Guild Wars 2

I, on the other hand, have finally decided to level a warrior because of the nerfs. Feels more interesting to play now.

So, I’ve played other classes off and on but always stuck to my necro and engineer. However, I really like greatswords so I wanted to make a class that uses one. Since I’m partial to medium armor, went with ranger. Post patch I’ve leveled a ranger to 50 but always wound up deleting. So to see if I’d still like the feel of the ranger, put my old zerker build together and went into hotjoin.

DEAR GOD the people that hate rangers right now! Every match no matter where I went there were

1. at least 3 Rangers in there and
2. tons of people complaining about rangers

The complaints ranged from rangers are noobs, rangers are cheese, rangers should be replaced with a real profession. Just insane really.

It sounds like we’re speaking of WvW here. In which case, this thread is null and void.

Don’t get me wrong, I love WvW, but balancing anything around it is just a bad idea.

Yamsandjams.3267:

ellesee.8297:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Mortar is terrible! Vee Wee just likes running it because the game is boring! Vee Wee has been running nothing but this gadget build and 5 elixirs!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqalcTp6q1XxCLseNCbBBqNI6jEln85IGglC-TJhAwATeAAkLDA4EAwb/BA

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Correct me if I’m wrong, but that looks like 4 elixirs and a crate to me.

Shares another account with a friend, sometimes one of his accounts gets banned, he can be a bit opinionated at times.

September Feature Patch: RP gets nerfed!

you think you have it bad? Engineers have naturally crappy weapon attacks since they have kits, but not kits for new engies till level 12 now. lol

lol. It’s all because everyone kept saying that Well of Blood was better as a party heal than Signet of Vampirism. So they said, “Ok, we’ll fix that easily!”

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand NERF!

So so sad.

ellesee.8297:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Mortar is terrible! Vee Wee just likes running it because the game is boring! Vee Wee has been running nothing but this gadget build and 5 elixirs!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqalcTp6q1XxCLseNCbBBqNI6jEln85IGglC-TJhAwATeAAkLDA4EAwb/BA

Wahoo! Bye frands!

lol. Ok. For a second there I thought you had achieved the impossible. :P

Also, I’ve seen you post #mortarmeta2014 as well. You got a decent working build using mortar elite going on?

Phaeton.9582:

Incendiary p is much worse than combustive shot though. Thats pretty much how it is….

Not saying combustive shot isn’t naff, but people that only play rabid engi.. Rly..:p

Why do people think Incendiary Powder is so op? It’s a burn, something we already have ample access to. It affects 1 target every 10 secs. Combustive Shot covers an entire capture point with burning every 8 secs. Sure IP is lame because it’s considered passive, but comparing it to Combustive Shot or saying it is op or broken? People gotta learn what they are talking about before throwing out random complaints.

I’ve experienced a few things…

• Magnet pull only pulls enemy halfway.
• Magnet pull pulls enemy halfway, so then I run towards him, only to have him teleport to where he should have been pulled to start with.
• Magnet pull works! Yay, oh no he just teleported back to where he was before the pull. >.<
• Throw Wrench tb projectile skill falls down into skyhammer holes, negating the attack.

What I really want to see is it become a kit.

• As a kit it should have a lengthy cast time both when equipping and leaving the kit.
• Damage and range needs to be increased.
• Every other aspect of current Mortar remain the same.

Ya gotta update the text in your op to correspond with your build. ;P

Also, have you given Throw Mine with gadget GM trait a go yet to see if it is indeed better?

Do not mess with Supply Crate, do not mess with Power Shoes.

Don’t care if Cloaking Device leaves, and the condi cleanse would be very welcome. However, as mentioned it should be a master trait, only cleanse 1 condition, no icd though. We already have cd’s on tb skills.

This sounds almost exclusive for WvW. Many of the skills sound completely op and don’t feel like they fit the theme of the engineer at all. Engineers are not futuristic high-tech soldiers, and I don’t want them to become that.

Awesome video there.

You sound like you’d fit right in.

So, I just got kicked out of my guild because I wouldn’t agree that the duration of Lich Form needed to be nerfed and that Lich Form has no counters.

I agreed the nerf to the damage was a needed fix, but that the nerf to duration only hurts PvE players. Said that most PvP players won’t stay in the full duration anyways due to be focused down.

And because of this, they resorted to insults and then came the guild kick. Of course, didn’t realize my guild leaders were that immature, so probably for the best. lol

Other classes don’t have locust swarms.

It would have been nice to have this as a minor trait.

This makes me kind of excited.

It is a nerf but a needed one. And only the procs and well bomb portions are being nerfed, the Lich’s actual damage will be about the same if not better. The duration nerf isn’t bad for pvp since most people never use it for full duration, it does hurt pve community though, where it didn’t need to be nerfed.

Back on my Necro now, and loving it way more than Engi. Disregard my prvious statement, I love the site and I think the more people that get involved the better it will become. Keep up the good work.

Berullos.6928:

I’ve been running power ever since warriors got zerk stance and cleansing ire. This was also when AR used to be 100% condi duration immune, as well when Ele’s have the immune condi above 90%.

Theres so many hard counters to condi only that power to me seems the more viable necro spec that can handle more builds.

Just try facing a condi warrior with zerk stance/cleansing ire/and longbow. He outcondis and outlasts you. Its really pathetic.

The newer dodge heavy 2 0 0 6 6 thief build is also more condi hate than most thieves. And most bunkers are extremely condi hate as well. There’s a reason why condi hasnt been that big an issue in the highest levels of tpvp.

This post has literally nothing to do with op’s question.

Now back to topic, drop your spectral skills and pick up well of power and well of corruption. Well of corruption can be swapped out as needed according to the upcoming fight. Drop axe and get another dagger, especially without axe training. Everything else is fine.

Oh, and do not spam Life Blast. Use it as range attack when you have to back off from melee or use death shroud defensively. But your goal should never be to sit in Death Shroud and spam Life Blast.

Seiishizo.7162:

ya cus necro is sooooooo good at stacking might…

ofc its a nerf

10 stacks with utility, 3 stacks on weapon swap, 1 stack per crit, extra stacks when taking damage, and runes of strength. I’ve easily maintained 20+ stacks of might in matches.

Blackjacks.9856:

Shaogin.2679:

Vee Wee just trying to keep players that have never been ranked from steering newer engineers the wrong way is all.

Now, on topic, if you’re going to bunker a point, I’d say Stabilized Armor. For a more mobile build that can avoid much of the hard cc I’d say Protective Shield.

No he isn’t he is an annoying self important troll who holds his opinion over all others, even when he is wrong. This whole “Pro worship” culture of gaming really needs to stop, now.

Actually I don’t even like Vee Wee. I just recognize that he knows what he is talking about and for the most part does what he can to steer engineers trying to learn away from bad information. His posts may be annoying to read and he may seem self-centered, but his posts are constructive and for the most part do not resort to personal attacks against other players, unlike yourself. Then also the fact that he has experience with such builds outside of HotJoin, unlike yourself. Then add the fact that anyone else who has made it out of HotJoins (hell I’ve only been to 536 soloqueue) has had the same experiences and know what he says to be correct.

I have never been crated and destroyed in a 1v1 that I was not going to lose anyways. I have never gone against an engi that I was sure I’d beat and then lost because of some crate. crate is effective and useful, but nowhere near a game changer or “best elite in the game!” lol. OP, ignore these people, and crate some faces.

Classes are not equal. The Necromancer has an advantage that you as a Thief do not have. This will never change, and you’re just going to have to learn to live with it.

There is nothing wrong with Necromancer Spectral Walk.

Awesome work. I’ll be sure to bookmark this.

Speaking of S/D builds, do toolbelt skills that don’t target a player still have a hard time connecting the S/D attack that procs off of it?

Other than that, mines are crazy fun on a S/D build, especially when dealing with thieves. Mines provide area denial around you. Meaning a thief is putting themselves at great risk trying to melee you. Not to mention the damage of a mine field if you cc your opponent into one and just unload on him is great.

Keep in mind though that I only play S/D builds for fun in Hotjoin. I tend to get focused too much in arenas to play such a squishy build.

Like Thieves with Basilisk Venom, Eles with Elemental Glyph, Warriors with their Signet, Rangers with RaO, the few Mesmers that love to Moa you, every Guardian ever that uses Renewed Focus or w/e it is, Necro running any elite period, they all use elites 1v1. ALL OF THEM. Don’t let them pretend for a second that you using your crate was the only thing contributing to your win.

A win is a win, ignore the loser’s insults as they lick their wounds.

Vee Wee just trying to keep players that have never been ranked from steering newer engineers the wrong way is all.

Now, on topic, if you’re going to bunker a point, I’d say Stabilized Armor. For a more mobile build that can avoid much of the hard cc I’d say Protective Shield.

Wyrden.4713:

i rly hoped the red post would be :

we r sry, thx for reporting this problem, pres arent supposed to drop from pvp boxes! we will fix that right away!

That would be horrible! lol

Not to mention have the spvp community in an uproar.

Ephemerial.8571:

I see. If it’s about stun braking, would goggles do the job? or slick shoes?
Thanks for the feedback though, I’ll try it out.

I’m not too much of a max-min kind of person. I like doing fun things that work well enough for me to have fun. Once I can’t win with this anymore, I’ll probably switch it out, but until then, I just want it to be as good as it can

Also, aren’t burst builds supposed to be good in sPVP, for taking out single targets? (I’ve been playing it for about 5 days, so…)

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-X70;2cPFw0Q6oRFx0;9;49T;0T4;0358;4158IR;4Ewk2Ewk25B

This is the basic S/D build I’ve been working with. The toolkit can be swapped out for battering ram, but I love have the pull and shield block from toolkit. Healing Turret out performs the Med Kit and with Rifle Turret and Jump Shot you’ll be able to get off a few finishers from the water field. As for Stun Break, Utility Goggles is a must for this build. No exceptions. It gives fury, immunity to blind, and breaks a stun. Then the toolbelt skill currently puts out a static discharge that can be used while cc’d, applies 10 stacks of vuln, and after patch will also apply 6 seconds of Reveal.

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

Gratz man. After the wardrobe change i found a number of precursor skins..not the same, but pleasant all the same. Don’t rush and obsess over trying to quickly make into a legendary..just plot away it. You’ll get the most fun doing it that way and avoid what a number of us came to know all too well..“legendary burnout.” It takes time, so just chip away at it.

Believe me, after I saw the rest of the materials required to make The Predator, I’ve got a feeling I’ll be holding on to The Hunter for quite some time. Which is still great, cause I love the skin.

Linnael.1069:

Even discounting the aggro/screen clutter benefit, thieves guild drops a scorpion wire, black powder, and unload in the first 3 seconds after use.

If you can’t figure out how to win any 1v1 with that then you’re not even thinking and no elite will save you.

I play an engi. When Thieves Guild is summoned, I know exactly what is going to happen so I either dodge or reflect and and then nade em to death. Not as big of an elite as people claim it to be.

Bran.7425:

Looking at this it seems that the core of this is the original poster want the fractal weapon skins to become available from the activity that ‘he’ (going with masculine as gender neutral here) enjoys. If that is OK then shouldn’t the players that enjoy fractals (or wvw or whatever activity) then be able to receive those new pvp armor skins.

Shaogin.2679:

Don’t think Ranks are the answer. Would rather just see players on the losing team get no rewards at all. Too many people do whatever they want in matches cause they know they are getting rewards, win or lose.

That would just reduce the general spvp population to lose all the growth that the increase in rewards gained the mode over the last year. Also it would be to easy for someone to harass others by dropping match as 4 vs 5 would quickly become a waste of time. At that rate you might as well remove all rewards from spvp aside from team queue and then only on victory and put the nail in the modes coffin.

True. Still, would be nice to see something implemented to separate Hotjoin and Soloqueue. At the moment the only diference is the queue time. Team queue is great, but not something I always have time to organize.

But for all that to happen, soloqueue would need to implement a method for balancing 4v5 matches. Then rewards for losing would need to be dropped. And punishment for leaving would need to be strong enough to make staying in a losing match a better option than leaving early.

Though I’m sure this is all way off topic now.

Josh Davis.6015:

That’s great! Some people have all the luck…

Well this is the first bit of luck I’ve had, but definitely enough to make up for those unlucky moments!

Gotta say today was the best day doing Hotjoin yet. I never even thought about crafting a legendary till this. Just happend to open one of my reward track boxes from some Hotjoin matches and found Dawn. Had no idea what it was either till my guild started flipping out about it. I play an Engi, so to me it was just another sword, till I saw what it sold for at least. So at the advice of a guildie, I sold it and biught The Hunter and will now be working on getting The Predator.

Edit: And due to the price difference in the precursors too, also made 200 gold profit! Awesome day for GW2 overall.

Jurica.1742:

Issue with the balthazar backpiece is that even a fly could get it. sit in a farming server for a few hours. I’d say that if you want things to be PvP exclusive, make reward tracks unlockable at rank 35-40 or even 80 and make ranks harder to get. Anyone can hop into PvP and get all the rewards with little to no effort, while if you want to come to PvE, you need an exotic armor set, expensive runes/sigils, food, learn how to play the part of PvE that you need for the item and then it takes a long time. Like fractals weapons. You need to do x amount of fractals to get to x level and each fractals takes 1,5h. Then you have a small chance of getting a fractals weapon and you need to repeat and repeat and repeat the fractals until you get lucky and get exactly the weapon that you want. It’s a lot of time all of us would prefer to spend PvPing.

Don’t think Ranks are the answer. Would rather just see players on the losing team get no rewards at all. Too many people do whatever they want in matches cause they know they are getting rewards, win or lose.

Orangensaft.7139:

if the reward track can only be done with real tournament games then yes

if it is possible with hotjoin too then no

anet should create a new type of reward track where you can only progress with tournament games!

but then again… it is the only pve exclusive reward that exists
and the only pve reward with prestige since it shows that you actually have beaten the only sort of hard content in pve…

God no. Soloqueue isn’t much different from Hotjoin due to everyone going there for rewards already. Last thing we need is for more Hotjoin players filling soloqueue just to farm rewards.

Eyia Hellhide.7320:

KumaTazZ.8054:

That will make Fractal skins become common skin, So please don’t do that.

Yeah, just like Legendaries became so common now when we have the possibility to get a precursor from PvP chests. Do anyone actually have a precursor drop from PvP chest? Come on guys, don’t hide, wave your precursors.

Support for the idea for Fractal Tracks in PvP.

Not gonna lie, I got a precursor from a pvp chest. Was just about to write a thread on it. Never even thought of making a legendary until I opened a box and found Dawn. So I sold it and bought The Hunter. Was a great Hotjoin day today.

Just to clarify, guessing Cheesemode won EU ToL? I missed the last match. If so though, yay! Then again I only rooted for them cause they had the only Engineer in the finals. Was the first time I actually watched the matches.

Astralporing.1957:

GenoUnknown.7504:

Shaogin.2679:

(gold is easier to obtain now, 300 gold is not out of reach of a casual player)

Lies! I’m a casual player and I can barely scratch together 100g in a month! :P

I have seen some posters claiming that anyone that can’t earn 100g daily is obviously not playing the game. It’s clear that people like that will have very unrealistic vision of what is a “casual gameplay”. Or how big is the ingame wealth disparity.

My wife hardly ever has time to play and when she does she just wants to get on and do some hotjoin matches. She currently has well over 100g from doin hotjoin about 2 hours a week. And I constantly just ask her to send me gold since she’s not using it. Trust me, 300g is as easy to obtain as 100g used to be.

This thread is incredible. Maybe I can explain further. Colors are in no way mandatory! The price change has literally nothing to do with the introduction of colors! Anet can’t win. lol. Currently, you pay 100g for commander’s tag and can use that tag for only one character. After patch, you pay 300 gold for a commander’s tag and get your choice of color, only now you can use that tag on any character you have, thus the reason why the price has increased. It’s the same thing that happened when they changed unlimited gathering tools from being soul bound to being account bound. There is no money barrier that didn’t already exist (gold is easier to obtain now, 300 gold is not out of reach of a casual player) and they are not trying to force anyone to trade gems for gold. There is no conspiracy!

Now I know that many antagonists here will simply disagree and continue to complain, but those are the facts.

zapv.8051:

I have an 80 engi, so you dont need to tell me what the downed states do. In my opinion having 2 interrupts is better than having one. Also, if you take any of the on down traits your wasting a slot anyway so why even consider that. The #2 skills on both suck, but I agree engis is worse. The thing is though the engi 3 skill makes up for that. The aoe interrupt is way better than the added damage necros get.

Well you are entitled to your own opinion of course, but it is just that. The Necro’s down state still out-performs the engineers however until this next patch for reasons I have already outlined.

zapv.8051:

@wolf You seem to be thinking in terms of 1vs1 where necros are indeed strong, but the only thing that actually matters with downed state is if you can prevent a stomp in a teamfight. In that regard necros are far and away the worst. Also, engi downed state isn’t nearly as bad as people say it is. Unless you waste the pull on a non stomp then the 2 skill is as good as necros. The 3 skill is way better.

Engi #2 skill is horrible. It is used in the same way as Necro #2, but keeps the enemy right on us instead of sending them away. Something that is horrible when a teammate is trying to revive you. And we never live long enough to use our #3 skill. The #3 skill takes forever to be available and then has a crazy long cast time and animation. Not mention our #1 skill is completely useless, unlike Necro #1 skill that does respectable damage with a small life siphon on it.

Then traits, we can have bandages with a 25% damage increase to a wet noodle attack. Useless again. Necro can get 50% damage increase on an already strong attack and also a fear when downed thought it is in another trait. This two traits help either Power Necro or Terror Necro.

So trust me, having played both, Engi is worse. However, after patch when they change our downed trait then that will most likely no longer be the case. But until then, Engi is rock bottom.

Is there currently an effective Beastmaster build for tPvP?

So much fail in this thread. Get out of hotjoin and you will see very little to no MM or Turret builds. lol

Did I miss some announcement? I have been under the impression that the price change is due to it being account bound. Price has nothing to do with the color. Totally confused as to why everyone is flipping out.