Guild Wars 2

LyraLynn.7123:

Take a guess at what Anet has put inside this box!

GvG?

You could get the recipe during the Jubilee, which was a living story patch a couple of weeks back.

If you dont have one now, you cant get one until Queen Jenna opens up the Pavilion in Divinty´s Reach again.

Yeah, i did the same and it works. You can also level from 400-425 with making rare inscriptions. I then used those inscriptions to discover rare weapons.
Keep in mind though, that mithril plated and imbued inscriptions are lvl 375, so discovering them, does give less exp than discovering lvl 400 recipes.

Also, the lvl 375 recipes didnt get reset, so if you discovered them before, you are out of luck.

Maybe at 300% Account MF, you get awarded an Artificer Recipe that lets you craft Magic Find Boosters with essences of luck.

KyreneZA.8617:

Wanze.8410:

ilr.9675:

Insider Trading appears to be going on.

I didn’t believe it before…. I thought everyone was just being paranoid as usual.
Nah this is definitely uncalled for price spikes on other stuff too that went up even more than Goss where the orders placed and sell amounts MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL. A bunch of people … probably not just Dulfy editors either and other Media kittens, but Krewe members too all seem to be getting in on this.

You Tinfoilers win …. this is as insider as it’s ever been before.
If it’s this darned apparent, then it’s time for Anet to do something.
…change their policies…. cap purchases for all Krewe & Media people until after patch.

And your proof is?

I think your satire-detection is borked…

I hope you mean that as an insult to satire.

Here is a list of everything the Chest drops:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Black_Lion_Chest

froacus.6892:

mage.3570:

The first generation pets will spike in price between Oct 14-17 and then die down to levels slightly higher than what it is today. I think they will still be producible from second generation+ lower-tier pets.

excuse my ignorance, but why oct 14-17 specifically?

Set 1 Minis are discontinued in the Gem Store on 15th of Oct.

sell them on the tp or wait for the pavillion to open up again

laokoko.7403:

Nub.2391:

crystal is just an alternative of orb and you should buy and make immedietly.
otherwise, when the price raise hit, dust will go up which make crystal=> higher price also

is it even worth promoting orb? dont’ look like it, unless you mean ruby.

With gems its actually called transmogrify, not promoting.

Make both, then transmite.

In his blog post prior to ascended crafting John Smith, the Game Economist, said:

“Economic Concerns

Each of these changes will have an impact on the game economy, resetting equilibriums and creating some unfamiliar market forces—which is why we thought we’d brief you beforehand.

All together these changes will have a pretty large impact on the economy. Since we’re changing the value of all weapons and armor in the game, when the release goes live all materials, armor and weapons will be knocked out of equilibrium.

We have a really large and really fast economy in Guild Wars 2, so many items will find themselves back in equilibrium before you even notice something changed, while other commodities will shift and fluctuate as players adapt to the new system.
What does this mean to you, the player? If you’re an avid Trading Post player it will be a really interesting time, watching how the markets fall back into place. If you’re less interested in the TP you can expect the rewards you previously sold to a vendor to be more valuable to everyone."

This is still going on and is definately expected.

If you mean the recipes for the runes and sigils that use Sprockets as ingredient, no you cant get them anymore.

They will most probably add the Insignias to the Commendations Vendor, once Ascended Armor gets released. They have done the same with the Inscription to make Sentinel Stats available for ascended crafting.

That should bring the price down to under 10g.

ilr.9675:

Insider Trading appears to be going on.

I didn’t believe it before…. I thought everyone was just being paranoid as usual.
Nah this is definitely uncalled for price spikes on other stuff too that went up even more than Goss where the orders placed and sell amounts MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL. A bunch of people … probably not just Dulfy editors either and other Media kittens, but Krewe members too all seem to be getting in on this.

You Tinfoilers win …. this is as insider as it’s ever been before.
If it’s this darned apparent, then it’s time for Anet to do something.
…change their policies…. cap purchases for all Krewe & Media people until after patch.

And your proof is?

Steelo.4597:

i found the perfect counter to perplexity runes….

behold…

perplexity runes!

seriously there have been countless threads about it, its beyond ridiculous that they havent been fixed asap 3 days after putting them in and its just dramatic.. i mean SAD AS HELL that we have to put up with that kitten, what, like 2 months now? The responsible people are just clueless beyond limits or they dont play the game at all, i dont know…

They got patched after release so they have been revised at least once already.
When they came out, they applied the confusion on interrupt on the user, not the target.

The confusion still gets applied to yourself, if you get interrupted by an object, the spear traps in the pirate jp in LA, for example.

Zhaitan.2578:

Am I missing something?

Karma, i guess.

I dont invest my profits in gems in order to make a long term profit on them as well by converting them back to gold when their price rose. I just buy stuff with them on the gem store, usually i buy 1000 gems with gold per week. If no new items interest me, i buy 10 black lion keys.

Rauderi.8706:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cavalier%27s_Orichalcum_Imbued_Inscription

Now, maybe the wiki just needs updating. Or maybe, someone didn’t think this through.

To sum up:
Acquisition
Salvaging exotic non-crafted Cavalier’s weapons.

Fixed your post.

Calae.1738:

Although to be honest, I’m not really sure what carrot they’re chasing, if any.

Gold.

Asurans are working as intended and fix to known issue already implemented.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Growth_Tonic

OP:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/These-forums-are-not-a-grey-market/first#post913290

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/or-advertising-space-for-grey-markets/first#post1671675

Mystic: Zomorros is fresh out of Monkshoods. It doesnt drop from the MF:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Monkshood

SpeedFiend.4521:

Oh look, it’s this thread again. Can we just sticky+lock one of these already?

John Smith.4610:

No.

Like 2 weeks ago?

As far as i know, you can only craft a dire ascended backpack, by combining 250 t6 claws, 50 ectos, 240 philosphers stones/40 Crystals and Vial of Condensed Mist Essence.

As those Backpacks had mf on it, you now can chose your stats, with dire being one of the options.

I am pretty sure that you cant craft dire exotic trinkets and backpacks. Ascended Dire Trinkets are available only through Fractal Tokens/Laurels/Guild Commendations.

Some of what he says still holds alot of truth still, here one of the core statements:

“Economic Concerns

Each of these changes will have an impact on the game economy, resetting equilibriums and creating some unfamiliar market forces—which is why we thought we’d brief you beforehand."

Thats why i think that the current high prices in certain mid tier common crafting mats and also the high price spikes in Ancient Wood and Arichalcum Ores should have been anticipated and are working as intended.

About market speculation (sometimes mis-spelled manipulation) and making lots of money on the Trading Post:

“We have a really large and really fast economy in Guild Wars 2, so many items will find themselves back in equilibrium before you even notice something changed, while other commodities will shift and fluctuate as players adapt to the new system.
What does this mean to you, the player?
If you’re an avid Trading Post player it will be a really interesting time, watching how the markets fall back into place. "

Especially the last sentence holds true value to me. Since that statement, i made lots of gold in markets, that havent been profitable before. But to find those markets requires alot of research and knowledge of the game economy. A profitable market usually isnt very profitable for a long time (there are exceptions, though) but thats what keeps me interested in the game and its various content, to be one of the first to find a profitable market and making lots of gold off of it.

Again, some people might call that exploiting but for me, its a game mode working as intended.

Solo.9027:

Varonth.5830:

Good luck farming these materials, as you will mostly get high level materials with a level 80 character.
So most of the time you will get Gossamer and Silk, the lower level mats are basically unfarmable.

This is what I fear it will look like.

I believe the driving force behind these ascended tier recipes and methods of attaining all the other ascended items is to require high levels to communicate with lower levels as a method of keeping lower level zones active, which is healthy for the game as a whole, its also a method of wealth distribution since low level characters don’t typically farm dungeons or have access to as many lucrative world events.

I think this thread went a bit off topic in the end, so i started reading the OP again and the next couple of posts to get on topic again.

I think what Solo said has alot of truth in it, yet it is something being overlooked by most of the posters here, me, until now included.

I think the main reason for it is, that most of the people posting in this thread are veteran players and not new players, that just started leveling their first character.

Personally, i only leveled my main to lvl 80 doing solo pve and that was over 1 year ago. I have 2 more lvl 80 characters but i only leveled them with crafting and i only use them for crafting and storage, not for pve or pvp.

So i dont really have a good idea, how it looks like now in the low and mid level zones compared to last year, when they were heavily populated.

Colin stated in his outlook on the 2nd half of 2013 that one of their goals was to give lvl 80 characters reasons to go into those zones again so new solo players dont have to level in deserted zones. Retrospectively i think they have done a great job with it.

Most of the time, when lvl 80ies are in low level zones, they are there for different reasons than the new players that level their first character.

They are either farming World Bosses, Champs ins Queensdale, Aetherblade Invasions or are farming iron and soft wood because they are more valuable and more abundant now, while doing a daily or two along the way.

All this results in more populated zones and caters some way or the other to end game and new players alike.

Apart from general gameplay and entertaining content the economy (rewards) are a big incentive for end gamers to visit those maps.

You can also divide most of those people that contributed to this topic (and many other topics on the Crafting and BLTC forum) into 2 sides:

One side is complaining about the astronomical costs of ascended crafting and lower tier mats and one side that made lots of money out of it.

I most certainly belong to the latter section, even though i probably divide my time devoted to GW2 by a 1/3 each in PvE, WvW and playing the TP. From those 3 sections, at least for the last couple of months, i enjoyed playing the TP (and the economy) the most. After that, i mostly like playing WvW to actually play my character and enjoy the gameplay of this game. While PvE in general, is mostly a chore to me, farming account bound mats and items. Even though I do enjoy some of the biweekly content patches, pve is mostly content that i feel I have to do and its not really the way i want to play the game.

That being said, the Game Economist John Smith, is one of the Anet Employees that matters most to me because he is responsible for the game economy.
And looking back to the last couple of months, i think he has done a great job because he keeps me logging in every day.

If you are active on the BLTP or have and issue with the economy in general right now, i advice you to read Johns blog-post again concerning the economy with the introduction of ascended crafting and the termination of magic find from gear:

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/economy-report-brace-yourself-disequilibrium-is-coming/

You wont find them here.

Use the Trading Post.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/These-forums-are-not-a-grey-market/first#post913290

Gnat.9405:

The thing that turns me off about this is the “personal story end reward”

Do they expect some of us to go back and create a new character to play through the entire personal story on when it is most likely that players will be crafting a precursor for their current main? Am I misunderstanding/misinformed?

If they would introduce an extra reward for personal story chain completion, they would reward it retroactively just like they have done with wvw lvl chests or the AP Rewards.

Or they just add another Story Mission that can only be done after the original story missions are completed, awarding the personal story end award.

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Calae.1738:

Vol.5241:

Extremely low risk, high reward

http://i.imgur.com/BA9LKsRh.jpg

I smile when I see this.

That’s how I used to play GW2. Then I realized I wasn’t playing GW2 at all.

You mean standing in LA playing dress up and making fat stacks isn’t endgame? Not even being sarcastic.

The Trading Post is the most balanced form of pvp right now.

I usually keep 100-200g in liquid cash or buy orders to generate short term profits.
Everything above that, i usually exchange for gems or put in long term investments.

Hard to say how much gold i actually have locked in long term investments because those are taking up around 300 bank slots atm, not counting stuff in my collectible tab, which is pretty full as well.

100g at hand I usually use for buy orders for 20-30 items that i know i can make short term profits of, then i use another 50-100g to put in buy orders for either long term investments or new markets.

This way i make around 30-100g short term profit per day, depending how much time i invest.
I usually dont do direct flipping of items, as i find that boring for short term profits.
Most of the stuff i buy short term, either gets crafted into something else, salvaged into something else or opened, then sold again.

xephire.8324:

Wanze.8410:

Its called Story Missions.

Lol story missions…..Try soloing Zhaitan alone.

Thats the last story mission of 5 different races and 3 different orders.

Up to Arah Story Mode, there is tons of single player instances. The Southsun Cove and Fire and Frost Living Story was also soloable.

Aberrant.6749:

@ Wanze That’s why I asked him how many he got… and how long the chain took. I’m just skeptical but I’m not unreasonable.

The percentage of cloth/leather seems to be pretty similar between all of those similar mobs drop bags though. The chance of getting cloth from most bags doesn’t seem to change that much depending on how many possible items are inside. It’s probably more like X% for cloth X% for leather x% for other crafting mats then the rest is split between the other more rare stuffs. I haven’t done any research on that… but that’s what I’ve seen from personal experience. There could be specific bags that don’t follow that, but I’ve used that area to level with before and it didn’t seem abnormal. I’ll go buy up like 100 and pop them… Brb

From 100 I got 26 cotton scraps. That’s in the same ballpark esp. considering the lower number of bags and possible RNG fluxuations that go with that 100. The worse part… they give t3 fine crafting mats… which are mostly just junk worth 15c-30c etc.

I also did not know that this existed for bags on the wiki (lol)…

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Supply_Bag/Drop_rate

I guess the numbers of what they drop could be tweaked from time to time… and some of the numbers are kinda suspect… like the person that said that they popped 2076 only got 394 cotton… and that’s really low… 19%… and that throws the rest of the numbers all out of wack for the grand total %’s.

I just opened 2.5k supply bags, got 990 cotton.

The sample sizes of the drop rates on the wiki are very small, especially for lower tier bags.

I opened over 100k containers (loot bags) in the last 2 months and keep spreadsheets that calculate profit margins based on my prior droprates and current prices of the loot tables.

Some descriptions of the various containers on the wiki even have an incorrect loot table.

Also keep in mind that the drop rates on the wiki only states how much supply bags had cotton in them, not how much cotton scraps were received. That number is naturally higher because supply bags give 1-3 cotton.

So the guy who opened 2k bags and got cotton out of 396 of them could end up with 396-1188 scraps in the end.

Aberrant.6749:

Romek.4201:

just did this event chain and it gave 46 bags – IT IS WORTH

And how much cloth did you get and how much time did you spend? If you read earlier in the thread there is a person that popped 7k bags and wound up with a bit under 2k cloth. On average you get aprox .28 cloth per bag. So 13ish scraps on average from doing that chain if the 46 bags are average-ish. That’s not that great : / You would need to do it twice every day just for the cotton that you need.

Compare how much you could have gotten just doing speed dung runs and converting that into cotton Vs. doing that chain twice.

If you’re happy doing it though, then by all means keep doing it. I just don’t see it being the best way to go about it. I don’t foresee enough other players choosing to do this either… especially considering they’ll be needing to farm more dragonite/frags/other stuffs.

Your calculations are flawed because you have no idea which lootbags I popped.
My loot picture was from 7k bags but it was 2 different kinds of lootbags.

Some lootbags have a pretty large loot table with over 40 items, some have a loot table under 10 items.
This means that a lootbag with only 10 possible items in it, would yield way more cloth per stack than a stack of lootbags that has 40 items on its loot table.

I also didnt buy those lootbags to gain cloth, i bought them to get Silver Doubloons.

You dont need to grind the fractal relics to get one, you just need a Vial of Condensed Mist Essence, which drops from mobs in low level fractals. This can be farmed solo in a couple of hours. It will actually take way more effort and time to farm the 250 t6 claws ,50 ectos and 24 skillpoints that you will need to craft it.

Since they removed mf from gear, you also get to chose your stats on it.

If you cant face a couple of hours farming ordinary mobs in fractals solo, you dont deserve an ascended backpiece.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/There_with_Yakkington:_A_Traveler's_Tale

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vial_of_Condensed_Mists_Essence

Its called Story Missions.

Its You.

Ulion.5476:

I am not sure how A-net will make jeweler useful to max 500. Most players should have ascended trinkets. What will we look forward to if you max jeweler? The 500 jeweler craft may shock everyone and be very worthwhile or just be another way to get ascended trinket.

Infusions.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Wanze.8410:

Givers was introduced during Winters Day and currently there is no influx of supply for the crafting mats (snowflakes), so you cant get those stats for ascended weapons right now.
I wouldnt be surprised though, if they introduce a recipe for ascended givers inscriptions/Insignias during this years wintersday patch.

Yet Sentinel’s weapons are available via ascended weapons and their supply of materials is likewise cut off (and smaller, since it was a shorter timeframe and much more limited access to Azurite)

With the patch that introduced ascended weapon crafting, they also made exotic sentinel inscriptions available from the guild commendations vendor for 10 commendations and 80 silver.

They did this to make sentinel inscriptions available for everyone to use them in ascended weapon crafting.

Azurite has nothing to do with sentinel inscriptions btw, it is just used for jewelcrafting.

If you find a build that takes advantage of all the stats on them, they are great, especially in wvw because you are balanced across the board and enemies are not used to fight those builds. I went full ascended celestial (6 trinkets, 3 weapons) and exotic armor on my warrior, just to try it out. I didnt use Divinity Runes or Revelry Star Cake though becasue i wanted to use my Runes/Sigils/Traits/Nourishments to tweak my build a little bit more into stats that i was lacking.

With 3,200 armor and attack and 26k health i had pretty good dps and sustain, while still being able to utilize healing and condi damage

Cynz.9437:

too easy to abuse on some classes

put long ICD on effect or something :/

inb4 condition removals: not everyone is guardian and that crap can be reapplied instantly in stacks

Another topic on perplexity runes? Couldnt you have posted in an existing one?

Givers was introduced during Winters Day and currently there is no influx of supply for the crafting mats (snowflakes), so you cant get those stats for ascended weapons right now.
I wouldnt be surprised though, if they introduce a recipe for ascended givers inscriptions/Insignias during this years wintersday patch.

Bezayne.6459:

That picture has been confirmed by anet to be a fake.

Source?

You better start stocking up on cotton.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs

Anet introduced Soldiers to Ascended Weaponcrafting, I am sure that they will introduce it to armor and trinkets, once those crafts get ascended crafting.

Nay of the Ether.8913:

Wanze.8410:

Nay of the Ether.8913:

So why can we still not put superior sigils and runes in the mystic forge? I understand that them being the highest tier, it would be silly to try to put them in to make a higher one, but since the forge rarely does that for them anyway (upgrading via forge with runes/sigils is incredibly unreliable and low chance of success) surely they could allow for throwing some in for a chance at a different flavor of rune/sigil. Just my 2 cents. I’m honestly sick of how unreliable the forge is in the first place and would rather it not be in the game at all, but since we’re stuck with it might as well get some more (potential) usefulness out of it.

You could do that for about a month after release, then they changed it.
Its good how it is, you are probably angry because you bought a bunch of cheap superior runes and sigils with the intend to put them into the mystic forge in order to get an expensive one back.

You also have a 20% chance to upgrade tiers in the mf, if you put upgrade components or gear in it, i dont think thats a low chance.

No I didn’t go out and buy a bunch of stuff thinking it would work. But I do have a ton of useless ones from salvaging that are worthless on the tp that I would rather get some use out of than vendor it off. And while it may say 20% to upgrade, I would argue that actuality of that. Especially when I can put in 100 minor runes and get 1 majors back. I still have yet to get a superior as an upgrade from a major. That’s hardly 20% upgrade rate. That may be true for gear (although I’d argue that too, it’s more like 5% for me) but it doesn’t seem to hold true for sigils and runes.

I just forged 350 mayor runes, resulting in ~100 forges overall.
Guess how much suprior ones i got? 19.

Your sample size is just too low.

My guess would be that jewelers will be able to craft infusion once it gets upped to lvl 500.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Because charged lodestones are waaaaay easier to farm than silver doubloons. That’s why.

The real reason people are complaining? Buy a stack of silver doubloons off the trading post. Just one problem: you can’t. There aren’t 250 of them even available. The ONLY thing that silver doubloons really get used for is The Juggernaut. Yet their price is the second highest of any crafting material (non-Ascended). The price isn’t high because of demand. The price is high because the supply is ridiculously tiny.

TLDR: the price is a symptom of the problem, which is a ridiculously tiny supply.

There are 1897 silver doubloons available on the tp right now and thousands get traded every day, so supply has actually increased compared to start of semptember, when its price started rising. The price wouldnt rise, if people wouldnt pay the current price for them.

A silver Doubloon also isnt a crafting material but an upgrade component, it doesnt even go into your collectible tab.
There are plenty of non ascended crafting materials (gift of Spiders, Inscriptions, Insignias) and upgrade components (exquisite Jewels) that are more expensive than them.

Vick.6805:

juno.1840:

Funny part: nobody has done the math for ascended jewelry which is coming too.

I know the reason I haven’t done the math for ascended jewelry is that I have no intention of crafting any.

I think part of the reason people are complaining about the ascended weapons and the anticipated process for ascended armors is that (in comparison) the ascended jewelry is absurdly easy to get.

My guess would be that 500 Jeweling will provide you with infusions instead of trinkets. While i have enough ascended Trinkets, i still havent put infusions on my weapons yet.

I havent done the math exactly put stocked up nontheless on Crystals, Orbs and Exquisite jewels as well as Silver, Gold and Platinum.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Wanze.8410:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Considering I’ve gotten a quarter of a stack just from orrian jewelry boxes, I don’t see that as too difficult. A couple Fractal runs per day, some champ farming for about n hour, then doing core promotion, should result in getting pretty close over the course of a month.

@Nike: It’s been a long time since charged lodestones have been over double the price of silver doubloons. Each doubloon is about 70% of the charged lodestone price right now (and over 100% of the price for any other lodestone).

And how long did it take you to farm the karma for enough orrian boxes to get 63 charged lodestones?

About a month. Karma flows quite easily when you make sure to do dailies and monthlies as well as use the liquid karma in the boxes. Champ farming usually has you hit multiple events (more karma) and has decent chances at lodestones/cores (so direct). WvW is known for the “karma train” and I typically turn out a lodestone or two (not necessarily Charged) from Fractals (which has, guess what? Karma rewards too!)

Add in the occasional one when I salvage aether scraps for mithril/orichalcum (which drop from the champ farm that is most lucrative, albeit unpredictable). Yeah, I can see someone really going for it to farm a stack of lodestones within a month without buying any off the TP.

So can you think of any reason why everybody is complaining about Silver Doubloons and not Charged Lodestones right now, if both are farmable at the same pace?

In the end, you just need to farm like 200 Charged Lodestones in order to get a full stack of Doubloons….