Guild Wars 2

>Making it round based is a good start. 2 out 3 is good start.

>Make the map bigger it needs to be big enough for a group to regroup after a first death. Way to crowded. And even now with the elite specs in which classes have more access to stronger AOE. The map needs to increase in size to accomadate the powerup core class experienced.

>More exists at spawn to prevent spawn camping.

thanx man, thank u for the time.

I honestely wondered if the shattered aegis and retaliation are effected by ferocity/crit chance given they are boons that actually deal damage. I wondered this for a long time to be honest.

Mesmer,Druid,Revenant,thief, Druid.

Honestly more then half of the classes got the mobility to disenage or chase a motherkittener at will. Heck try running away from a revenant with stealth on cooldown thief. It’s possible but challenging.

I see no reason whatsoever to single out a warrior as if they are speedphantoms. While u have thiefs(albeit decent ones) capable of outrunning entire kittening zergs.

Nice vid as Always. well done.

I see thanks for your time.

So I’m bassically busy creating a warrior build that doesn’t use the semi mandatory disipline line. To compensate for the lack of movement reducing condis and damaging condition duration in general. I’m thinking of combining dogged march+certain runes and food.

But since the condi duration reduction doesn’t stack. But rather reduces the already reduced condi duration as to never get 100 percent condi reduction duration. I’m wondering with these new stat amulets, foods etc wheter it’s even worth investing in condi reduction. U can nowadays get conditions thicking for over 10 seconds.. Which is not really a problem provided u have enough condi cleanse in certain traits and sigils. or combine a rune to proc a certain condi removal trait. However at moment without disipline I’m really iffy on how to deal with damaging conditions specifically for solo/small scale group roaming.

So yeah in short. Is condi duration reduction worth investing in nowadays?

Arcaedus.7290:

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318:

let us guard players be quiet now and celeberate that we got off lightly. Guardian has been chased by the masses arguebly just as much as warrior and necro have gotten. And we got off lightly with a nerf to our initial heal and .25 extra s cast time.

This is nothing in compairsion the QQ’ers actually wanted nerfed. I will take DH bieng less effective in high tier and proffesional play then have it be gutted into the ground.

From a pvp standpoint: honestly I don’t think they could have reasonably done much worse without a very robust backlash. They can’t revert the changes from the last patch since many of these were qol changes, plus they don’t have a history of reverting huge mechanical changes. They probably won’t nerf monk’s focus, ever, since it has maintained its current spot since July of last year (plus it’s not op). They couldn’t have nerfed our damage any further other than minor damage nerfs to sword and scepter symbols; our damage has already been brought in to line since the trueshot nerf. They can’t really nerf our cc-access that much unless they wanted to completely redesign the trap trait.

The balance imparted by this patch was a good move imo but it’s not like they were doing us any favors by “holding out” on the nerfs.

fair enough.

Man genuinely a nice vid, artistically speaking.

let us guard players be quiet now and celeberate that we got off lightly. Guardian has been chased by the masses arguebly just as much as warrior and necro have gotten. And we got off lightly with a nerf to our initial heal and .25 extra s cast time.

This is nothing in compairsion the QQ’ers actually wanted nerfed. I will take DH bieng less effective in high tier and proffesional play then have it be gutted into the ground.

I have to add tough, that I honestly have to give A-net credits for not outright gutting DH besides me not bieng happy with the nerf on initial healing and the longer cast time on top of nerfing the traited fragments of faith. It does promote a tiny bit more skillfull gameplay however at pro leagues. I’m not sure this is the right direction to make it viable at proffesional levels.

But then again. I must say that I’m surprised. that A-net didn’t cave and kittened symbols and traps.

for once I’m not ranting.

not really a fan with the nerf on purification intial heal.

nice vid as always

no, dumbest kitten ever heard.

If they can make unranked not god kittening awfull. To the point that the imbalance would be even worse. then yes playing in unranked would be a viable argument. But since they are not many premades to begin with. The problem has only shifted.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the forum gets flooded with complaints on how unranked players are getting 500-13’d, 630-20’d etc.

A-net needs to step up and include a proper tutorial. Heck QQ more. net already has quite a few pointers they could take. I know that a lot of things cannot be learned like learning for a history test. But outlining the bare basics and forcing players to think critically can get u a long way.

Rotations:

>Outline the most basics rotational strategies used by Pro teams per map and explain the tought behind it
>Explain common rotational errors.
>Explain the factors needed to include in your decision on how to rotate

Dueling:

>Update all NPC’s to it’’s current meta builds pve style.
>Allow for simulated fights against said npc’s on points to simulate a battle as good as possible. reveal the npc’s cooldown’s traits and skills. and give a description of all skills used, utilities and traits.
>Allow difficulty settings and various challenges the player can work with
>Give a small description about said builds primary use and general counters to them

Just a few ideas of the cuff

Kuya.6495:

Anet has at one point said being in a pre made didn’t significantly increase your chance of winning queues. The playerbase continued to complain about pre mades anyway.

Anet recognizes that there is a difference between a problem caused by facts and a problem caused by player perception and that simply showing the playerbase the stats on the frequency of wins for pre mades isn’t enough to get them to change their minds about pre mades. So they made a poll. Smart move really. They do what the player base wants and when it becomes obvious that there is no tangible benefit, anet remains blameless.

This.

I agree with, still quite annoying that this is the route they have to take. Can’t wait for the unranked matchmaking complaints.

Jesus christ, 78.5 percent actually voted for solo/duo que only? I only hope this were just a few votes and that the poll last a week. Because if we do this. It means the following:

Unranked will now have premade teams in unranked vs people who are a bit more casual. Imagine a new player with his newbie friends getting completely kitten d by an premade team who played in ranked and did the guild challenger league, and this is assuming 3 party players and up fight actual premades.

Also premades who have been practicing for season 5 who actually preffered ranked play or were playing for rewards, Or had a goal set to reach division xyz. Now have to call of thier plans.

Nothing else has been done. In the end the problem has only shifted from one place to the other. Well if u realise that u are teamed up with 2 other players who play with spirit weapon DH’s and Condi Tempest. U’d have only yourself to blame, same counts for complaints in unranked of getting matched with premade teams that stomp the kitten out of your friend party. U have yourself to blame.

U don’t just put an group of players that actually takes the time to practice togeter in a game mode like unranked.

Anybody know what is going on? everytime i click on it. I get linked to my account overview. Or did i miss the poll time? Man that would suck. But atleast i know.

That is the tankiest Power Warrior Imo

It can be abused. People could whisper players about the other teams overall position and performance on the map. Heck they could buy a free account incase all forms of communications is blocked during watching the game and u’d still get spies relaying the above and more. And if A-net somehow prevented the same IP from having 2 account online at the same time somehow. They are still tons of other services, programs to communicate over vast distances.

I don’t think this is a good idea. Heck it’s not even spies. U can have an player who is good command the entire team as the unknown 6th member.

There is currently no alternative to celestial. I think elementalist is celestial by nature. Or rather is currently pushed to be celestial by nature. The lack of active blocks and reliable DPS and condis. on top with tempest providing lots of support and sustain traitwise through healing and protect makes me think that u are really better off.

Condition damage- Only bleed and burn are offensive and they are spread over 2 attunments, this renders a pure condition build highly inaffective against a player of equal skill level. u can easily cleanse them. Ie to deal any relibale dps u need power damage atleast

Power damage- Few subpar dps skills which are either channeld or have a long cast time. Only reliable power damage comes from Air overload.

Sustain- active dodges, blocks on a long CD. Mistform, afterschock arcane shield. between 45 and 75 sec cooldown. With the only working on short one bieng earth attunment overload. What we do have access to is auras on overloads. regen, protection and vigor on auras, elemantal bastion. signet of restoration etc. the ability to migitate damage rather then avoid is way more reliable then those active defences. The problem is that they rely on healing power. It’s why an marauder/palladin version build in pvp works subpar. And yes i know u can reach legendary with it. But for that to happen u need to be better then your opponents. This means that u need healing power atleast.

So u already need power and healing power. Then add in the low healthpool and u will need that as well.

It can’t hurt to have some crit chance and hope u can prock that fury.

I honestly think that while u can play with certain armour pieces. Celestial is definately something an ele need. U can argue that u can do some miracles in wvw given the right skill level but in PvP the above reasoning is why we went to menders.

Overall a somewhat good game

Balance: Every class can be used at a competetive level when it pertains to ranked seasons. When it comes to pro league elementalists can also be used provided the right comp. DH can also be used but has a few issues bieng used in proffesiona play Same for warrior. Still not impossible to pull of(Carrion Hybrid by Drazeh) but yeah Meh. Not bad overall. U will generally ask yourself why developers nerfed or buffed this trait or skill in the first place.

Build Diversity: That is something which is kinda there. But at the same time it’s not. Metabattle. com list the top rated conquest builds which are called meta level builds. These builds are hands down the best builds in thier roles. However at the same time yes u have the other options listed as great and good. U can argue that the builds that considered great can atleast compete with meta builds if u are somewhat better then your opponents in terms of overall skill level. However I’d argue that between the meta and good builds. there is clear gap in effectiveness. To the point that if u fought your friend with equal skill level on meta builds and had each a 50 percent chance to win. U’d actually get yourself stomped if he used a meta build and u a good tier buid provided u are generally of the same skill level. In this thier u will see more core builds.

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Conquest

Matchmaking: Honestly from my personal experience. it feel very random. While the last 2 seasons weren’t that hard for me. I found myself getting matched up at people either way above my skill level or way below. this seemed to even out towards the end of season 3 and was kinda okayish in seasons 4. But yeah to me I really don’t really know wheter to call it crap or whatever. What I do know is that unranked matchmaking is something u shouldn’t take seriously. And it’s prolly not something the matchmaking can save in unranked. Unranked u encounter newer players, trolls, vets who are testing new builds, People playing for dailies, Vets not giving it thier all.

The Phrase ‘’Who cares, It’s just unranked’’ is in my opinon a nice way to describe the game mode. to me the atmosphere is a lot less serious. regardless of skill level. I’d say use Unranked as practice for the very bare basics. but the moment u get the hang of it. Get your kitten to ranked. Because in ranked is where u will actually get a solid learning curve.

Community: Meh. I find the pvp forums generally very divided when it comes to class balance. Nerf class XYZ and rant threads are not uncommon. It’s my opnion that at the forums atleast a community feeling is not something u will find. Small groups is better description. Also lynch mobs against a class is also something u will see often. The flavour of the month this time was dragon hunters, Before it was warriors/tempests, then Mesmers, necro’s. Each class gets their turn. Ofcourse there is a class people will kitten about the whole year long and that is thief.

In game. I’d argue that most players know how to behave. However do keep in mind that sometimes u will get quite a bit of toxicity if u play a build or class that is percieved Overpowered. Or if u don’t play ‘’good enough’’ I’d say the community within the game is like any other mmo game. we all have our trolls here and there. PvP teams recruit fromt time to time. lively map chat.

Overall U should play the pvp is u like to play a fluid action packed mmorpg. I never expected an mmo rpg game to have such an action packed combat system. it really throws u of guard. It’s like a 3d figthing game and mmo rpg mixed together.

It’s not perfect but atleast good enough to give it a try.

I agree.

The lack of Amulets has made it incredibly hard(not impossible) to come up with new interesting builds capable of atleast not bieng instant fodder for thier meta version.

For example seekers and diviners amulet. I feel were A-net’s way of trying to make a somewhat squisher dps builds. But since they are outright scared of any amulet with toughness and vitality in the same road except for palladins. Most classes can’t use them.

Blue.

My dumbest reason: Blue is my favourite colour. it’s litterally also my only reason.

Agreed with the OP. for the love of the six human gods. Don’t kitten up the balance again. It’s not perfect but u can play all classes in ranked and do decent atleast.

I hope by Dwayna that I don’t come to hear kitten like:

‘’After recent buffs to DH. We feel the class is slightly overperforming so we’ve adjusted the class to be more in tune with the rest yadda, yadda’’

>all traps have 1.5 sec cast time
>all traps lose thier ability to daze
>20 percent damage reduction on test of faith.
>Test of faith crossing damage has 2 sec CD
>Purification heals for 20 percent less and no regen boon
>Traps won’t recharge unless they’ve been triggered
>Fragments of faith is not a stunbreak anymore.
> Aegis only heals between each attack blocked

kittenty buffs

>Spirit weapons have 50 percent extra hp and 10 percen cd recharge
>Signets have a 10 percent cd recharge
>5 percent extra damage on ray of judgement

Also don’t forget the obligitary removal of amulets

Menders amulet removed, Palladins amulet removed

Don’t even try. They will never kittening learn. I’m convinced that this toxicity is simply part that will never ever resolve itself. It’s this kind of kitten in which classes get nerfed into oblivion. Even after the nerf bats on thiefs, warriors and supbar DH’s in the past. the community doesn’t learn how rigi A-net’s balancing method is. And that thier words have power. So when this kitten happens where a class becomes kitten. people will then complain for having those players that play thief or warriors in thier team.

The problem is that people ask not just for slight nerfs, but substantial nerfs at core survivability or damage mechanics of a class without anything else in place or some kittenty substitute. For example people asking for thiefs evades to be dealth with even tough they litterally got stealth nerfed with an 1 sec CD on stealth attack. Or people who have a problem with everything of DH, Yes certain thiefs have saids for this, (U know who u are), Or for targeting to Always target the real mesmer,

While A-net is also to blame for such mistakes made in balance. It’s the vocal part that ask for these massive nerfs even if they weren’t exactly as how the balance team balanced it.

getting an actual dialogue between the forum community is hard. When an certain players actually try to give more insight on how to combat thier class. It quickly devolves into. OP u just trying to defend your class from an incoming nerf, hurr, durr, durr.

I think bymyself, No kitten, Who wouldn’t do the same in that situation?

So yeah, expect more, Perma evade thief, DH are super OP, can do trap damage and bunker at the same time(even tough they are different builds), Warrior is permanetly immune to conditions and power damage, Mesmers make too many clones and it’s impossible to cleanse conditions. Elementalists are absolute trash somehow. There is no nuance, The few posters who actually don’t speak in absolutes get thier voices overshadowed be them nerfs or buffs. If they are discussing nerfs, It’s never enough. The class must become absolute kitten. If they are asking for buffs, Some greedy motherkittener comes here and asks for overbuffs. Like condi cleanse on stunbreak(you know who u are as well).

I’ve come to believe that this is a jungle. Heck even trashtalking Helseth tried to be serious adressing certain issues in pvp, But ofcourse he’s just a mere A-net dog with no opinion whatsoever. He’s also just somebody that get’s carried by conditions appearantly. So far I’ve seen Countless or Countess actually responded with contstructive critism to his vid.

You are better off just barking at any fool that tries to nerf your class to kitten. If u are DH that get’s kitten from thiefs kitten him. If u are a druid that get’s kitten from DH, kitten him. If u Multi class and happen to agree with somebody,Don’t consider them your allies. Consider them people with whom u have temporarily the same interest in.

This kitten is so bad, That litterally my own kittening teammates in unranked are talking kitten to me for playing a kittening bunker DH. I bunker mid. against 2 for several minutes. i hold 1 v 3 for 1.30 minutes after bien beaten on by 2 guys repeatedly. I’m convinced now that certain people clkittene is so kittening bad that I never think that u will get a proper dialogue for the majority of it.

Then again it makes sense. A game divides players virtually as well like race, sex, skin colour, religion does etc.

DH vs Thief Hate vice Versa
Every class has a problem Revenants

etc.

When u get kitten talked by your own kittening teammates for bunkering 1 v 3. That was pretty much the straw that made me lose all hope in this community. I’m really just hereto vividly defend one of the classes I play/from stupid nerf this, nerf that arguments when i feel like it, Really here, But really just here to bring the same amount of hate and Salt back. Since. Nobody at the forums here is my ally. They are simply my future enemies.

amazing vid like Always.

GG

EremiteAngel.9765:

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318:

Nah they don’t.

you have not fought Sizer before then.

Just like I haven’t fought Helseth on a power shatter chronomancer, Or Drazeh on great axe.

Put two equally skilled players and u can barely call this a soft counter. It evens the odds more then it bieng anything close to a counter.

A dragonhunter that isn’t braindead. wont just stay in LOS the entire time and chase the thief across the map. They too will kite and go out LOS. Pop their shield of courage at the right time rinse and repeat if needed with renewed focus. Pull with spear of justice. Take in account the thiefs iniative spend when to burst.

Nah they don’t.

Tempest took a hard hit But so far in ranked u can still 1 v 2 with high difficulty. And still soft counter DH’s and offer support for your team. It still works at esl provided u have the right comp and hardcounter but yeah.It’s not kitten.

What kittenes me of is that i find this kind of nerf unjustified. None of the ’’dps’’ buffs are worth anything. Nerfs after nerfs after nerfs. And no other build in it’s place. And the core elementlist scepter focus is not what u call a dps build. It hits like a wet noodle. The only thing that has dps on par with current hot specs is air overload wich also got a 10 percent shave. And then be happy to not get interuptted you decrease your survivability even more and go with harmonious conduit.

what if thiefs moves so fast that they like go through solid objects?

They go through the fastest path possible why traversing physical space going from point A to point B in a straight line while avoidng DH traps.

Problem solved.

Because DH’s are noobstompers.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

so youre saying that those players stomping you around are trolls because you cant win against them? and them trying to win or being better is a sign of toxic behavior? if remember correctly u praise season 4 matchmaking as better than previous season, but now that youre constantly losing youre back at the forums again typing away. dont you think its time to maybe, just maybe its not ANET fault and that just u?

This so much.

These are your changes, Or this is this legit? if so. please leave the source with the link to the post.

Eroder.7698:

What the hell, is this dude joking? I don’t get these “commanders” who think anyone owes them a kitten thing… anyone can buy a kitten tag; if you want to try and boss people around go join the military, watch how quickly you get your kitten pushed in… lol. You sound like some young LT trying to bark around orders to some salty Gunny or something… get the hell out of here.

LMAO. I like this post.

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Pumpkin.5169:

But you do have to stick around. When you join a game, you’re joining for the full game, not for just when you feel like playing. Trolls are the ones who gave up or go afk without the entire team agreeing. Unless everybody agrees to forfeit, everybody is supposed to keep playing normaly.

This. I agree.

U play the game with losses and wins.

Stomps and bieng stomped. Where is the fun if u can’t even be guaranteed of complete matches? Since they are players who AFK for simply losing mid fight or not having his/her preffered team comp. Imagine matches were u are on a roll. And people just kittening quit.

But if a forfeit option should exist. EVERYBODY HAS TO AGREE!!!. I come here to play a full game.

yeah no.

this is nothing more then a glorified do as I said post.

I play the game the way i see fit because i bought it. If u bought the game for me, paid part of my electric bills, paid my internet costs for the time spend I play gw2. And related gemstore purchases to wvw. then yes I will follow a commanders military orders. And u can decide how I should play a game.

So OP. Will u pay up?

Agreed. also. the type of player that complains about these kind of ’’dragonhunters’’ are exactly that sylvari that took a kittening FTL, true shot with power capable of penetrating several gas planets.

I wager that people that complain about ‘’perma evade’’ thiefs are talking about barry allen.

Man this was fun as hell man. It was like watching a friggin DBZ fight.

it’s still somewhat feasiable in ranked not sure about pro league. U can still play menders amulet and do 1 v 2 but with increased difficulty. U will however notice that u are forced to use more auras for your own self sustain then allies. To bad this is the only good build out here. Which tires me out. It’s good but boring. to play support contsantly.

Ghotistyx.6942:

Why would it feel scummy though? Even the old turret build for engis wasn’t bad in that way. It’s up to you as the player to not put yourself in situations where you’re severely disadvantaged. If you’re strolling along and someone says, “you’ve activated my trap card”, well gee whiz that’s how they skill is supposed to work.

People who call any build “cheese” or “brain-dead” can go suck a cactus. Don’t get kitteny when people aren’t following your phantom honor code.

But that’s how one tends to think. It’s not quite a straightforward way of fighting. People had the same problem in other games for example Dark souls series.

Heck mesmers were kittened at for an incredibly long time, same for thiefs. Heck people still kitten about thieves. And that wonderfull ’’perma’’ evade. they have. Heck they gave stealth attacks a 1 sec CD for kittens sake even now. It’s because it’s percieved as ’’annoying’’, ’’cheap’’

The standard builds are actually a good thing. It is one of the things A-net can do to close the gap between new/noobs and average players. By giving them a working build standard to work with it. And so they will know the current meta’s working strength of a class,eventually learn what each class needs to viable and why and adjust to meta quicker. And if they have some creativity end up creating builds themselves.

Getting some kind of tutorial, help is where I’ve Always been for. It’s one of those things that will affect match quality indirectly.

Leaving a calf in the lions den is not quite responsible.

It’s because of the lack of a basics explanation for such a complex game, no rather a simple game with so many layers to it is also responsible for kittenty matchmaking.

Now a basic repeating tutorial simulating a pvp match. I prefer the battle npcs to use something similar to a meta build as well.

It’s really just the playstyle they hate. Who likes to die against classes that play hide and seek?

Or classes that gets thier sustain from passives that blocks. Nobody likes to see thier attacks fail. The act of having an action completely nullilfied, failed completely is worse then having your attack do kittenty damage instead. It’s still damage no matter how kittenty it is. It’s a glas half empty vs a glas half ful kinda thing. It’s why thiefs used to get so much hate and still do because ‘’they evade everything’‘. Even tough that couldn’t be further then the truth. It’s because your attack fails completely in that instance. Even tough u can apply AOE,time your attacks through the evade frames and simpy attack the thief whenever they are attacking you etc. Make them waste iniative and many more ways of dealing with them.

Traps give an AI esque vibe to DH figthing style so ’’it’s not straightforward’’ style. it feels scummy. It follows the whole ‘’ You are hiding behind your XYZ, that’s the only reason u one’’ trope. Even tough Meditrapper wasn’t viable in tournaments.

Well, due to recent patches, amulets have been removed and new ones have been added. Quite a few nerfs and buffs have also been implemented. I’ve done quite a bit of build experimenting and I honestly can’t wait to properly save them.

I’m wondering when or if the build editor will be updated? anybody got an idea?

yeah I knew this was coming.

kdaddy.5431:

sfxblade.3459:

I think Primordus is the most dangerous, even lorewise. He has been awake the longest (100years or so if not more),meaning more time to absorb magic, specially since he’s underground he is close to leylines. He pretty much threw out all the races living underground leaving alot of room for his armies. A million of destroyers could be below any part of tyria right now and nobody would know about it, until its too late.

Just take into consideration the fact that one of his champions was the demise of an entire race, and took the greatest heroes that Tyria had to kill him, the same heroes that fought against gods/liches/envoys had to reunite the charr/norn/dwarves/asura to fight this champion.

And he doesn’t need living beings to create an army, only fire and stone. I hope that we dont kill Primordus too quickly, i was actualy expecting him to be the last one we face.

I can agree with this but with the way Anet has told the story lines so far i wouldnt be surprised if we just walked in and killed him and then went to play badmitten on the beach with Kas. So 1 reason i think Primordus couldnt be as strong (just for debate sake) is he has been at war with the dwarves as well as anything else living underground. (the end of the GW1 story) Maybe Primordus himself is far stronger then Zhaitan but i would still have to say Zhaitans army were far superior.

Logic says one to us and the story itself is say another. Like the comment right above this one. Multiple times during the HOT story people are saying that Mordremoth is stronger then Zhaitan but never explain why. Huge pet peeve trying to get into this story as well as Rytlock and others saying that DE 2.0 is better then the original Destinys Edge.

Its like Anet didnt even read there own stories with the books and explorable dungeons in GW2. Like I and my guild mates just did the Arah explorable dungeons and all they talk about was how strong these dragons were and how all the other races either ran or lost fighting the dragons.

I seriously expect them to say ohhh Primordus is the strongest dragon yet and we simply drown him in the earth and then the water dragon awakes, bam Expansion coming for only $100.

Yeah I agree with stating that modremoth is more dangerous then zhaitan. The statement makes no sense given what zhaitan can do. And what it took to beat both dragons. However I think u can wave it away as an in character statement. Bassically an opinon given from the story itself. Rather then to treat this as a manga chapter and give the statement authortorial power. It’s prolly said just to create more hype for the next elder dragon.

I think it’s simply an opinon. Something I clearly disagree with.

Anybody explain what the kitten a ghost thief is?

People are just salty that mama tempest is not here to hard counter DH anymore and that DH got a slight buff. this caused DH to be underepresented in the game. They didn’t realize that DH’s dps wise could actuallydo something. But since they know don’t die instantly from every team focus. And have no Mama Tempest to hold them in her projectile hating bossom anymore.

DH are OP now even tough they kept getting shaves here and there.

Also don’t forget the classicall.‘’ I took a kitten on them with my XYZ build and they got salty or whenver I beat them, they use excuse XYZ as to why they lost’’