Guild Wars 2

CHILL GUYS, it’ll take it’s time but in the end it’s gonna be great and the waiting will pay off. Just like leaderboards!

What we need:
-people that actually understand the game.

What we don’t need:
-People that suggest adding torment, tainted shackles, spectral wall and dumbfire to necro in a single patch.
-People that dont understand that s/d thieves are a problem because of evades and their infinite teleports, not boon striping.
-People that suggest immobilize stacking in duration. Like seriously, in the dev stream the devs were like “yeah so these are the ele changes. Oh btw guys, immobilize now stacks in duration. Not a big deal”. The way they said it just shows how unaware of what their changes do their game. It just dumbed down the game even further, you don’t need to time anything anymore because it just stacks. All that bigger radius to skills and condition stacking does is dumb down an already dumb game.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I wouldn’t say the effort is the same. TP barons can make 2k gold with very little effort. To make the legendary takes a bit of mastery in all parts of the game, aside from pvp. You actually have to play, ya know.

You have to play. And after you have played you realize that you have 30% of mats you need. And then you go grind to get the rest of the legendary.

I don’t know what is the problem of selling a legendary since the effort for either buying or crafting is the same, grinding.

Divinity.8041:

Fortus.6175:

Knote.2904:

But they buffed staff water auto healing. It even has 180 radius when traited!!!!!

Yes, that totally fixed us, we will now dominate on the next MLG, I beckon we will have about 10 times the previous representation!! Heck, make it 20 times!!

10 * 0 = 0

20 * 0 = 0

seriously?

JonathanSharp.7094:

Just wanted to jump in and say thanks for keeping things constructive!

The idea right now is to see how the current changes impact the meta, and then do another set of balance in an upcoming patch.

The trait facts were a lot of work, but the clarity they give you guys is VERY good for you. So we wanted to see if that would shake up trait builds at all in order to see how you guys adjusted. Once THAT settles, we want to make balance changes based off the meta at that time. We didn’t want to change all the trait facts and also add in a lot of balance changes on top of it.

We still did a lot of balance stuff, but we were careful not to go overboard with this patch. Just like we learned w/ the Warrior a few updates back, sometimes the meta can undergo drastic changes even if we do VERY little to impact the balance.

We’re planning on doing another round of updates to traits for every class (either changing #‘s, shifting tiers around to make more builds viable, or doing trait reworks), and we also have our eye on a few “apex” builds. But, again we don’t want to shave those too much.

Thanks again for the thoughts and feedback!

Chap + the balance tam

mesmers jon, mesmers!

JonathanSharp.7094:

It’s true that we don’t want to create a “monk” style healer/support class like we had in GW1, but we DO want to augment the efficacy of support builds.

And you guys are hitting the nail on the head – we want to make it so that some of the support skills help allies more than they help you, but they do it so well that a support role is justified.

It’s a balance between dedicated support and builds that are entirely self reliant. Once the dues settles on the trait fact pass, we’ll be looking at how to improve the support builds with another round of trait improvements for every class, as well as skill adjustments for each class.

Why is it taking you so long to hotfix mesmer fall damage?

Incurafy.6329:

I still don’t understand how people.believe that Thieves have high burst, that build was killed months ago, and you can’t burst with an S/D build (the one that evades 3 times that everyone calls “permaevasion”), lol.

evades 3 times? lolol

You can’t say “every class is op” to people on forum because most people are not bright enough tor read between the lines. They will just think “IF EVERYTHING IS OP EVERYTHING IS THE SAME YOU NOOB”. You need to explain them. Slowly. With dumb words.

sigil of sanctuary meta inc

we have a broken matchmaking and broken leaderboards, but it’s better than having nothing i guess..

Kappa

what. where have you heard this?

lol what the kitten is this

the time it takes you to cast one 8k pistol whip you could have CnD’ed for 5 k and backstabed for 10

the only thing i’m worried about is immobilize stacking duration…

mesmer aoe condition cleansing, guardian aoe condition cleansing and aoe reduced condie duration, sigil of paralyzation fixed.
So yeah, it may not change much but you don’t know it yet. You haven’t even seen the full notes. Why do people always rush to the forums to make these kind of threads

If you read about the lore on wikipedia it’s really interesting, but it’s delivered really porly ingame.
The only thing i like left is pimping out my characters and make them look good. I enjoy pvp from time to time until i get frustrated with all the flaws of it.

isendel.5049:

Finally we got a map where standing still autoattacking with a mace isn’t enough to hold..and people start the QQ..

Maybe it’s not the most balanced map, i agree that some classes should put in a bigger effort than others playing it (bigger effort = brained positioning).

I laughed my self to death when a thief was stomping me (with my engy) standing EXACTLY on the direction to the edge. I pushed him down with my #3 downed state and he started insulting in /map. All he had to do was positioning himself 90° from where he was, he would have been pushed against the portal and stomped me 3 seconds after. Or he could have blinded me, he could have CnD stomp, he could have shadow refuge stomp, he could have shadowstep stomp, i can go on..but noobs are noobs, and they are fast to insult, slower to learn and adapt to new situations..

This map takes some brain. Don’t change it. The current conquest mode is imbalanced enough, forcing people to actually think where to go instead of just spamming skills will cause a lot of QQ, but will make a better game

(FYI, i play skyhammer 70% of the time with an ele (bunker S/F, 0 knockbacks)(well, lot of stability though^^), 10% mesmer 10% engi 10%thief, so please don’t say this is a post made by an engineer which defends his privilege, because it isn’t)

yeah bro, it sure takes skill to equip them nightmare runes!

Fortus.6175:

The list goes like this;

Warrior
Ranger
Thief
Necros
Engi
Mesmer
-hell-
-7th hell-
elementalists

Granted, not that bad for eles, so I will correct it:

mesmer
-hell-
elementalist.

Jokes asides, I think people really understimate the strenght of a perma stealth D/D 10k backstab 5k HS thief, or a Sword/Dagger with perma dodges is given how they can get away from pretty much everything and kill pretty much everything, specially if they use boons. As for engi/ranger/necros, conditions are too strong in general, they ned to be brought down or be affected by toughness, unless you have to put aother stat like “armor penetration” to get a percentage off. A zerker gear has 3 stats, for offense, no defense, do or die, yet most of the condition ones have only condition damage as offensive stat, rest is healing or toughness or vitality, which is totally unfair and make them tanky as well as bursty (dont tell me 15-20 stack of bleed each hitting 120 a second x15 or 20 isnt bursty, constantly reapplying, with added 2-3 conditions so that you cant get rid of it easily)

My suggestion is to bring eles up to par with everyone else, it seems to be the best way to use the elast resources. I mean, whats easier, bring down 7 classes to ele’s state and have 87% (only 13% play ele as far as the graph says, but apparently 0 in MLG in “pro” scene) of the population raging, or bring eles up to par with everyone and have 13% very happy.

how can a d/d thief be perma stealth without a blind field? Unless you let them CnD you 24/7, but you were 2k rating in wow so you dodge that right?

Fortus.6175:

Dunno, but for me that was a one way beat down of the engi, Im really hoping this isnt a bragging thread of your part by uploading this video though….. conditions are in a really bad state right now and all that engi did was put countless conditions which bypass any form of defense on a class that has the lowest hp in the game.

Perfect fight you say? I had those fights in the MMO-that-must-not-be-mentioned, where I reached 2k rating in arena, where all classes had an equal footing, fights could go either way, and everyone had specific roles. Here? Most classes cant hold their ground in 1v1s, you have the prevalence of Stunlock warriors, cond/minion/or fear mancers, spirit rangers, Sw/D or D/D thieves, shatter mesmers which are the best duelist. Then at the bottom of the barrel, past the first 7 hells, oblivion, netherworld, and Hell’s pit you find eles which cant do much of anything and much of giving away free bags in WvW.

This game has a lot of balancing to do before I consider its PvP worthy of recognition

2k rating??!!! ZOMG bro thats pretty impressive if i do say so myself
And you are totally right and you definitely know a lot about this game! Them minion necromancers and d/d thieves are so broken!
Not to mention that in your post you said 6 out 8 classes are good duelists so i guess that alone makes this game better than wow? Or at least as good as, because there every class has one/two viable builds, just like here.

Valentin.2073:

I agree. Dropping turrets and spamming grenades is really fun and takes more skills.

You need to stop deceiving people including yourself. Seriously.

because everyone uses turrets amirite or amirite

Valentin.2073:

You need to stop deceiving people including yourself. Seriously.

Valentin.2073:

ahuba.6430:

If you wan’t to keep yourself busy till wildstar, I don’t think you will enjoy playing ranger. It has 0 challenge and is hated by the community because of how faceroll it is. Also, longbow and shortbow are not the best weapon sets for rangers.

You will find out that staying at range won’t get you any close to killing people. Most of times you will be switching from ranged to melee. Like Pistol/Shield Engies, even though they have a pistol, most of the time they’re at melee range. Greatsword Mesmers have to go into melee range aswell. So if you’re looking for pure ranged play, you wont find it successful here.

That said, i think the most entertaining class to play is engineer. It’s the most unique and has a gameplay that you won’t find in any mmo out there. If you do end up trying to play engineer, I’d recommend you watch Ostrich Eggs’ stream on twitch.tv

i just noticed that you keep dissing rangers on your posts.

shagmooth, do not listen to this guy. His opinion is just biased because of his apparent insecurity with rangers.

Run a ranger and enjoy. ^^,

so all the best players of this game have insecurity with rangers?
dude, ranger is stupid easy to play, and there’s nothing you can say agaisnt that that won’t make you look like a fool lol

If you wan’t to keep yourself busy till wildstar, I don’t think you will enjoy playing ranger. It has 0 challenge and is hated by the community because of how faceroll it is. Also, longbow and shortbow are not the best weapon sets for rangers.

You will find out that staying at range won’t get you any close to killing people. Most of times you will be switching from ranged to melee. Like Pistol/Shield Engies, even though they have a pistol, most of the time they’re at melee range. Greatsword Mesmers have to go into melee range aswell. So if you’re looking for pure ranged play, you wont find it successful here.

That said, i think the most entertaining class to play is engineer. It’s the most unique and has a gameplay that you won’t find in any mmo out there. If you do end up trying to play engineer, I’d recommend you watch Ostrich Eggs’ stream on twitch.tv

PS: I read someone say engie is not viable. Dont mind them, engie is really good.

i suggest you look for the other threads 100% exactly like this one

Darnis.4056:

So an easy way to prevent point caps would be unbreakable invisibility for everybody;

I really don’t think a pause function would be good for solo queue. It would be so abusable, there’s a reason LoL has no pause on solo queue. If the pause is. say, 3 minutes tops, you’re looking at a possible 6 minute pause in a solo queue game. Completely ruins the flow.

besaah.2516:

How does match making system works?

it doesn’t work.

for a good matchmaking you need enough sets of players to match up with and against. the game lacks players.

the matchmaking is actually broken and does stuff that have nothing to do with population. like random games where one team is all top ~300 and the other team has 1 guy on the leaderboards and rest low percentile players.

Well here’s an idea I had awhile back about it that i posted on another thread.

First, pause would only be for custom arenas. Because of all the reasons you posted, it’s impossible to have pause on solo/team queue.

Since you can’t pause gw2’s engine, would it be possible for an admin only button that applied to everyone on the map:
-Immobilize.
-Invulnerability.
-Daze, to keep people from using skills.
-An infinite condition (to keep player in combat).
-Clock stop and node off.

This would keep everyone at the same health as when the clock was stoped, but conditions applied before the pause would go away, and cds would come off cd, that part is up to you :P
It’s obviously not perfect, it’s just a workaround, but it’s still better than having 4v5 matches on sponsored tournaments.

Last but not least, if this suggestion is to be the best idea you’ve seen on gw2’s forums, can i get a spot working for Anet?

or delete it
15 kittens

Guts.4967:

It’s quite easy in fact… You just need to program a bit… Even if it’s not implement in the game, you can for example :

- Freeze time / buff / dot
- Switch everyone to invulnerable mode
- Freeze everyone
- Prevent the cap on node

It’s the same thing as a pause… Actually there are a lot of way to do that.

By the way i read that on another topic from a dev, i laughed a bit

Also just wanted to add, keep the suggestions coming, we’re always listening for great ideas on way to improve rewards, and we’ve read all the threads you guys have put together so far!

Tic…Tac… 12 days, still waiting for an answer !

yeah it’s easy, you just have to code a way to freeze players, a way to freeze buffs, dots…basically you have to code everything, but it’s easy because you say so! And i bet you have very strong coding skills!
printf(“hurrr”)

Allie Murdock.8152:

FYI – Situational awareness will still be important with the changes coming to Skyhammer.

situational as in, beeing aware that it was deleted and it is no longer in game?

delete it
15kittens

its on the blood and madness release page

it’s not a matter of stunbreaking too soon. You just can’t stunbreak knockouts/blowouts/knockups.

silvermember.8941:

ahuba.6430:

You mean warrior shouts? lol yeah warrior shouts are so op.
Some people are just like bots, the patch notes might say “buffed warrior shouts” that people will only read “buffed warrior ****” and go like “WAT YOU BAFFED OP WARRIO WHAT YOU SMOKE ARENA”

Whether you like it or not a buff, is still a buff. This buffs can potentially add more to the warrior repertoire, the ele only dreams of that having more than a couple of below average builds.

it like a rich guy getting more add from the government while a poor guy gets barely any.

No one uses shouts. Just compare warrior’s shouts to guardian’s. Just because a class has a complete broken spec does it mean other options can’t be reworked? Not to mention an hypothetical shout build needs it’s own set of traits.

best necro solar system

You mean warrior shouts? lol yeah warrior shouts are so op.
Some people are just like bots, the patch notes might say “buffed warrior shouts” that people will only read “buffed warrior ****” and go like “WAT YOU BAFFED OP WARRIO WHAT YOU SMOKE ARENA”

It’s just like when they gave thief torment and noobs were like “omg thief so op why you gief torment hurrrr”

weird pathing wars 2.
idk how they want to make a competitive environment in a game where so much is decided due to rng. It’s not only the pets, its also the teleport that sometimes will work, sometimes won’t, god knows why. And it didnt use to be this bad until they tried to “fix it” in a patch awhile back.

It should be changed because rifle sucks. And they cant buff and rework rifle to make it a better weapon without changing killshot.

kirito.4138:

Should add skyhammer to team arena tourney!!!!

I love this map.

YES THIS MAP IS VERY GOOD
THE THING I LIKE THE MOST IS BEEING FEARED OF THE MAP BECAUSE OF NIGHTMARE RUNE PROCS AH AH AH AH AH AH (I AM LAUGHING LIKE THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vhfEgQVDAc)

radiculous i cant lpaying

It’s funny, because they said future update would bring all the living story chapters together!

I’d prefer more armor skins ingame…. You know, that i can earn by playing? This isnt a f2p

The point of the bloodlust buff is to make the 3 borderlands have an impact in eachother.

Imba skull crack with 1/4 the cd of most stunbreaks.

Justin ODell.9517:

Krayiss.4926:

Azshene played 1 game since Solo Q release and hes #1 and your telling us you increased decay LOL COME ON

Actually, the last time Azshene played was on the 3rd of October. You can view the last time a field changed on the leaderboard. Just hover over it and a tooltip will pop up.

It frustrates us as well when we see people that don’t play often at the top of the list. We’re definitely agree that needs to change, so now is a really good time to keep those ideas coming.

So why isnt the decay permanent? Why, if I play just one game i get right back to the place i was.

Justice And Liberty.4290:

ahuba.6430:

No, engineers are great in pvp. They’re balanced and stand a good chance against thieves. They are without doubt a “good class”. Engineers are not the best at chasing but they’re one of the best at locking people down.
Rifle is not that in pvp (imo of course), most people run pistol/shield and most engineers have succeeded that way.

Engineers have such a depth has a class that if we told you everything about them you would just feel overwhelmed.

Why do engineer players take literally everything you say about the class as an insult? What kind of attitude is that.?

As a matter of fact most if not any of the roles an engineer fullfils another class can fulfill as well while usually delivering either better utility or – in most cases – better dps.
I never said the class is bad or anything like that but again it isn’t generally considered to be good and that has it’s reasons.

huh? where did I say i felt insulted?
And he asked mainly pvp questions and since you never played engineer (you said it yourself) i don’t think your word is the best advice. My guess is you’re talking about pve, because in pvp they have been a welcomed class for a long time.

They can if they have bought it?…