Guild Wars 2

Khisanth.2948:

Ryou.2398:

Man! Map chat on your server doesnt sound pleasent, but to be honest I cant say its been much better on my server lately, but there is one thing I want to share, there are allot of selfish players around but thats in general of mmorpgs lately, however there are also many people jump into this game never knowing much about guilds and such, this is why everyone needs to understand the rules.

The concept of server doesn’t really apply for PvE anymore with the Megaserver system.

Actually it still kind of does you still primarily go to fhe server you choose when you first create a character.

As others said its lacking, I would prefer it to be faster, it will help me bring the buff quicker to protect your team and help in pvp.

STIHL.2489:

Ryou.2398:

STIHL.2489:

Ryou.2398:

STIHL.2489:

Ryou.2398:

STIHL.2489:

Ryou.2398:

deSade.9437:

Henry.5713:

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Just don’t be a kitten – don’t ask disingenuous, insinuating questions (“Why didn’t you do x [you stoopid scrub]?”) and don’t challenge people you don’t know, because you have no idea how they’re going to respond.
Sometimes people take comments lightly, sometimes they don’t; if you want to minimise unpredictable reactions from strangers, keep your godkitten mouth shut.

I disagree if your to insecure you cannot handle a healthy opinion or criticism then you have no business being online period, how can you handle holding down a job and going out in the world if you cannot handle a comment like that in a game?

Now if your rude about it thats another story, but really if you care about what everyone else thinks then your life will be really hard, its one thing to listen to take criticism as something that might be true about you and another to let everyone else control how you feel.

Do you actually go around in real life blurting out unsolicited advice at your co-workers and random people?

Well no, but when your in a group your also spending not only your time but others peoples time as well, so if for some reason someone is hindering the group then yea id say its fine to give them some healthy advice, also people give advice in the game and forums all the time what is so different when your in a group?

And actually I do give random advice at times in rl and guess what people dont usually get offended because I can do it without sounded like a jerk. Like I said if thats something people find offensive then the issue is with them.

First, since you support giving unsolicited advice, here is some unsolicited advice. If you are in a guild group, and no one else has an issue with how one of their guild mates is playing, then don’t worry about it, if they wanted your advice on how to play, they would ask for it.

Now, let me ask, how does that advice make you feel?

You seem to disagree with all the advice that everyone else has unanimously given on the subject, and it seems you don’t like being told how to act, now, take that feeling, put that in the game, and apply that to being told how to play, and it should become clear why people don’t welcome unsolicited advice.

There is big difference between being offended by advice and disagreeing with it, you missed the point entirely. Like I said, some people just need to grow thicker skin, there are many people out there would prefer to know something they may be doing that is causing problems for themselves or others, yes this is a game setting and if they want to play a certain way thats fine to but people should still be aware of the other ways as well just so they know.

It seems that you are missing the whole issue, you think people get offended or their feelings got hurt by unsolicited advice, nothing could be further from the truth, to hurt someone’s feeling, they need to care what you think of them, and that’s the whole point why no one likes unsolicited advice, they don’t respect that person enough to value their input, hence why they didn’t ask for it to start with.

So, what’s easier to do mid dungeon/fractal, Kick them and hope they can learn the lesson on their own, or waste the time trying to educate them in a polite enough way as to not start some ego kittening contest, that if you wanted their advice, you would have asked.

Actually people are insecure and get offended that’s why they get kicked there aren’t many people who value anyone’s opinions these days abd that’s part of the problem becauze people want to pretend they can do no wrong let’s not pretend it has to do with how well they know thw person, you kids barely listen to your family or friends these days anyways.

And yes advice has worked for plenty of people, just because you have a problem with ir doesnt mean everyone else doe.

LOL “kids”, bet I’m older then you. I had already graduated college, and was working a full time job when EQ came out in 1999.

Yep I started with eq as well late 1999.

NosShark.9732:

Honestly, I never would have posted anything, but this really got to me today. As a small guild leader of 18, and a guild level of 25, we aren’t really even on the radar for anyone, but we have worked hard to achieve what we have already done. As a smaller guild we do ask for help in open map from time to time with missions from others, and usually there is always a good response, especially from members of larger guilds, but sometimes things don’t go as planned. Today seemed to be the worst it has gotten.

Today, I decided to run a low level bounty, I knew I couldn’t do it on my own, so I did what we normally do and posted in map chat. This has always worked in the past for us. Today though, things went differently. Today I was berated by fellow players just for asking.

“Why would you do that to your guild members, Why can’t you all get on to do it together, All you are doing is taking the chances away from them, Why would you be with such a bad guild if you have no one to help you, Trashy guilds like that should be banned, Why don’t you get with a real guild who is worth it?”… Each time I tried to answer or explain, I just got hammered again, which to me was a bit rude. Normally the rudeness of others doesn’t bother me, and normally I would have blasted back at the person, but nothing I said mattered and the comments about our guild really hit home.

We all have our own reasons for our guilds, some for simple reasons, others for very personal reasons, but there is always a reason of some sort. We help others if and when we can, and only ask others if we truly can’t do it on our own. Our guild was founded by a very kind and helpful man, both in game and in RL. Sadly tho, he died a couple months before GW2’s first anniversary. He was a role model and adopted father to me, as well as a godfather to 2 of my children. We chose to continue to work the guild in his name, and do our best to make it flourish. Most of our members are either family or very close friends, 7 of whom live in the same home. So to be called a trashy or bad guild is very insulting, we do our best to work hard at it. We aren’t always able to be in game, either from working long hours or school or sleep even, but still we try and do our best. Not being able to be there as a guild often means we have to be creative to get stuff done, missions completed, upgrades finished, etc.

There are many small guilds, like ours, that try, and yes even some that fail, but we, as a guild, commend you all for the effort you have put in. We, as a guild, will still push forward, and will reach top guild level someday, with a master scribe even (that may take some time tho). None the less, I plan to keep trying, and keeping working hard for my guild. I will not give up, neither will my small guild of so few.

Man! Map chat on your server doesnt sound pleasent, but to be honest I cant say its been much better on my server lately, but there is one thing I want to share, there are allot of selfish players around but thats in general of mmorpgs lately, however there are also many people jump into this game never knowing much about guilds and such, this is why everyone needs to understand the rules.

I am truly sorry to hear about your friend.

Now I know your guild isnt like this but this but this is something many people should apply in guilds that ive noticed actually dont do, you can still be laid back and casual with the simple rules im going to list. If I ran a guild I would of some rules like this, basically help the guild and help each other, the guild is helping you so you do need to help your guild. If they do not ever comply then you send an email asking to cooperate a bit more, then if they still dont you give the boot.

Also what day do you guys do guild missions? Id be happy to help out, seriously I have plenty of guild slots.

STIHL.2489:

Ryou.2398:

STIHL.2489:

Ryou.2398:

STIHL.2489:

Ryou.2398:

deSade.9437:

Henry.5713:

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Just don’t be a kitten – don’t ask disingenuous, insinuating questions (“Why didn’t you do x [you stoopid scrub]?”) and don’t challenge people you don’t know, because you have no idea how they’re going to respond.
Sometimes people take comments lightly, sometimes they don’t; if you want to minimise unpredictable reactions from strangers, keep your godkitten mouth shut.

I disagree if your to insecure you cannot handle a healthy opinion or criticism then you have no business being online period, how can you handle holding down a job and going out in the world if you cannot handle a comment like that in a game?

Now if your rude about it thats another story, but really if you care about what everyone else thinks then your life will be really hard, its one thing to listen to take criticism as something that might be true about you and another to let everyone else control how you feel.

Do you actually go around in real life blurting out unsolicited advice at your co-workers and random people?

Well no, but when your in a group your also spending not only your time but others peoples time as well, so if for some reason someone is hindering the group then yea id say its fine to give them some healthy advice, also people give advice in the game and forums all the time what is so different when your in a group?

And actually I do give random advice at times in rl and guess what people dont usually get offended because I can do it without sounded like a jerk. Like I said if thats something people find offensive then the issue is with them.

First, since you support giving unsolicited advice, here is some unsolicited advice. If you are in a guild group, and no one else has an issue with how one of their guild mates is playing, then don’t worry about it, if they wanted your advice on how to play, they would ask for it.

Now, let me ask, how does that advice make you feel?

You seem to disagree with all the advice that everyone else has unanimously given on the subject, and it seems you don’t like being told how to act, now, take that feeling, put that in the game, and apply that to being told how to play, and it should become clear why people don’t welcome unsolicited advice.

There is big difference between being offended by advice and disagreeing with it, you missed the point entirely. Like I said, some people just need to grow thicker skin, there are many people out there would prefer to know something they may be doing that is causing problems for themselves or others, yes this is a game setting and if they want to play a certain way thats fine to but people should still be aware of the other ways as well just so they know.

It seems that you are missing the whole issue, you think people get offended or their feelings got hurt by unsolicited advice, nothing could be further from the truth, to hurt someone’s feeling, they need to care what you think of them, and that’s the whole point why no one likes unsolicited advice, they don’t respect that person enough to value their input, hence why they didn’t ask for it to start with.

So, what’s easier to do mid dungeon/fractal, Kick them and hope they can learn the lesson on their own, or waste the time trying to educate them in a polite enough way as to not start some ego kittening contest, that if you wanted their advice, you would have asked.

Actually people are insecure and get offended that’s why they get kicked there aren’t many people who value anyone’s opinions these days abd that’s part of the problem becauze people want to pretend they can do no wrong let’s not pretend it has to do with how well they know thw person, you kids barely listen to your family or friends these days anyways.

And yes advice has worked for plenty of people, just because you have a problem with ir doesnt mean everyone else doe.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Not everyone wants to play piano with their keyboard. That’s what elementalists and engineers are there for.

Some people prefer more streamlined and relaxing mechanics, and having both weapon swap and legend swap is already enough.

So you get to decide what classes aren’t piano players? Why only two classes out of the many? That’s bit unfair there are plenty who wish to play piano as well beyond being just a ranged character.

STIHL.2489:

Ryou.2398:

STIHL.2489:

Ryou.2398:

deSade.9437:

Henry.5713:

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Just don’t be a kitten – don’t ask disingenuous, insinuating questions (“Why didn’t you do x [you stoopid scrub]?”) and don’t challenge people you don’t know, because you have no idea how they’re going to respond.
Sometimes people take comments lightly, sometimes they don’t; if you want to minimise unpredictable reactions from strangers, keep your godkitten mouth shut.

I disagree if your to insecure you cannot handle a healthy opinion or criticism then you have no business being online period, how can you handle holding down a job and going out in the world if you cannot handle a comment like that in a game?

Now if your rude about it thats another story, but really if you care about what everyone else thinks then your life will be really hard, its one thing to listen to take criticism as something that might be true about you and another to let everyone else control how you feel.

Do you actually go around in real life blurting out unsolicited advice at your co-workers and random people?

Well no, but when your in a group your also spending not only your time but others peoples time as well, so if for some reason someone is hindering the group then yea id say its fine to give them some healthy advice, also people give advice in the game and forums all the time what is so different when your in a group?

And actually I do give random advice at times in rl and guess what people dont usually get offended because I can do it without sounded like a jerk. Like I said if thats something people find offensive then the issue is with them.

First, since you support giving unsolicited advice, here is some unsolicited advice. If you are in a guild group, and no one else has an issue with how one of their guild mates is playing, then don’t worry about it, if they wanted your advice on how to play, they would ask for it.

Now, let me ask, how does that advice make you feel?

You seem to disagree with all the advice that everyone else has unanimously given on the subject, and it seems you don’t like being told how to act, now, take that feeling, put that in the game, and apply that to being told how to play, and it should become clear why people don’t welcome unsolicited advice.

There is big difference between being offended by advice and disagreeing with it, you missed the point entirely. Like I said, some people just need to grow thicker skin, there are many people out there would prefer to know something they may be doing that is causing problems for themselves or others, yes this is a game setting and if they want to play a certain way thats fine to but people should still be aware of the other ways as well just so they know.

I dont know man revenant just screams greatsword melee attacks with some ranged thrown in.

Hey all just to update I went with revenant, thanks for all the information all!

Kex.9318:

Hello guys,after 10 months of absence and not playing gw2 i bought HoT,I have elementalist lvl 80,can you recommend me which class should I boost to lvl 80 ? Thank you!

Let me ask you something, do you not like leveling in this game after only one character?

If you dont mind leveling then why spend it on an 80 boost? I think one would rather spend it on a class they wont enjoy leveling.

Vinceman.4572:

Ryou.2398:

deSade.9437:

Henry.5713:

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Just don’t be a kitten – don’t ask disingenuous, insinuating questions (“Why didn’t you do x [you stoopid scrub]?”) and don’t challenge people you don’t know, because you have no idea how they’re going to respond.
Sometimes people take comments lightly, sometimes they don’t; if you want to minimise unpredictable reactions from strangers, keep your godkitten mouth shut.

I disagree if your to insecure you cannot handle a healthy opinion or criticism then you have no business being online period, how can you handle holding down a job and going out in the world if you cannot handle a comment like that in a game?

Now if your rude about it thats another story, but really if you care about what everyone else thinks then your life will be really hard, its one thing to listen to take criticism as something that might be true about you and another to let everyone else control how you feel.

The thing is people actually don’t care about handling comments or think/don’t think about criticism in daily runs. Because it’s a game not the real world and if you just want to get your fractal content done (which is not very hard) many players won’t need any advice or smart a_sses who know better even though they are doing minor mistakes after a hard day of work or so.
“Healthy opinions” LOL – That could be a broad spectrum and isn’t always clear for everyone. So, it’s better to shut up instead of saying anything that can be turned against you. Believe me, most of the comments/actions of pug players in fractals are just annoying and unnecessary.

Well so are actions by group members, especially when you make it clear what kind of pug your wanting in the lfg text.

STIHL.2489:

Ryou.2398:

deSade.9437:

Henry.5713:

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Just don’t be a kitten – don’t ask disingenuous, insinuating questions (“Why didn’t you do x [you stoopid scrub]?”) and don’t challenge people you don’t know, because you have no idea how they’re going to respond.
Sometimes people take comments lightly, sometimes they don’t; if you want to minimise unpredictable reactions from strangers, keep your godkitten mouth shut.

I disagree if your to insecure you cannot handle a healthy opinion or criticism then you have no business being online period, how can you handle holding down a job and going out in the world if you cannot handle a comment like that in a game?

Now if your rude about it thats another story, but really if you care about what everyone else thinks then your life will be really hard, its one thing to listen to take criticism as something that might be true about you and another to let everyone else control how you feel.

Do you actually go around in real life blurting out unsolicited advice at your co-workers and random people?

Well no, but when your in a group your also spending not only your time but others peoples time as well, so if for some reason someone is hindering the group then yea id say its fine to give them some healthy advice, also people give advice in the game and forums all the time what is so different when your in a group?

And actually I do give random advice at times in rl and guess what people dont usually get offended because I can do it without sounded like a jerk. Like I said if thats something people find offensive then the issue is with them.

Valarouko.2938:

1. Some of the 4 stat armor types are expensive. Are any of them worth using? (PVE)
2. Are any classes capable of being a hybrid Condi/Power…?
3. Besides Engi and Nero, what classes can pull off Condi, overworld pave?

I know they are random, but I can seem to find a definitive answer… Thanks

Valarouko

Well the maruardars is certainly worth using, but it depends on your class and build. Well if you have a reddit account I can post some info someone gave me about a revenant condi build thats been tested, people will condi revenant its bad but it looks legit, ill send you a message with it. Keep in mind though anything beyond necro with condi is usually better with a mix of condi and phys dps.

I think elementalists can make decent condition builds as well but dont take it like gospel.

deSade.9437:

Henry.5713:

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

Just don’t be a kitten – don’t ask disingenuous, insinuating questions (“Why didn’t you do x [you stoopid scrub]?”) and don’t challenge people you don’t know, because you have no idea how they’re going to respond.
Sometimes people take comments lightly, sometimes they don’t; if you want to minimise unpredictable reactions from strangers, keep your godkitten mouth shut.

I disagree if your to insecure you cannot handle a healthy opinion or criticism then you have no business being online period, how can you handle holding down a job and going out in the world if you cannot handle a comment like that in a game?

Now if your rude about it thats another story, but really if you care about what everyone else thinks then your life will be really hard, its one thing to listen to take criticism as something that might be true about you and another to let everyone else control how you feel.

EphemeralWallaby.7643:

Ryou.2398:

Well im hoping to get more then one class out of this game.

Leave that for the future… play the ele ‘till ya’ want to try/play another class, and worry ‘bout it then. By then you’ll likely have a better idea of what you want to play as an alt. Who knows, maybe that’s when you’ll prefer a non-magic class like engi or war as a change of pace?

~EW

Well lets wait and see what others say first, as I said playing an ele first is a last resort thing, I appreciate the advice but I dont think thats the best plan for me.

EphemeralWallaby.7643:

If you think you’ll have the most fun with an ele, then play an ele. There’s no reason to save it for last if you’ll have the most fun playing it.

There’s a lot of people who only play one character and no others. So, if that’s what winds up happening for you, then so what? Enjoy the game, ‘cause that’s what it’s there for.

~EW

Well im hoping to get more then one class out of this game.

Alright so I know ive been across the game forums but I think im getting allot of biased info but im just having a hek of a time deciding on a class, first thing you should probably know is that im saving elementalist for last since its its a magic based class with lots of skills to play with, so theres a good chance I wont enjoy anything else after that.

I leveled a guardian to level 80 because I love the dps/support hybrid characters, but my problem with the class is how slow the weapons feel themselves and to be honest traps dont sound appealing to me, I like the bow aspect but not really the traps, its possible I may enjoy it but I cannot get past the fact I only like 2 weapons on this class.

I am trying a thief and revenant at the moment, im not really feeling revenant so far, I cannot explain it but it feels kind of hollow, I usually love classes that can be a role switcher like the druid from wow just as an example but im more of an eq2 vet then wow vet, anyways hes only past 20 so far, also id thought it would be more flashy but its very subtle so far, also people say it ends up being an auto attack class later on.

Thief seems fun, I loved my monk from everquest 2 but I have a feeling daredevil wont really get me anything like my monk, I usually like a mix of range and melee but thieves seem to be all about stabby stabby and dodges so far, plus I prefer having a bit more support for my groups, I dont really play pure dps classes. I have never been fond of rogue classes in mmorpgs unless its like a magic kind of rogue type, I also hear its another aa class later on as well with dodges roll thrown in.

Ranger, hmmmm I did try one a while back and really disliked longbow, the rest seemed kind of cool, I really like the shortbow though, druid seems kind of appealing but I prefer having the option to be a dps druid and not just a healing druid, plus I hear rangers have the most problems right now.

Engineers dont appeal to me right now, I prefer some form of magic in my classes to be honest, I may end up with one eventually.

Warriors same answer.

Mesmer, I actually have one and they seem interesting, but I dont really feel its what im looking for, ill probably be in the mood to play a mostly utility class eventually just not right now.

Necromancer, im not a big fan of being pure condition dps, also the pets are ugly to me, I dont mind darker pets but no just no.

Well I think I covered all my thoughts on the classes, feel free to correct me about anything I may be wrong about, I may just give up and go elementalist if I cant find anything else to play. Thanks all!

I doubt there is really an effective one but the only thing keeping me from loving my guardian is the slow animations from allot of weapons, so I end up with using very few. I was wondering is there some kind of shout boon duration build that is effective in pve stuff? Fractals, dungeons, or even raiding?

reikken.4961:

ele favorite
thief best, for open world. specifically daredevil, with unhindered combatant and shortbow. get from A to B in literally half the time of other classes

Thief seems cool, I just cant get past the fact its so stabby stabby, I dont usually like rogue classes, also I hear its pretty much an auto attack class via endgame, well dodging and auto attacking anyways.

Trepidation Lost.3469:

Just stop playing rev, i stopped once they nerfed the dodge skill as i realised theyre not going to fix anythign but continue to slowly nerf eevrything stage by stage ^^ play condi warrior or druid or condi mesmer like evryone els e:D our days of fun on a cool concept are over cos anet cant open their eyes

Does coni druid really work though? Ive been considering it, I just dont want to be stuck on healing.

Passive speed for open world item, cloaks, and dragon wings.

Josh XT.6053:

Ele is my favorite class hands down, but my next favorite is Guardian personally. I’ve been playing my Revenant more recently and I’m really enjoying that for WvW roaming too.

Really depends on what you’re doing. Every class is good at something (except ranger) lol.

I guess something similar, I liked the guardian myself but found allot of the weapons boring and slow. I have been trying rev myself recently and dont have an opinion on it yet.

I hear all the time how versatile elementalists are and how they are the most fun if you like having allot of abilities and being versatile, this is why I am making this class to be my last one I play lol because I know I will love it plus I love magic classes.

Anyways im curious what is your go to beyond the ele? It may help me narrow down my other choices, thanks all.

Daemonne.5018:

I am very happy with the SB – A/T Condi build I am using.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/PvE-WvW-Bleed-druid/first

Good survival-ability and I can solo most difficult HPs in HoT. No, not the Mushrooms lol but one extra person and the Mushroom Kings are doable :-)

Man I may have to go this route does anyone know how druid staff is doing for condition dps now? I really love the concept, plus it looks flashy.

Clear Black.8521:

Artellus.7130:

Thanks for all the replies so far! I think I’m close to deciding, but further responses are appreciated!
Cheers

Actually, you may or may not know this, I sure as kitten didnt, but when you activate the lvl 80 boost you are ported to the Silverwastes to “try out” the character before you commit. You can play the entire zone if you like I believe, then you go back to the lvl 80 Boost “vendor” and make your decision to keep it or move on to another character to test out.

Wow I wish I would of known this myself, to bad you cannot try them in a fractal though.

Hennessey.2985:

Ryou.2398:

Artellus.7130:

Morning friends. I find myself in the middle of a small conundrum, which the title may or may not give away. We’ve been gifted with a Level 80 boost, a fabulous prize that I do not wish to waste.
So my question is… Is Revenant worth creating and spending this boost on right now? I have been reading the forums quite a bit lately, and it doesn’t seem that the class is in a very good place atm. For perspective, I primarily play PvE, with very brief excursions into PvP.

Feel free to give me your opinions in the positive or negative. I appreciate your help and feedback.

To be honest I’m hearing different opinions, if you go to every class board they will all likely yell you the same thing beyond ele, because while some do have problems the others are just making it sound worse then it is, I’m having fun leveling mine, also revenant is really fun in dungeons and fractals since you can switch rolls like a Swiss army knife, I’m not sure how true that is for raising they say here it’s not.

Anyways I recommend you try it yourself because it’d hard to tell for sure, I would use it on a playstyle you know you love.

Seems like my advice wasn’t so bad after all, eh.

OT: Rev is versatile, wanted and fun to play, but without Glint I imagine leveling is a pain in the kitten , so it’s def. worth using your boost.

The core builds are fine, Mesmer DPS is more dependent on traits then Rev, leveling is easy.

I forget but the trait but on guardian you can remove the long cooldowns with a trait, I’m curious about what you mean by increasing in signet’s, your other suggestions are greatly interesting, but I don’t know much about the other classes anyways I really don’t think concentration is the issue with guardians atm.

Artellus.7130:

Morning friends. I find myself in the middle of a small conundrum, which the title may or may not give away. We’ve been gifted with a Level 80 boost, a fabulous prize that I do not wish to waste.
So my question is… Is Revenant worth creating and spending this boost on right now? I have been reading the forums quite a bit lately, and it doesn’t seem that the class is in a very good place atm. For perspective, I primarily play PvE, with very brief excursions into PvP.

Feel free to give me your opinions in the positive or negative. I appreciate your help and feedback.

To be honest I’m hearing different opinions, if you go to every class board they will all likely yell you the same thing beyond ele, because while some do have problems the others are just making it sound worse then it is, I’m having fun leveling mine, also revenant is really fun in dungeons and fractals since you can switch rolls like a Swiss army knife, I’m not sure how true that is for raising they say here it’s not.

Anyways I recommend you try it yourself because it’d hard to tell for sure, I would use it on a playstyle you know you love.

Zenith.7301:

Ryou.2398:

Jack Skywalker.5674:

Ryou.2398:

Hennessey.2985:

Revenant ist fine in PvE and brings a lot to the table. You should just try it out instead of relying on other people’s opinions.

Im not going to waste my time leveling something I wont enjoy, when lots of people are saying the same thing its usually true, so maybe you shouldnt tell others that all the time.

You don’t have any ideea whether you are going to like revenant based on these comments. Give the rev a spin at least at lvl 30 in the dungeons or in sPvP – I mean me not likeing Glint…that’s my oppinion only….and who knows maybe you will find something about Glint you will like….or other legends.

The problem is I dont want to end up with just auto attack spam, with all the complaints I hear from others about this and energy management complaints this is the impression it gave.

Short of playing a mesmer, ele, or engineer, that’s all you do.

Autoattack spam is the majority of the DPS for most classes that aren’t as rotationally complex as mesmer/engineer/ele.

Revenant uses Autoattack and #2 sword skill while occasionally using the swiftness facet active and switching to another legend to hit impossible odds/vengeful hammers when your energy bar depleted.

I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for you to understand that combat in this game is simplistic compared to WoW/FFXIV/Wildstar rotations.

It’s that simple, you have a weapon with 5 skills on it and of the 5 skills only 1-2 are really DPS optimal. That applies to most of the classes. Live with it or find another game.

First of all I never said I didn’t understand clearly I stopped replying so what’s so hard to not assume? Also considering your limited to those skills you should be able to use them regardless, I never said it had to be only DPS some of those skills aren’t just DPS so tour missing the point, also I don’t like your attitude towards me in general and I think you really don’t know what your talking about.

I dont get why suddenly condition is bad for revenants when condition dps just got buffed across the board.

Fluffball.8307:

Staff does moderate power damage because it attacks so quickly and triggers sigils, GS + staff is a PvP/WvW build. (I mean it’s still sort of crap, but it does all right. It’s a utility weapon.)

Before HoT, I often roamed WvW with s/d + GS. And s/a + GS is a reasonable dungeon running build. Open with swoop and maul, then swap to sword.

So in other words, gs/sword for pve not staff.

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Fluffball.8307:

I think I read somewhere that the breakpoint for when condi beats power is if the fight lasts 30 seconds or more. That’s probably not the right number, but the general idea is sound.

Ryou.2398:

Long ago I tried ranger but just could not stand the longbow style

Have you tried melee ranger? It’s the best thing about the class for me, and is meta or at least viable in all 3 game modes. Sword + GS, or staff + GS.

That sounds awesome but isn’t staff DPS based around condi? What did you use before you unlocked druid?

Long ago I tried ranger but just could not stand the longbow style, so im just wondering about ranger since it was a versatile kind of character to play, also can druid dps as good as well or do they just make better healers?

Thanks all.

I find it hard to believe all these classes just use aa in raiding I mean seriously? That just doesnt make sense.

Someone told me this, so I was wondering how true it was thank you.

Vargamonth.2047:

Ryou.2398:

Vargamonth.2047:

Herald is definitely autoattack heavy, but not necessarily as simple as it might sound.
Once you factor in the right side if the skillbar, which is filled with high CD utilities on most other classes, the amount of skill usage becomes average-ish.
A raid PS Warrior, for example, has a much more interesting weapon skill rotation but an almost passive utility skillset.
Thief, which seems to be your current alternative to herald, is probably, along with DH, the most passive / autoattack heavy character you could use on a raid setting.

Hmmm interesting, this is a tough choice then, its the first im hearing it about thieves though. Daredevil doesnt seem to be all about auto attack to be honest.

Quickness doesn’t affect some of the staff skills so, in a raid group where you have a high uptime of quickness, autoattacking plus a dodge roll from time to time is almost the best DPS you can get. On top of that, you might easily find yourself picking passiuve signets as utilities.

On a different scenario, like soing fractals without a chrono or just open world play, things can be completely different tough.

So what classes do beyond auto attack in raids?

Vargamonth.2047:

Herald is definitely autoattack heavy, but not necessarily as simple as it might sound.
Once you factor in the right side if the skillbar, which is filled with high CD utilities on most other classes, the amount of skill usage becomes average-ish.
A raid PS Warrior, for example, has a much more interesting weapon skill rotation but an almost passive utility skillset.
Thief, which seems to be your current alternative to herald, is probably, along with DH, the most passive / autoattack heavy character you could use on a raid setting.

Hmmm interesting, this is a tough choice then, its the first im hearing it about thieves though. Daredevil doesnt seem to be all about auto attack to be honest.

Jack Skywalker.5674:

Ryou.2398:

Hennessey.2985:

Revenant ist fine in PvE and brings a lot to the table. You should just try it out instead of relying on other people’s opinions.

Im not going to waste my time leveling something I wont enjoy, when lots of people are saying the same thing its usually true, so maybe you shouldnt tell others that all the time.

You don’t have any ideea whether you are going to like revenant based on these comments. Give the rev a spin at least at lvl 30 in the dungeons or in sPvP – I mean me not likeing Glint…that’s my oppinion only….and who knows maybe you will find something about Glint you will like….or other legends.

The problem is I dont want to end up with just auto attack spam, with all the complaints I hear from others about this and energy management complaints this is the impression it gave.

Hennessey.2985:

Revenant ist fine in PvE and brings a lot to the table. You should just try it out instead of relying on other people’s opinions.

Im not going to waste my time leveling something I wont enjoy, when lots of people are saying the same thing its usually true, so maybe you shouldnt tell others that all the time.

So is the auto attack thing not true then?

I thought the point was to be able to switch roles, you essentially get 10 utilities and you can easily switch legends quickly before another fight. But I guess the auto attack thing is true and I know I won’t like that.

Well I guess it’s time to move on thanks everyone.

Well everyone else has made it sound mediocre in pve. Maybe I should wait and roll thief for now.

Jack Skywalker.5674:

Which PvE content? For the dungeons it’s still good, for raids…from what I read unless herald (buff bot) Rev’s aren’t wanted. PvP….kitten knows with the nerf on Phase Travel – most people hate it with a burning passion.

What about fractals? Little dissapointed in raids. Thanks man.

All these posts about resource is it bad for pve to? Can I still be a role switcher and etc? I appreciate any info thank you.

Clearly the majority want the split in this thread in fact I don’t think anyone disagreed here, I really think it will work and anet will see much happier customers.

Dude, rune of the flame legion if you want burn duration of has no equal. It has extra dps against burning enemies to, however you wont get the extra condi dps, but 7 percent dps against flaming enemies seems better, or maybe you can mix that with some of the ele ones.

IndigoSundown.5419:

Ryou.2398:

Zoltar MacRoth.7146:

PopeUrban.2578:

Casual

People keep using that word, without understanding what it means.

Casual is a distinction in amount played, not skill brought to the table.

I would argue that the meaning of some words, like casual, is so subjective as to be a useless term for debates. Even if we take it as a distinction in amount played, where is the line? How much do you have to play to go from casual to ..elite?

I value any attempt to clarify something but I think in the case of ‘casual’ we’re doomed to haggle over the meaning, if we’re looking for an absolute one. I think the only use we’re going to get out of it is in relative comparisons; e.g. Person X plays Y hours. I play Y + 5 hours, therefore person X is more casual than me.

Apart from that, I agree with the rest of your post and I do (now) enjoy the difficulty of HOT. It’s even got me excited to see what the next expansion might bring and.. if it might be a little harder still.

EDIT: typo

It doesnt matter, casual has an actual definition you use the word within the realm of the actual definition, not something based off ones opinion.

Definitions evolve over time. Definitions are static, while communication is dynamic.Terms get adapted to mean different things. In the process, communication can be… interesting, and misunderstandings happen.

Just on these boards, “casual” is being used to mean: lesser amounts of time spent; preference for a more relaxed experience over a more adrenaline-inducing one; a preference to just play aimlessly rather than to pursue a goal relentlessly; and doubtless other meanings.

It certainly doesn’t hurt to define such a word for oneself. That certainly lets readers understand your posts better. However, whether it’s “correct” to try to hold other people to that definition or not, it’s not going to happen.

I disagree, we cannot change the meaning of the word just because it fits our opinion, we need a universal langauge of set in stone definitions in the first place, make up your own instead of hijacking another word if you want to do that. And casual means laid back or not dedicating allot of time, or even little effort so it can be used for gamers who dont want to put much into a game with good rewards.

InsaneQR.7412:

Ryou.2398:

Zenith.7301:

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Guardian’s top DPS spec is power hammer. Rev’s top DPS spec is power 1h sword.

Both are fairly dull playstyles because their damage is largely concentrated on their autoattack, and in the case of the revenant your #2 skill.

Herald turns the revenant into a rather passive class as your role is to fart out boon for the group, so you just turn on passives until it’s time to switch to Jalis or Shiro to recharge your energy until Glint is back.

The battlemage is obviously the dagger elementalist or mesmer, or even power reaper. Power reaper isn’t that rotationally engaging either.

So if you want some more engaging rotation you’ll probably go for mesmer or ele.

However, if you truly want an entertaining, rotationally complex class, engineer is your best bet.

Sword on rev doesnt seem like a boring playstyle to me, also just because ele goes into melee range does not mean anything like a battlemage, a battlemage usually has martial and magical ability. And im sorry if that sounded rude but it baffles me when people think ele is a type of battlemage, maybe with conjured weapons but they arent up to par right now.

And I take the forums like a grain of salt when it comes to what people consider bad or good, I only asked about the playstyle, every forum class is saying they are being over nerfed, and only one or two weapons are useful, what are the chances of that really happening? Come on now, I really dont think thats believable.

If its true what you said, that is kind of sad, but its the first time im hearing about this.

Mainly most people are complaining about nothing, i mean i play rev mpst of the time with staff which gives good dps and some sustain, its not the most damage you can do but its good and has more föavour because of the melee staff function.
Sword is for burst and the legend matching it is shiro.
Hammer is the ranged weapon of the class with good cc.
Staff has sustain and shield is support.
If you dont want condi dont take mace or axe and dont take mallyx as legend.
Herald has a dull gameplay when you take glint, i personally prefer shiro and ventari in pve but this is my humble opinion.

Thanks for the input everyone!

Yobculture.5786:

People who want 5k+ AP for level 13 fractal are most likely mentally incapacitated.

On the other hand, in my opinion it’s not unreasonable to add a filter to your LFG if it’s content like raids (if you meet your own requirements) or T4 fractals. Don’t know about you guys but I personally hate having to carry people when I want to just do something quickly so I can get on with the rest of what I want to do for the day.

And thats fine but dont kick people just because you dont want to explain it, how else will people learn if no one tells them? The problem is you just kick people for one mistake it is rude and a form of elitism. If you dont want to teach anyone or carry anyone your just going to have to specify each time, thats no ones responsibility but your own:)

Another thing that royally ticks me off is when people make groups and everyone leaves because they want drop the pug people to invite thier friends who showed up late to the party, your wasting other peoples time, no just no.