Guild Wars 2

Curuglas.1847:

denny.8350:

I think you should consider raising 50/50 to 1000 AP so it allows the achievers to receive a large chest. Thanks,

And yet another ugly example for aforementioned greed …

Because he was obviously being serious.

^forget axe and shield, fuse the bow and hammer for ranged aoe blast finishers with blinding

Mikau.6920:

I also have a full MF gear. I am concerned to what will happen to it.

They should make all MF gear UNsoulbound and allow us to choose the new combo stats set. In that way you at least could sell it all (for who already have all sets possibles) or use in another way (zerker, soldier, rabid, etc).

This is exactly what I was thinking.

They’ll be changing the stat scheme either way. At least by unsoulbinding any gear, people who dislike the new stat scheme won’t feel cheated.

I’m huge fan of increasing champion drops, but I just hope they don’t overdo it and end up having all the champion spawn points being camped by mobs of players XD

Anyway, this is looking very nice. HUGE +1 to anet for adding more skills and traits, hopefully this will make us gw1 players happier with a more familiar feel

Looks like they’re also removing he bonus gold to stop cof1 farming. I wonder if this counts as a warrior nerf? :p

^but that issue applies to other straight line mobility classes as well, and it’s the main reason people complained about RTL mobility. I’d much rather have the old cd and be affected by snares. Some people still consider ele to be one of the mobile classes just because of that snare ignoring aspect. Besides, chill isn’t overly common.

If they had just made the to be added ascended known before hand, and that it was the final tier in strength, I don’t think anyone would have complained. But yeah, ascended things can be kind of annoying with the time gated stuff. Luckily some of them, like rings, only take about a week each.

Keep current charge+timer system.

Lightning Hammer- lightning storm- increase radius to be equal to a shard from ice storm

Ice bow- Double auto damage attack and increase projectile speed by 33%. Maybe replace healing with a 5 sec stack of confusion.

Lava axe-increase auto attack damage by 25%, makes skill 2 a blast finisher, replace ring of fire with the /d variant

Earth shield-increase auto damage by 20%, add 1 sec weakness (remember its a single target skill and 130 range, and autos chew up charges)
Crippling shield- increase damage and cripple duration by 50%,
OR reduce cripple duration from 2 sec to 1 sec and make crippling shield the auto attack. Double shield smack damage and add 5sec weakness.

magnetic charge- it has a weird clunky pause if you use it on an enemy at less than maximum range, but otherwise okay
Magnetic shield (pull skill)- reduce cast to 1sec

Shar.3402:

Navzar.2938:

Shhhhhhh stop spreading the FGS trick or it’ll be nerfed:p

Really though, it’s very limited because of the wal thing as you said. Somehow I feel like it’ll be hard to convince pugs they should be luring it to a wall as well. When you can apply it though, it’s a very powerful trick.

you don’t need a wall, you can do that with Lightning Flash.

Yeah Blimm mentioned that near the beginning/mid of the thread :p

As for the changing from warriors thing, I don’t think the general populations will do it, but if enough eles get together you can still have a decent number of people doing ele runs. That could be enough for people to realize eles are an option after a while.

Lasty, I think mobility nerf will just be a decrease to the skill range (maybe increase to cd as well) and less range will mean less fire trail= less damage. So we’ll have to see how that plays out.

If the gods are fighting in the backgroud, sparks of power from the clashing and miss-aimed magics would be a nice way to introduce environmental aoe effects.

I think we’d probably play as the minions of one of the gods. Maybe as eternals or using something similar to the avatar appearance.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Avatar_of_Balthazar.png

edit: Oh yeah, forgotten would have been a good choice, I guess they’d end up making those in game models for them eventually anyway.

I still don’t understand why they didn’t just allow RTL to affected by snares like other movement skills.

Julie Yann.5379:

I main a warrior just recently leveled an ele and I don’t get why all the complaining. Sure I can’t DPS like crazy like a warrior does …can’t faceroll pve content with my ele like I do on the warrior or guardian…

This is why people complain about ele (and many other classes) in pve. All a large chunk of people want is the highest dps possible so they can speed clear. That’s why the request for heavy classes is so high in pve.

…In WvW however the ele kicks kitten…

QFT

How about a good old fashioned elimination or kill count?

^Yeah, my bad. Originally I was converting the crit damage to points to make a % comparison, but then I realized the ratio was different on pve and pvp, so I changed it quickly. Even if you just count the crit damage part as another x amount of stat points as you’d get in another stat, pvp celestial is about 2.7% more stat points, where as pve is ~28% more.

Speaking of the mobility nerf, that’s also going to mean a damage nerf as well right?

SynfulChaot.3169:

Navzar.2938:

SynfulChaot.3169:

We don’t know if she’s been doing anything useful since the events of GW1 as the gods went strangely silent. I’m pretty sure she has been, though.

Useless in game. As in in all the missions the closest thing she does to being helpful is use “Incoming!” on your allies near the beginning. Yet still gets the credit for your missions in lore.

She attained godhood as the gods graced her with the gift to contain Abbadon’s power. Not us.

And last I checked, she did not take sole credit for the defeat of Abbadon. She played a role, but it is not claimed that she did it alone. Nor is she portrayed as stopping Nightfall herself.

Yes, she is useless in-game. 95% or more of NPCs are as NPC AI in all games is kittening bad.

Give up the goddess thing, it’s a red herring and a circular argument.. Yes she became the new god. But that was after any game play involving her. It doesn’t magically change the thing prior to it.

Most quest ally npcs actually do something, like at least hit things and sponging up some damage. It’s not about “we were robbed”, or “I want to be a god”, it’s simply about her being a lousy character, that’s why people dislike her.

^Nikkle comment is very important.
PvP celestial amulet gives a stat total of 1704 + 15crit damage vs 1936 points on other amulets. (or 1651 + 15% crit)
PvE Full celestial armor on the other hand gives 840 + 15 crit damage vs 763 ( or 539 + 15crit) compared to regular gear. ( I don’t know the stats of full exotic celestial accessories, so this is only the armor).

So you’ll find pvp celestial isn’t as powerful as pve celestial gear.

SynfulChaot.3169:

Navzar.2938:

And once again, it’s not about Kormir getting the power, it’s about her not doing anything useful.

We don’t know if she’s been doing anything useful since the events of GW1 as the gods went strangely silent. I’m pretty sure she has been, though.

Useless in game. As in in all the missions the closest thing she does to being helpful is use “Incoming!” on your allies near the beginning. Yet still gets the credit for your missions in lore.

It’s a lot harder to pull off on an actual person though, unless they’re dumb enough to pin themselves to a wall and/or stand in the fire. Closest you can get to making it reliable is signet of earth + lightning flash.

Also, there’s the issue of retaliation. The damage comes from a huge number of hits. I tried it out earlier, and a guardian popped retaliation for his ally, downing me and bringing himself to ~20% hp (granted I wasn’t full glass, so if I was he’d probably have gone down first).
…but yeah, good chance of it being nerfed anyway. Even if we can’t do other things with the FGS on.

^ Yeah I get what you’re saying. My main concern was magnetic aura, preventing other auras but I actually forgot that shocking aura only works on <600 range attacks at the time of posting.

I’m going to clear up some things quickly. Firstly, things like guild banners, missions, and commander tags are of benefit to large amounts of people, so there’s the major difference right there. Personal item vs service for many.

Two, which people have been mindlessly been repeating, yes, it is an non essential item, but it’s just as non essential as the other kites, so that argument holds no water for extra requirements seeing as they’re all nearly the same thing. (Although I suppose what Sir Vincent said about guild items could explain anet’s view on guild skin items for me, so thank you for that answer.)

Three, slightly off topic, if gold is flowing out like water, maybe someone should take a look at that cof1 farm? It seems to be giving out disproportionally high amounts of gold compared to the rest of the game, but without extra difficulty.

Just wait until next month, they’ll probably have some gift for you then.

See I don’t really understand that, why is a guild kite more costly than the other three? They’re just all just as unique and almost all as good looking (though I personally don’t like the air one as much).

Maybe I’m just missing something as to why the guild kite is considered special?
Is it bigger? Higher demand? Unless there’s a reason, I can’t see this as greed to want all kites to be equal cost.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

i’m gonna vote for kiel.

nothing beats cheaper way point fees.

You have to remember it’s only cheaper for 4 weeks, so it’s probably not really going to save you much unless it’s a huge discount.

I think it’s a decent bit of money considering you already had to pay for the kite.
It’s not really too much about greed on the player end imo. Many people don’t farm CoF all day, or almost at all. For them, this is a couple of days worth of extra gold on top of what they already paid for the kite. That’s why people dislike it.

Dalo.3941:

PS: New Elite: Gain all auras for 8 seconds. All aura related traits effect the Elite.

Hmm would this be better at the same time, or each activating consecutively?

At the same time you’d have a powerful punishment for hitting you, but some of the effects would lessen each other, such as shocking aura and magnetic aura.
Separately they each work to their full extend, and have the added benefit of splitting the boons from traits into multiple smaller packages, which is good against boon removal.

Aether McLoud.1975:

The message is always more important than the messenger.

If a known pessimist complains about something, people don’t pay it much heed. This is because they’ll think something along the lines “Well of course he’s complaining, he thinks everything is terrible!”.

If a known optimist complains about something, then people will give it more of a look. This is because they’ll think something along the lines of “Wow if even he’s complaining, it must be bad!”.

Many people also have a bad tendency to be influenced by someone’s words or support just because they’re well known, like celebrities, rather than actually paying attention to their credentials (this doesn’t usually apply to online games though, just a general statement about life).

So the messenger is rather important, even if it shouldn’t be.

I originally named him Gód, but after about three months someone reported me and I had to rename him because it was deemed offensive.

Now his name is Navzar, because he’s my main, so I gave him the account name.

“Evon Gnashblade and Ellen Kiel are trying to work out a trade agreement with the Zephyr Sanctum in order to help them secure a spot on the Captain’s Council of Lion’s Arch. Use Support Tokens and coins to help out your candidate of choice!”

I think we’re just helping them get the trade agreement, and the one who gets it is worthy of the council seat.

BilboBaggins.5620:

Alleluia.1320:

BilboBaggins.5620:

Remember, a vote for me is a vote for change!

I don’t know if we’re in need of a Burglar, Mr. Baggins.

But aren’t all politicians burglars?

You, sir, have just won my vote.

I’m not saying Kormir took credit because she took the power. I wouldn’t want to be stuck in that realm, would you? I say because if you look at all the lore, it says that Kormir is the one who defeated abaddon, with help. When she actually did nothing but release him in the first place, and absorb his power when he died.
Balthazar part was from gw2 lore, it’s in an orrian history scroll in game at a pact camp.
Abaddon’s mistake was in giving out to much as he gave magic. While he didn’t make a mistake in his own eyes, it does show that the gods’s actions aren’t necessarily what is best for the people.
For Grenth, yeah, he didn’t really make any mistakes. It just shows that Grenth doesn’t know how to contain Dhuum and he does make it out, many times, that’s why the players get to fight him. He’d be in a very bad spot if it weren’t for all the random heroes :p

And once again, it’s not about Kormir getting the power, it’s about her not doing anything useful.

Vote Navzar, a vote for me is a vote thrown away!

^My statement was directly almost completely at Kormir, and partially at Rurik (stop rushing into battle!).
Even if they do things on the side (except for Korimir again, who was busy being blind and trapped in the relm of torment) That doesn’t give them an excuse for taking the credit for player accomplishments when all they do is tag along and do nothing while the players fight. I guess in that respect Kiel is better than Kormir, at least Kiel hits things.

As for the gods knowing what they’re doing, lol XD Abaddon was a god, he messed up big time giving out magic and and turning on them. Balthazar said it would be a breeze to take out the other non human races, completely wrong (lore wise, he’s wrong quite often). Grenth nearly lost the underworld and let Dhuum escape again, repeatedly. So they mess up, pick randomly, and have no idea what they’re doing quite often.

Evon all the way. Fall of Abaddon will be an awesome event to play through, and there’s no way I’m supporting Kormir v3, who’s only ability is stealing player’s accomplishments.

SynfulChaot.3169:

This argument again? Really?

Why can’t people understand that as players, we do not want what they’re getting!. If we were the ones that attained godhood, the game would be over. Nothing more to do. If we were the ones that led the Pact, the chara would be so busy leading we’d get to do nothing. If we were the ones that were being pushed for Captain’s Council, we’d be embroiled in internal politics and stuff and not get to have fun.

We don’t want that stuff. We want to play the game. Those charas are made to take those roles as, as a player, those rewards are not rewards at all.

That doesn’t the main character we’re helping has to be useless and continuously worsen the situation. You know what an easy solution would have been? Make them a decent, powerful character that actually does something.

When you put it like that, that sounds like a very interesting plot line. Looks like another reason to vote for Evon

Would you rather see the fall of a god, or another asuran lab accident?

Kiel blew up a ship. No doubt fully manned and filled with goods as well. That doesn’t sound life free trade to me. Would you support a terrorist who hinders trade through force?

Evon on the other hand will let us fight against the evil god Abaddon. Be a hero, vote Evon.

inazuma.7021:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

While I have much love and respect for Kiel, there’s no way she’s going to win. I had planned on giving all my votes to her… up until Evon promised discounted Black Lion Keys.

You do know the discounts are TEMPORARY, right? 4 weeks and then it’s over.

This. Don’t vote on temporary change, vote on the permanent content.

Abaddon (Evon) vs some asuran lab accident (Kiel)

Leablo.2651:

Don’t worry, the one true king returns every Halloween.

Mad King Thorn captain councilor 2013!

I wonder if the legendary market is taking a hit because of zenith weapons? They’re pretty great looking, and they’re a beginner skin so everyone can get them.

Speaking of which, they should really remake that Zhaitan battle. And yeah I kind of agree that content should focus a bit more on the dragons rather than random new factions like sky pirates appearing.

Annual events are okay though, since they add some realistic festivities, but I guess those don’t really count as living stories.

Pandeh.5248:

I have been thinking they will release all 3 in a bundle.

But you know how much you have to gather to gain back the gold/gems that could been sold for gold? It’s so not worth buying, sure is handy but not good for your vallet.

Compared to the 4s cost of a normal tool, you’d have to go through 700 tools worth of uses for each one to pay off XD (calculated at th current 100gems =3.5g)

But anyway, the weapons are by far for appearances, as well as slightly for convenience. Consider them legendaries among gathering tools.

Manuhell.2759:

Imho, its design is flawed. It should reflect a percentage of the damage done. As it is now, it is useless toward big damaging skills and extremely harsh versus weak multi-hit attacks.

This, very much.

covenn.7165:

Some of you need to delete your posts before something gets changed. Seriously.

I second this. Remember what happened to d/d? Then again, they only balance for pvp right?

It’s actually very powerful against some multi hit attacks.

If you really want to argue from a lore perspective, then Evon embodies the spirit of Lion’s Arch far better so he’d be more fitting for a town of pirates (maybe not to the Hero, but certainly to the pirates). Besides, all of his actions start and end with gold on his mind. Who knows what the mass murderer and terrorist Kiel is after?

As for benefits- Evon’s discount will be useless to most, and Kiel will only save you a gold or two. Both are kind of meh as far as impact is concerned.

Also, Abaddon fractal>all other details :p

Swamurabi.7890:

Dolyak Mastery
Skritt Mastery
Centaur Mastery
Quaggan Mastery
Hylek Mastery
Ogre Mastery
Dredge Mastery
Siegerazer Mastery
Siegecrusher Mastery

Most of those are covered under mercenary I think. With the exception of siegerazer/crusher and dolyaks anyway.

3sec delay on skill usage can make things a lot less fun

Crashday.1792:

Definetly voting for Evon
Kiel may be nice cause of the reduced waypoint cost, but then again the cost as it is never really bothered me and i hate the aetherblade dungeon.
Then again Evon promises reduced costs for keys, which i don’t care about either, but at least he promises a better dungeon for the mists
It’s weird though that we get to decide. Lions Arch isn’t exactly democratical. The new book clearly states that to be a council member you
- need to be a captain
- have to pay a certain amount of money to the council
- be accepted by the council
Evon has money, Kiel is a captain, but neither have what it takes to become a member
Anyway that’s just me overanalyzing stuff based on the book

Well Evon could easily buy a ship and be a captain, he probably already has considering he runs a huge trading business.
I’m not too sure about Kiel or about how much money is needed, but maybe she took a lot of nice stuff from AR with her:p

Anyway, Evon seems to have the right character for this, and I missed flame and frost, so I’d love to try his dungeon, so I’m definitely an Evon supporter
I am curious though, how much are waypoint costs reduced by?

Genavelle.9516:

SynfulChaot.3169:

Coldin.2840:

SynfulChaot.3169:

Traps are, just like in Mario Kart and similiar games, only useful for extending your lead. And yes, there are brutally mean places to put them. But that is the game and how it is played.

Remember that you still can see the false power-ups and you can activate your Grounded skill to avoid getting affected by them. Which you should. And it is easy to tell the false ones. They’re the ones that are in odd places.

Yes and no?

Getting a fake powerup in Mario Kart is a bit more rare, since there’s shells and other things to get as well. In the Sprint, 1-3 place all get fake powerups. Fake powerups in Mario Kart aren’t usually as bad either, since they can rarely be placed where the player has to repeat large sections of the race.

They can be seen, but it can be difficult when moving quickly across the race. And in some places they can’t be avoided at all before you’re right on top of them (Lighting Jumps). Or if someone puts it right next to you while racing, since they become active immediately. Grounded is the best way to deal with them in my experience, but you do have to keep going out of your way to pick that up. And it’s possible to use up one grounded on a bomb, and then find another bomb before you get another.

They’re just a little too strong to give to the 1st place player every single powerup. Remove the knockdown, replace it with an immobilize, and remove the powerup removal. And then mix in some blinds for the 1st – 3rd places to pick up.

The problem is that the other ‘attack’ skills only affect those in front of you. They are 100% useless when you’re in first. So then do you give the person in front nothing?

As for fake powerup visibility? I do agree that there isn’t a whole lot you can do if they put one down on a lightning jump landing area. Other than that, though, you can always see them before you would hit them. Just gotta remember to use Grounded.

And tbh hitting a fake powerup on a lightning pad is about the same as getting hit by lightning storm while doing the lightning jumps…Basically you’re screwed either way, unless you’ve got Grounded on. And as you said, fake powerups are all someone in 1st or 2nd place really has.

I think the worst thing about fake power ups is losing all of your own power ups. That can be a very harsh penalty for people who like to use power use for the right moment (especially aspect masters for strong jumps in certain places). And I think you mean gale. Lightning storm has an animation showing you’re about to be hit, so if you see it just wait to jump.