Guild Wars 2

Question: Why do you guys hate thieves so much?!

Angelica Dream.7103:

One Question:
Why is Acrobatics : Decent of Shadows any good?
Is that for escaping off cliffs? Not sure about the Blinding power part either

In wvwvw, you will be ble to jump down cliffs and survive since you take 50% less fall dmg. the stealth is a bonus. wile fighting (roaming) in wvwvw you can use the environment to gain stealth saving your utilities or when they are not available.

I personally don’t use it but i can see it’s potential.

cooldown: 30 seconds
triggers: any cc type
effec: Removes CC grants 2 sec immunity to CC. Also aoe blinds

Rename it to “Unstoppable”

It is a fun trait to play with casualy.
In competitive play there are far better traits to take.

sorrow.2364:

Volrath.1473:

make stun breakers break it! reduce the duration to 5sec in PvP. also reduce it’s CD.

fixed!

B-but how can mesmers get a freecap on bunkered nodes then?

with skill like every one else besides faceroll warriors

make stun breakers break it! reduce the duration to 5sec in PvP. also reduce it’s CD.

fixed!

@OP
Sorry dude, but no one from a-net will replay to serious threads like this, they only replay to meaningless / funny / fluff threads. Not to mention they know we are right and will never admit it.

Raven.9603:

what i imagine anet would say:

“sword thieves get hit more because of vigor and sword-#2 nerfs, therefore, hard to catch becomes more appealing.”

yeah, They gave us this trait that does more harm than good and want to force us into it, so instead of actually making it viable they nerf every thing else to make it look appealing… at least it is out choice to use it or not. As for last refuge, that one we have no choice… and it gets us killed allot more that it saves us, and don’t bother complaining about it!!! we’ve been doing that since beta and all they did was clean up the tooltip…

due to the long CD on thieves guild, you cant pull off this trick very often, what do you do wile it is on CD?

ahahahah a mesmer complaining about thieves.

Nice one! hilarious! tks for the laugh!!

June 2015 or so

LONGA.1652:

Collaboration? I think that doesn’t change anything from what Dev had in mind.Hopefully the after Nerf feed back will make them see the mistake.

nah…

Can also port you into a wall or stone locking you inside!! you gotta love it!!

Vile.5678:

I just wanted to say, as a long time S/P thief, the new PW is pretty solid.

good luck with sword #2 you’r gonna need it.

Shadow Arts V—Infusion of Shadow: Increased the amount of initiative gained to 2, but only when entering stealth.

Was it not 2 init before!?

with a warrior.

Josh Davis.6015:

In case you missed it, we’re currently awarding wins 3x the normal amount of rank points in Solo Queue, and 5x the normal amount of rank points in Team Arena.

This was buried in another thread, but I figured a lot of people probably haven’t seen it.

Happy hunting!

You guys are desperate to bring players into PvP aren’t you?! Here is a hint. Start to actually balance the game and ppl will naturally come back to PvP. The changes on Dez 10th will drive even more ppl away from PvP.

The PvP team keeps surprising every one with the worse possible decisions balance wise… professions that are balanced are being buffed/nerfed, already OP professions getting buffed, UP professions nerfed I mean… what game are you guys playing?!

Now the NEW healing skills, it is visible that you’ve put a lot of effort in making your favorite profession’s heals guardian’s, warrior’s, the engi’s and the mesmers, after that you thought… what now?! what will we give “the rest” of the professions?!
Who cares… just pull something out of you kitten and throw it in there faces! Then increase the rank points gain to make every one happy and call it a day.

You are giving us a ignorance certificate! Sorry dude, not gonna happen.

I promises you that until every profession is treated equally and the person responsible for balancing skills starts doing his job like a professional, i will not spend another cent in this game nor ill set foot in SPvP even though i don’t PvE at all since im a pure PvP player. I’ll be playing WvWvW exclusively along with other, more balanced games.

Have a nice day.

ronpierce.2760:

Hammerguard.9834:

Necro, mesmer, and ranger heals were underwhelming. The rest were okay.

Agreed except if I’m not mistaken, this new heal might actually be pretty OP for PU Mesmers, can’t be 100% certain on that yet though, but it may have promise for them. (Not that PU needed it, but regardless.)

you truly believe that thieves heal was OK?! a poison on a 45 sec CD that requires you to LAND 4 hits in order to get healed?! Not to mention you need to be in Cleric gear and and it is heavily trait dependent?!

these aren’t the droids you’re looking for, move along.

It’s sad but… they don’t think about what they do… thay talk about “shaving” and “small tooning” but they make game braking changes that make professions insanely op?!

E-sports?! sure in 2088.

Yess!!! tks for nerfing thieves to oblivion! your the best a-net!!

What if you get blocked or evaded?! No Heals no charges and 45sekittenill next heal.
Good luck on that!

Divinity.8041:

pablauto.4210:

Arena net fix the matchmaking.
The ranked pvp is not fun. (not just ranked)

Look the players LV no balance at all.

This fight was not 5vs4 just took me a while to take print.

This is what I am talking about How do things like this make it out of the beta testing stage?

Newsflash: you and the rest of the community ARE the testers. Have you seen the stupid amount of patches/fixes they apply after each patch?! its based on ow feedback.

They say that stuff they a very long time to test blah blah blah… basically they don’t have the stuff ready and need time to roughly finish it, then WE test it from them.

Not disappointed here.
I was expecting then to come out with very little improvements and on a long implementation time.

so yah… I’ll stick with SWTOR until the next decent mmo comes out.

I do the PvP dailys once or twice a week and find myself to be the ONLY thief in the maps.

I only play 5v5 though.

take another break…

kirito.4138:

Keg Brawl

Where the e-sport is truely at!

Allot more fun and BALANCED than sPvP.

Back on topic, I’ve playing a different MMO for the last 3 month. I do log in from time to time to chat with my guild mates and do a couple of hotjoins just to see if I still have it.

this will bbe my build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#200bc0MZfrcRzGbRrbdzZc.3

games that have better pvp experiences than Gw2?
GW1, LoL, DOTA2, SWTOR, even RIFT…

I bet his mother is really proud!

For as long there is no power build to counter it.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Miracle? No. But it’ll be a step in the right direction to fix the current meta. Problem is, we don’t know if the new meta that’ll come out of it will be any better or not.

But unlike the June’s patch, which simply added countless buffs across several professions, this one seems pertty serious about nerfing many of the things that need to be nerfed, and nerfing other things to compensate for upcoming buffs.

nerfing NOW to compensate for FUTURE buffs… sounds same to me… were is the balance in that?! balance between buffs and nerfs should come together. Nerfing now and compensating in a few month is NOT balance.

ill might come back to Gw2 after the patch to play a few days and see how it is.
Although i went back to playing SWTOR, I’m having allot of fun there and i intend to stay there.

Well I’ll stay as I am, since Atm I’m having a blast! Pvp is not only fun but it is also funny, enjoyable, skilful and incentives team play.

Ever since I went back to my Sith Assassin I just can’t stop playing it.

I hope in 1 year time wen I’m fed up of the next new mmo I can have the sam feeling feeling about my Gw2 Thief although I doubt it. I have very good memories from previous mmo that some times make me wanna play them again and lever brand new character. Gw2 will not be on that list… There is nothing memorable about leveling nor pvping (imo that is)

I’m talking about GW2 here, do you fins t acceptable that warriors have more mobility then thieves? Is it justified that they keep nerfing what’s left of thieves,mobility outside SB?

skip it like every one else.

Warriors and Mesmers it better!

Seriously what’s up with the thief profession excelling at mobile and evading?! I hear promises and more promises from anet but all they have been doing is nerfing our mobility even further… on the next patch there is nother nerf… thieves are getting as mobile as a rock.

A-net is constantly nerfing thieves patch after patch with a promise of “compensation”, were is this compensation?

Arena Net <3 thieves

Would be nice to see your build and gear.

Kaon.7192:

Chaining of C&D immediately after Stealth wears off is a bit of a cheap tactic but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do in a 4v1. Regardless, I think this is something that probably needs to be changed since it makes attrition builds have access to way too much sustain in target rich environments like these.

it cant be done more that 2 times on a row due to init cost, i don’t see any problem with it.

Narcarsis.5739:

Volrath.1473:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Jrunyon.3012:

Volrath.1473:

Passive Crit chance is caped at 70%

Source?

The wiki says differently.

He said “passive” means what the crit chance is at the load out without buffs from food or boons, for example.

However with the Assassin items, you can push that passive cap pass 70%.

exactly, the crit change you get from gear runes traits etc is caped at 70%, (I’ve read it somewhere on the early days of the game and since i play thief I never forgot about it but still a confirmation from a dev would be appreciated).

Meaning that if you go over 70% crit it wont matter since it will not pass 70%. It can go over 70% with boons/food.

Again I have no proof of this…

That being said you can achieve over 100% with fury, side strikes, and signet of agility.

yep, was just trying to say that with gear only it is not but with traits and boons it is

Many many treads have been made about this issue, I made one myself shortly after the game came out and not once we got any kind of replay by A-net.

No one knows if it is intended or not, basically they are ignoring us or this issue.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Jrunyon.3012:

Volrath.1473:

Passive Crit chance is caped at 70%

Source?

The wiki says differently.

He said “passive” means what the crit chance is at the load out without buffs from food or boons, for example.

However with the Assassin items, you can push that passive cap pass 70%.

exactly, the crit change you get from gear runes traits etc is caped at 70%, (I’ve read it somewhere on the early days of the game and since i play thief I never forgot about it but still a confirmation from a dev would be appreciated).

Meaning that if you go over 70% crit it wont matter since it will not pass 70%. It can go over 70% with boons/food.

Again I have no proof of this…

Passive Crit chance is caped at 70%

ronpierce.2760:

Town cloths are fun for people, AND there is money to be made because there are a lot of town cloths already buyable, but doesn’t serve a good purpose. I know engineers would buy the flight-helmet and the list goes on from there. So its income for them and more fun for the players. Plus you also have to realize there are different teams that work on PvP. To add this it wouldn’t shut down the whole group of people that work on PvP. :P

Ok, i agree but still believe there are far more important issues to attend to in PvP but if they have the man-power for the job without compromising or delaying the PvP much needed changes then sure!

Although I play an Asura Thief (everything looks terrible on an Asura for some reason… especially medium armor.) Ill keep buyng gems every now and then for a new finisher or skins.

Btw I love the new dagger skins I was gonna buy 2 of them! but after seeing an Asura with one equipped…. it is almost unnoticeable o.O’ … Obviously i didn’t buy gems for that…

Why do you hate Asuras so much?! even the racial gear looks bad…

Evan Lesh.3295:

Volrath.1473:

who cares about town clothes in PvP… I prefer a better pvp experience that is rewarding and balanced. after we have that, I’m fine with whatever cosmetic changes you what to implement.

Seriously… there are far more important stuff to attend and to spend time and resources on.

But what if getting town clothes IS rewarding?

not the kind of rewards I had in mind but its “better” then nothing

who cares about town clothes in PvP… I prefer a better pvp experience that is rewarding and balanced. after we have that, I’m fine with whatever cosmetic changes you what to implement.

Seriously… there are far more important stuff to attend and to spend time and resources on.

Title: Visible WILE in stealth bug

This bug was just recently fixed and now it is back….
I can still see my character visible wile in stealth… it happens less often then before but it is more noticeable when i use CnD immediately follower by infiltrator’s signet, i’d say that 7 out of 10 times i do this combo my character remains visible to me wile in stealth to every one else.

I previewed it on my North and thought to by a pair for my asura thief but after seeing it on an asura i decided not to.

I don’t know what A-net is thinking… don’t they wanna make some money?! the cosmetics should appeal to all races… not to mention the cosmetic armor on the bltp… only the heavy armor is slightly appealing, the light and medium are worse than the gray items we pick up at lvl 10…

Travlane.5948:

Thieves dont have a 2nd weaponset to go to. 1 ini per 1 sec should have been on launch in my opinion.

actually it was 1 init per second in beta and if I’m not mistaking at launch as well, it was nerfed to 0,75 later.

Since 5v5 was introduced, I never played 8v8 again in hotjoins.
The memory of such games is painful.