The problem is that, in different timezone, the skill level of specific division is also different.
i find that playing in the morning for my time is much easier compare to in the night..so there are people who got higher division for playing the easier time zone..
and yea, playing unfamilliar classes is a thing too
As far as I’m concerned, people have an overblown opinion of how good they are and they are also convinced that they should get to legendary as long as they keep queuing ranked. I don’t think that everyone should get legendary, and I think that what people consider “MMR hell” is actually the right bracket for them if they can’t get out of it. The fact that exceptional players can get to legendary without many problems on an alt account, which would have no MMR to “help” them, convinces me even more of this.
Or the problem that alt accounts have an easier time progressing than accounts that have a low mmr from a previous season……
No one is saying that legendary players can’t make legendary, MMR hell is mid tier ruby players being stuck at ruby t0 with teammates that threecap home, rush enemy lord etc…
if you have low MMR from previous ranked games played, why do you think you deserve to progress?…
just play some game after break and tested, legend is the new ruby or even sapphire…it is nothing compare to the beginning of the season diamond level..the amount of backpedaling, wasting cooldown, wasting dodges are insane
nothing special really, as bad players progress, diamond is the new ruby, try diamond in the first week of season or compete at the top is what’s close to impossible
mace 2, counter blow, block for the whole duration, if you block an attack, you get to use the second phase skill > counter blow which deals damage
if you choose not to use counterblow, you gain adrenaline
same thing for sword 5
thanks
I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that people are still arguing about whether or not MMR hell exists or not. It’s ridiculously obvious to me.
Top tier players simply don’t want it to exist because if it is actually properly fixed then next season these players wont have as easy of a time.
Use common sense here: look at you teammates, do they play the same as you? Look at all these “top players” streaming, do their teammates play the same as them?
When you see some ESL player streaming from a brand new alt acc with a fresh MMR of 1 (which can be argued as above average) and they start going at it, the players they are paired with get closer and closer to their level as they proceed – Hence this absolutely DOES NOT disprove MMR hell.
When you see a GOOD player streaming who claims they are stuck in MMR hell, look at their teammates, look at what their teammates do, it is so obvious to me. When you see someone winning 1v2s while they have 2 teammates capping home at the start of a game, or you see the same person constantly running far and dying the whole match… It’s just so obvious.
I’m disappointed in the community on this issue.
The only way an ESL player will prove it to me that they can pull out of MMR hell, is if they make an alt char and deliberately tank the mmr to a substantially low mmr (presumably something around a 47% win/loss ratio) and THEN start streaming their crawl back to the top. Then we can really see how hard it really is, and we can also see how frustrating an experience it is for them.
Until then, they just need to be quiet and more humble.
people already did that
No one has tanked their mmr/win/loss ratio and then streamed it. No one has shown a win loss ratio of about 47/48% and then moved up. Losing 15 games does not create low mmr and does not even necessarily start the loss train. They need to tank it good – 40 or 50 straight losses, 100% solo que with no exploits, and then some more either losses consecutively or intermittently. Then stream the ladder climb. They can do it just as an experiment (though the poor people they play with!) and see what happens and how fun an experience it is.
But no one has done this thus far. No one. And saying they have just makes it seem like what people are saying isn’t true, which it is. Someone needs to do it. Really lose hard. Just do it and prove it. And incidentally, even if one pro player is successful at doing it, which I doubt they will be without a lot of time and aggravation and frustration, how many other players (especially those average ruby or diamond players who presumably make up the bulk of the pvp player base) will be able to replicate it without giving up or quitting altogether. And why should they have to – they actually have to work harder at playing then if they caught the win train. Fair, I think not.
the win train seriously don’t bring people that far away from average…why are people still kitten over it…it was kinda reasonable at the beginning, because it made all esl players on one side during low division, but now.. really?..
I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that people are still arguing about whether or not MMR hell exists or not. It’s ridiculously obvious to me.
Top tier players simply don’t want it to exist because if it is actually properly fixed then next season these players wont have as easy of a time.
Use common sense here: look at you teammates, do they play the same as you? Look at all these “top players” streaming, do their teammates play the same as them?
When you see some ESL player streaming from a brand new alt acc with a fresh MMR of 1 (which can be argued as above average) and they start going at it, the players they are paired with get closer and closer to their level as they proceed – Hence this absolutely DOES NOT disprove MMR hell.
When you see a GOOD player streaming who claims they are stuck in MMR hell, look at their teammates, look at what their teammates do, it is so obvious to me. When you see someone winning 1v2s while they have 2 teammates capping home at the start of a game, or you see the same person constantly running far and dying the whole match… It’s just so obvious.
I’m disappointed in the community on this issue.
The only way an ESL player will prove it to me that they can pull out of MMR hell, is if they make an alt char and deliberately tank the mmr to a substantially low mmr (presumably something around a 47% win/loss ratio) and THEN start streaming their crawl back to the top. Then we can really see how hard it really is, and we can also see how frustrating an experience it is for them.
Until then, they just need to be quiet and more humble.
None of the bursts should be telegraphed. They are way, way too easy to dodge.
I 100% disagree. The telegraphing is what makes landing them worthwhile and impressive. Make them too fast and we become like Revs. The real problem with Burst skills is that there are too many easy ways to avoid being hit by them even if you time them properly. Making Burst skills more RELIABLE but not EASIER is way healthier imo. You can do this by:
1. Swapping Leg Specialist with Restorative Strength. Almost all War weapons have a cripple and when comboed correctly makes landing Bursts like Evis and Earthshaker much easier. I would also give cripple on Mace’s Pommel Bash and Longbow’s Smoldering Arrow.
2. A Minor trait that removes blind when you use your burst (and possibly make you immune to it for the channel). My suggestion would be scrapping Thick Skin.
3. Revert some of the damage nerfs on Earthshaker and Combustive Shot. They don’t need to be as good as before, but atm Longbow is basically worthless because it is a hybrid weapon that doesn’t really do much real damage outside of Pin Down.
These changes would still make burst skills take some though and timing to land, but still be counterable by blocks and dodges.
The game needs more telegraphs and less passive defense. Lets not perpetuate the skilless gameplay we already have.
burning arrow is useless, since it doesnt reduce burst skill, so you only have auto for extra burn…and a better 2 up time..that’s it…
and powerful synergy is the most useless trait in game..you don’t need double duration aura…you will be shattering them all the time..
most original burst skills are bull kitten skills that does not deserve a burst skill name tag on it tbh..
even some of primal burst are lackluster, like hammer one
they should just name these “normal skill that consume adrenaline”
Carry is objective, if your enemy team is not that much better then your team, but slightly better, then sure you can carry, which is most of the cases
since most people with high MMR already moved up ranks..so it’s basically your problem now
Getting cyber bullied for playing warrior, anet please do something
they say they want to come to my house and kill me and all that mean stuff
It’s a sad reality where ppl want to win at all cost and their victories to mean whatever they need to. I have all the sympathy in the world for you. Rest assure I will never ask you to play something you don’t want to. Winning is not worth that much.
Last hope is that the reason we’ve not gotten anything is because they’re making big changes/ complete redesign which I would like to take time for it to be very good
seriously, april patch is the last hope, they already had long enough time since freaking november to do something..if april patch is still a fail, ill be asking refund on HoT and gone from pvp for good like the other good passionate warriors i know, who have played this class for years.
they should make hundred blade a two phased skill
first one that makes enemy “float” like the chrono elite with an upper cut animation
second phase is hundred blade
LOL pure anime style
I wouldn’t like more warrior nerfs.
sure it might sound bit ridic, but
how is that a nerf in any way?
You say 2 phases, wich suggests its not just an instant quick extra cc, and maybe first second is an cc? 100b may be used to quickly deal out large ammount of damage for example right after an shield bash or flurry. Now if it included a phase of CC that would include time for them to stunbreak or port or invuln or whatever before damage hits in the first place. While this case may sometimes be replaced by said version, but it completely neglects the whole type of play it’s used for.
If you ask me its a nerf for its just a longer window that the enemy can completely neglect the damage. I’d much rather get a “buff” elsewhere.
Besides I don’t like the idea of a skill being independant like this, I much prefer how its synergy / combo with 100b being the pure damage component.
i said two phase just so you can reposition yourself properly, instead of force channeling HB in an awkward position and/or use other damaging skill like whirling instead of HB….
Now If you shiledbash, they stunbreak, you can chain a float in order to hit hundred blade. if they are going to get out of shieldbash or flurry, they will get out anyway and you will miss hundred blade anyway..so there’s no different whatsoever..
and like seriously, if you add that, you won’t even need shiledbash to use hundred blade, you literally save a freaking skill, and if you want to chain shield bash into float and in to hundred blade that’s just like shield bash in to hundred blade…
You might wanna read what I said again, seems you did not.
yea, i did not, because the match was about to start and i just quickly typed w/e since my teammates yelling at me, personally figured i can edit later, you are probably not on seeing when you did the last post in this thread, but looks like you are on.
they should make hundred blade a two phased skill
first one that makes enemy “float” like the chrono elite with an upper cut animation
second phase is hundred blade
LOL pure anime style
I wouldn’t like more warrior nerfs.
sure it might sound bit ridic, but
how is that a nerf in any way?
You say 2 phases, wich suggests its not just an instant quick extra cc, and maybe first second is an cc? 100b may be used to quickly deal out large ammount of damage for example right after an shield bash or flurry. Now if it included a phase of CC that would include time for them to stunbreak or port or invuln or whatever before damage hits in the first place. While this case may sometimes be replaced by said version, but it completely neglects the whole type of play it’s used for.
If you ask me its a nerf for its just a longer window that the enemy can completely neglect the damage. I’d much rather get a “buff” elsewhere.
Besides I don’t like the idea of a skill being independant like this, I much prefer how its synergy / combo with 100b being the pure damage component.
i said two phase just so you can reposition yourself properly, instead of force channeling HB in an awkward position and/or use other damaging skill like whirling instead of HB….i’m not sure if you played with engi shield or other two phased skill like thief’s new physical, but two phase literally means nothing to being “not-instant-quick”
yea, so you said it, you simply like it being damage, doesnt make it so this change equals a nerf, because certainly not
they should make hundred blade a two phased skill
first one that makes enemy “float” like the chrono elite with an upper cut animation
second phase is hundred blade
LOL pure anime style
I wouldn’t like more warrior nerfs.
sure it might sound bit ridic, but
how is that a nerf in any way?
they should make hundred blade a two phased skill
first one that makes enemy “float” like the chrono elite with an upper cut animation
second phase is hundred blade
LOL pure anime style
The system is currently in disequilibrium, this will resolve itself over time. After X games, our final division placement should be an accurate reflection of our MMR. That is, most people will get lots of even matches eventually.
This is not the case because you cannot go down divisions. People who winning streaked up during the imbalance will not sink back down again.
…it’s really w/e…people will only shoot 1 division above their “actual” skill level at most, and they will hit wall
it would not be OP, but it would have a really long CD, like 60-80 CD that you would still take old basilisk, so you can effectively shut down your target
need to have their CD reduced by 50%
like seriously, why is bullcharge even 40 second CD
because we have headbutt on 20sec that does more CC and ALLOT more dmg and 30 adrenaline, behind a pricetag…
i’m not even kidding, burnwar has some what tiny bit of a play, because all rage skills have relatively low CD, so you can manage stuff
while physical skill being the worse version of rage skills, still have incredible long CD, that didn’t works pre HoT, won’t work Post HoT
Warrior
We’ve taken a look at the warrior’s baseline abilities and decide to make warrior useless and trash and garbage for another pvp league season just for the lolz and kitten off all the the players who like warrior since we can’t balance this class properly, all we know for warrior is increase heal on healing skill, like we did back in 2013 for healing signet.
If you’re a good player, but “not the best”, Ruby seems to fit. It sounds like you’ve come close to your appropriate league position, at least as a solo-queuer. That’s good news! (Leagues are not a reward track.)
This is codeword for, “Your trapped in an MMR hole and there’s no way to get out, Sorry!”
if you are good enough, you can actually carry your team to victory and get higher MMR, it’s a proven fact by many top players already..if you feel trapped you are simply not good enough..it gets harder and harder to carry as you climb the ladder..that’s how it works..most good players get out of the low division quick so their teammate or enemy are good players..
There are very specific instances in this meta where a Warrior (if he’s good) running the appropriate build will actually give your team the advantage. Warriors can absolutely shred and lockdown Reapers faster than anyone else can solo, nevermind having the rest of your team there at mid to finish that reaper off and make it an immediate 1-person advantage.
There are two problems with this:
- Not many Warriors playing Warriors really know how to play Warriors in this meta right. I am seeing…an unfortunate amount of Warriors likely testing builds even in Sapphire.
- You will never convince other players playing a warrior in that specific set of match-ups that it is a good idea before they start tilting at the pregame. This applies to not just Emerald / Sapphire but at High-End as well. Yep, ESL folks are afking too.
Not even Thieves or Mesmers get this treatment despite supposively being in the same shape. It’s unfortunately one of the reasons why despite saying I would carry myself to Legendary on my Warrior, because I am not one of this terrible ones running Warhorn (…really) I stopped just because of this social activity.
….necros who get shrekt are mostly people who have no idea what they are doing, usually it’s the warrior who get shrekt…and yea, that doesn’t apply in high end, i’m in diamond for two days..i tell you..doesn’t matter what build you are running, any decent necro will shrekt you hard
Apparently the matchmaker rewards what it determines are “good” players with easier matches.
apparently, that’s not true, all people on my friend list are good players who made legendary in season 1 and they all gotten bad players in amber and emerald tier, and now they are ruby almost diamond…good player will progress no matter what..
joke aside , every one including legendaries( i know because i’m legendary and most people on my friendlist are also legendaries) had really bad teammates in amber or even emerald..that’s why party exists..add some friends who are equal skill or better and blaze through that phase..that’s what a lot of players did anyway
