Guild Wars 2

haviz.1340:

Fox.3469:

because you are making things up to prove your point

Lupi could be solo’d before the patch, you can’t reach him anymore btw, he’s a pretty straight forward boss when being alone, the more players the more unpredictable he becomes.

There is no thing as a good glass cannon player, good players boon up their party, increasing all dps and survivability, making the party go allot faster with allot less downtime.

You got me, I’m just a fabulist.

What getting to lupi has anything to do with ability to solo him? Your party may wait till you do it.

Glass cannon != 5 signet wars without any utility. You misunderstand the concept of glass cannon. It’s not a selfish build. It’s a build where your gear doesn’t grant you any survivability but superior damage. You still have utility skills and traits to fill in.

Precisely. Boons and support don’t require survival gear, anything can be done glass cannon, and always better because more damage.

This is a DPS game.

Kromica.2831:

skittlebob.4850:

Kromica.2831:

Apathy.6430:

Arnath.2319:

So sadly i have a horrible feeling we will be very bored till late January, maybe even the very last week of January, and this “2 huge patches” was a lie.

Then play a different game in the mean time.

Not like you gotta play off your subscription.

Sadly there are no other mmos worth playing now or anytime soon.

Why limit yourself to mmos? There are so great stories to be discovered single player

I personally can’t justify spending $40-$60 on the 12-20 hours that most sp games are these days, better things to buy.

This hasn’t been true for YEARS. 12-20 hours is ridiculously low, try playing skyrim… you will be at 100+ hours in no time because it’s like meth and even more fun (and healthy) to be on.

Just choose the appropriate sandbox RPGs, fallout series and elder scrolls are a must.

I brought this up before and a bunch of casual idiots just trolled claiming achievements are pixels blah blah.

It’s an obvious flaw and makes achievement points completely worthless, my point was in WoW having 14k achieve showed you played for years, raided, collected mounts, pets, took part in events, etc. and you can even view peoples accomplishments.

ANet just doesn’t get it. At all.

Some guy even posted he had 11k points (1month after game release) by mass salvaging or w/e. They mean nothing in this game, and you’re wasting your time getting them because someone else can get far more by exploiting a stupid infinite reward for them.

Dondarrion.2748:

Think he refers to those ‘Special Loot Bags’ you got in your inventory as dungeon completion reward. And based on their caption, the reward was not at all living up to expectations… some random green kitten that went straight into the mystic forge. Honestly think I recall getting a yellow out, so paid off in the end, but felt like a tiny slap in the face getting 3 greens after completing Arah story.

Working as intended.

Karizee.8076:

They’ve got a handful of busy servers, the rest are clearly dead and/or dying.
You cannot deny that! Everyone knows it, it’s the laughingstock of the gaming world.

Well now you’re just trolling with false information, shoulda seen it from the start. Happy trails, my good sir

Karizee.8076:

Rukia.4802:

Karizee.8076:

Khemizt.5104:

several million more people play wow lol….

In China maybe

But it’s clear in the western world players said “No” to Pandas and are now playing GW2.

WoW is still thriving in the west, I still play as well and disagree’d with panda. Just ignore them and continue playing my human.. not hard. Just how I ignore the worgen, Blizz adds horrible races to their game but it’s still a great MMO. I still expect them to add faries and vampires… lul

Their ocean of dead servers says otherwise

My old server was called Medium in Cata was really a Low and they are now calling it High and it has half the guilds raiding as it did in Cata, LOL.

From the number of wowkids trying to recruit players from the GW2 forums it’s pretty clear where the players are these days.

Because posting in a forum indicates I am not playing…. well I’m not sure what to say what with your infallible logic and all.

Anyway, their servers aren’t dead. Cata was horrible, MoP is much better and subs are back up, this is literally a fact. My guild also died down in Cata, but I haven’t had so much fun raiding since Wotlk in MoP.

At least in WoW there are things to do and I get rewarded for doing them. Oh BURN and I haven’t seen anyone try recruiting, just making comparisons with a dying MMO and a thriving one. Don’t get mad bro…

Even Cata is 10x better than current GW2.

Ansultares.1567:

Rukia.4802:

^You don’t get my point dude, I am not saying support doesn’t exist, but that you can do ALL of that in a full on DPS spec. Everything you mentioned has nothing to do with being specced defensive lol.

Why do you assume I responded to you, and not the person I quote?

You posted right before I did lol I didn’t wanna quote his wall of text

^You don’t get my point dude, I am not saying support doesn’t exist, but that you can do ALL of that in a full on DPS spec. Everything you mentioned has nothing to do with being specced defensive lol.

Karizee.8076:

Khemizt.5104:

several million more people play wow lol….

In China maybe

But it’s clear in the western world players said “No” to Pandas and are now playing GW2.

WoW is still thriving in the west, I still play as well and disagree’d with panda. Just ignore them and continue playing my human.. not hard. Just how I ignore the worgen, Blizz adds horrible races to their game but it’s still a great MMO. I still expect them to add faries and vampires… lul

2h battleaxe make a char named Gilius Thunderhead.

If anything, I’d love to see dual Katar for thief, with far less boring spam 2 button rotations, more of a combo style like GW1 sin.

BlackPaw.5948:

I want Gauntlets, Katar, Book,

Guardian + Guantlets = Win
Thief + Katar = Win
Ele + Book = Win

ah you beat me to it

No tanks, no healers. Just DPS.

Selo.1250:

GW2 wont die, but it dropped a major chunk becouse of lack of content and character/gear progression. Then another big chunk of the casual players still playing when they added fractals.

GW2 will have a playerbase around GW1 size, differance is a mammoth like GW2 requires alot more resources to keep up then GW1

Exactly, in GW1 we have the resources to entertain ourselves. But in GW2 with the lack of variety in builds ANet is going to have to keep adding massive amounts of content JUST to keep people interested.

It’s a really bad design because people will be expecting a ton or simply get bored like many already have.

hildegain.2106:

Mirta.5029:

Yaki.9563:

Mirta.5029:

Rukia.4802:

There is only 1 spec in this game and that’s DPS.

ALL classes benefit from condition damage (Guardians can use fire that never runs out while outliving you, warriors can out damage dps with cond, mesmers and engineers benefit greatly from it too). Elementalists are awesome at healing. Not everything comes down to DPS you know.

Yes it pretty much does. If the players are skilled enough, you can do away with almost all of the “healing” and “group support” BS and just go straight up max DPS. Support is only helpful for those who aren’t at that stage yet.

Max DPS means a glass cannon build and oh how I love seeing people like that die.

Oh how I love some noob saying that skillful players choose a glass cannon build, oh dear that made me lol so much XD

I think Yaki should see how far glass cannon gets you when you have 2-3 people to fight and then watch that guardian, elemental or mesmer who went for survivability kick some serious kitten in a long haul fight.

Actually it’s mostly boons that keeps them alive. Guardians are best at this, glass cannon is absolutely the best route to take when you are familiar with the game. More DPS simply means you kill mobs and bosses faster, healing is pointless because it scales terribly, and you can heal to full with a combo field from a water ele REGARDLESS of how she is specced with a thief using SB.

So tell me more about how your defensive builds are oh so good in this game lol really give me a break.

Glass cannon simply rules, l2dodge and you won’t fail. It’s a 1s immunity to all dmg and a boring mechanic. If dodge didn’t exist, then yes, defensive builds would be ideal in the group.

There is only 1 spec in this game and that’s DPS.

Spvp is most definitely dead, well because it’s the only form of pvp other than WvW and has 1 mode to play. It got old after a billion matches of the same thing and not being able to enter as a party is very lame to a lot of people, simply the WORD tournament will turn many away, and that’s the only way to go in as a group.

Until they add more modes it will remain a ghost town, not to mention pvp in GW2 is the worst balance I ever seen. It’s like everyone is a vanilla WoW rogue, lawl.

I haven’t logged in at least a month as well, don’t need to check to see because nothing has changed. This was a problem a long time ago.

critickitten.1498:

lothefallen.7081:

In reality though, it is a bad thing because it forces homogenization and lack of engagement from the skill system and encounter design. When you have to dumb down a game for a very liberal, casual-feeding structure, no one really wins.

People keep saying that there is no variation to this game, that everyone is the same. The only way someone can claim this is by creating an alternate universe for themselves in which this is true. There is plenty of build variation, and plenty of class diversity. The fact that any class can build themselves as a glass cannon, or as a tank, or even a support or healer type, is honestly rather astonishing and allows players to enjoy the diversity of a game with multiple classes while still playing the classes in a variety of ways.

Second, “casual” is not a synonym for “easy” and I do wish that gamers would properly educate themselves on the meanings of these terms. “Casual” refers to a time commitment, not a difficulty setting.

Except being a glass cannon is the most efficient for any setting in this game, so being tanky or healy is completely pointless because they are not DEDICATED.

What is the point in being something that is going to be totally half-kitten’d? Honest question here, because the only dedicated roll you can be in this game is DPS.

Oh btw, you are wrong about GW1 being the same. It both had dedicated healing and tanking builds.

I guess if you never played another MMO I can see how GW2 is amazing to you

But no lol.

The problem is you can’t trade so you’re forced to use TP or grind yourself.

GW2 is so revolutionary is took away some of the most basic, fundamental mechanics of MMO’s.

In WoW I can simply go to trade chat and offer up on my own terms instead of putting in requests on the TP and playing the waiting game and you never get deals on what you’re trying to buy because the market is so screwed.

The market is way too player controlled, too easily inflated, too unfair for people with lives that actually wanna play the game.

critickitten.1498:

And you may notice that most of GW1’s major balance issues tended to revolve around spam-able elite skills. This is, strangely enough, not a mere coincidence.

I’d honestly rather have them rare and powerful, than to have them frequent and weak.

I’d be fine with shorter cooldowns. But spam-able? Hell no.

Yet GW1 still balanced than GW2 lol, plus we had hundreds of skills to play with. And I don’t think spammable means what you think it means. GW2 autoattack would be an example of spamming.

Looks like almost 1900 badges of honor for a full set. You will be at it for a while….

Kain Francois.4328:

Sadly, it feels like a different team manages GW2.

Because it IS a different team, they are much larger now, and making all the wrong moves.

They got too big too fast and I am convinced that most of the original makers of GW1 don’t even work there anymore. There is just too much new blood, look at GW2 and tell me it’s the same people that made GW1. No freaking way in hell.

That would be like saying D3 was made by Blizzard North the same people that made D2. We all know that ain’t true, even though they are both still made by Blizzard.

I think the mist walker set is a pvp only or it costs tokens in WvW.

Rustypipes.6238:

You could make up a back story to your lengendary that fits around the character who is using it.

You know, be creative, use your imagination.

Oh yes… great solution, we should all just play boring games because making up our own story is much more creative.

Jaxon.5392:

Agree. That’s why I would really like if the last thing you do for your legendary is a quest. Where you have to do a tricky JP and fight your way through this mini story to get to an alter or forge or someone who will tell you a story, you hand them the 4 items and you get a beautiful cinematic of being handed and wielding your legendary. Imagine a dragon or something crazy like that forging and giving you your legendary. That’d be sweet.
Man, if they had done programming time on that instead of the Lost Shores Event I think the community would be a lot happier.

Exactly, love WoW for this reason: since I am rogue unfortunately, we helped my friend mage get his legendary and a bunch of dragons spawned above our main city and it was a pretty epic scene, the entire town knew when you got that staff lol plus there is always lore behind them & not to mention they aren’t a mindless grind like in GW2.

I also got my legendary daggers that expac but it wasn’t as cool as the staff

Legendaries got ZERO love in this game

Holy necro, batman! I also love how these issues are still a problem (including culling LOL)

2month old thread.

HiddenNick.7206:

ShinraGuardian.8053:

You probably don’t play WoW to the extend of end-game raiding.

99.999% of WoW encounters have mindless cooldown mechanic. Raids are just a tiny part of all game encounters. And still… They aren’t so complicated as you would like them to be. Also there are available only for very limited part of population.

May I see your armory, since you must have cleared all those mindless encounters to have such knowledge

So, anyone here actually played WoW or all just mindless GW2 fanboys? I’m so tired of seeing such silly troll posts :/

They are not much different than every other class, bland and boring with a 5skill bar.

Only if they remove DR and give more skill customization, add a dedicated healer option

In reality: No.

scootshoot.6583:

My 10 fps in mass battles is what’s stopping me. Have decided to run scout and supply missions instead which becomes very boring thus my time in WvW has drastically declined.

This single game is not worth a 300+ dollar investment in a new motherboard and I5-I7 cpu although reading the tech forums those with such systems aren’t getting that much better performance anyways (bang for buck theory) as all my other games run flawlessly with my X4 955 cpu.

Same here, it’s ridiculous.

I agree with OP but it’s pointless to argue with blind fanboys. They’ll throw things around that they’ve never experienced as fact, as if they’ve EVER ran a heroic raid, or actually believe their friend when he tells them he bots heroic raids lol. (Hint: Not possible)

Anyway, ANet won’t change this horrible game. It’ll bite them soon enough if it hasn’t already. When they lose their playerbase maybe something will finally change for the better like removing DR and stop punishing their own playerbase, adding true tactics to fights instead of LOLDODGESKILL

I’d have to write a 100 page essay just to explain all the tactics in different fights in WoW, all GW2 has is oneshot mechanics and dodge you get to work with, not to mention no defined roles so it’s just mindless zerg.

Kacigarka.5176:

Rukia.4802:

ANet have obviously never played MMO’s like WoW where acquiring legendary weapons actually have you out doing a raid and a legendary quest line instead of simply grinding 24/7 oh and having DR in the game just immediately makes me think they want us to just bot and afk and the other obvious motive getting us into the gem store.

If you want to craft a Legendary weapon you have to play every aspect of the game. WvW, dungeons, events …

In WoW all you have to do is RAID … nothing else

So first think about what you post WoW example is really bad …

Think before you post because you have no clue what you’re even talking about. Legendary was actually fun in WoW, it’s nothing but grind in GW2 so please don’t even speak unless you’ve actually played both games kkthx.

You totally missed the part where you’re actually on a QUEST to get the legendary, which has its own unique story and epicness to it. Hell getting my daggers in cataclysm was truly legendary I enjoyed it very much and only one part I had to raid with my actual guild which was also fun ( who doesn’t love raiding? )

ASB.4295:

Rukia.4802:

DR is anti-farm/anti-loot/ANets version of a raid lock not anti-bot

You’re a long time gw1 player, right? How would you compare the effect the introduction of DR in gw2 has to the addition of anti farm code and loot scaling in gw1? Is the relative amount of loot reduction comparable?

Sure it’s comparable but it’s not even close to DR in GW2. Also, GW1 was actually fun and I spent far less time trying to farm and instead played the game with friends.

However when I did farm, I didn’t need to 24/7 because I actually GOT LOOT! Meaning I never hit the DR before I moved on.

DR wouldn’t be so bad if loot tables were drastically increased. Or simply remove DR and add insanely low drop rates for extremely rare items like WoW does cuz that works too.

Limiting your playerbase by both crappy drop rate and DR literally feels like a slap in the face, and I know this term is thrown around a lot but I also feel like ANet is spitting in my face telling me DON’T PLAY OUR GAME HURRHURR WE’RE STUPID!

ANet doesn’t support RP, if you want a great community for that WoW is a good place to start although beware the trollz

ShaiHulud.7410:

I don’t mind this system really. It clearly is implemented for anti-botting and ArenaNet is doing a grea job in regards to it.

I just want to know how to I get rid of it, that’s all.

Because at this point, I am in a dead circle. I cannot continue my hunt for my legendary since my income is now reduced drastically and as I’ve said: doing dungeons, moving zones, doing different meta events also doesn’t help.

So maybe an Arena Net employee could help us with a reply in regards to this issue.

Thank you

How can you possibly think DR is to prevent botting when it’s clearly aimed at legit players? It’s affecting you, isn’t it? Yet it’s not affecting bots who aren’t on a time schedule and don’t give a crap.

DR is anti-farm/anti-loot/ANets version of a raid lock not anti-bot

ANet have obviously never played MMO’s like WoW where acquiring legendary weapons actually have you out doing a raid and a legendary quest line instead of simply grinding 24/7 oh and having DR in the game just immediately makes me think they want us to just bot and afk and the other obvious motive getting us into the gem store.

Legendary do have higher stats afaik but not a huge increase

Zogyark.4597:

I don’t really think there’s a problem, it’s pretty normal for people to just get bored with a game after a while, specially after putting over 500 hrs into it.

Not usually in an MMO ….

otherwise why would you even buy it, they are for long term playing obviously… an ever expanding online world?

Black Regent.5897:

I’d really rather just pay a subscription fee….

It’s not as bad as LOTRO’s messed up pay to win model yet but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s headed there…

Vouch. I get the same feeling when it comes to gold in this game.

Videshi.5371:

“Swearing provides a relief denied even to prayer” – Mark Twain

That being said… I love when people substitute “kitten” for swear words. It’s funny as a motherkitten.

Kitten you, you son of a kitten!

I am still playing GW1, 2 is boring as hell and ANet is a different company these days.

Hellkaiser.6025:

The profanity filter is NOT an excuse to swear in a repeated and overdone manner which lowers the level of maturity of the ingame chat, swearing is awesome and I don’t want it banned it’s just part of life and whatnot but swearing REPEATEDLY and in an OVER THE TOP manner in an IN GAME CHAT is like being that irritatingly foul mouthed child with voice control issues that everyone wishes would just shut the heck up or be dealt with by their parent, you may as well be shouting at traffic if you overdo it because you just look insane.

I think you’re over reacting and with the filter on you won’t even see them swear.

…did you learn the shout of monuments? :p

shambo.3842:

I wouldn’t mind having something like that either. but if they did do something like this all the forum crybabys would be making post like, its not fair I cant play at that time blah blah blah whine whine whine want free stuff didn’t get free stuff whine some more

No.. we had drop bonuses and such in GW1 for years and I never once saw a post to complain about it lol other than schedule screw ups.

Swearing is not a problem, the profanity filter is there for a reason. Harassment, however, is a different story.

If they wanted to copy diablo they could have done it right and make high quality gear have MF on it without affecting other stat’s, MF being a “major” is just silly as hell. It’s way too much of a stat reduction.

Erasculio.2914:

Ath.2531:

Farming is not grinding.

Farming is exactly the same as grinding. It’s as mindless, as easy and as pointless. They also catter to the same kind of person, who wants “time > skill” due to an inability of dealing with “skill > time”.

Lol okay… not sure if trolling or…

Welcome to MMO’s though, bro.

Gem store > Buy Gems > Convert into gold

Or just in case you’re not incredibly, insanely rich in real life, the more realistic route would be to buy from some Chinese gold seller.

kRiza krimos.1637:

come x get x some.5648:

kRiza krimos.1637:

Nuka Cola.8520:

In gw1 you did fowsc/uwsc. In gw2 they want you to farm gem store. They don’t want you to make money, that’s the secret. Everything is acc bound/souldbound on use so you don’t sell and make money. Drop sucks in general and there’s no end dungeon unique skins like Crystalline/Eternal swords were, which you could sell and make tones of money. Here this doesn’t exist… that’s why everyone is ******* about gw2’s drops and is unrewarding. The fact that i have nothing to grind for skin OR money doesn’t make me want to log in at all cuz what exactly could i be doing? Nothing to do.

So crystaline sword was less rare than precursors are now? Im not sure what are you talking about. Every high-end chest has chance for named exotic, alot of them for precursors so everything you do gives you chance to have big gain, just like back then you had SMALL chance to get crystaline sword.
You are talking about gw1, so tell me did obsidian armor costed less than legendary is costing now? You didnt have to grind UW / FoW for ages to collect all ectos and shards? Green weapons were dirt cheap so boss farming was pointless even without DR, which existed back then too.
In the end, if there is nothing for you to do in GW2 find new game to move on, after few months spread hate on forums of that new game then move on again, and again…

wtf are you talking about? spread hate? lol if you say so.
so tell me why alots and i mean alots of ppl think like me?
in GW1 u could sell everything. even something that worth 1silver.

it took me half year to get 2 full obsi armor sets wtf are u talking about?
every UW farm (10min top) ive got like 4-5 ectos + if u do full run u can get from the chest eternal blade and from FoW u can get obsidian edge.

in DoA u could farm some stones and sell them aswell
even the green weapon u get from bosses u could sell for like 4-20s

dont tell me to go to other game,i played gw1 for 6 years. i have a reason that i play this one aswell but ye the drop rate its a joke and all that soulbound,account bound its a joke.

Out of curiosity, what did you do in gw1 for 6 years? Farmed UW /Fow? What was there so magnificent in gw1 content that held your attention for 6 years?
Only way you could hang with gw1 for 6 years is pvp, doing HA or GvG which has nothing to do with even smaller amount of content and bigger amount of doing same stuff.
You probably can make 2 obsi sets in 6 months but then that is all you do. Farming UW/FoW for 6 months is fun and not grindy but gw2 is all about grind right? lol

I cant tell you to go to other game, but i can suggest you to do so since you already said there is nothing to do in gw2…

If ALL you do is grind FoW/UW SC then that would definitely get boring but I also have pvp’d all these years and VQ with friends. I have gone back and done missions countless times to help newbies and I still do, log into GW1 and go to a starting mission there are guarantee’d to be players that are wanting help.

I have spent years trying to solo (and accomplishing) some elite dungeons with heroes & henchmen, very challenging and requires a lot of micro managing.

Is this the case in GW2? No. GW2 is like a single player game trying to be an MMO, there are not even set roles other than DPS. You know I find it funny that GW1 was not generally accepted as a true MMO from outside sources, yet it is far more an MMO than GW2 ever will be.

It was a very cooperative, team based game. EVERYTHING was done as a team. Whether or not you were with players, heroes, or henchmen, you were never alone (aside from solo farming ofc).

That, and Build Wars is what gave the game longevity, and what makes it still replayable to this day. Playing with friends never gets old imo, and GW1 is by and far one of the very best games for doing exactly that.

Not to mention vanquishing always gave you something to do, maxing titles, capping skills, farming which wasn’t nerfed into oblivion like in GW2.

And when you wanna do content yourself? No problem, load up some heroes, customize their builds and equipment to synergize whatever playstyle you feel like.

True customization is what has had me playing all these years along with friends and great combat that is truly strategic, not loldodge twitch based.

But Mesmer has always been about da purple fuzz…

TheDaiBish.9735:

Rukia.4802:

Curae.1837:

I admit that it would be nice if achievement points had more to them than bragging rights
Was thinking about it earlier already, why not have some exclusive skins or something that you can buy if you get x amount of achievement points..?

Well that wouldn’t fix the problem because using methods like mass-salvaging would be extremely easy and those skins wouldn’t be very special.

The problem is those infinitely resetting achievements.

It would if you needed the Achievement first.

Getting the Achievement unlocks the skin, and then the points are currency.

True. In WoW I get special mounts, pets, titles and such for certain achievements.