Guild Wars 2

Necromancer for sure.
Scepter/Dagger pump out Poison/Bleed constantly.
You also get a Condition transfer with #4.

Xahz.8406:

Zach.3264:

Honestly.. I wish staff would just mute/ban people like you. Stop clogging forums with toxic threads like these.

Just another thread crying about how you get beat by someone and that automatically makes them OP. Learn to play your class and stop moaning about everyone elses.

They were funny at first, now they are just tiring.

How is this thread “toxic”? It’s just bad; stop using buzzwords.

Because it’s putting a negative image on the classes OP described. People should play what they enjoy, not what’s best.

I play 2/0/6/6/0 and it works a charm. Tons of damage and good survivability through CC.

You can swap out Rocket Turret for Thumper Turret. They are fairly equal in my opinion.
Thumper provides AoE Protection often and has a knock-down, but it has a small attack radius.
Rocket is good damage with good range, has a lower cooldown on it’s knock-down but gives AoE retaliation.

I hate when people say “We should get X because Class Y has it!”
Stop comparing classes to one and other.. they are different for a reason.

I’ve never seen Spirit Rangers saying “Our Spirits should knockback when they die because Engineers turrets can!”

Elementalist are definitely the hardest to play efficiently. I’d then say Engineer.
After that, they’re all fairly easy to get the hang of. Mastering it takes time though.

Honestly.. I wish staff would just mute/ban people like you. Stop clogging forums with toxic threads like these.

Just another thread crying about how you get beat by someone and that automatically makes them OP. Learn to play your class and stop moaning about everyone elses.

They were funny at first, now they are just tiring.

Would like to see this for Blink also.
They already have it somewhat added, Necromancer’s Flesh Wurm teleport ability doesn’t give you an “out of range” message or anything. It just takes you max range towards your Flesh Wurm.

Iluth.6875:

Swimsasa Stoon.8936:

But yea seeing as you said you need to be good to play the engineer I presume that you don’t consider yourself to be good. Can’t blame the profession for that now can we?

I don’t consider myself good. Although I know from experience of other games that I can be good even when using an underpowered class. I’m just going to have to keep working with this until it works.

As for blaming the class, if a few people can make it work, but most find it underpowered, yes I feel that’s a situation where the class can be blamed. Rangers are a better example of class inequity

johnsonade.9547:

I dunno OP, any advice you get is good advice if you’re willing to agree with it. If you simply want to win, well I think you answered your own questions with rolling mesmer, warrior, thief, etc. And if you want to hear that engineer class isn’t for you, you’re more than free to agree with it. But if you want to be an engineer, be one. It’s actually smart to roll and play other classes to know their weaknesses and have a greater ‘rsenal for yourself and your team to win with, but play what you want! Sure we got nerfed to heck before, but we got buffed in some superficial ways that, were you new to the class, you’d be exploiting like a lot of people are.

People consider perplexity runes a free win in WvW. Up until recently decap engi was being rolled by people that just wanted to win. So sure, if you want to just get wins, go for them any way you know how, but if you want to enjoy this class then go ahead and play your way, but level up your game. I’ll never tell you this class isn’t for you, but if you want to believe that then go ahead. I work hard for each win. I’m not necessarily okay with the paper-rock-scissors arrangement we have between classes, but I’ll definitely beat the sleeves off of someone that’s used to that if they aren’t prepared.

Anyway I feel like posts like this are made out of a great deal of frustration that you feel right before you level up. So I’m glad our community was willing to answer you, but my answer is always going to be “If you love engineer profession, keep on playing it.”

Yup I’m not interested in just winning, that’s why my thief is covered in dust and being used for extra storage.

Thing is that when I pick up a class from fresh, I can get a feel for it and know where it’s strengths and weaknesses lay. So it’s like oh okay this class is good at this, therefore I need x runes, y gear, and z sigils. But for engi, it’s like a whole other thing to make it work. Like a bad idea that didn’t get implemented properly. It’s like they wanted to make a support class, in a game which doesn’t really support support classes in the type of scenarios I’m thinking. (small skirmishes with roamers)

I’m sticking at the engi out of pure stubborness. Though I’m unwilling to drop the gold on perplexity since it’ll likely be nerfed. And also I believe that condi builds aren’t the greatest strength of an engi, since it’s inherently a longer fight than if you were geared zerker and built for bursting. And a longer fight means more chances of picking up conditions, and conditions are bad for us because of the few purges available.

Still no clear idea on what build to use. People are saying chill is good, so I’m considering a bursty build with cc and seeing how that goes. But I’m honestly getting tired of throwing money and marks into this toon to experiment with something that any class can do better.

Condition build with Nightmare runes is fine.
Engineer can apply practically every condition, and often. They also have excellent survivability. Just keep practicing

Hobosack looks good on my Charr.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

Zach.3264:

Yet another “nerf every class but mine!” thread.

These are getting really boring to read.

More like buff every class but mine.

I dunno about you guys, but I don’t play classes that I think are underpowered, I play the ones I think are OP.

I have every class at 80 but Ele and Ranger. They all seem fine to me.
People can’t take getting beat by someone better than them, so they come to forums to cry OP!

Junk ring, forgot which.

+40health\sec for -300 Toughness is quite a large tradeoff.
Signet is fine where it is. Passive is somewhat strong, but when you get them low and their utility are off cooldown, I rarely see Warriors using Signet active, and when they do.. it’s a rather pitiful heal.

Dagins.5163:

Poison is not a counter to healing signet, because they have strong condi cleanse, and you just can’t keep it up all the time – as opposed to ‘burst’ heals, where you can time a few seconds of poison to reduce all healing income within even 30 seconds.

I wouldn’t say their condition cleanse is “strong”.
Yes, Cleansing Ire looks good on paper, but it only removes 3 conditions at a time(at full), can take time to build adrenaline AND has to land in order to take effect. (Besides longbow that is).

Azure Prower.8701:

Warriors are the most tankiest class who have the best passive heal. OH! and they have skills that cleanse all conditions on them as well as skills where conditions cannot be applied to them!

Warriors are fine. Learn to play.

Wut dis?

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I have a level 80 warrior. I’d play him more for spvp if it weren’t for the fact it gets boring rotating through the same set of skills and not dying. Rolling my face against the keyboard would be more fun.

Guardians are far better in my opinion.

I don’t mind new players, I respect they need to learn somewhere.

That being said, I hate how a person playing SPvP for the first time can join a tournament.
I’m sick of having to teach people what to do DURING a tournament game. I’m also tired of people zerging uncontested points for score.

Nothing more annoying when 3 people capture home point at beginning of game.

Yet another “nerf every class but mine!” thread.

These are getting really boring to read.

This post is the first i’ve heard of this.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume that the PLAYERS will have a higher chance/better reward than the VIEWERS.

Just a guess though.

Why create another thread for this?
Especially when you’ve literally added nothing constructive at all.

Jekkt.6045:

Still a bad excuse as thief’s signet of malice is 110/hit and ele’s signet is ~200 per cast. Guess what, their active heals suck too but HS is still better…

Here’s the problem with that.
Warrior Signet heals constantly, yes there’s no denying it’s powerful.

Though, Elementalists also get several healing abilities on their weapon sets (every one).
Thieves also get stealth which gives them free time for their CD on heal to go down. Not only that, but in my opinion.. majority of Thieves run 30 points in Shadow Arts. Which cleanes conditions in stealth, procs regen AND heals passively in stealth.

I crafted my Thief to 80, I had maybe 8 hours playtime on it by the time I hit 80. I grabbed a full berserker set and went straight to WvW. Within 2 hours I had it nailed. Since then I’ve still barely died. They have plenty of escape and the survivbility stealth provides with 30 points in Shadow Arts is unreal.

So, in my opinion.. Warrior heal is fairly balanced.

It’s already been nerfed.
Poison them and it becomes close to useless.

It’s also one of the worst on-use heals there is, when poisoned it heals like 1.8k.

If you can completely “ace card” a Necromancer, then they are extremely bad.

Even a full Condi build can -and should- be able to get you below the threshold to damage somewhat easily.

To be completely honest, I really don’t mind the AI builds.
What I do hate is the terrible target system. Tab targetting is extremely hard to get a Necromancer MM targetted, and it’s kitten near impossible to click an Asura MM.

There may be a way around this, but I’m not aware of it. If anyone knows, I’d be more than happy for you to tell me.

This post put a smile on my face.

Games been out over a year and you think that it’s “impossible” to kill an Engineer, but there’s been no other threads recently?

lol

Grappling hook can be used almost instantly. Yes, a lot of the time you’ll get hit by this if you don’t take any measures to avoid it.
Booby trap however.. If you instantly try to stomp them when they go down, after a grappling hook, there’s a couple of seconds window where you can stomp them before their Booby Trap is ready. If you’re not going to stomp them fast enough, then simply melee/range them down.

My baby Charr Engineer.

Turret Engi are pretty kitten aswell.

Keep playing, eventually you’ll get used to it.

I remember when I first started PvP, I kept getting so frustrated because a Warrior using Axe/Shield with full zerk build, eviscerate and CC utilities kept managing to hit me upwards of 7k.

Now that I’ve played SPvP for a while, I know to break out of stuns, dodge Eviscerate etc etc.

You’ll get better as time goes on.

You can make any class look like it’s played most if you ONLY show screenshots of games where X class is.

I’d like to have seen how many games were between these screenshots, and if they were hotjoin continued play.

Looks like King of the Hill, or a scaled down version of WvW where you have to attack and control the keep.

Haven’t really played Engi that much, but I’m using Grenth Runes on my Necro.

I get around..
7.5 sec Chill from Spinal Shivers
25% chance to Chill for 3-4 sec on hit
3-4 sec Chill on heal
6-7 sec Chill on Spectral Grasp
6-7 sec Chill on Chillblains
7-8 sec Chill on Dark Path

So yeah, it’s not often I die to melee in SPvP :P

What playstyle are you after?
Do you primarily WvW/SPvP/PvE?
Do you prefer range or melee class?

Warrior has several viable builds, but as a class I find it gets boring very fast, due to all their attacks/abilities doing fairly basic actions.

Engineer probably has most variation in terms of what they can do.
Engineer and Elementalist are a bit harder to learn however.

Mesmer is amazing at 80, but it’s probably the worst to get to 80.

7 Characters.
5 80’s
62% completion is my highest.

I have no reason to get 100% because I don’t enjoy it, and I can’t see myself getting the money or obtaining the patience for a legendary anytime soon.

Still useful in PvP for condition cleansing.

I have full ascended celestial trinkets and I still use them. I don’t see the problem with them..

The game is subject to change all the time, doesn’t entitle everyone to refunds.
I bought this computer 2 years ago, doesn’t mean I get money back because the price has changed

Dusty Moon.4382:

One thing to get rid of – whine fests like this thread…..

That was extremely creative. Now, if only you had read the thread title…

Nerelith.7360:

Dervishes
Ritualists

I would absolutely love these two in Gw2. The combat would be so much fun.

Gear type doesn’t matter in PvP.

Everyone has same stats, then comes traits/runes/sigils/amulet etc.

If you definitely are lower stats, then so is everyone else.

Did you know you can press the bar above your health (the endurance bar) and you will dodge?

The only problem with that though, is you only dodge backwards I believe.

I wasn’t aware they even made many changes to PvP?

I know I’m happy due to the addition of wardrobe though.

I’ve never known anyone to say “I could run in there.. but if I die I need to repair..nevermind.”

I don’t think the repair costs were ever a huge concern of anyones? were they?

Can’t kill them, but with a huge zerg you can run well by them (the ones at gate anyway). We had a group of us inside for quite some time before we got smacked.

Tanky guardian with sigil of restoration and water.

Crackbaby.3680:

I am a fairly new player to WvW and noticed zergs red ringing the lords chambers from outside of keep and other towers. I asked in World chat and was told it is a zoom hack. After doing some research, it looks like this has been around for a while and nothing is being done about it. I found posts that date all the way back to 2012 and I noticed the hack the last few days in the WvW tournament. Everyone has recommendations on how to improve this but, if it is still going on years later, Anet must not care. Eventually, no one will WvW except hackers and eventually not play this game nor recommend it.

after those “years” there’s still hundreds upon hundreds of people who enter WvW. How will with this “no one will WvW eventually” start to take effect?

• 400 chef is 7 levels for only 2-3g.
• Full power is the best option for leveling.
• I would also suggest using Mantra of Pain (casting between groups of mobs, not every time)
  as it really speeds up some kills.
• S/F & GS for more damage.

Staff is good with carrion build

Mesmer is by far the most tedious to level of the classes. With the new PvP reward tracks, you do get +1 level tomes quite often.

I would suggest using Mantra of Pain when leveling. If you cast it between groups of mobs, it helps with the DPS a lot. I know it made my life easier.

Healing a player in downed state should be reduced to like 50% of what it is now. 1 interrupt and they ress.

You can still TP onto ledges etc to save using stairs, you’d need to give a bit more info though.

jihm.2315:

dont catch the L2P bait they keep saying it to keep frustrating you, even if you find the real mesmers and cc him he still stealths or swaps positions with his clones with constant offensive pressure ,it doesnt really matter if you find the real one you will still loose the fight.

Lol, ok.
You’re making it sound like Mesmer is the god class, why isn’t everyone playing them in SPvP?

It really is a matter of L2P. Rather than constantly complaining about other classes, why not get better at your own?
I have every class at 80 except Ranger and Elementalist. I can do excellent on all my 80s vs any class unless i’m against someone better than me. There’s no “oh crap he’s a Mesmer I better not go near him or I’ll definitely die” issue.

u gt rektttttttttt

You still get coins from matches….
I’m enjoying the fast queue pops and having good looking gear for once