If I were to look at ALL areas of the game here goes:
Most challenging to least challenging:
Challenging (hardest):
++ Team Arena
+ World vs. World Small Scale/Solo/Duo Roaming
= Solo ArenaAverage challenge (good/easy):
+ PvP Hotjoin
+ Fractals (and very time-consuming)
= Some dungeonsBelow average (easy to extremely easy):
+ Most dungeons
= Wurm, Tequatl
- Other world bosses
— Championslol @ solo/ duo roaming being challenging. I see no challenge in 2 thieves ganking lone players as they try and run somewhere. And that is hands-down the majority of duo/solo roamers. Or, engage players, omg we’re losing, _ stealth, run away_. Or, duo roam, see a group of enemies with more numbers, run away. That is not skill. sPvP/tPvP requires skill, WvW duo/solo roaming is opportunism with very little risk, especially for thieves, but for all classes in general. It’s two people, typically in BiS, looking for easy targets to kill. If you personally have some kind of standards (i.e. you will only engage groups for 3+ then great), but I can tell you most solo/duo roamers are strictly looking for easy/vulnerable targets that are low risk.
Ha, looks like you never fought me. I have been roaming from 2011 until around november 2013. All that time I was always fighting outnumbered, and most of my time went to guardian, warrior, elementalist and mesmer. One of my best fights ever was 5 vs 25.
The OP asked “my” opinion, you are free to disagree, but don’t say every roamer is a heartseeker spamming thief, because that’s simply a wrong generalisation.
@ Sirendor. Stacking is only one strategy use in dungeon. Get rid of stacking, ALL OF STACKING, and the situation is exactly the same as today. I stack nothing when I do Arah and I was playing meta way before I started to stack bosses. Get rid of stacking and it won’t change anything. Like they nerfed zerker and that don’t change anything. They could nerf to the groud zerk and the new meta could be condition and the situation will still be the same.
In answer I’d like to quote what I said earlier in the thread. I do not think that “removing stacking” is the solution, I do think bringing proper mechanisms into the dungeons would solve it.
Dungeons should involve strategy, puzzles and not a little teamwork. Those are at the moment non-existent.
The problem is definitely not the gear, but it definitely IS the content in the dungeon being too mind-numbing stupid.
Well to him it’s the first and last dungeon he’s ever done apparently.
Sorry, but how do you know how many dungeon runs I have done? I used to run about 10 different dungeon paths a day. I played every path in the game and from what I have seen it all came down to one thing: lure the boss in a favorable spot, dodge when it tries to hit you, spam your skills.
Dungeons in this game are like childrens toys. Anet was apparently so concerned with not scaring casuals and people without a brain away that they made bosses the way they are. Some bosses may have a little extra mechanisms, but it’s still a letdown.
If you like to prove your point by playing ad hominem, you are free to do so, but I surely won’t take your serious for doing it.
Bro. Pls. Watch the cleric group versus lupi with dodge unbound. Content is designed in a way that everyone can complete. It doesn’t matter how much you argue this. No one is being a zombie. It’s the cold hard facts. I can complete any dungeon with a group of Settlers. I can complete it quicker with berserkers, but the berserkers MUST know how to dodge else it will take forever due to wiping. Risk/reward. This is a problem because the dungeons are static while we’ve all been playing then for 1.5 years so we know how to run them. New players struggle still. Please learn to logic.
Fixed that for you:
Bro. Pls. Watch the zerker group versus queen spider with no dodging required. Content is designed in a way that everyone can complete it by stacking and dpsing. It doesn’t matter how much you argue this. No one is being more a zombie than you. It’s the cold hard facts. I can complete any dungeon with a group of Berserkers. I can complete it slower with other stats, but the berserkers MUST know how to stack else it will take forever due to falling asleep. No risk/huge reward. This is a problem because the dungeons are bad design while we’ve all been stacking them for 1.5 years so we know how to stack. New players struggle still. Please learn to logic.
SEE WHAT I DID THERE?
Mine makes more sense than yours.
I feel a healer promotes a lot of teamwork.
I couldn’t agree more. Who here played monk or ritualist in PvP?? I loved how it could turn the battle completely around if you managed to keep your team alive, or failed doing so.
Even so, having a monk in one team and no monk in the other, it didn’t break the balance. The extra dps from the one team made it more challenging for the other team aswell because they had to keep their monk alive while monk kept them alive.
You missspelled the thread-title. It should be “PvP” instead of “Hotjoin”
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I did it and was glad. It feels a LOT better than playing s/d in my opinion.
I agree with neither. What I find fun is 5-man instances. Give me those!
Stop it, your ideas are too delicious and I haven’t eaten yet. /grumbles
I know right.
They have never claimed there would be no grind.
They have claimed there would be no REQUIRED grind. Which is still very much true. You can experience every single piece of content in the game without ever grinding anything.They have added rather much real content since release, but for some reason people seems to ignore that.
But I suppose Fractals, new dungeon path, Southsun and Edge of the Mists (to name a few) doesn’t count for some reason?
Everyone knows you as a fanboy already, no need to prove it.
Oh and… this part here is a downright contradiction.
You can’t really blame the game for a bunch of elitists either. It is the players, not the game that creates elitism. And that will happen in every game that require some sort of skill and/or gear.
- First you say: it’s the players who create elitism
- Then you say: it’s something that happens in every game that requires some sort of skill/gear
- So in essence, what’s wrong is that this game has grindy gear tiers and it’s the game that is bad, not the players.
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GW2 can be directly compared to the way life evolves. In the beginning, there were millions of different builds. Through a process of natural selection, those builds were narrowed down. New players inherited these builds, and when a new threat arose, they either adapted the build or the build went extinct.
Where the comparison eventually falls apart is that GW2 builds have artificial rules and we can only develop a build so far. You can’t keep adding health until everyone is running around with 100k, although that would help you survive. Eventually, you’ll have a group of the best possible builds (read: meta builds.)
There is an idea called Convergent Evolution which says that lifeforms in similar situations will evolve similar traits, regardless of how or if they are related. For example, multiple species across every variety of life form from plants to insects to reptiles to mammals have independently developed venom.
QUESTION:
In a parallel universe, has the WvW evolved in to the exact meta that we currently have?Is the current WvW meta the final evolution until the devs change the ‘rules’ (i.e. remove the condi cap, etc.) Or is where we currently are merely an australopithecus afarensis on our way to the modern kitten sapien of WvW metas?
Edit: Kitten sapien sounds adorable. Or horrifying. Can’t decide.
I’ll say one thing, my friend… I don’t follow the meta.
And if you wonder, I do perfectly fine. People are so stunned about seeing builds they can’t even imagine they kitten their pants and I get to wipe them.
Awesome series Sensotix. If you are going to do duels, I’m in!!!!
I only watched you on mesmer, thief and warrior so far, but very much liked what I saw on mesmer and thief. Learned a couple of tricks from watching it.
I play nearly all classes myself (necro and ranger are still quite obscure to me), and would be cool if you shot some more guardian, elementalist, engineer, warrior, though you should of course stick to the classes where you have expertise.
EDIT: I think it would also be interesting to cover different aspects of SPvP: on one hand there is rotations and movement; on the other hand there is the actual combat and certain skill progressions/cycles against specific enemies. The second comes down to basically this: how to fight <insert enemy class> when playing <insert own class>.
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