone else down one place.

Nothankyouverymuch. ANet did what they had to do to help the Glicko Ghetto and close the gap between T8 and T7. It’s a bandaid fix until they come up with a permanent solution to the entire ranking system. Until a permanent fix to the rating system is found, no further rating adjustments should be made unless another Glicko Ghetto issue is seen in one of the tiers. And sorry, T7 just doesn’t seem to be experiencing Glicko Ghetto right now. Now if we find ourselves stuck in this tier for an extended period of time and are winning by large margins for the majority of the time, then let’s talk.

To make further rating adjustments to just SF just because you’re unhappy we’re here is unfair to the other servers in the ladder and robs us of the opportunity to learn/grow as a server. The Glicko Ghetto is resolved (for now)…the rest of our rating progression should be on our own steam.

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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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we dominated Tier 8 for MONTHS

I don’t think you know what dominated means…

Let me just show you, with this little gem <3

My how times have changed.

Speaking of those times a-changing…How about a score update people before the thread gets locked up tight…

I think I can squeeze one in before I have to head off to work myself.

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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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we dominated Tier 8 for MONTHS

I don’t think you know what dominated means…

Let me just show you, with this little gem <3

My how times have changed.

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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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My simple solution whenever I encounters corpse dancers is in the image below.

Anything else just gives the corpse dancer what they want and they’ll just do it to ya more.

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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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Dude…did you just say SF never got any transfers? OK then.

Sorry, I misspoke, wait… nope, I didn’t misspoke, We lost guilds-we went to T8-we got a horrible first week when the guilds left were running like headless chicken-we got our act together and won every single week by a landslide to get out of T8, from when we lost a lot of guilds to us going up just now, we never got a mass influx of transfers, like I said, most of the guilds playing wvw now were at some point pve mostly, hence why you were doing pvdoor the first week and getting a zerg hit you the next, also why we didn’t had any strategy until now that we need it.

He’s right. We didn’t get tons of new guilds/individuals coming in. You guys should have seen SF a month ago… What we have is a result of hard work to get the server to work together.

^^ While there’s no denying that we did receive some server transfers just before free server transfers were locked down, we most certainly did NOT get mass transfers as was seen with other servers. The additional folks did help bolster our numbers a bit and gave us an edge in T8, but it didn’t completely offset the number of players/guilds we lost back in December and players/guilds who stopped playing WvW when we dropped into T8.

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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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SF Portal bombs are shocking the first couple of times you see them; and I really think those should be restricted to only the people in a mezmer’s party, or only allow Xnumber of people through. Portal bombing ikittenllion people is game-breaking, and while not an infraction of the rules, it is certainly skating the line of cheating, it seems to me.

You do know that portals are limited to use by 20 people, yes? ANet nerfed Portal Bombs a LONG time ago (like, December).

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Portal_Entre

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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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Good Monday morning everyone! Great weekend though I only made it on for a few hours.

Can anyone who is not at work (or at work and playing!) kindly provide a score update?

Thank you!

The is the only one I’ll be able to do for a bit since I have to head off to work myself.

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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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Shoutout to my twinsies.
I waved….and you whack me with a sword =|

Oh hi :P Sorry I’m a bit late to replying to this. Don’t visit the forums due to the rather disgusting nature of the people that have been posted here of late. I pretty sure I remember you waving (though I hadn’t noticed why yet) but we were trying to fight a lot of you there at speldan and I didn’t have time to stop and be formal and polite Was pretty awesome tho that you chilled out with me when you guys made me take a dirt nap. Thanks for the chuckle. Hope to see you again purple afro brother.

Once some of us noticed you and mentioned we had found “Banjo’s evil twin” in map chat/mumble, you kinda became a server bounty mission of sorts to kill the impostor. If it felt like we were focusing on you more than the rest of your group, it just meant you were incredibly popular with all us SFers.

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4/5/13 FC/GoM/ET

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I miss you ET and FC guys. The troll is strong over in the T7 thread.

I have no doubt you guys will move up to this tier. Please do so soon!

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WvW Client Crashing Unusually High (4/5)

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LOTS of reports of client crashes from those SFers playing in EB this evening.

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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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I bet SF has confused green towers/keeps as their own tonight, lol. Been green for over 9000 years.

ZOMG! When did Fergs stealthcap SM??

Oh, wait…that’s us. Nevermind… >.>

(Seriously though, I can’t count the number of times I tried to kill red sentries and yaks tonight. So confused! :-/)

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Who is the siamoth fan?

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Internally we pronounce it “See-ya-moth”, and since washingtonians speak perfect english as we remind our british design director Chris Whiteside daily, that’s clearly the only correct way to say it, so there ya go.

Speaking as a California transplant, I have two counter arguments:

1) It is called soda, not pop.
2) Bag and beg do not sound the same.

Nice try, though.

As a California-to-Seattle transplant as well, I 100% concur with the above statement.

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4/5 HoD/NSP/SF

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I was hoping to see a warm welcome to the tier…but I’ll take spit, hate ’n rage.

Looking forward to seeing you NSP and HoD folks on the battlefield. It’s going to be a great change of pace.

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4/5/13 FC/GoM/ET

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Fare thee well FC and ET and best of luck with your new match-up! Kick some kitten! Hope to see you guys in T7 soon!

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FC/ET/SF

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ET and FC:

I hope you give your new neighbors as rough a welcome as possible when they arrive. It’s up to you guys to prove to ANet that the only thing keeping us down in the Glicko Ghetto was ratings numbers, and I’m looking forward to revisiting this matchup with you guys in T7.

100% in agreement with this sentiment. Give ’em hell ET and FC! We expect to see you guys in T7 soon!

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Confirmation from new WvW Staff on T8

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SF isnt getting out on their own steam either. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deus+ex+machina

Uh…yeah, we know! We should have been able to get out of T8 on our own steam a LONG time ago (1/4 of a year of domination is simply too long). But due to how Glicko works and how skewed the ratings were in T8, there was simply zero chance of us getting out of T8 on our own steam without some sort of adjustment to the ratings.

So why should T8 NA get special treatment? Why not a universally applied answer? As an academic and a historian you should know that giving a minority special treatment is not a solution.

Does any other tier have to post average margins of 200k for 11 weeks straight and still see no progression in sight? No, no they don’t. The ratings in T8 have been driven down so ridiculously low that it’s now virtually impossible to progress from T8 to T7 anymore. This so-called “special treatment” helps get the T8 ratings back within a reasonable variance of the T7 ratings and levels out the broken Glicko playing field for the most severely impacted by the Glicko math so the T8 servers don’t have to put in FAR more effort to progress than higher level tiers.

It sounds like from Devon’s posts that the other tiers are NOT being ignored. Today’s adjustment is just to give the most impacted tier a little help until a more permanent solution for the entire ladder can be found.

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Confirmation from new WvW Staff on T8

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SF isnt getting out on their own steam either. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deus+ex+machina

Uh…yeah, we know! We should have been able to get out of T8 on our own steam a LONG time ago (nearly 1/4 of a year of roflstomping domination is simply too long). But due to how Glicko works and how skewed the ratings were in T8, there was simply zero chance of us getting out of T8 on our own steam without some sort of adjustment to the ratings or how they are calculated. This intervention is something that all of T8 has been asking for and it’s refreshing to see SOMETHING is being done to help out the Glicko Ghetto.

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Confirmation from new WvW Staff on T8

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“Matchmaker, Matchmaker, make me a match,
“Find me a find, catch me a catch
“Matchmaker, Matchmaker, look through your book,
“And make me a perfect match”

LOL. A Fiddler on the Roof reference? In GW2?? And it applies to WvW?

You just made my day, thank you!!

Shout out to Manoa, looks like the Matchmaker finally woke up!

:D Thanks Cantur! That Fiddler post of mine is probably my most fav one I’ve ever posted on these forums.

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Confirmation from new WvW Staff on T8

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DR and Kain actually got out of T8 on their own merits thanks to massive free server transfers.

Fix’d

And SF didn’t get transfers either after hitting t8.

There’s no denying that we benefited from free server transfers too. We totally did just before free server transfers went away. But we didn’t get NEARLY as many as Kain or DR.

My point wasn’t to argue that Kain and DR got free server transfers and we didn’t. That’s most certainly not the case. My point was to argue that Kain and DR got out of T8 on their own steam is absolutely absurd.

Also, being someone who majored in history in college and focused on events in history that are constantly at the receiving end of revisionist “historians,” I don’t take kindly to your revisionist history jab.

Then be careful glossing over relevant facts.

There was no glossing over. The point was that Kain and DR did NOT get out of T8 on their steam. Nothing more. SF benefiting from free server transfers (and not getting nearly enough to pop them out of T8 like Kain and DR) is not a relevant fact for that specific point.

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Confirmation from new WvW Staff on T8

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“Because SF, while very normally very active in WvW, is notorious for jumping head-first into new events as they’re released. So between the new Wintersday content and the holiday break, our maps were a ghost town for much of the week and our scoring was kitten.”

Sound familiar?


Because GoM, while very normally very active in WvW, is notorious for jumping head-first into new events as they’re released. So between the new adventure box and spring break, our maps were a ghost town for much of the week and our scoring was kitten.

It’s how SF got the ball rolling on the decline to T8.

I knew that sounded awfully familiar silver!

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Confirmation from new WvW Staff on T8

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DR and Kain actually got out of T8 on their own merits thanks to massive free server transfers.

Fix’d

And SF didn’t get transfers either after hitting t8.

There’s no denying that we benefited from free server transfers too. We totally did just before free server transfers went away. But we didn’t get NEARLY as many as Kain or DR.

My point wasn’t to argue that Kain and DR got free server transfers and we didn’t. That’s most certainly not the case. My point was to argue that Kain and DR got out of T8 on their own steam is absolutely absurd.

Also, being someone who majored in history in college and focused on events in history that are constantly at the receiving end of revisionist “historians,” I don’t take kindly to your revisionist history jab.

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Confirmation from new WvW Staff on T8

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DR and Kain actually got out of T8 on their own merits thanks to massive free server transfers.

Fix’d

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FC/ET/SF

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i think im going to miss filthy :’(

me too

Perhaps we can work out some sort of visitation rights?

Or even better! Roflstomp whichever server drops into T8 and you guys can join us in T7!

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Can we PLEASE rotate the colours more?

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Interestingly enough we just were discussing this with Habib, master of all things WvW and I think we will do this soon, if it is as easy to do as we hope. It will just make things a little more interesting.

I like you, new guy. I like you a LOT! You’re so full of great communication and good news.

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Confirmation from new WvW Staff on T8

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As someone from a server who feels like they’ve been thrown under the bus for 11 weeks straight, this is a welcome change. Thank you Devon and the rest of the WvW team for this rating boost to help with the Glicko Ghetto and giving us the much anticipated opportunity to test our chops in T7! I know it’s just a bandaid, but it’s certainly a step in the right direction.

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FC/ET/SF

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Regarding the idea of T8 swapping places with T7: Oh frack yes. We’re considered the
“Plagued” Tier, the abandoned child. I’ll admit it would be quite funny to get the lot of us, all three servers chock full of aggression, out of here. For that matter, Manoa, why
think small? Let us – ALL of us – become the next T1. (cue villainous laughter …)

Right, folks. Time to rise, like the bloody Phoenix.

I’m not necessarily thinking small…just thinking in baby steps.

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FC/ET/SF

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We get the idea from the fact that as soon as VK came down here there were many people that started posting videos and giving out advise to every server that was kind of antagonistic.

Not sure why people get the idea that SF or any of T8 wants us in this match, and the only thing it has done is made our tactics a whole lot worst. Agg came down from T1 and didn’t start blowing up the forums like VK even though they were staying. I have read the T2 forums from before you guys came down and there was a complete change of attitude down here all the way in T8….but I would like to see how other T2 servers would react if you guys posted on your forums like that.

And the impartial opinions seemed a lot more like jabs than anything else. But hey I just spoke my honest opinion about how I felt about the ego stroking of a T2 guild that jumps down for a week to “Vacation” in T8 and then post like crazy on forums where they aren’t staying in.

Actually, we’ve been a lot classier here than in T2 with TC. I won’t go into detail here, but we have a 6 month long hate relationship with TC. So….you just basically lied to everyone.

Second…we put up videos every forum we are in. It’s actually pretty normal. Lots of people from our server and competing servers in T2/T3 do it. I’d suggest you guys do it too. It’s fun.

You…you are just trying to create a fight. That’s fine. Maybe someone will take the bait. However, I’d advise searching other avenues for enjoyment. I use to waste my time doing similar things. I’m happier now.

You…you……you……..your post doesn’t even make sense, first you say that VK has been a lot classier on this tier than in T2…and then the last line you talk searching for avenues of enjoyment or something like that.

If you noticed I didn’t say anything until one of the last negative post from one of your T2 heroes. hope you guys feel better coming down to T8 and insulting a whole server, though you would have had thicker skin though than to let the opinion of some one from T8 bother you.

And as far as the T2 post goes there wasn’t a lot of Heroes on there standing up to the other servers….just a whole lot of talk about how VK’s server was outnumbered by the others and that makes me think you guys came here for an ego boost and to beat up on SF cause of our numbers. (which is totally out of our control)

HEY guys lets drop down 6 tiers and fight the lowest tier then give them all advice, talk about how they aren’t as good as us, how much gold we are making, and post a bunch of videos and we can just call it a vacation.

Filthy and I dislike eachother strongly but seem to agree on this. +1 filthy

You…you…you agree with Filthy?? I’m scared…

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FC/ET/SF

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I have to admit that the free server transfers to ET and FC feel like a blessing and a curse. A curse because we’re being punished by Glicko (yet again!) for “underperforming” again. But a blessing because we’re seeing well populated fights, more tactics, more strategy. It’s given the entire tier an opportunity to learn and grow and it’s been the most fun I’ve had in WvW in quite some time.

Quite frankly, I really feel the ratings for both ET and FC are just too low (hence the Glicko Ghetto problem, those uber low scores ultimately drag down the first place server in the tier, hence why we’re “stuck”) and are most certainly not an accurate reflection of their current WvW state. And after seeing Filthy’s posts about his alt account’s transfer to T7, I’d be REALLY interested in seeing how those T7 servers would fare against us T8 servers (not just SF, but ET and FC as well). Perhaps the entire T8 should be the next T7? :P

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FC/ET/SF

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SF can’t fix the issue. Only ANet has the power to fix the issue. The issue will still exist if/when we progress out of T8. It just means some other poor server will be stuck in the Glicko Ghetto instead of us (and likely much longer than us…if GoM drops down, be prepared for them to be in the tier for 1/4 of the year or longer).

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Our battleboat was certainly the best moment of the night. Followed closely by our stealth cap of FCO from ET while they were distracted by defending it from FC.

Fun times.

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Fix Tier 8

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No point in resetting their rating. If they keep losing, their rating should keep dropping. Once they start winning, their rating will go up quite fast.

Remember: WvW is not a mandatory part of the game.

what is this I don’t even

what

seriously though, SF is winning by more than any other matchup currently and is losing 30ish points this week. inform yourself before posting pl0x

And it’s not the first time we’ve lost significant rating, despite winning by a significant margin (3/1, won by 126K points, lost 52 rating).

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Have you ever fought Legendary Defender?

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We’ve had groups zerg rush the enemy spawn before out of boredom, just to see who could make it the farthest in. Was pretty fun.

Always tons of fun. I’ve made it in alive every time, but never get much farther than the top of the steps. You get teleported out when you get too far in. :-/

EB maybe, but there’s videos of thieves getting into an enemy citadel in BL

Like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNnGQBw5Ac0

The teleport happens in both EB enemy spawns and the non-citadel enemy spawns on the BL maps. We’ve never tried any hijinks with an enemy’s citadel (or if we have, I haven’t been there for it).

BTW, that vid is from October…didn’t they fix the whole “enemies sneaking into the Citadel spawn” thing awhile back? (I remember the hubbabaloo, but don’t recall whether the fix ever actually happened)

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Observations about tier 8 (and math!)

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And I believe that was just one week of a curbstomp, it is not like they dominated us for weeks on end.

Truth. We were in T7 for three weeks. The first week (12/15-12/22) was SF/HoD/DR and both SF and HoD were both completely curbstomped by DR when they skyrocketed out of T8. The second week (12/22-12/29), DR went up to T6 and GoM dropped down into T7. That week, DR won, but the match was relatively competitive (222K for GoM vs 200 for SF vs 195 for HoD). Our final week in T7 (12/29-1/5) was the only week we were curbstomped by GoM (330K for GoM vs 135K for SF vs 147K for HoD).

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Observations about tier 8 (and math!)

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You fell into T8 after GoM curbstomped you at the same time Kain was continually scoring over 500k for weeks on end to beat the glicko trap (Week 52 in Milenium history).

Sure, GoM curbstomped us…but they were also curbstomping HoD during that same match. The scores between HoD and SF were really close when we were in that tier and it was a tossup who would ultimately drop down into T8. HoD edged us out the week Kain skyrocketed out of T8 and we were the ones who dropped.

It should also be noted that much of the reason we dropped and HoD didn’t was because our PvXers (which is a large part of our WvW community) were not in WvW as much that week since they were getting the last tidbits of the Wintersday event before it ended. Not to mention we lost some WvW guilds during December.

Once we dropped into T8, we started seeing our PvXers back in WvW again. And just before free transfers were removed, we received some transfers that boosted our WvW community. And we’re seeing more and more PvEers giving WvW a try. We’re most certainly not the same server numbers-wise as when we dropped into T8.

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Manoa.5897

Wow, keep it classy LOL.
A lot of us “forum warriors” use the forums as an escape from work (those of us living the cubical life).

^^This. As much as I <3 GW2, it certainly doesn’t pay the bills. Some of us don’t have the luxury to play GW2 all day and have to work for a living. Being active on the forums during our work breaks is our way of getting our GW2 fix when we can’t play.

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Manoa.5897

I don’t think most of those people are from FC though. Although I am sure there are some. As far as tying up population slots… how dare they tie up 30 slots. LOL. Seriously, that’s such a ridiculous complaint to lobby at VK.

Anyways how does the saying go… teach a man to fish (or something).

Back before the free server transfers, FC couldn’t even reach 30 people in their zergs (and sometimes, were lucky to see even that many from FC in all of WvW). Tying up 30 slots may very well have a huge impact on a server with such a low baseline population. We’ll see what the final result is next week.

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Have you ever fought Legendary Defender?

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Manoa.5897

We’ve had groups zerg rush the enemy spawn before out of boredom, just to see who could make it the farthest in. Was pretty fun.

Always tons of fun. I’ve made it in alive every time, but never get much farther than the top of the steps. You get teleported out when you get too far in. :-/

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Manoa.5897

I wonder why you didn’t posted that on the matchup thread…

^^ [15 char]

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Well since SF hasn’t had a worthy opponent in over 2.5 months don’t think any one here will take anything you say seriously. Seeing Agg’s tactics and skill I really find it hard to believe that VK came from a top tier server, but then again maybe coming down here was supposed to be a ego boost for you guys. Not to sure why any one from a T2 server would come and vacation on T8 for a week but it was nice of you guys to take 30+ free transfers from the lowest populated server for whatever the reason (sure they will be thanking you at the end of this upcoming week)

Glad that Agg is staying for the long run, good to have decent armies to fight.

lawl… I stated the part about the trasnfers before reading this post… Glad to see I’m not the only one who think they shouldn’t have done that as this pretty much hurt FC more than actually helped.

There are a number of folks who think it was a bad move on VK’s part. FC reached High population during the free transfer offer, so people weren’t able to transfer to FC anymore because they were no longer medium population. VK essentially tied up free transfer slots, denying serious permanent transfers the opportunity to transfer for free to FC and denying the lowest populated server the opportunity for a permanent population boost.

FC may have picked up some new WvW moves from VK, but I wouldn’t doubt it’s going to be a huge challenge for FC to pull some of those new moves off without the population to back it up.

Hope you VK guys were able to get those map completions you needed during your little “vacation.”

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Manoa.5897

Half of these posts don’t even make sense.

Totally agree -.-
ppl linking wikipedia wtf o.O

I wanna read about fights ><
I want screnshots with rivers of blood

This good enough?

Hi Ungood!!!
Pls dont report this post <3

Hi Back.

Please Don’t report this post either

You two are reported… kthxbye

Stop with the forum PvP report wars and go back to the battlefield you guys!

OMG REPORTED!!!

lol.

srsly tho. i had fun tonight, and i stayed up WAY later than i should have… by like 2 hours. >.> work is gonna suck tomorrow morning /cry

I have a hot and heavy deadline looming at work, so I’m missing all the fun tonight.

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Observations about tier 8 (and math!)

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Manoa.5897

Or DR will continue their amazing journey to T8 and back. That in itself will be worth the price of popcorn.

“There and Back Again: A WvWer’s Tale,” by Devona’s Rest

Sounds like the Blockbuster hit of the summer.

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Manoa.5897

I think we can really learn a lesson from these forums.

I can’t speak for other servers, but ET we’re better than this. Why do people get on here just to complain about numbers? It’s obvious they have more but it’s also not the only reason they win in some situations. Sure it’s the backbone of the score right now but I’m talking more of the individual group fights / open fights that happen (because it’s really easy to defend a fully upgraded tower / keep), but they aren’t all bad and trying to slam them just makes you seem really childish.

For some of the new guilds that have come to our servers, claiming you’re god’s gift to pvp and are going to carry our server isn’t going to make you many friends. Just an imho and observation.

Also +1 to fc, minus the odd man out here QQing you guys have kept quiet and had a certain humility that was one of the major reasons I came to ET with the guild a while back ago… wasn’t about the odds.

…and why is everyone so hard on VK? There were never any illusions about them staying so why try to slander them all the time? They came, and, although they were a bit too loud on the forums for my tastes, they helped show FC new tricks. Seems like they were appreciated there so why can’t that compute for people from other servers?

Anyway, take it easy guys gl in wvw.

^^ Smartest thing anyone has posted in this thread all day.

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Manoa.5897

Would like to point out that the xfers actually screwed you guys. You were on your way up to T7 slowly but you were and after the transfers you are currently on your way back down separating the gap. All you can do now is really cheer for the people you wanted everyone to push down for you, HoD. And hope we just target one server so they begin to drop significantly. Ahhhh karma got to love it.

Haha, indeed, and it’s looking like the new hopeful victim is GoM.

Sad that our only chance to escape this tier is to wait for another server to stumble and drop into the tier. Absolutely ridiculous that the rating system is so broken that we can’t escape on our own steam.

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If you look at the current t8 score, the first place server is losing points. That seems completely unfair for them. Let these poor kittens escape to the next tier.

This isn’t the first time we’ve lost rating while still winning by a landslide.

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Personally, the people on SF who wanted out of T8, should have taken the chance to jump to HoD or some other T7 server when the door was opened for you.

No. SF has been my home since BWE1. And server transfers doesn’t do anything to actually solve the rating issue. It just further compounds it.

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SF has been in T8 for 12 weeks straight now (3 months, a solid quarter of the year) and has dominated for 10 weeks straight. As of last Friday, SF has won by 75K to 296K margins (with an average of 206K and a median of 225K) each match for the 10 weeks of domination. However, this isn’t “adequate” enough to Glicko for SF to progress from T8 to T7 (yet other servers in other tiers aren’t held to such standards).

Win harder. Since there’s been a bit of Kaineng bashing going on here, let’s go ahead and look at Kaineng’s departure from T8 – to break out of T8, we needed multiple 500k weeks. SF is barely breaking 300k, and that’s not even a given. Although that would definitely qualify for a blowout, it’s not enough to get out of T8. Especially now.

I should have posted “yet other tiers aren’t held to such standards.” Yes, other servers have been held to high standards. And those servers who were held to such standards were those who were stuck in T8 for way too long as well.

Sadly, SF never got nearly the number of transfers that Kain did to make breaking out of T8 a reality for us. But my argument stands…no server should have to roflstomp by such ridiculous margins for so long just to break out of their tier. Whether DR, Kain or SF. Or anyone unfortunate to drop into the tier in the future (if we’re ever actually able to break out).

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Oh goodie, T8 Emote Wars…again. /sarcasm

EVERY server has folks who do this. If you don’t like it, don’t do it and if/when it is done to you, just move on. Kittening about it gives those who do it exactly what they want and just encourages them (and others) to do it more.

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Manoa.5897

SF has been in T8 for 12 weeks straight now (3 months, a solid quarter of the year) and has dominated for 10 weeks straight. As of last Friday, SF has won by 75K to 296K margins (with an average of 206K and a median of 225K) each match for the 10 weeks of domination. However, this isn’t “adequate” enough to Glicko for SF to progress from T8 to T7 (yet other tiers aren’t held to such standards). We lost -52 rating on March 1st for "underperforming, even though we won by a 126K margin. This week, a similar rating decrease is projected to occur for this week’s match because we’re “underperforming” again (even though we’re doubling the second place score).

The free server transfers hasn’t fixed anything, just prolonged our stay in T8 for who knows how much longer. Now, I DO think free server transfers are something that does need to happen to help populate the underpopulated servers. Because let’s be honest, FC and ET do need more WvWers so they can be competitive with whoever they are facing in T8. But that fix should have come at the same time as a fix to the rating system. Doing it before a rating fix just screws things up even more.

Now, we do know that it’s been officially been confirmed that ANet IS looking at the WvW server rating issue. Hopefully a fix comes soon. It’s starting to feel too little too late. :-/

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How do we report hackers or trolls in wvw?

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Manoa.5897

For trolls, report I use the “verbal abuse” category in the Report function.

For hackers, grab screenies and/or video and send that documentation along with a description of what happened to exploits@arena.net.

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