Guild Wars 2

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i wont argue if scavnger sound right or not
also i havent put in the video parts where i did some aoe dmg and burning tick 700 and run the other side while the burning still did it dmg for 6 seconds and not 3
sure if i take more power and crit my burst on short time fram will be higher but over all in zerg and goup fight i manage to do an overall higher dmg over time
also you could see me doing 600 direct dmg while my enemy had protection but the burning did 700.
also just yesterday an ele (in group fight) tried to run away and as i couldnt chase him i just press voj and he died 6 seconds later with 5k dmg over time
this is why i was trying to go hybrid so i can addapt to any situations

lately ppl find builds and play style which can handle the p/d build
guardian – use blocks (3 of them) blind (2-3 of them) which can break the cnd rotation
ele – use diamond and fast heal, some aoe ,cc chill
engi – use massive aoe while bursting conditions
warrior – can out heal you and mobility with some stun etc
necro – use aoe, fear, cc
thief – d/p can kill you if play right and patiently
mesmer and ranger have the most trouble with p/d

so as you can see player who knows how to time their skill right can counter the pd rotations and win

yes and yes they tick both boons and dmg

so you basically want the guardian to be warrior
so play warrior

the guardian need some other twich

@Yamsandjams – change to your idead and the dmg with assassin and also spicy butternut (100 power +70 ferocity) and the total dmg both direct and burning is lower than my build

again my build give you 100% burning duration this its another 550 tick dmg which ignore armor while getting more power and ferocity will yield 250 more dmg which not ignore armor thus the actual average dmg is lower ~200

another example of the build hope you like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwaqvargx04

most ppl using what few seem to work it out
so no one trying to test new build with new possibilities

for me the burning even as full condi works just fine
sure there are some builds which is harder to kill but some too easy aswell.
i think anet want the guardian to go hybrid and not full condi just with burning dmg even with the buff 33% u can see its in the power line and not condi line
so far my hybrid work like a charm and even better in group raid as dps guard
if this trait moved to condi line you will see ppl running OP build with 2,6,6,0,0 meditation build with zerk gear which also do 1k burning => OP dmg isnt it?!

:D
i get you

i said high risk high reward build
i know some ppl tried my older version of panicond build and love it so this is the new version

Ghostwolf.9863:

The music from the vid sounds like taken from a porn movie.

its chillout music

s/d give me dizziness
p/d power build or condition build
i wish p/p would be more valuable as its looks so good

you dont understand the build if you talking about sustain dps
thief sdps with all build and weapon is average as he needs to stealth/evade thus not doing dmg so you cant calculate the dps with an icd of the skill rather on the burst frame time when you start to do dmg with your skills
check my other videos on panicond build and balthazar runes

also burning in wvw is 6 seconds every 15 seconds with food

check 6:43 min d/p thief got down in 5 seconds (3k confusion dmg ticking) which d/p or s/d could not do that as he used black powder

and old panicond action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA8S6Vd7ClE

so i combined them

if you talking tpvp than i would not take this build but all other area hell yes
its not meta build like s/d or d/p area (which both hardly can down average player in 7 seconds ) but as you can see it works just fine (for me at least)

also i roam with power d/d ele with venom share and we just melted ppl

so i would say it can be competitive versus any other thief build but some classes will give you hard time like d/d ele or guardian and condi necro

give it a try you’ll be surprised

@frans – you use cnd than sneak than swap to chill followed by dodge on him
if you use swap from stealth you’ll be revealed as you mention

sry i didnt mention it – wvw build (also hotjoin)
1v1 this build can work just fine with average thief who knows to land cnd
if you miss 2 then you’ll have hard time to survive.
also this build doesnt need you to fight decent amount of time as you land all the powerful conditions in the game
poison 300 dps
bleeding 5 stacks 700 dps
confusion 1000 dps
burning 700 dps
torment 500-1000 dps
so total of 3.1k-3.6k dps dmg which ignore armor (add the direct dmg and you got 4k dps)

yes this build is harder than the p/d easymode or d/p perma stealth as it require you to play more tactically and know when to immobilize/chill you enemy
you can take 1 stunbreak as you got poison already with steal
you still got 3k armor (wvw dire set)
krait rune dont give much as ppl think – bleed duration is not much needed with p/d set. and #6 is not that usefull compare to burning or any other condition rune

regarding the heal skill – i find that most of ppl w8ing for you to heal and dodge away but if i evade in their faces rarely i miss my cnd and they dont know where i am while they are panic with the burning

sure if you fight the same enemy he will learn your trick and dodge away so you can immobilize heal on his face chill and dodge on him for 5 bleed stacks + sneak attack
also you dont need to take venoms to chill, burn ,poison, weakness, confusion, bleed, torment but they sure amplified you dmg and immobilize is such OP condition
and ppl try to cleanse they cannot cleanse all (maybe guardian and necros) so they will be so vulnerable
in group play i think its best as ppl rarely target you and you can down ppl fast and easy and get out

Hello again

this is my new AMP Panicond full venum high risk high reward build
you got access to every condition beside fear
with hard and soft cc you can control your enemy
you just need to land your cnd
you dont really have to go full venoms (spider can be change to SS or SR etc… )

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQRAqY6Yl0MpppFNxrJ8PNRMRx1O4dXUGho2NwCEAA-TFiBABA8AAK4IAoxJBgl9HoR/wQq/4oSQvU+RKAYWWB-w

short theorycraft video demonstartion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVOE5ytwqRY&feature=youtu.be

for more group play build go 6,0,6,0,2 with venom share and maybe take rune of grenth for aoe chill when heal so you can 10 seconds chill ppl with swap and heal and spam poison field and weakness all around the area

Have fun

rune of might work better with solo or small group as they buff your might duration
but the real might stacking comes from blocks and GS and if you playing with group you gain might with staff guardian etc
another good alternative is rune of the fire – 10% might duration and 20% burning duration but you lose the 7% dmg amplifier but you gain more might with fire aura

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQNAR8dlsApcoVDxZI8DNR8QY94bbVBX/PnD-TVCEgAQXAgX1f2V+xu/g0TAwT3AwBBYw83hSQSBAzWA-w

also explain in the thread
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/why-hybrid-is-the-new-you/first#post4057954

as you see above ppl dont used to guardians being damage dealers but they are the best imo.

i thought everyone knew that trick long ago… and its not dodgeroll….

Ghotistyx.6942:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJASBmIeos8DehqDgG4RvcHeSA-TVyDABRcBAQVJ4PK/Aw83H6CmZ/BdU/BhnAgDHCASBAxwK-w

Something like this is what I was talking about. Swap some sigils around and mouse over their durations on the skills page.

nice idea but i would change armor to more power oriented as dire only benefit your burning dmg by ~80 dps while power will grant you more
also i would take power sigil as gs and hammer should do more direct dmg (chill wont benefit much from condition dmg) and i would change to swap sigil than hit sigil
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJASBmIeos9DehqDgG4RvbHA-TFCEgAQXBgX1f2V+5pLQe/hBzfHPAQJIwhAgUAQsFA-w
but your survivability is lacking

sry you cant see it
its a demonstration of the dmg as i am the dmg dealer in the group.
if you mean PF +symbol of wrath +smite +whirling wrath +ji is one skill i cant comment on that
the clips where i do not do dmg is to show the survivability as we were outnumbered 15v20-25 with only 1 ele to support us with water field.
and i’ve only been bounced once while i am in the thick (as you call it) and my team went for restack

and you right you should look at the burst numbers

thanks for you comment

here is short example of my hybrid guard in group play
the combination of high direct dmg and burning 100% which tick 2 times even more powerful than the full zerk build out there and suitable for group raid with 2800 armor

hope you like it

tell us more what you want to play.
dps, support, zerg, small group solo…

thanks
which build would you use for dps guard for group play?

which class would you take as DPS in your melee train with guild raids
guardian or warrior

i see in both forums (warrior and guardian) that ppl agree that guardian have better dps than a warrior and also support the group better while warrior share some vigor/crit chace with shouts

so would you agree/advise guild raids should take guardian as melee dps? if yes what would the warrior role be

i run as guardian with sc/f +sw/t on gunars
build 2,6,6,0,0
14500 hp
2.5k power (when blocks a thief spamming i can get almost 3k power)
burning 2 sec for 1k dmg when block
my sow does 4-5k dmg if crit to low armor enemies
JI does 2k dmg
smite 1-2k
i have both sigil of fire and air for 2k dmg every 3-5 seconds
i am not full zerk so my crit dmg is 180%
+37% dmg with sword – 10% to burning, 10% to condition, 10% with sword, 7% runes

to counter this attack from range with sb until he is below 50% hp and use his kittenite to heal. then pressure bit more so he use his elite and range him again till his aegis gone than full burst him
use evade with bow when needed
use poison field so he wont heal much
before you going to cnd use AA to clean the aegis

d/p has a chance if they harass him long time
be careful from immobilize from scepter as #2 can do 8-10k dmg and scepter AA does 1.5-2k dmg and burning does 1k dmg so use stealth when needed

guardian dps come from AA mainly as they can dish out huge dmg so evade and attack from range to counter them
my AA sword for 1 rotation hits for 7k+2k sigils+1k burning

pretty hard to counter 1v1 but doable

Norjena.5172:

If your burning does 600 dmg (per tick) u did something wrong.

to do 600 burning dmg u need (no might stacks) 1k condition dmg .if you invest 1k on condition dmg you power will be low

so how you get higher in wvw group raid (no zerk build)

what about in raid group?
would you take dps guardian or warrior ?
me and my guildy made a comparison with AA dmg in the mist and my guardian did the same dmg but as i proc burning for 600 dmg the dmg was higher.
also with just AA’s i manage to take down the golem much faster than the warrior.

as i dont know much about warrior builds can you ping me dps warrior build for guild raid (no zerk ones pls)

hope to have fun with you ppl . just transfered

loved that
but engi GG for tanking all the dmg

enjoy

my #2 scepter average dmg hits like 8k dmg with 175% crit dmg.
2 AA until they reach (and then you JI) hit like 1.5k each so 3k
JI 2k
smite condition 2k
sow 4k (on 3k armor)
and burning 700 dps so average 6 seconds its 4k

i really looked for some roaming action in wvw but too zergy atm. my best was to find warrior meta build which we fought for like 4 min as he could out run me and heal inside the tower and re engage.
so i made few hotjoin fight in pvp arena today. will be upload soon

meanwhile

so what ppl think about the runes?

krait just give more bleeding duration and some ok dmg with elite skill
any other rune doesnt give the ability to do 5k dmg and stacking another condition

average dmg with 1 burst is poison 300, bleeding 1000, confusion 1000, torment 700 and burning 900 so for 5 seconds is almost 20k dmg without considering the direct dmg around 3k

also burning is great aoe dmg which ppl dont expect you to apply and make the p/d set even more powerful and dangerous

@BlackDevil – pls advise about more key bindings i should use . i happy to learn.
the slomo was for the burn my enemy behind me + steal . you say i should not use F1 for fast and easy down ppl?

do you think to runes are good/bad do they add something new and viable or not?

mace is great weapon with huge dmg but the downside of it is a slowest one and easy do avoid

so far 1v1 i didnt put more video as this setup dont need burning to do overpowered pressure
again p/d is more an easy mode for 1v1 so i try to take it to more group play style where d/p or d/d or sb power build more common

you can see i can down as easy as d/x the peripheral enemy. i can do nice burdt with SB almost like the power SB but over time it almost the same

:)

if yo u cant see the burning ticking along side the confusion, torment bleed and poison
we have a problem to determin what is massive…

here some example of group play and roaming from yesterday
p/d usually used in roaming as easy mode. i try to put it viable in group play by doing more pressure

more to come

as i said appetizer for the coming….
patient my child

thanks and yes tough yo dont have too if you know that your enemy is behind you

A short appetizer – to be continued

poison, confusion, bleeding, torment, vulnerability, cripple, BURNING!!!

:)

could be interesting for group play and viable for heavy front dmg dealer.

calculating your average dmg is a bit lower
on 10 seconds you gonna swap and get 100% crit chance so with AA is every 4 seconds
with 10 stack of might and full stack your AA GS gonna do (with the 3rd attack for example) 1617*1.1*1.07*(0.85+0.15*1.85)=2145*3/4+3520*1/4=2455+1305=3796 best scenario as you wont swap every 10 seconds exactly so your dmg in average will be lower. i will guess 10%.

while the build above will do with 3rd sword attack
1671*1.1*1.1*1.07*(0.6+0.4*1.76)+1128=3948 . so this 150 dmg with full rotation on your skills can yield about 2-3k difference when fighting
and also scepter as range weapon can put pressure from 1200 range and voj can be activated more frequently for aoe blind and burning longer. and this build is suited for every situation roaming/group play etc.

on the other hand you got 200+ armor although 2800 for me is enough for group play and you got better base hp with group support

here you got triple hybrid
2800 armor
2500 power
700 condition
40% crit chance
176% crit dmg

so i have been asked and whispered to explain why i think hybrid guardian is better than the full zerk guardian or full condition guardian (although ppl still dont recognized condi guardian)

first everyone know whats the meaning of dps – damage per second
but unfortunately ppl forget about the meaning of sdps – sustain dps which is your dmg in time interval

although zerk can yield much higher dps with full crit dmg and higher crit chance he can do it only in small intervals so it may be bast against golems in the mist but against enemy who dodges and react to your action the interval get shorter so over all sdps is getting bit low

so you asked yourself why not to go full condition. its the miror answer to the zerk. full condition works better in longer fight so in longer interval can yield better sdps as conditions ticks every second but in the other hand you lose some short high dps which can down your enemy much faster.

this analysis is true for every class but as some other classes have the ability to better cc, defensive game play like mesmer thief and necro, or good re-engage like engi/warrior/ele. the guardian have only blind and few blocks to help him out

thus if you go full zerk as guardian you sometime can yield better dmg but in overall gameplay most classes can re engage, stealth, dodges so you sdps will be much lower.
thus i find that hybrid which takes both direct dmg and put condition dmg pressure yield best sdps and also can perform well in every situation like solo, group ,zerk etc

after testing the builds out there i came into this build
the concept :
burning 100% to utilize 2 ticks of burning which does 1.2-1.4 dmg while you direct dmg also high
so overall dmg even if play defensively or your enemy dodge he still take 1.4k dmg
so the sdps is higher
here is the build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQRArd8flsApcoVDxbI8DNR8QY94bbVBX/PnD-TlCEgAvq/sr8j4gAwu/g0TAwT7QnOgBzfHKBBOBAkCAmtAA-w
(you can go more zerk but i find it that 2.8k toughness is best spot for group play)

you have with sword 37% dmg and with scepter 27% dmg
you can constant burn your enemies around you
you have 100% burning duration

the sword cleaves and the rotations is 2.5 seconds
testing the AA (auto attacks) result in the best sdps
sword rotation example against 2600 armor enemy:
(direct dmg)
AA1 – 1315
AA2 – 1315
AA3 – 1458*1.1*1.1*1.07*(0.60.4*1.76) – 2461
(burning)
953
= 6044 damage which is 2.4k dps and with 10 might stacks its 2.8k dps

the same full zerk build with 10 migh stacks will result in 8099 which is 3.2k dps but with 10k health and 2.4k toughness

amazing isnt it- > result of burning dmg duration.

i will try to put video of it in wvw group play
also radian fire fixed

i will put a video showing it was fixed (at least in wvw)

so after trying and building my condi guard and testing few builds and making some of my own, and after trying to achieve the best dps to every situation
here are my results and builds around meditation concept

full zerk – good for roaming but mediocre for 1v1 with the condi meta. you lack in mobility (even with traveler rune). its hard to handle 1v2 and very situational. in small group fight is great if not getting focused. and can do huge dmg by playing aggressively. 2.5k AA (auto atack) but in short time best dps (build x,x,6,x,4, toughness 2300, power 2300 condition 0, crit chance 50%, ferocity 210%)

full condi – good for roaming, nice for 1v1 if your enemy dont run away. in small group fight is ok but great in big fight as the aoe burning does great damage over time. doing good dmg just by playing defensively, 1.8k AA. not many profession knows how to deal with you. in longer fight time the sdps become pretty equal to the zerk build (build 6,x,6,x,x toughness 2800, power 1200, condition 1800 burning duration 100% and +33% dmg)

hybrid – great for roaming and great in 1v1, much easier to do 1v2 (versus full zerk) but still not as easy as thief. great for small and big group fight as you can do great direct burst and passive burning after and before the burst so dps overall is higher 3.6k AA (build 2,6,6,0,0 toughness 2780, power 2500, condition 700, burning duration 100%, crit chance 40% and ferocity 175%)

so far for me the hybrid is the best setup for every situation

would like to hear your thoughts and opinion

as guardian lack in mobility my scepter is great weapon to deal dmg from 1200 range
also its good opener weapon which put pressure before you start your burst in melee

for me at least its working as it should

radiant fire trait and smoldering sigil were fixed?

i run with 10% condi duration 45% runes 40% food – 95% which should be 1 seconds tick of burning
with radiant fire +20% although using this trait, it doesnt showed in the skill bar as 2 seconds but as 1 seconds so 528 burning dmg my burning ticked 2 times with 1056 dmg (2 seconds )

also with smoldering sigil also tick 2 times but it does showen on your skill bar as 2.25 seconds (so 2 seconds)

with none of them so 95% i was ticking only 1 time as it should

so was it fixed?

duration stack till 100% so voj passive will go to 2 seconds and not above
also SJ only increase the active duration and not the passive.
also if you manage to put 1 stack of 1.5 seconds and before it ends another stack from lets say PF check if it sum it of

i think not as every stack act for its own so you’ll have 2 ticks and not 3

i would like to see more aoe symbols with two hand weapon
scpeter is bit slow and #2 is not a symbol
sword block is just absorb and doesnt react as block and have now symbol skill
focus/torch and shield have no symbol
so maybe shield create water symbol as it main utility is as defense weapon
torch as an offense weapon so fire field symbol
and focus maybe blind symbol

also speed signet,
and if anet already buff our condition burning maybe few more conditions like with AA
scepter weakness for 2 second
sword vulnerability for 3 seconds as high risk/reward weapon
GS cripple for 1 seconds
hammer chill for 1 second (instead of trait which is useless) as hammer easy to avoid