Guild Wars 2

I couldn’t care less about housing. I give a kitten on Guild Halls. It’s just a good place to go to he jungle for free and loot the nodes.

I’d rather see more dungeons and other content than this useless crap.

With a zerker group consisting of 1-2 eles and some other standard stuff (chrono, ps warrior etc.) they go down fairly fast. A group dies within 10 seconds. So why make them easier anyway? Also, the masses do it: we usually kill most mobs in CM dungeon and after 3 paths you have quite a lot of bags and loot which give you the sought after t3-4 mats.

Sounds a lot of ‘non-raiders’ are actively fighting against going to the raid in any way. Bullheaded behaviour… just do the kitten escort. It’s really not harder than any dungeon. If you are not even willing to do that then live with it.

Imo it is unbelievable how many new items, keys etc. they introduce without giving us a collection slot or a key ring etc. Why don’t they do that? Usually my inventory of 140-160 slots is about one third to one half full with such items. It really is a huge annoyance.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

ProtoGunner.4953:

Yea… two fractals in like 3 years and both are made of assets of old content. Great stuff.

Adding assets is the least expensive part of a new dungeon. The encounters are new and I find them a lot of fun. So yes, to me, they are great stuff; sorry that you don’t like them.

It’s not that I don’t like it. It’s the fact that it’s ridiculous few content for such a long time. They advertised fractals as the 5-man content. So, no dungeons anymore and then they dare to put out a mere two fractals made of old assets.

Yea… two fractals in like 3 years and both are made of assets of old content. Great stuff.

Most dungeons are a joke with the new builds (and most were a joke before even HOT came out). But the main problem is that they seem to ignore the dungeons. They don’t even create new ones. I don’t know what the problem here is. Every MMO releases dungeons in a regular way.

First they should fix this stupid bug when they remove the mini due to large population (which imo is still ridiculous) and after the large population is gone the mini is turned off. I hate this. So annoying. And it’s a bug well known which is in the game since more than a year.

To my logic, yes you are right. Don’t know exactly how they count that. By the way, this is the wrong forum. Belongs to mesmer subforum.

I checked the expansion of a rather big competitor game, which released it a bit before GW2. HoT and their features is about 5times the stuff we have in GW2. 18(!) dungeons, 2 raids, 3 new classes, 1 new race, 9 new zones… the list goes on. And they recently announced even a new expansion… and it was cheaper. Anet, get a grip!

It’s just not there. I liked HoT while it lasted and it lasted about 3-4 months. The scarce content patches they release keeps you playing for another 2-3 hours and while nice there’s no meat on it. And this after a mere 3.5 zones… I really hope the next expansion has like thrice the content HoT has…

Imo it’s a desperate move to keep players playing the game. It’s a typical way for MMOs.

I remember selling those runes to the merch last year in masses since they were useless. I am not sure what’s sadder: the change anet made to keep players longer online (although the outrage was huge cuz 10k drinks) or the players who are willing to sacrifice tons of money and time to have some stupid snowflakes falling around you. I mean wtf!?

If you really want it so badly, ask a friend who does it for you. I think the majority of players is able to finish this, shouldn’t be that much of a problem.

I have to disagree. Just because you aren’t able or willing to do it, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be part of a decorative item. You have to live with the fact that not everything is achievable. Or are people complaining that they can’t earn the PvP legendary just because they aren’t good at PvP?

I don’t like them. They talk like mentally deficient on acid.

I hope there are significantly more maps at the beginning (6-8). Those maps should have simpler mechanics and not revolve around meta events only.

Also some dungeons, say like 4-5 new dungeons. Where is this? Every MMO gives simple and fun dungeons without any gimmicky stuff like we had on the latter iterations of dungeons.

It’s not that hard actually. Just try it. To point that out, I am probably something above average but by far not the best Jumper out there and I have never ever seen any snoflake melt under my feet. That just happens if you are super slow and there is no need to be slow, just jump straight to the next snowflake.

Also, I like if some kind of achievement (take it literally: achievement, you achieve something) is needed to make something. It is a fluff item, not needed.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

The “hero” is not always the shining star everyone respects and listens to. Sometimes in order for a character to grow, mistakes have to be made.

I absolutely agree.

Also, Braham is young, stubborn, erratic, volatile. Typical for some troubled 18-25 year olds with mother issues/complex. Why do people have such a problem for a character how he is? I mean don’t you like Game of Throes? People were terrified by characters like Joffrey or Ramsay but they also loved the show be cause of such characters.

Characters being just black or white are boring. Of course Braham is annying, but so is it in the real world. You can’t expect people acting as you wish, they are individuals with good and bad days, changing mood etc.

Also, everyone has other needs. I for example think housing is utterly boring and would never use it. Also, there are still plenty of things to do in HoT. I rushed the content there and was like playing 6-8h/day levelling the masteries to the max. I am 36, luckily no family and single but I work 100%.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

ProtoGunner.4953:

They are too expensive. Period.

Are they? Who decides when the price is too high? When it’s too low?

ProtoGunner.4953:

They 100fold in about 1.5 year in price. This can’t be good at all. The surge of coins you generate is very low and if you need any you have to either wait for months/years.

No one ‘needs’ any. The sole use of m-coins is on premium skins and a dozen or so one-time guild buffs. The surge of coins we get for free is about a stack per year, which is plenty for those of modest means. If you want more premium skins more often, I don’t see why it’s a bad thing to pay a premium.

ProtoGunner.4953:

Also wtf guys you’re talking about ‘price is about the same as last year’. The price of the coins during last Wintersday were 10-12s, it tenfold since then…

• Price during same week last year was 27-31 silver, when it spiked with the release of the new skin.
• Price hit 65-75 silver during June of this year.
• Mid-July, it was 75-86.
• Late July, it was 50-60 (it went down, when people thought it was dropping frequently from Current Events)
• In October, it hit 76-86.
• In November, it was down to 68-76.
• With the return of a fancy skin, it peaked at 93-104.
• Now it’s at 90-95.

ProtoGunner.4953:

The problem is that a lot are used for the guild hall and the new legendaries use all one stack more than the old ones. So the surge of coins is about the same as ever, but the demand is much higher. Probably also some greedy folks who hoard the coins to make money.

I would imagine that the vast majority of demand for guild halls has already happened. It’s a one-time requirement and while some guilds are still building, most have had over a year and no longer need them. What’s more likely is that the community’s psychology about m-coins has permanently altered: we are prepared to pay 80-120 silver for them now, we aren’t willing to wait for our free ones.

The only reason some of us think that’s “a lot” is that we remember the good old days when m-coins were cheap and we didn’t have to stop to think about how many we had.

I know all the arguments and they are symptomatically for the guild wars forum. The price used to be 1s for like 3 years, the economy was used to it, so that’s why I think it’s the ‘normal’ price. I just used a higher scale. If you stretch the scale to lifetime of GW2 they were 1s for a long time, now they are 1g, so 100fold.

Of course if they always were 1g we were used to it. Still they are limited, and the less people play and the more we use them the price is rising. I think it’s too high. They should do something against it.

Your argument that the coins are not needed is derives from false conclusions; this game is about cosmetics and almost every dedicated player wants them, hence the increase in price.

They are too expensive. Period. They 100fold in about 1.5 year in price. This can’t be good at all. The surge of coins you generate is very low and if you need any you have to either wait for months/years.

Also wtf guys you’re talking about ‘price is about the same as last year’. The price of the coins during last Wintersday were 10-12s, it tenfold since then… The problem is that a lot are used for the guild hall and the new legendaries use all one stack more than the old ones. So the surge of coins is about the same as ever, but the demand is much higher. Probably also some greedy folks who hoard the coins to make money.

Actually, it is possible to join/rejoin a map if you are late or disconnected. Just join a friend who is on it and try to join tons and tons of times. In the end you are able to join (actually did that 2-3 times, it always worked).

Think it’s sort of ‘balancing’ made cheap. It’s really horrible what they did with the UW combat. They basically abandoned it after they noticed how broken it is and yet – after 4 years – they still haven’t done anything significantly against it.

Yes, I followed this thread very eagerly, I am on your side btw. They made a mistake by first trying to go without expansions and now they try to recover from it. Let’s hope Expansion 2 will be a bit more compelling.

Wow guys, where do you find the time and motivation to write such long comments and discussions? It’s even hard to follow the thread it’s so long…

I don’t know but my LA map is always full of players…

DresdenAllblack.1249:

Well proto what can you do? We are what we are, a casual guild that has attempted the raids as best we can. I would rather fail with these people, than pug into a group that rinses and repeats the VG regularly.

It’s a choice we made long ago to stick it out & see what happens, for better or worse.

Yes sure, it’s okay, haven’t said anything else. As the next comment suggests the leader should call out all the necessary things. Like when to dodge out of the fields etc. The leader has an enormously important role.

After 6 Months and VG to 14-18% is rather long… Even our 2nd raid group took him down after about 2-3 weeks which consisted mostly of casuals.

The problem is that the last 10-20% are the hardest. I don’t want to shatter your dreams but if people are still getting ported away after 6 months of trying, I would question the ability of your group. Still, good luck to all of you!

It’s funny that the OP thought the precursor crafting of old legendaries is HoT content instead it was in the game before HoT even came out :-)

Wasn’t that guy the same asking how to use gliding? Some people really aren’t used to games, aren’t they…

Are people literally complaining that you have to play first 1 (one) hour (sixty minutes) to get enough XP for the basic gliding and mushroom jumping? In the worst case it takes two hours. If you don’t want to work for your character play a Moba or a shooter. (I assume the that’s why those games are so popular now.)

Devata.6589:

Behellagh.1468:

ProtoGunner.4953:

Well, everything shows the same. Sinking revenue, sinking interest (big game sites like Gamespot not even tested HoT – imagine that…). Popularity is down to nothingness, on Twitch GW2 is behind almost all major competitors. They usually get 20 views, compare that to WoW – 10 years old – with tens of thousands of viewers…

No, they misconcepted it right after release not going for expansions but living story and then decided to actually make an expansion, but only half-baked which was clearly initially though as living story releases. Then we get the expansion with only 4 maps and a high price tag. Bam! That’s why people leave. That’s why they do now everything to change that and I really, really hope they will release the next expansion next year. Otherwise even less people are returning.

Looking at Twitch right now, None EST. WoW – 15,700; Runescape – 6,100; Black Desert – 1,400;; Lineage II – 1,200; SWTOR – 750; Elder Scrolls – 530; Guild Wars 2 – 510

So we have MMOs that are old and have millions of players and ones that came out F2P this year in NA/EU. Also Twitch viewer ship for a game is very caster based as 40% of the viewers for any particular game listed above are from a single caster. If a caster’s following was built playing a particular game, of course they will continue to play that game. Also Twitch is international so games more popular outside of the NA, for instance nearly all Lineage II streams aren’t in English reflecting the fact that Lineage II isn’t popular in NA.

I think what he is saying, is that GW2 is starting to be invisible for the masses out there. It’s one of the many MMO’s that ones was a thing, instead of being one of the big MMO’s.

Of course you would prefer it to be one of the big MMO’s. Imho GW2 had the possibility to be one of those big ones, also still today. That is why I did get into GW2 and not in the many other MMO’s.

Yes, that was my point. It’s the whole recognition value of the franchise. There are a ton of Overwatch, LoL, Dota, Warcraft, Diablo etc. cosplays, jokes, memes, comics, fanart etc. Of course this doesn’t represent the reputation or the success of a game/franchise, but I don’t see anything near this from GW. GW is dead, people ask me if I tell them I play GW: ‘Oh really? This still does exist?’

If popularity is so low of course people won’t play it. It’s one of the many MMOs in the soup of MMOs and in my opinion GW deserved better. I don’t know where this comes from but maybe it has to do with the rather flat characters and non-recognizable, distinguished protagonists. It’s a shame be cause artistically GW is an absolutely stunning franchise.

As it stands GW2 has the worst elite/ultimate type of skill I have seen in this vein of games. Having played a couple of MMOs, MOBAs and Overwatch their ult is like devastating if placed right (being able to destroy the whole enemy team). Like every 2nd elite is a crapfest, take Tornado for example or Elixir X. What the hell were they thinking?

They are intentionally extremely weak since the story instances are made for solo play. If they would hit like you, you just could stand in the back and do their work – mostly.

Well, everything shows the same. Sinking revenue, sinking interest (big game sites like Gamespot not even tested HoT – imagine that…). Popularity is down to nothingness, on Twitch GW2 is behind almost all major competitors. They usually get 20 views, compare that to WoW – 10 years old – with tens of thousands of viewers…

No, they misconcepted it right after release not going for expansions but living story and then decided to actually make an expansion, but only half-baked which was clearly initially though as living story releases. Then we get the expansion with only 4 maps and a high price tag. Bam! That’s why people leave. That’s why they do now everything to change that and I really, really hope they will release the next expansion next year. Otherwise even less people are returning.

Well, according to the Wiki, there are all those bugs and they still are. Granted, if you know a few things you may prevent them from happening but in my opinion, this is just questionable. It’s the pinnacle of a story arc, the culmination of the first expansion and they managed to deliver a bugged boss fight and they managed to still not fix them.

Reading the mastery that they show to you helps. It’s written there in the game:

Mastering jungle movement will unlock the ability to hang glide to previously unreachable locations. When you train the Gliding Mastery, you’ll have the option to soar freely through the treetops, escape the dangers that await you on the jungle floor, use the air to your advantage in combat against certain foes, and save yourself from accidental death by slipping.

The OP has a point, but then again it took me like a couple of SW maps to farm. It’s a matter of a couple of hours – really…

It’s very easy as a gruadian and did it the first time. I even had 3 or 4 grub groups left. Just hop into one group. Wait until the abomination arrives in the middle of the grub group and use 3-4 traps (as guardian) or any other strong AoE skill like ele stuff etc…. done.

Lol that’s really annoying, reminds me of Zelda Majora’s Mask where you had to repeat all the stuff after the 3-day-reset.

But that’s exactly my argument: although Mordremoth and Zhaitan are ‘dead’ now we still have Undead and Mordrem roaming around. I don’t care, it’s a game. So why couldn’t they just leave parts of LS1? Like Marionette. It’s now just an empty place with nothing to do. Temporary special events like when Scarlet is roaming around in the open world are cut be cause they conflict other events etc. I understand they removed it, but why something like Marionette?

Okay, good argument. Credits for that.

I like the current system actually. But they could let us modify the UI. Since the release of GW2 Anet is extremely stubborn to let us change it. We can’t have additional side bars for food, tonics, gizmos etc. We can’t have additional weapon slots to change out of combat. We always have to open the kitten inventory. It’s so annoying. Why won’t they let us modify the GUI?

I expect end 2017. The first time around it was a decision late in development of HoT where they reacted to the people and decided to release those assets as an expansion. First they tried out different models with living world only. That didn’t work out as expected. Hence I think it won’t take 3 years for one expansion.

Let’s make something new: A video with in game music and a normal character. I am pretty sure that thin anime-like ladies aren’t the only played characters by speed runners/solo players.

I already told that. It’s also unfair to have no Marionette. Your logic makes really no sense at all.

According your logic it’s okay to have Orr in an infinite time loop whereas – only be cause Marionette was part of LS1 – it would be illicit to have Marionette still there.

Games mostly make no sense anyways. You kill the same bosses over and over. So why not just let the boss be there for newer players to do. Why remove content? But that’s an old topic.

That’s why they shake things a bit up. They noticed that six dragons is too much and as it seems they try to get them done as fast as possible as seen in the new story. Jormag and Primordus will fight each other somehow

Astralaria was my first 2nd gen and imo it is one of the most detailed and complex legendary. The amount of detail if you zoom like 10 cm in front of it is insane. No other legendary I have (7 and counting so far) is so detailed.

Why did they remove Marionette anyways? Of course it was part of season 1 and history wise it got destroyed, but then again why do we still have undead roaming whole Orr?

They just could’ve made her permanently like triple trouble etc.

There should absolutely be lore/story item inventory. It sucks really, my first 40 slots are usually crammed with such items.