That would made instantly staff meta in pvp. Obsidian flesh is rare skill that gives some damage migration on demand and it’ really needed to run any ele build in higher ranting’s. Personally I love staff but new focus and off dagger would become useless or just be not optimal in most meta matchups.
Don’t get me wrong…it’s fun idea but It doesn’t improve really nothing…we need quality changes…reworks…
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Now ANet can make pvp fun with variety of modes like in GW1 and let your community make the game into esport for you, perhaps we could even get the legendary GvG.
You can’t make anything with empty servers and pve rewards grinders.
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perhaps ANet can reallocate those resources into making an easier Tier for Raiding comparable to Fractals T1 and T2?
So about that…money from esports where purely from marketing budget, not from developers pockets or any resources tied with game development. All money was from marketing budget.
Truth is that this anet has already money to put effort in any part of the game. Esport money pool is laughable for company big as Anet.
So now there is no esports so I guess we will see more gw 2 banners and adds around internet.
Besides as already certain somebody pointed out – there wasn’t any esport event in half an year…did you noticed any of good quality content in gw 2?
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“yay now my game mode will have frequent updates, expansion will release next month, theyll have more devs because they finally stopped working on esports”
Last esportss project was 6 months ago and obviously paid for well before it happened.
How much of a difference are you feeling?
Diamond in smite after one month, keep an eye out for us!
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Helseth sarcasm is just perfect in this situation.
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Good. Hopefully now they will focus on PvP balance for the average player, instead of ESL level players.
I dont know where you placed last season but i finished almost at plat2 .
The last PvP match i did THIS season looked liked this.
The idea of balancing for weak players wont work and it doesnt work the other way either.
I wished i taped it because i would walk into 1 vs 3 fights and they couldnt even force me to use a rebound.
That’s why I’m always asking them to balance around the average player. They need to be balancing around high gold (making an assumption about the distribution of players here). Not around bronze, and not around ESL. You will never have good balance if you balance around either end of the spectrum.
WRONG – ESL players thanks to their experience and knowledge where first ones to discover something broken or overpowered (because when they competed they where first ones to abuse it when real money was on line). Typical Gold player plays mettabattle build or TRASH build. There is nothing to balance about and even if they have experience…too many times they don’t know what rotation is.
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Good. Hopefully now they will focus on PvP balance for the average player, instead of ESL level players.
What’s wrong with people in this community deliberately demanding developers to listen to players who genuenly have worse mehanical understanding of the game? What kind of logic do you creatures operate on?
And how narrow-minded can you be?
He’s completely right. Why game should be balanced based feedback of players who don’t know what rotation means in pvp?
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So it’s official – arena.net abandons pro league. Good that this is cleared up.
Unfortunately it also means that pvp community will leave gw 2 permanently. Theory crafting, skill and motivation to push yourself higher – it doesn’t have any sense now. Already Skrims have not real value ( nobody tested last 3 balance updates) and no content for 5 man premade. Knowledge of rotations and motivation of players who will want to play to just be good will decline because there is no endgame in pvp.
Ranked is already bad after this season population mass decline so season 7 will be even worse. What’s left will be population of players farming pve gear…this sound really great…
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I should never have made the What happend with sindrener thread. Honestly I legimately wondered what happend with his rank and that of metrix and what for ramifications it had for the rest of us. I had no intention to suggest that he died, got in an accident, left the game or something else noteworthy happend. Next time i gotta think my titles through or they become clickbait.
Don’t be remorseful, it was a very entertaining thread. You even got the devs commenting on it.
It’s really fun thread. It’s good thing when we have such bad times in pvp right now and everywhere we have salt and complete hopelessness on forum.
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I was for my opinion you can’t make optimal dps or even hybrid build with ele. Reason is that there are no skills/traits that support ele on dps amulet or work without healing power/toughness.
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Make elemental bastion trait heal baseline 1k, remove scaling with healing power so it’ always 1k heal, it should be made pvp only change – now you have some tempest value on different amulet than f****** mender/magi.
That’s all for now.
That no good this game is a haves and have nots. If you lack effects like poison your simply weaker as a class vs most bunker builds. Ele is simply an out dated class that mostly balanced for 2012 where most classes are balanced for 2017. (no all in condi dmg builds no reiscieceset no anty boons) Ele simply dose not fit in gw2 any more.
I am not sure if I understand you well but I agree that everything on ele feels outdated when compering with other classes. I just suggest to make tempest less healing power heavy so there would be some value from more offensive amulets or at least paladin.
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After HoT everything was power creeped and sustain creeped – a lot classes has many ways to on demand avoid damage in direct way (block’s, evades) or indirectly avoid (stealth, better mobility). Ele has almost non these. Ele relies on stats and passive proc’s that work after you get hit. Focus is last defence line that keeps ele in pvp.
Unfortunately there is no amulet that has both toughness and healing power (everything scales on tempest only with healing power and we can’t avoid damage in such easy way like…for example war on berserk amulet). Healbot has quite boring yet critical role – it gives sustain to classes that thier role is to destroy bunkers but too much glassy when focused in large teamfights →necro/rev. Healbot tempest can’t easy disengage as druid or scrapper so he will die for sure under focus without ekem focus offhand.
Dagger offhand is not that bad…but kinda force ele to fight in smaller fights so ALOT of support is wasted. Besides what’s the point is staying in these fights if thief will +1 you in seconds and just cc you to death (because projectile denial is important when defending from pistol cc and we don’t have it on dagger offhand). Dagger would be so much better weapon used in offensive build but tempest has 0 value from offensive amulets and works only with traits from water and earth.
So it short – if you don’t be to be useless against competitive players using metabuilds…you use focus…for better and worse.
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Make elemental bastion trait heal baseline 1k, remove scaling with healing power so it’ always 1k heal, it should be made pvp only change – now you have some tempest value on different amulet than f****** mender/magi.
That’s all for now.
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This kinda update should happen after season – not in the middle of season. If works bad or it buged it will ruin many people’s raiting. Anet shouldn’t experiment on players when season is on.
You are defending the integrity of a system that has no integrity. And during seasons is when they should experiment as people play even less in the off season. If they have something they think is a good addition they should just put it in as soon as possible as far as I am concerned.
I am not defending anything . This kind of updates are proven as generally untested and we usually get thing that devs ,,think" that it works. I don’t mind anet experiment with mmr and matchmaking to improve the game but it shouldn’t be during season when players have something to lose – their rating.
If anet had test serwers or something like that i wouldn’t mind. If anet knew (not thought) what effect they will make – i don’t mind. It might be good change , we need check this out right? But if it’s bugged, broken ( more uneven matchups, blowouts) people will lose rating.
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This kinda update should happen after season – not in the middle of season. If works bad or it buged it will ruin many people’s raiting. Anet shouldn’t experiment on players when season is on.
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Generally i don’t mid zero pips for losing. We should play to win – not for grind. I know that rewards farming is problem for brozne but it shouldn’t be allowed.
Or change like this: pips only for wining and close matches like 450-500.
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The rewards for losing are the one and only reason to tolerate being stomped.
The present matchmaking is making very one sided matches. There’s not a lot of motivation to play against a stacked deck without rewards.
Yea but we wanna to motivate people to learn the game, CARE to win (so they don’t sabotage tryharding guys), get/ask somebody what builds are viable or how to rotate.
The main point of hating pve guys is accusation that they grind the pvp system rather then play. Let’s kill rewards on losing, hardcore pvpers already don’t care about them.
Edit: And no…matchmaker doesn’t make one sided matches…players do…lack of them.
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It’s nice ideas but dev clearly abondend us and pvp – we don’t know even if they know what’s going on with population right now.
What has the community done to grow the player base? If the answer is nothing, why would they commit resources to a game mode that people aren’t interested in? If more people want to PvE stories and raids then they will move resources there.
Really? My answer is this – community is gone → there is no player base. Did you played any ranked match lately? Why we got some many treads about population right now? Why mmr stopped working for some many? Because many can’t get teams made from their divsion. If your at bottom of platinum you have 90% chance that you will fight Sind/Misha duo that will blast you to space (heh even in unranked I have to fight Sind). How it’s even possible that to get to top 250 you just need to GET to platinum!? Compere top 250 with season 5. It’s a joke!
I am wrong with one thing…with word abandoned. We just don’t know. Anet is silent. We can only say:
- maybe anet see something wrong with population right now…maybe not
- maybe we will have sigil and skills balance update soon or not
- maybe we will have automated tournaments…or not (because they just said they like the idea…not that it will happen)
- maybe there will be an official tournament…or not
- maybe they will do something about rewards…or not.
Ehh we need new Grouch.
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It’ looks like if I got some really good matches (not one sided) I can’t vote in this one…
As a guy who studied making polls this is one is total garbage on many levels…simply because it’s made to prove op perspective.
Problem with mmr or matchmaking is much more complicated on many levels: population, hour when you play, subjective people perspective on their/other skill.
Right now we have bigger problems then quality of matches that is victim of many many problems that accumulated and exploded in this season.
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I gave up on trying to rank up. I started playing for the loot. I decided to go way back to my roots. In GW1 I was a Monk in Random, Team and HoH. I jumped onto my Druid. A class I had overlooked as someone above sagely pointed out a support class cannot carry a bad team.
I played as consistently as ever but all the old healer instincts are there. 12 straight wins, rut climbed out of. Even in some of the worst class stacking scenarios we pulled through. It was a good day.
Good for you!
Druid has more then healing
1. Good pets ( so you don’t need bow for damage)
2. Good roaming and disengage (staff and end celestial stealth + hyper speed)
3. Nice bunkering and options to hold 2 people on far[S/D setup] (so you can carry on your own if you know how kite).
4. You can counter some strong builds: chrono, gs berseker, DH.
As much as I love ele I can’t suggest going healbot simply because nobody really needs your heals in this meta besides (everything is tanky) rev/necro.
Sage healbot is kinda option – it has pressure in teamfights…and that’s it. Stay on druid just because is more flexible.
Lastly forget about loot – play to simply PLAY BETTER.
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Thanks for the tips. I tried my hand at Scrapper and the losses are getting closer but there are still losses. Even teaming with a mate we will get a good win streak but then start seeing the same clowns that consistently throw matches. I can only carry a bad team to a point.
I can look at the names in my team at the start and tell my mate “X will get killed in the first minute then probably blame Y. Y will get into a slanging match and we’ll be effectively 2 players down while they rage. Z, who is running into the wall will probably still be running into the same wall for the first two minutes”. Then it plays out exactly like that. There are just too few people playing if I can get to know a bunch of random matches that well and see them day after day.
I’d like to see Random Arena and Team Arena back from GW1 but right now I’d settle for flagging certain players as “never team me with this person again even if I have to wait 15 minutes for a match”.
Don’t expect that you will be effective because you changed class. Like I said you first need to get into the mechanics to do your role.
As scrapper can you:
1.Insta power rez necro with sthealth and ress/stomp gyro necro?
2. Win against mesmers, Dh, macebow – classes that you supposed to counter in 1v1.
3.Push far, get yourself outnumbered (without dying), survive getting +1 by thief so you let rest of your team easier outnumber other 2 nodes?
Duel a lot , go unranked practice getting outnumbered, watch some good scrappers on twitch.
I don’t play scrapper myself so for better tips go on engi forum. I myself use macebow, bunker s/d druid and healbot ele.
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No matter what that info would be it’s only distraction from one simple question:
Why I couldn’t carry?
If we can rule out toxic players argument still there is no value of this info. People will try even more to put blame on mmr/other players rather then their inability to improve.
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Simply no…let’s not give new tools to abuse for trolls and unstable people. We know how seasons 1-4 looked like.
I disagree it would be a good sanity check. People already act nasty based on what they see in a match anyway it can’t get much worse. Not showing it takes away some incentive for A-net to do a better job also the player base might be able to find bugs with the matchmaking if the results are not what A-net expects and its pointed out to them. They won’t do it though and use what you are saying as an excuse but I believe the real reason is they don’t want us to see the very large MMR spreads that are in many matches together. I will always be for more not less knowledge for the player. The answer to what you are so afraid of is called the block feature or maybe not getting bent out of shape by what someone says. Both work surprisingly well.
Anet already has data I don’t know what that would improve. Most blowouts can be explained by checking hour of match, player population, class stacking and such.
We could see divisions in seasons 1-4 and that didn’t have worth in checking how mmr behaves.
Like I sad we shouldn’t give more tools for trolls. Your talking about block and I talk about more things than post match team/map chat.
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NEW: Sigil of Ruthlessness: Gain 5 might (3 seconds) when interrupting a foe.
Kinda low reward for something that important…
•Sigil of Punishment is now Sigil of Enhancement and deals .5% damage per boon on yourself. We didn’t like the idea of a damage bonuses based on something you didn’t have direct control over.
This sound really ridiculous on classes like rev or engi…but I see it on ele.
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