i seriously don’ know man, mes has 10 second teleport on staff, double block on shield and evade on sword with invul on f4, all can be doubled with f5 and blocks on staff 5
F4 is the true clutch. It allows Mes to take a deep breath no matter what’s happening.
Staff is a lesser concern so long as you wait for the swap or force him out of it.
The Block can be directly countered with sig of might. Actually sword 2 is the more prominent factor. Of course neither can be activated if the mes is CC’d.
Like I said, I don’t think the fight is an easy roflstomp win, only that the tools are there to deal.
yea, except the fact that sig of might is useless, and mesmer sword 3 is also a stunbreak
Ok , i can confess you are right BUT 1,25 sec man !!! it’s so huge , check the heal of the mesmer / rev / necro / thief ….
Every truly good Mesmer learned from the early days- Cover your heal cast.
doesn’t matter, mesmer can easily heal during stealth, back behind clones, or just port away and heal
main reason why any heal other then healing signet(when there’s no 1/4 cast heals introduced, only 1 second cast time heals) was incredible bad and nonviable even now, it’s because warrior’s cover to heal is really limited
i seriously don’ know man, mes has 10 second teleport on staff, double block on shield and evade on sword with invul on f4, all can be doubled with f5 and blocks on staff 5
except if you don’t go defense line, you have completely 0 sustain compare to the rest of the class
Strictly speaking, that isn’t quite true. There’s the defensive options in Berserker, defensive tools tied to weapon and trait selection, and then defensive attributes tied to gear/amulet.
Sure, Defense has a couple of new shiny things. But this doesn’t feel mandatory to me, tbh.
You are basically saying warrior prepatch was completely fine sustain wise(with or without defense line)..gg i’m done…
But it’s all relative. Depending on your role, running without defense can be perfectly legit. It just means you have to play within certain styles, and avoid others.
except the fact that sustain without defense line is non existence compare to other classes
Also, like even you add defensive on non defense line, like skills etc, defense line will still be best for tanky specs.. since the sustain adds on each other, it’s not like ohh i have evade on greatsword i can’t take defense line anymore, like seriously what the heck, i seriously don’t get your logic here…
except if you don’t go defense line, you have completely 0 sustain compare to the rest of the class
Strictly speaking, that isn’t quite true. There’s the defensive options in Berserker, defensive tools tied to weapon and trait selection, and then defensive attributes tied to gear/amulet.
Sure, Defense has a couple of new shiny things. But this doesn’t feel mandatory to me, tbh.
You are basically saying warrior prepatch was completely fine sustain wise(with or without defense line)..gg i’m done…
uhm ok i dont agree with you… its called Defense traitline for a reason you know?
Sure there should be small sustain stuff in other traitlines.. but they do have those.
Defense should be the best traitline for sustain
except if you don’t go defense line, you have completely 0 sustain compare to the rest of the class
we were not forced to use defense line, now you just made it even more fundamental
good job anet..warrior seriously needs sustain outside of defense line, not inside…ok thanks
because some power specs last more than the 3 seconds that the average power rev lasts vs the condi cancer classes out there.
what….rev has the second most reliable way to remove chills(first of thief but thief is not viable), the strongest condition in the current meta….the only thing it has to be careful is mesmer shatter..but rev also has plenty of evades and blocks to avoid the shatters…also rev has a medium HP..
You did bring your jokes bag with you this morning
seriously l2p issue on your part, i bet you are the kind of person who spams skills and use sword 3 when you see 10 stacks of confusion on you
because some power specs last more than the 3 seconds that the average power rev lasts vs the condi cancer classes out there.
what….rev has the second most reliable way to remove chills(first of thief but thief is not viable), the strongest condition in the current meta….the only thing it has to be careful is mesmer shatter..but rev also has plenty of evades and blocks to avoid the shatters…also rev has a medium HP..
Replace defy pain with Defiance Stance Defense trait.
On the warrior forums. And i believe that’s all we need to become viable again. It will fix whatever sustain problem warriors are dealing with.
doesn’t matter, warrior may be played in ranked or unranked by normal players, but still don’t have plays in top tournament, even if warrior survive just as good as the rest, there’s no role to fit for warrior imo
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I’ve had excellent success with the GS/ Axe+Shield core power warrior (found it through K Pop’s post on here.) We still don’t have nearly the team support/utility that other professions get, like Revenant, for example, but we do have top-tier pressure damage. In SoloQ this pressure is quite valuable. Power War
It is superb at team fighting so I would try to spend most of the match in those, personally. Rarely do I ever engage in 1v1’s without the intent of being a boon to my team’s map presence overall.
Gonna have to disagree here. We are not Top tier burst damage in spvp. Sure we have burst damage, but in a fight it is unlikely we will survive long enough to make it effective. Necro’s in particular shut Warriors down
2 necros or two revs shut down a warrior. A singular version does not.
If a shiro/glint rev loses to a warrior who’s not running some condi BS or a gunflame trash build then there’s a problem. The necro shouldn’t be losing to either of those if he can pop into RS. If he has no life force, well he’s screwed.
tbh most revs have no idea what are burning wars, anyone have an idea will know that you can kill burning wars by simply using sword 2 or 3 at max range and kit..and go in with shiro burst and kit again
Rev is way too effective with marauder amulet, i can keep the point from getting decapped while 1v2 for a while for teamates to come as marauder amulet and still being a good ganker, good 1v1er, good group fighter..that’s too good
Warriors, Guards and Thieves have NEVER been meta. Ever. Never ever. Less than 0 times. It’s about time Anet realizes that some classes have been on top for far too long. Speaks volumes.
Uhhhhh…
Bunker Guardians
Hambow warriors
D/P thieves.
All these were meta at one point.
I forgot that bunker guards actually were, but they did DO anything but hold points. Now you’ve got these classes that can defend a point and wreck your face. Bunker guards were harmless. Same with Hambows, maybe the BUILD was meta, but it was never on par with what was floating around at the time and what we have currently. And lol @ the d/p thief meta comment.
hammer zerker guard bro, the build that killed abjured
Lol he has been playing too much Revenants. Doesn’t fit the warrior style though.
Maybe a leap that grant stab or leap that removed blind ?
what is warrior style, being extremely telegraphed and slow?
this theme is old and stupid.
and this is berserker, not warrior..yea..
tbh as long as it’s teleport, don’t even need to remove chill, cripple, w/e
and warrior will be viable ganker.
since 2013, warrior has only been tanky on point fighter, i thought HoT Elite was supposed to fill roles?
every single teleport in this game needs to work like shadowstep with target circle instead of auto teleport on target and need to be gated with high CD, or should not go through LOS
main reason why this game’s pvp is full of bs and will never be esport
you can delete ele with burn war unless he has earth cooldowns or port away..
but hey..war is not viable
ele sure is good, but it takes a lot of work tbh unlike reaper, scrapper and rev..
Tf is up with retribution line being passive? Most traits are passive. What you want retribution to do? Please give me a list of non passive traits to retribution. Honestly some things i see in this thread are absurd really.
There are good passives and bad passives. We reduce some damage, yep, ok. Is it gamebreaking? No. Meanwhile we have reaper swings his scythe in air gaining might due to trait and my guess is thats an “active trait” in eyes of many.. cus reaper has to press 1 in air. So active, wow
doesnt matter, reaper, rev, scrapper are all going to be nerfed either that or low tier classes are going to be buffed big time, if anet wants some kind of balance in the game
