Guild Wars 2

I recommend running GPU-Z and CPU-Z/CoreTemp while your in GW2 (Second Monitor, or GW2 in windowed-fullscreen mode, and tab between applications)

On GPU-Z the sensor tab will show you what % of your Video card is being used, If you are not maxing it out, you ‘probably’ dont need to upgrade it yet.

On CPU-Z you can verify clock settings and vCore volts, for CoreTemp you can verify Load for each Core and Temps. If your CPU is running higher then your GPU (in %) then you might want to consider upgrading your CPU first.

Settings to pay attention to are;

Shadows
Sampling
Character Limit
Character Quality
Post Processing Effects
Reflections

Those are the main driving factors of the CPU/GPU for this game. And if you bump them up/down and see large spikes on the CPU or GPU, that should give you a better idea in what direction to go for when considering upgrading.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

I apologize for my tone in the last post I made. It wasn’t necessary of me to be so hostile and I apologize to those I was rude to. However, I do still feel that the game is in some way unstable. It’s always a possibility that my computer can’t handle the game, but I believe I already mentioned that it had been running fine for nearly a month until very recently when many others began to experience the same issue.
Here are a few links to other threads that have popped up recently related to similar problems.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Sudden-Permanent-FPS-Drop/first#post3103996

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Skill-lag-lag/first#post3103648

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Consistent-Latency-issues

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Super-Low-FPS-with-high-end-Gaming-Pc/first#post3099495

It isn’t just me and we, the consumers, would like at the very least an explanation if not a fix for the matter.
I don’t expect immediate action as this is a video game not a severed limb. But I have payed for this game as have the rest of the community and I believe we deserve some info about the sudden increase in instabilities.

Your Laptop/Desktop or whatever is a old PoS.

i3 Dual core – Below recommended specs (you need a quad to properly play this game today)
HD3000 GMA – Well below Recommended specs (you NEED a dedicated card to properly play this game. Intel’s GPUS are garbage and just should never be considered for gaming at all.)

If your on a laptop, your pretty screwed and made a poor purchase. You can get a HP DV6 laptop with a Llano APU CPU and a Discrete HD7690M for $350 on ebay that would out perform your current Laptop 200% easily (Mine gets 75FPS everywhere but WvW where I get low Teens in Zergs and 35FPS near the Keeps).

If your on a desktop, Bite the Bullet and upgrade that CPU to a i5, and install a PCI-E Dedicated Video card (AMD has a nice 7790 for about $119 – Still think this is the best bang for the buck right now)

But, standing on your soap box complaining and making demands is not going to do anything but make you look like a ashat. Your system is weak, you should be glad it can EVEN load and launch GW2 at all. If you want more, you need to replace/upgrade.

Really, that is the end of this story.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

How many times do I have to say; it was working fine for a month with no trouble what-so-ever. Nothing else on my system has had any sort of decline in quality.
Unless I have an actual professional and not some random highschool know-it-all diagnose my specs, I’ll continue to speculate toward it being a game related issue.

Note that I say speculate and not blame. So unless someone thinks they can solve this for me, stop saying “it’s your computer” ‘cause it doesn’t fix anything.

You Apologize for your tone, but here it is again.

get off your soapbox and start being nice.

Real simple,

25% Base Run speed out of combat (Internal cool down of 8 seconds when first out of combat)

10% base run speed in combat (I feel that some professions run to slow in combat with out the swiftness boon – IE Guardians!)

No
You want an i5 or better
and something ALOT better then the Nvidia 635M.

That Laptop will NOT play GW2, or any game for that matter, well.

Also see if your motherboard supports DDR3 at 1600Mhz, or at least 1333Mhz. 1066Mhz is bottom of the barrel.

To Note, CL7 at 1333mhz is faster or just as fast as CL9 at 1600mhz. You want Dual Channel Memory for best performance. So verify your Motherboards supported features for Memory.

rjnemer.7816:

Hey Guys! I cannot get more then 20 frames (on all low settings) in WvW right now when there is any sort of zerg. While i can get 40-60 fps on all high settings (except shader) everywhere esle in gw2.

I have

Fx-4100 Zambezi quad overclocked to 4.0ghz
Sapphire HD 7850 1gb
8gb Corsair Vengance Ram

Is there anything i can do to improve my WvW experience?

This is perfectly normal!

on an i5-4670K I see the same things, except I lock at 25FPS. Its just the normal situation with WvW performance.

peacefulpioneer.9280:

sirsquishy, I understand that I may have no choice but to upgrade my computer. It just sucks that the game used to play fine on this machine, and now it doesn’t.

Wouldn’t it be easy enough to keep an option to leave out whatever new ‘features’ are breaking things, just so that those of us with somewhat limited resources can continue to play the game as we have been?

Thats why Vendors (AMD/Nvidia) work on optimizations for Games (Guildwars2) so that issues like what you are seeing get fixed.

When a Driver Pack goes into End of Life (what your Card is) those fixes are not included for that Legacy hardware.

Its the lifecycle of all things in IT.

Just be glade you got, 2006-2013, 7 possible years out of that graphics card before being forced to upgrade it to something more current/modern.

Stormcrow.7513:

The sad part is that the game is so terribly un optimized that people feel the need to overclock their top if the line processors in order to run the game with acceptable frames.
Almost 3 months since we were promised noticeable performance tweaks but not a single dev word or sound uttered about it.
I am starting think they said that just to get us off their backs.

it’s very simple

THEY CAN’T

They are using a modded (read as Gen2) version of the same Graphics Engine from Guildwars1. They have pushed it to such extreme’s with Guildwars2, they rely on the CPU to sort out the mess they caused by doing this.

There is no easy fix, other then building the game from the ground up again, and I don’t think ANYONE here wants to go through what that would mean.

So while we wait for bigger badder Intel/AMD CPUS (Look at the AMD FX9*** series coming out~~), just be glad you can actually PLAY the game, and it wasn’t scraped in favor or a rebuild.

Warrior already has a limit break, Fury :-)
same with a necro, IE Death Shroud.

so they are in the game in 2 variations.

You need to install your AMD Chipset drivers if you havent already.

X1950 is probably to old to play this game anymore. Any GPU that is in ‘legacy’ support has their driver updates suspended. With Legacy drivers dating back to 2010 (before this game was launched, and those drivers ARE 3 years old) they are not getting the Vendor based optimizations for games.

Eventually Legacy drivers will cease to function for new games.

WinXP is End of life, your Core2Duo clocked at 1.8Ghz, and your X1950 acting how it is. Its time to start replacing your computer’s components.

I run an i5-4670K, Have 16GB of ram (@1600Mhz) and a AMD7790 (Mid to Low-High Card) and I don’t feel the ‘need’ to OC for WvW. Heavy Zergs Ill see my FPS drop down to low 20’s, but Ill never drop below 18FPS anymore.

When I OC to 4.6Ghz (up from 3.2Ghz), Ill sustain 25FPS in heavy zergs.

BUT, even when looking at OC’ing you need to consider your in game settings.

Shadows – Low
Post Processing – None (Important, as it hits your CPU)
Sampling – Native
Character Limit – Low
Character Model Quality – Medium or Low(I run Low if Im playing Commander, Medium if im not)

Even on my Older AMD setup (PhenomII) I could do ‘decent’ in WvW (low teens to mid 20’s) as long as the in game settings were low enough, even when I had my chip clocked at 4.9ghz-5.6ghz(water cooled).

But Unless you are running a FX8350, or an i5/i7 Gen4, you cannot expect that much out of your system for WvW with this game. That’s how poorly coded GW2 is.

also, if you bootcamp the Mac into Windows GW2 will cause the Mac to over heat, as Windows has ACPI fan IO control issues.

logs.1493:

The video card is a Nvidia NVS 5400m, 1gb.

It’s not great but it should at least be good enough to run consistently on low to medium settings. I can barley do anything without setting render on subs ample which I HATE

Get your self the following programs

Coretemp
CPU-Z
GPU-Z

Run them all while playing GW2 (Run GW2 windowed-Full screen, so you can easily bring them up while doing the following)

While Watching CPU-Z for the voltageCore, CoreTemp for the individual core Clock Ratio/Utilization% , and GPU-Z(Sensor tab) to watch the Graphics Card Load%, Adjust your game settings until your CPU is at or less then 86% per core, and your GPU Is not above 80%.

I would suggest doing this in Lion Arch when 30-50 players are nearby.

Start by setting the following options

Character Limit – Low
Character Quality – Medium
Sampling – Native
Shadows – low
Shaders – low
Post Processing – None

Then Adjust the others to get the hardware stats in a good working operation.

I had to redo this to my laptop last night(After a fresh Install to a new SSD). And It helps a TON, as LA in a busy night is very close to a Moderate (not full) Zerg in WvW.

CattivoUomo.7198:

Kal Spiro.9745:

CattivoUomo.7198:

I like your suggestion, but as for the deposit collectibles issue, this is one of the reasons invisible bags were created. Put your mini there and you won’t have to worry about it depositing.

You just have to open your inventory and activate the mini every single time you log in, or zone anywhere. Also Invisible bags were created to prevent you from accidentally selling something you didn’t want to. I suspect blocking out deposit was an after thought. Or possibly even a consequence of the code that blocked out vendors.

Afterthought or not, the point of accidentally depositing a minipet is still invalid. As for having to activate your mini pet each time you zone…um is that really a problem? Press ‘I’ locate your mini in your invisible bag whose location will not change even upon sorting unless you actually move it yourself manually, then double-click and close your inventory.

As I stated in my first post, I like the suggestion, but the reasoning for it is just weak. Simply suggest that there be a special mini pet slot in the hero’s tab that always keeps your mini pet activated because you want it, and for no other reason. That I do support.

it’s a quality of life thing. I personally think if the Hero pane had a Mini Equip Slot I would start to use my Minis. The Slot does not need to be used like the back item slot (Check to display), requiring the player to double click the Mini Slot to bring the pet out still works. But removing the Mini from your inv to the character slot is something that should have been implemented in the beginning. Who wants to give up a slot for a cosmetic item, I sure as H3ll won’t.

Bastien.1645:

Sorry I forgot to add.

4GB RAM

Do you guys think increasing this to 8GB would help a lot?

Adjust your Character Limit and Character Quality settings under display settings in GW2, For that system Character limit SHOULD be on lowest, and Character Quality Medium or Low(WvW=Low).

If that does not help, adjust your ingame shadows and such.

update your GPU Drivers….ect.

Your system is pretty low end, and the game is very CPU Demanding. Im not surprised at your reported FPS in all honesty. I know you can get 40-50, but your settings are going to have to be on Medium to Low (Esp GPU and CPU big hitters, Post Processing, Sampling, Shaders, Shadows….ect)

smiley.1438:

AFAIK there was never a download for it, but you might want to have a look at this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/api/Gw2-Location-Tracker
I’m currently creating an app for Overwolf ( http://www.overwolf.com/ ) for this…

Thank you for this, this is EXACTLY what I have been searching for. Shared Map Positions + Live WvW Map Stats !

Does anyone know where this application can be downloaded from. The OP says ‘update’ and such, but gives no source.

This is the kinda thing that ‘we’ can benefit from if everyone is running it (to get an idea of a 20-30man guild positions on the map) and be more organized.

There are a few ideas I would want to see changed (such as a link password, so that if you dont want just anyone sharing your position data, you can secure that information between specific users of the applicaiton),

Me Games Ma.8426:

they did this to prevent ppl from stacking speed with running through the line multiple times

Not a good enough reason, you can stack swiftness from a guards Symbol of Swiftness.

we should be able to with the curtain as well.

LeeroyNimoy.1864:

Ursidae.7269:

why was targeting fixed, but for mesmer the clones and illusions or whatever count as players while cycling targets ? while every other class with pets being treated as non players…

This is because the Mesmer’s clones are supposed to confuse you (and the NPCs) in such a way that you target the wrong thing. They have so little health and armor, this is their saving grace, so to speak. It’s a common illusion-mage trick across many games in the fantasy genre.

My Mesmer doesnt have so little health or armor :-)

I sit at a nice 20.5k HP and 2634 Armor, and still have 3025Attack, 43% Crit and 56% Crit damage :-)

But OP – its how the Mesmer was designed from the ground up. If tab targeting didn’t work on our clones, then the clones would be pointless (aside from Shatter skills), as they do 0-5% of our base damage. We can pop Clones at any time in combat (just about anyway), so that is a Mesmers main line of defense, out side of armor, Player skill, and the 3-4 utilities we do have.

And for the Phantasm’s, you can see a different between Clones, and Phantasm’s, so they are not included in this conversation.

That;s because best appearance now maxes the character limit and character quality settings.

if you don’t have enough ram, or a good enough CPU when you set that ‘best appearance’ it will crash your system.

sobe.4157:

2 issues with your setup that I can see right off:
1, Your cpu is rather weak; and 2, you are playing at 1360×768, a resolution that would be putting stress on your cpu instead of mostly on the vid card.

What monitor do you have? I would think the native res of the monitor would be much higher than what you are playing at. If so, bump it up to 1600×900 or 1680×1050 and try playing.

1366×768 is 720p, lots of monitors have that as a native resolution now (hell look at budget laptops!)

But 1360×768 is not native, bump that res up to atleast 1366×768 and it should help some.

DantePT.4568:

Thank you all for your help.
I still don’t understand “why” but the 32bit is the only thing that changed.
I will return to the good old Win7 64bit, since Guild Wars is much more important than all the other programs.
Thank you again.

Just download the 64bit version of Windows 8. and youll be good to go.

You have 2 main issues;

1. Your GPU uses almost 2GB of ram
2. your system only sees 2578MB of ram
3. GW2 is known to use 1.8GB – 2.8GB of ram depending on your Clients settings
4. Due to #3 there is not enough free Memory (Physical) left for windows to run, so it starts to swap (Your Commit is 3724MB, thats 1.2GB above your Physical Memory).
5. 32bit OS’s only see a MAX of 4GB of combined Ram (if your GPU uses 2GB of ram, then your system will only see 3GB of ram, take 500Mb away for system resources and your left wtih 2.5GB of system ram)

So that is WHY YOU must be running windows 64bit (No matter the version, 7 or

Decent GPU upgrade, but Guildwars2 Isn’t very dependent on the Graphics card.

what is your current CPU and Motherboard (PCI-E slot also matters in that upgrade)

sobe.4157:

His budget CPU is the main thing holding him back it seems outside of the extreme budget board. If you want pure performance, don’t limit yourself with a budget so low. Much less since nothing high end being used in his setup.

People complaining about low fps in the 30’s when it comes to full zerg v zerg in WVW and such need to stop the whining already, yes, with that amount of stuff going on on your screen, there’s a reason the fps drops. Same reason it drops in towns full of people.

People are going to get low teens in a full on WvW Zerg on High end gear. Its just how this game rolls.

the FX6100 is budget, but its still a decent CPU for what it is. But the tools I told him to run will explain to him what exactly is going on with his system when those FPS drops.

Have you tried watching your system stats while playing GW2?

Such as;

CoreTemp (Shows utlization % per Core, and active Ghz/ratio)
GPU-Z – Sensor Page (Shows GPU % Utilization)
CPU-Z Verifies with Coretemp’s Clock Ratio and CPU Speed as well as Core Voltage(rather important).

DantePT.4568:

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Mem Arena ‘Default’ capacity exceeded. Attempted alloc category: ‘Gr Img’ Size: 8294448
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—> DirectX Device Info <—
VendorId = 0×10de
DeviceId = 0×1200
Version = 9.18.0013.2723
Description = NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Compat = 0×00100000
VidMem = 1975 MB

win8-32bit <- That is probably most of your issues right there.

VidMem = 1975 MB

Physical: 279MB/ 2513MB 11%
Paged: 1349MB/ 5073MB 26%
Virtual: 103MB/ 2047MB 5%
Load: 88%
CommitTotal: 3724MB
CommitLimit: 5073MB
CommitPeak: 3800MB

You NEED to be running 64BIT Win8.

Kaellok.8143:

Sometimes when I’m walking around Lion’s Arch, I see people with sweet armor sets. While most people are friendly, sometimes when I whisper someone about their armor set, I get less than kind responses. Would it not be easier on everyone if there was an option to “inspect armor” when you right-click on someone’s character slate? You right click and then you see their gallery with all their armor and accessories and whatnot.

Since this thread got totally derailed I’m just going to post my idea to you with out reading the rest of the thread.

I think that ‘inspect player’ needs to be limited. Anet does not want to make this a game of stats/gear. (the ascended pieces should show everyone this, 5-8% above exotics for what the ascended items are kinda proves this). The fact that we have players that demand ‘ping gear’ on group joins is another reason we need to consider this feature carefully.

I think that the inspect window should show the following;

A dressing room Preview of the Target Players Armor. Each Slot filled with Visual items only (6/6 Armor, back piece, and Weapon Slots(including Swapped), Underwater Breather and weapons as well) – Names of the items, if they are transmuted or not and what level the item is. But Not their stats nor what is in the upgrade/infusion slots.

The Players current Trait Build out. – to me the main thing I want to see.

How many Unused Skill points that players character has. – To Show us how ‘old’ and played that character is.

I think anything other then that will be a tool to create a rift for players to grief others over.

That is all.

I know this has been posted before, But I’m posting it again.

Running around in WvW Last night(there were 5 of us), flipping camps while trying to avoid the 30 player zerg. Opened the Map to verify Camp Status, to find out I’m getting stun locked by a warrior and killed by a pair Thives.

I don’t think we need a full screen ‘Interactive’ Map outside of the game. But I do think we need a full screen (Think like a full screen webpage) status Map of the Boarderlands that we are in. Mainly for Commander position, if Sentries are up/Flipped, and Status(Swords) on our Camps. So we don’t have to keep on switching between action and opening (then scrolling out or moving) the map.

Id like a full interactive map that we can pop on a 2nd or 3rd monitor, but I know that would be asking to much. So I hope that a ‘status’ Map finds better ears at this time.

I agree with the rest, stay with the 1155 Socket, and upgrade to a 3rd Gen i5 (K-Series would be better if you wanna OC).

If you want to upgrade the entire system, then I HIGH suggest a i5-4670K(Socket 1150-Haswell), and a HD7790. As that is what I currently run and couldn’t be happier.

shimmerless.4560:

sirsquishy.8531:

Under full load 70c’s is not that bad in all reality. There are things you can do to drop the laptops ‘under load’ temps by a few degrees if you want.

the first thing is to rip your laptop apart. and replace the heat spread between the CPU and its Heatsink with IC Diamond7 (Better then AS for Laptops as its not conductive). And since you have to tear into your laptop to do this, you can clear out any dust that is tucked in between your Heatsink’s Fins. You can also make sure the fan is in good operational state (like does the fan free spin easily).

The second thing is to pay attention to where you are using your laptop when under high load and pulling 70c’s. Make sure you are not blocking any intake vents on the bottom of your laptop.

and the last is to get a GOOD cooling pad. with at least a 120MM fan that is positioned over your GPU/CPU for YOUR laptop.

With all that you should be able to drop that 70c’s down to 68c’s-65c’s ideally.

65+ isn’t that bad, I’m not being unrealistic it is a laptop after all and any laptop is going to suffer by nature when the hardware cramped into a small space is drawing too much power.

Great tip on the IC Diamond by the way, I’ll be sure to jot it down. I’ve heard that high-end laptops tend to have terrible thermal paste application between the CPU and the heatsink by default, do you think this might be the case here too?

My only worry is that while I clearly need to disassemble the thing, it’ll likely void the warranty.

Look for warranty stickers. If there are none, then you have nothing to worry about. Just be sure to use an ESD Strap or a ESD Mat if you have never taken a laptop apart before (helps reduce the risk of ESD against the Motherboard and such).

Burnfall.9573:

Did you missread Jatycre post, “I’ve got many other games, including MMOs, and can crank any of them up to max settings without any problem at all. Guild Wars 2 is the only game that has this problem”.

I have 16 Gig of Memory Ram yet still crash,

yet it is alao hardware issue?

Just cause you have 16GB of ram doesn’t mean that isn’t the issue. How much ram does any of your other games ever tend to use up? If they are all 32bit clients not a single one will use more then 3.25GB. Thats why I asked what the memory foot print looked like for GW2 when it crashes the system.

Jatycre.5168:

I thought about that Stormcrow, but after much testing, I realize it can’t be my PSU. I’ve used several monitors to test all the lines and rails in my PSU, nothing really fluctuates. On top of that, I can’t replicate the issue with any other piece of software, be it a game, application, or even video editing software. I’ve got many other games, including MMOs, and can crank any of them up to max settings without any problem at all. Guild Wars 2 is the only game that has this problem. That’s what assures me this is not a hardware related issue.

Did you test your Rails while they were under load? If not, your readings dont mean squat.

When GW2 Crashes your system, do you happen to know how much ram the application has eaten? I had this crash happening to one of my spare gaming systems, found out it was a bad stick of ram. only 512KB of memory was bad, but as soon as any application hit that block ‘BAM’ system reset. GW2.exe was the main application as it was using about 2.6GB of ram. I just wish I knew of a way to visually see what the memory mapping of the applications looked like over the 4 banks of ram I have running.

Avelos.6798:

It’s not a GPU heavy game. your 7870 is eating this game alive. a Radeon HD 7790 has no problem maxing this game I bet. It’s your CPU I am afraid. I get terrible FPS in some places where there’s a tonne of people. I was standing at the portals to wvw yesterday in Black Gate at reset, and my fps was down to 8-7 fps just looking at the people standing there.
An intel processor with your same specs would probably see double the FPS in most areas excluding wvw.

FYI, comparing an MMO to an FPS optimized for AMD is not a comparison at all.

Running an i5-4670k (Default Clocks) HD7790, 8GB 1600Mhz Crucial ‘budget’ ram. I get a steady 26FPS in a full on zerg in WvW running high settings, except for Sampling-Native, Shadows-Low, Post Processing-None, Character Limit-Low, character quality-Medium.

So while the game IS poorly optimized. It is possible to get ‘OK’ FPS if you throw hardware at it.

Rayrran.5023:

This game it looks that is horrible optimized on high-end cards. I have 15-31 FPS ooutside of the town and inside town it goes to 10 FPS.

My specs are:
AMD FX-6100 3.3GHZ (Stock)
MSi AMD 7870 OC EDITION (AMD 13.10 BETA 2 Driver)
8GB RAM 1333HZ
WINDOW 7 64-bits with SP1
SEAGATE 500gb HDD
MSi 760GM-P23

Maybe is the drivers but I seem to find the problem with other drivers, and this PC runs Battlefield 4 beta in 40+ FPS. Thank you and please try to fix this AreaNet.

Download CPU-Z, and when its open goto the Mainboard tab. What is the Link Width and the Max Supported in the Graphics Interface section.

OP: You’ll want to be careful with running GW2 in a VM AND on the host OS at the same time. It can crash your system if you over utilize the VM.

I would put a FPS Limit of 35-45 on the VM, in the VM options set the shared Video Ram to be 512MB (it will use more dynamically, but 512MB is reserved for the VM when its launched), and make sure nested paging is enabled (for better memory management). that will help with over all performance between the VM and Host when BOTH are running the same application.

Vlad Morbius.1759:

These are the main changes that i made in the graphics options in game:
- Render Sampling (Native)
- Character Mode Limit (dropped it from high to medium)
- Character Model Quality (dropped it from high to medium)

If you are just now using Native, you were using SuperSample before? Just curious as I know that ‘can’ use more memory as the textures are a lot more DPI on Super then native.

Vlad Morbius.1759:

I’ve been having the same issue for about a month, even went as far as changing out my memory. I am running an Nvidia Ge-force 560ti and have tried every driver out there finally settling on the 320.49 beta. Unfortunately this didn’t fix it so i decided to try one more thing. My wife has the exact same system as mine and has never crashed; the only difference was the graphic settings so i mirrored hers and ran 9 straight hours yesterday without a hiccup.

These are the main changes that i made in the graphics options in game:
- Render Sampling (Native)
- Character Mode Limit (dropped it from high to medium)
- Character Model Quality (dropped it from high to medium)

I hope this helps, and i will continue to work towards isolating what is causing this problem but for now at least i can play without worrying about crashing.

That would indicate a memory issue with your system.

Running character models on High increases the games (GW2.EXE) memory map usage in the system.

I would download memtest86+ and run it for 36 hours straight to rule out memory errors.

Under full load 70c’s is not that bad in all reality. There are things you can do to drop the laptops ‘under load’ temps by a few degrees if you want.

the first thing is to rip your laptop apart. and replace the heat spread between the CPU and its Heatsink with IC Diamond7 (Better then AS for Laptops as its not conductive). And since you have to tear into your laptop to do this, you can clear out any dust that is tucked in between your Heatsink’s Fins. You can also make sure the fan is in good operational state (like does the fan free spin easily).

The second thing is to pay attention to where you are using your laptop when under high load and pulling 70c’s. Make sure you are not blocking any intake vents on the bottom of your laptop.

and the last is to get a GOOD cooling pad. with at least a 120MM fan that is positioned over your GPU/CPU for YOUR laptop.

With all that you should be able to drop that 70c’s down to 68c’s-65c’s ideally.

Glad to hear it worked out for ya :-)

Rcox.4076:

I’ve done all those things, and still get the error.
It’s deff something on anets side.

No, its going to be something with your PC. Anet doesnt inject anything in the .dat file while playing. that is done during the Launchers update process. So Anet can’t corrupt files from their end unless its done during patching.

This would point to a anti-virus solution, infection, bad HDD, or bad RAM then anything else.

Run -repair again, and see if different files show up in the crash log.

if its the same file each time, then I would do a sector scan on your HDD to make sure there are no bad sectors (you can read SMART data and see if there is any data in the sector reallocation field for a quicker reference.).

If its different files each time, Try playing with your Anti-virus solution disabled (or add an exception to the .dat files location in your AV Scanner’s Engine). And then if that still fails follow up with a memory test.

Download Memtest86+, youll want the ISO, Download and Burn. then run the Memtest86+ for 24-36 hours and see if there are any Memory Mapping Errors.

I’m Willing to bet this issue is going to be one of these 3 root causes.

Behellagh.1468:

sirsquishy.8531:

Behellagh.1468:

That motherboard has what looks like 3 PCIe x16 slots. They are not. Only the one closest to the CPU is a true x16 slot. The remaining two are an x1 and an x4. Why they bothered to dress an x1 slot up as an x16 is beyond me.

selling point.

Its just like the Board I just got. 3 PCI-E Slots, but only 16x Lanes total (so either x16 x0 x0, or X8 X8 x0 or X8 X4 X4) its stupid.

Actually that configuration makes a lot more sense. Heck if they simply swapped the order of the x1 and x4 on the ASRock that at least makes a so-so CrossfireX arrangement, x16 x4, than x16 x1.

yea, But when I had all my PCI-E Slots populated (HD7790 in slot 1, at 8x, Quad Intel GB 8x in slot 2, and my 10GB Dual Intel in slot 3 at 4x) My performance was terrible. As long as my GPU was running at 8x, my max FPS was 18-24. As soon as i pulled the other cards out and my GPU was at 16x, 60FPS high settings in LA on a busy night.

I know the Difference of 16x vs 8x should be minimal, but it wasn’t for me. My Old board had 4 16x Slots (1 and 3 where tied to the CPU, and 2 and 4 were tied to…cant remember) and 1 4x and 2 1x’s. But that was AMD on a AM3 MB.

Going from that to Intel was Night/day, and not looking back :-)

yea, it will be. You’ll want to look at your north bridge settings and look at the PCI-E options. They ‘should’ All be auto. You can manually set link speeds in MOST BIOS’s/EFI settings. (Auto, 16x, 8x, 4x, 1×...ect.)

I would just reset the BIOS to defaults, make sure your Boot Device is setup correctly (RAID, ACHI, or IDE/Compatible mode) then make sure you boot to your HDD first. and go from there.

Launch the game with -repair amended to the shortcut.

Sounds like the game’s .DAT file isn’t getting closed cleanly and whatever file(s) inside the .DAT are locked out when this happens, get damaged.

PEAK Radeon HD3870,512MB, GDDR4, PCI Express x16 <- broken part, must be replaced
Western Digital CaviarSE 80GB Serial ATA II HDD
LG GDRH20N DVD rom SATA
AMD Athlon 64 X2,4800+, Boxed
Asus M2A-MX,Retail
Kingston KVR667D2N5K2/2G, 2048 MB, DDR2, PC5300, 667 MHz, 2 x

Aside from the GPU, I highlighted the Garbage parts of that system. Its not even with 50.

1. that CPU is so old and only a dual core it wont run this game as you’d like. Its either a 939 or an AM2+ Socket (meaning your upgrades are limited)

2. DDR2? Yea I’d stay away. DDR3 is the BARE min I would buy into with any system today.

If you buy this 50 buck system, you will end up rebuilding in a few weeks to a month, depending on your frustration levels.

I would just say no.

And a 64Bit Client (while would be a step in the right direction for GW2 for the future) will not help one bit with the current issues that plague this game.

The main issue is that optimization is so poor, the game runs 60% of its instructions on the CPU. This is the first thing that needs to be addressed before anything else.

The second issue are the lag spikes. Which I still think are Level3/AT&T based, but the last couple of days been seeing weird ‘pause for 5-8 seconds’ and ‘turbo mode go’ latency action (both my wifes PC and mine at the exact same time. However, Last.fm doesn’t drop a beat during these lag spikes, and neither does my Active VPN back to work.). These could be caused by a few things. Server DB Engine Spikes, Cluster resync’s, our Game Client dropping TCP/UDP buffers and refilling them, DDoS Attacks against Anet (this would be behavior one would see if an IP was under attack and a IPS was intercepting the attacks and offloading them to help keep services up), and the Internets backbone (with Verizon/ATT having area outages could very well be a possibility ATM).

CursedShaitan.9720:

24 hours prime stable 4.4ghz 965 phenom ii with the nb-cpu at 2800(bigger per mhz performance increase than clock speed itself from a stock 2000 makes a huge difference in pIIs) Shadow Behemoth on High Settings at 1600×900 hits 18 fps lowerging gpu settings does nothing and scaling between 4.0 and 4.4 shows fps gain so i know the issue is cpu limit. I’m using a 7770+7750

My girlfriend is using a dualcore pentium g6950(i3 or i5 based i think) that i’ve pushed from 2.8 to 4.1 and a single 5750 hd. her frame rates beat mine/meet mine depending on location with a gpu equal to my 7750, one half of my gpu equation. and half the available cores. running near the same frequency. my computer pretty much trumps hers in almost every game we play but not gw2….. i know the ipc on intel chips is generally superior but given might overclocker of an intel chip has none of the cache its high end brethren have or my amd chip and its running at a lower clock rate and 2 core disadvantage this is clearly an issue with optimization and threading…..the cheapest proc intel had to offer at the time shouldn’t be beating out my system. not when other cpu bound games perform better on my computer.

I have a PhenomII 830 X4 teamed with a HD5770 – Over clocked the CPU to 3.4Ghz and on SB I get 28-30FPS on medium settings. NB/HT are at 2400mhz. If I over clock it to 4.5Ghz (NB/HT 1100, ram at 1100 – cant get stable at 4.5 with higher HT/NB) then I get 30-35FPS with the same settings. (Small boost, would be a lot better if I could get the NB/HT up to 2200-2600mhz)

I upgraded that PhenomII 830 to use a HD7790, repeated the Clock tests (I make sure there are at least 30 Players around when doing these simple tests) and there was absolutely no change in FPS between the 7790 and 5770.

Upgraded the PhenomII 830 to a i5-4670K, Default clocks (3.4Ghz) Turbo Boost Disabled. SB with the same settings/Players solid 60FPS. If I put the settings on high (have not tried Ultra yet, still needing to run test in Full WvW prime time), 35-45FPS.

Native Sampling
Low Shadows
no post processing
Medium Character Quality
Low Character Limit

Rest of the settings are either High or Medium.

So yea, completely CPU restrained. Though, while so far I am very happy with the i5 Upgrade, I expected more out of it. Can’t wait for my 80mm to 120mm Adapter comes so I can Install my Water Cooling and OC the i5 to 4.5ghz+

Arkebeltz.7064:

Yeah, i have my card on the PCI 3rd Gen Slot, (the one closest to the CPU), and still don’t know why its only running at 1x, i tryed to see in BIOS, but i have no clue where to go.

Do you have any of the other PCI-E Slots populated?

Behellagh.1468:

That motherboard has what looks like 3 PCIe x16 slots. They are not. Only the one closest to the CPU is a true x16 slot. The remaining two are an x1 and an x4. Why they bothered to dress an x1 slot up as an x16 is beyond me.

selling point.

Its just like the Board I just got. 3 PCI-E Slots, but only 16x Lanes total (so either x16 x0 x0, or X8 X8 x0 or X8 X4 X4) its stupid.