Guild Wars 2

Omie.4519:

The event is amazing. Thank you Arena Net for trying to switch things up a bit. You guys are acting like you are suffering through some horrific crimes against humanity. Lighten up a bit. Its not the first time in the history of MMO’s or even guild wars that there is an oversight. It’s part of game development guys. MMO players are the craftiest and most resourceful gamers out there. This event only last one week anyways. Stop acting like Anet intentionally ruined your life.

Quick honest question. What do you like most about this event?

The two answers I get most when I ask, the easy loot bags off the lords and leveling speed. Two cool things, sure Id agree.

Of course then Id probably ask you what either of those had to do with WvW. It really isn’t a case of relaxing or being to serious. It is just a case of having the game mode I enjoy, really the only reason I play this game, broken and turned into something else.

It wasn’t enhanced, or altered slightly to be different, it was changed into something else completely. Of course you are going to see a lot of angry threads. Some people have a week of free time to fill up.

mulzi.8273:

yeah. I just popped into EoTM. Entire guilds are using the bug. Not sure what the allure is for these people. Some sort of ego boost i guess?

Im sure they will tell you something stupid like, ‘We are just trying to bring attention to the exploit so Anet will fix it. We really didn’t want to cheat but we had to!’

Sungtaro.6493:

My guild leader checked out the state of the T2 matchup this afternoon. I had already stated to the guild that I won’t raid till this event is over.

He called it the endless ktrain of zero fights. Actually I can’t post exactly what he posted. Forum rules prevent it. He officially cancelled all of our raids for the rest of the matchup.

Why he would he cancel them? Everyone is either in the Golem Ktrain, or in a group with people exploiting the damage bug. I don’t know what isn’t fun about that! Get out there and raid! =P

Crapgame.6519:

There are many who do like it though – I’m sure arena net will have statistics to represent what they want at the end of the day. Some of the /map chat I’m reading tonight is that they are jazzed – more WvW ranks which is 10x easier and faster with loot.

Champ farming / karma train if that is your thing. I gave it another hour – not my cup of tea.

This is actually part of the issue for me. You already have this in EOTM. So why not keep this event there? Anyone with half a brain could see this is how the event would go. So let those in EOTM who are already enjoying the Ktrain REALLY enjoy the Ktrain.

Why ruin a whole different style of the game play?

Faction.4013:

Wryscher.1432:

Not all that surprising, so am I!

it is hard not to make the conversion once you play a Mesmer, and you see that it does everything a thief does, and better.

Except gank people in 2 hits.

See that is my problem. Ive tried this whole time to not play the constant stealth burst thief. And the recent changes… well lets say it is less then ideal.

So mesmer it is. And it can’t just be thieves joining up. There are far to many mesmers now, lots of others classes are joining the mesmer train.

It is really good for leveling! And that is pretty much it.

Not all that surprising, so am I!

it is hard not to make the conversion once you play a Mesmer, and you see that it does everything a thief does, and better.

Jski.6180:

Wryscher.1432:

Knighthonor.4061:

Vavume.8065:

The crazy thing is Josh even suggested that maybe there could be other types of siege events, which is just plain ludicrious imo, sometimes you just gotta shake your head and wonder what they are thinking.

I assume these events are just for random craziness and funniness. not to be taken so serious. just something new for a short time, just like Living Story is for PvEers.

The main difference being when you do the boring grindy crap in the living story you know what reward you are grinding towards. So you can motivate through the dumb.

Here there is no reward. Just dumb.

First this is PvP its always serious i mean what do you think this is a game!?

Also pvp must be its own reward or it is NOT pvp.

I think it is a game? Which is why I don’t play games/events I don’t think are fun. I’m confused. Maybe try with smaller words for me.

Can anyone say WoW zombie event? Make it happen now! Don’t worry it is only a week.

Ra Ra.9423:

Just chiming in to say I’m enjoying this event for the most part. No doubt I had to rethink my usual wvw role, which is usually defending, camps, and havoc groups; to knowing that things will likely remain paper all week and flipping like crazy. But guess what! I hopped in golems with my fellow players, both offensively and defensively and we’re having a blast. I’m taking a break from all the wvw seriousness and enjoying the silliness and relaxation this event is providing. As to how the rest of the week will feel? Who knows? People may get tired of golems? We’ll see.

Hmmm. Maybe this is an opportunity to try out defense against golems. They’re the bane of my existence, and I dread seeing them approach my precious keeps. Ballista city here I come! (as I lie dead, having been trampled by 20 golems. lol)

I’ve been playing wvw regularly for a couple of years, and I’d like to see more people from PvE-land come and discover the fun of wvw – in regular weeks and in special event weeks like this. Golems sounds kind of exciting to new people (remembering back to when I first started), so maybe this can be an opportunity if we choose to make it so. It’s ok.. call me a Pollyanna :P (or clueless, if you prefer) I’ll be making the most of something different!

Id agree with you about getting more people in to try it out. The main problem being that when you try it out on a week that isn’t anything like a normal week, what are you really trying out?

HitmanHaydon.1053:

Blaeys.3102:

In game, the maps are staying pretty full – moreso than usual it seems – and people seem to be having fun.

As I said earlier, its dangerous to use these forums to gauge actual community interest/involvement in something like this. Even forgetting that the forums are only a small representation of the game, its important to realize that a small negative element here browbeats anyone who disagrees with their perception – to the point where many choose to remain silent simply to avoid the inevitable attack. Makes for very one sided conversations.

Its full of PvErs and karma trainers who’ll be gone next week.
But will all the real WvW players be back thats the question.

Well it is a good way to level altos for sure!

Blaeys.3102:

In game, the maps are staying pretty full – moreso than usual it seems – and people seem to be having fun.

As I said earlier, its dangerous to use these forums to gauge actual community interest/involvement in something like this. Even forgetting that the forums are only a small representation of the game, its important to realize that a small negative element here browbeats anyone who disagrees with their perception – to the point where many choose to remain silent simply to avoid the inevitable attack. Makes for very one sided conversations.

It depends on the server I’d imagine. Just like using the forum to gauge actual interest maybe bad, using your own personal server is probably just as bad. For example more ‘evidence’.
Last week our server was able to Q all 4 maps all of them to 20-30 for several hours. This week 1 hour after reset, there was 1 Q and shortly after that there was none.

TJgalon.5012:

it a week long event, so, afrai it just how it going to be a little bit. Sometimes it sucks, but losing is part of the game, and as someone who loses a lot, it not to bad, lol.

The video is actually about the bug the golems have right now allowing people cheat. I know you are on defend duty, but at least watch the videos and figure out what the thread is about before you post. Or did you? And you are so clueless in wvw you couldn’t tell the insane damage that fella was doing?

no no you guys are all wrong. When you log on you are in a pve area, so you don’t only www. Duh.

Knighthonor.4061:

Vavume.8065:

The crazy thing is Josh even suggested that maybe there could be other types of siege events, which is just plain ludicrious imo, sometimes you just gotta shake your head and wonder what they are thinking.

I assume these events are just for random craziness and funniness. not to be taken so serious. just something new for a short time, just like Living Story is for PvEers.

The main difference being when you do the boring grindy crap in the living story you know what reward you are grinding towards. So you can motivate through the dumb.

Here there is no reward. Just dumb.

That is a good idea. Ill try that.

Thanks

As the title suggest i am curious if needle trap works?

I spent a couple hours the other night trying it out and it never did a thing. Is there something i am missing? I was even messing around with condition stacking and duration and got the poison up to something like 19seconds but still, no joy. No immob no condition bouncy numbers.

I even suicide bombed with it just so i cound see. Nothing.

Maybe my needle is just to small…

Random.4691:

ArchonWing.9480:

Johje Holan.4607:

What happened to NSP? A few weeks ago they were up in T3 and not doing too bad.

Coverage, and I imagine a constant flurry of RNG matchups that kept putting them higher. From the SBI view, it would seem NSP hung around mostly due to their rather strong defensive and scouting network. Generally, their stuff is very hard to karma train capture, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this discourages attackers rather than be a malicious 2v1 situation.

This is speculation, of course and also turning into an MU thread.

My honest take on it is, NSP had a band wagon, it wasn’t a huge one but it was enough to cause disparity in T4. They seemed perfectly fine when they could easily win with little to no competition. Then they rolled T3 (really this was their own fault) and got stomped, the easy wins evaporated and they had to taste their own medicine for a couple of weeks. They finally got to come back down to T4 but unfortunately CD had been doing some band wagoning themselves, now there was competition, NSP had another server that could hold their own to deal with. People either left NSP or stopped logging in. It was all their own doing.

In short, NSP created T4 disparity and were happy with easy wins, when things got tough they tucked tail and ran.

Honestly the same thing that happens to every server, even without any transfers. You start winning people from your own server start showing up. Start rolling and there is a army of people coming in and loving it! Then actually have to fight and all those that joined the train go back to their pve events and you are left wondering what the heck happened to all your numbers that got you where ypu are.

It will be interesting to see of CDs pop goes down any in what i am sure will be a better match up in T3. Although id be happy if we fail rng again and dont go t3 for golem week.

Jana.6831:

DeWolfe.2174:

All the thieves thinking we’re talking about them. Sorry, most of us are talking about Mesmer’s abusing stealth now.

It would also affect thieves though and I don’t think mesmers/engis/rangers would care too much about their stealth being taken away as their class mechanics aren’t based on stealth.

It is actually one of the things that annoys me about my thief. The stealth on my mesmer with PU is like an added bonus. You are decent without and can build for it. Add traited stealth and you are down right nasty. So you can really play either with or without it.

Play your thief and you are a walking loot bag without stealth since the whole class seems balanced around it. It is silly the difference.

DeWolfe.2174:

All the thieves thinking we’re talking about them. Sorry, most of us are talking about Mesmer’s abusing stealth now.

I thought I was the only one confused by so many of these replies.
Thieves are mostly a joke now, why does everyone think this thread is about them?

Most now are so glassy if you can avoid any of the first burst and pop them once, they scurry off to hide.

No, mesmers are the true stealth overlords now. Burst, survivability, and stealth. all in one fabulous pink and purple package.

Vavume.8065:

I hope not, displacement is a terrible skill, just feels like you lagged when it happens to you.

Agreed, they really need to add a visual to this. Like some of the skills that color the edge of your screen, so you know it happened.

Now it feels exactly like you rubberbanded.

On the good side sometimes it works out. Over the years the stealth for thieves was nerfed over and over again. So when they made Mesmer in to the new thief (high burst, easy to maintain uptime on stealth) it was like i got my old class back. Only with more pink and purple.

I imagine we will go t3 during the exciting Golem event… one great week after another….

I dont even know why they are still calling them servers. Rebrand them Campaigns or Allianced, or whatever the hell you want, and let people pick them after they create their character. You can still charge them to switch campaigns so they wont be loosing that money. But the fact you force people to pick them blind at creation and base population off that random choice, is stupid.

You know how much easier it would be to judge a campaigns population if you actually had to choose to join a wvw campaign, and not just assumed to be in wvw because of some random choice you made at creation?

To many people were probably making necros without wells. So really the necros have no one to blame but themselves.

I guess my basic problem is, it seems like sometging that could be fun for a couple hours. But once the novelty wears off, and you have tried all the things you ever wanted to do in a golem, it will be down right boring. Although i will probably laugh the first time i see a zerg of golems spawn camping.

Im just worried that after and hour or two the joke will be over, and since wvw is about all i do in GW it is pretty much a week vacation from a game i enjoy playing. I guess anet should be happy ESO just annouced a level raise to VR16, since that is the only thing that will keep me away from there.

I can see this being cool. For about an hour or two. It is going to get boring pretty fast. Because Golems themselves are pretty boring. Once the intial fun of large golem wars wears off there is really nothing left that is new. Oh i can take keeps with golems? I can do that now.

Im thinking antitank mines like the stealth trap and supply traps. You step on it in a golem and boom. And boom to everyone around you.

It is even funnier when you add in the fact that the current rumor going around about why the top WvWers in his guild left, was because he wasn’t so interested in supporting those who were more interested in WVW.

I like it is fun. The most fun you can have is after an enemy breaks a gate down make them chase you back and forth through it, since you can still use the portal. It makes me giggle everytime.

Juba.8406:

Play Mesmer.

Its the new far improved thief.

It is funny, i actually did. And i love it.

All this time ive disliked the stealth mechanic on thieves, and hated the way anet basically wants to balance thieves around it. Almost forcing you to take it, or making you feel crippled if you dont. But i fought on with my no stealth thief.

Until this last patch. Now he just melt. Even in all soldiers and runed health. He is just a walking bag that brings nothing to the table. So i went out looking and started leveling my level 20 mesmer. He is now 80.

And what a difference. Anet can make a class with stealth and not have the class completely balanced around it. Every bit of my survival is not balanced around siting in stealth and running away? Oh my! i have plenty of condition removal! I can heal outside of stealth! I can stay in stealth! I have excellent group utility! Oh my! I can not stealth and wont have to feel like im crippling myself. It is a brave new world out there! Phear the new Mesmer overlords!

I dont see the big deal really. I try not to jump into any fights that seem even, 1v1, 3v3, 5v5 it doesnt matter if it looks even im probably just going to stand there. But i dont spawn camp and i dont defend other servers keeps either. Ofcourse You dont always get to choose, Maybe im just doing it wrong.

Unless im in a blob, then ill blob the crap outta you! :p

Anywho that is the great thing about wvw, the chaos. If everyone wanted the same things and played the same way it would be boring as all get out.

Honestly it doesnt seem that different to me. If they had removed the artifical level lock outs on the old trait system And made you pick a trait that is the same as the tier you were on you would have near this exact system.

i could see liking the traits more since they are different, but really the system itself really isnt all that different to me.

I dont mind so much. The only really annoying thing to me is getting to the grandmaster trait and none of them are useful in what i am trying to build. And since you have to take one it is just wasted.

Warkind.6745:

Our new elite specialization. “Guardian Hunter”. Gahaha. I’m going to cry now.

Dont you mean Dragonhunter Hunter? :p

I think it would be funny if they made it when you are in your downed state your health dropped 10% faster for each friendly nearby. Dont get downed in your zerg you will die right away!

Messed up matchups suck.

Of course i would have loved to be outside watching all those trebs go off at once….

Editz- cause i cant speel.

I was tricked into this thread with stories of flying Golems and I see none! I feel cheated! all I wanted was a flying Golem, is that to much to ask for?

Anyway I thought all the pros went to the borderlands? who cheats in eb?? We are all just a bunch of casual scrubs there.

He does make an interesting point, servers that zoom hack will win every week. Just look at Crystal Deserts unstoppable record of wins… Oh wait…

The only logical conclusion to draw here is that the servers that beat Crystal Desert are zoom hacking more. Let’s get those reports rolling!

Eso also has some growing to do. I remember when gw2 came out the lag coming out of stealth making thieves perma invis, the skill lag when larger groups ran into each other. Both of those things pale in comparision to the slide show cyrodil turns into when large group attack. Heck there are actual stratagies around spamming enough aoe that the enemy group will be so lagged out you wont even see them or have a chance to do anything until you are dead and watching the tail of the zerg run off.

I do enjoy the ESO set up, but with removal of forward camps and the lag issue it is to slow and frustrating to really be fun for me. Their own developers have basically said we cant fix it, spread out more. So you design content that takes time and large groups to conquer (something some people in this very thread say is what they like about it) yet ask the large groups to split up and do different stuff because they cant fix the lag.

But dont get me wrong gw2 has made improvements as far as lag goes, im sure other developers can as well. In time.

But i havent played in a month so maybe they fixed it. Or enough people quit so the group ‘spread out’ to different games.

I wonder if they do catch him if they will make an video of them throwing an invisible person off a bridge so we can all not see him die.

Depends on what you are doing. But the biggest thing I did was keep my equipment close to my level. Usually stacked power and vit. Or if low enough you only have one stat I went vit. Makes it rough to kill any one but you won’t get insta ganked.

How often you re equip I guess I would base off how often you level. In wvwvw I did it every 10 or so. In eotm. I never really felt the need to care and just equipped whatever random crap dropped.

The good thing about it is now you dont have to Ktrain! Just hang out in the tower and win the ‘defend’ event over and over!

Just dont do it to close to the sellout guards…

P/P thieves are also over powered. At range unload can mow down people. And when they get in close? Boom blind unload again! Then another unload, and another! There are no cooldowns on me!

You can make these same arguements with almost any class. And yess some classes are better in zergs then others. But while zerging is fun and can entertain, it is no way to tell if a class or player is ‘good’

Now is our chance to strike! Everyone transfer to HoD and start PVEing! That will teach them!

Id also add in, it will take time. Ive just returned myself but i can tell you before i quit a while back i had a list of commanders id follow off a cliff, a list id follow until things got messy, and a list that i wouldnt touch with a 10 foot stick.

It takes time to build up trust with the nameless masses you want to follow you in to battle. So tag up show them you know what you are doing and wont get them needlessly killed over and over, and the zerglings will follow.

Ayrilana.1396:

Wryscher.1432:

Along those se lines, Ive just returned to playing after a long break. And i did see some of the content in the store for sale in the form of a pass or something. What is that? Is it a 1 time thing or can you do stuff over and over? Is it worth it?

You buy it once and it’s yours forever to repeat as often as you’d like.

Thank you.

Along those se lines, Ive just returned to playing after a long break. And i did see some of the content in the store for sale in the form of a pass or something. What is that? Is it a 1 time thing or can you do stuff over and over? Is it worth it?

Davey.7029:

There’s a very useful thing called dodge in this game, ever heard of it?

As an unsuccessful thief still trying to cling to P/P i really really hope everyone forgets dodge ever exsisted. But it is always shocking how many people will eat 2-3 full unloads basically letting themselves get downed and never throw 1 dodge. Bads killing worse Bads! That is how i roll!

You bring up some interesting points about community. How is the ranked pvp community and wvwvw comminity in ff, maybe ill give it a try?