Guild Wars 2

They don’t sell for squat either. Submit a bug, add it to the pile.

This is the most solo-capable mmo ever (unless you count gw1 as a mmo, in which case it’s the 2nd most solo-capable).

You know, you don’t have to do it. It’s an achievement, not an entitlement.

For what it’s worth, I got wvw map completion on a server that was dominating the battle at the time, and suffered very little “pvpness” for it. (/wonders if pness is censored)

Kana.6793:

mulch.2586:

Kana.6793:

mulch.2586:

You can buy a legendary with $$.

No you cannot. You can’t buy map completion, you can’t buy karma, you can’t buy WvW badges, you can’t buy dungeon tokens.

You can buy a precursor with $$ if you are mad enough to do so. It’s impossible to buy a legendary.

Legendary weapons are tradable and there’s a firm selling completed ones.

You can’t use the fact that Chinese hackers illegally sell things as a argument for Anet making the game pay to win.

I didn’t claim that GW is pay to win.

I simply claimed that with tradeable gear, and a gems/cash/gold shop, you can get it.

In particular, if you’re eager enough, you can buy your legendary (no matter the nationality/hacker assumption). And I’m sure if you don’t want to pay $$ for it, you could work out a deal where you pay them gold for it.

It doesn’t make the game pay to win, cuz you could certainly easily get a weapon that performs just as well without spending a dime.

If you’re mostly a wvw player, you prob’ly have enough karma when you get 80 for many pieces of exotic karma armor. It’s good and “free.”

If you actually look at the numbers that govern your character’s performance, the differences between rare to exotic on a couple of pieces are almost undetectable. The same will be true with the possible 2 rings and back that you might otherwise grind out doing fractals, except if you want to delve deep into fractals and need the infusions for agony.

So you could play with only exotic and still be very much front of the class in wvw at this point.

As a not-even-80-yet, do you feel like you’re badly handicapping your world’s team in wvw with your below-max everything?

Kerithlan.1659:

mulch.2586:

Kerithlan.1659:

I suppose I’m a casual player, although I am able to commit upwards of 6 hours of play some days. I don’t get swept up in the constant call to arms for dungeons or pvp — there’s more to the game than that and kitten it I’m going to find it.

Oy, that’s not casual at all — you could do the entire month’s worth of dungeons in one play session, plus a couple fractals.

I think it’s fine if you don’t want to wvw and/or dungeon. Myself, I don’t anticipate getting many of the jumping puzzle achievements. But neither do I feel entitled to get credit for them if I don’t do them.

Note that I did say some days, not all the time. Note that I did not say (or even imply) that I am entitled to rewards I don’t obtain. Quite the opposite, if I recall.

Not to be cranky and contrary (I seem to be stuck in a rut right now, sorry).

On the days that I can commit that much time it goes mostly to exploring with guild mates. We make a conscious effort to move on from something if we can’t get it at least going within 20 minutes. For things like mini dungeons and jumping puzzles that sometimes means 2-3 hours getting it done, or it means an hour of putzing around and ultimately achieving nothing beyond a social meetup. We’re not super committed to anything beyond the social.

Right, I got that. I thought I was agreeing with you about not feeling entitled.

IME w/ GW2 (and most other games) — go out and have fun, usually you get rewarded for it. Whereas if you go out and try to get rewarded, you don’t always have fun.

Edit: A side note that’s related to the thread — yall should note that each path counts as a separate dungeon run for the achievement.

I thought the intent was to keep playing at the level your gear supports until such a point that you upgrade and can progress.

Can’t you choose a lower fractal level?

Kerithlan.1659:

I suppose I’m a casual player, although I am able to commit upwards of 6 hours of play some days. I don’t get swept up in the constant call to arms for dungeons or pvp — there’s more to the game than that and kitten it I’m going to find it.

Oy, that’s not casual at all — you could do the entire month’s worth of dungeons in one play session, plus a couple fractals.

I think it’s fine if you don’t want to wvw and/or dungeon. Myself, I don’t anticipate getting many of the jumping puzzle achievements. But neither do I feel entitled to get credit for them if I don’t do them.

We invited a few friends, but fortunately none of them decided to try during the event. For a new player, it showcased the weakest parts of GW2.
Bugged quests.
Invisible monsters and rendering lag.
Difficulty playing with your friends.

New/trial players aren’t gonna be impressed with the loot pinata aspect.

I know this is really just a troll to flame the event, but …

on the supposed topic,

there actually was a place on the survey to give your feedback about this.

EQ2 sold race-change potions for the equiv of $25. But they also sold pay-to-win stuff.

It’s an achievement, not an entitlement.

But if you think you don’t have time for a dungeon, I think you’re incorrect. Cuz you can run a lot of dungeons twice in the amount of time just to get into wvw for that side of the achievement. And 200 karkas. And 7 fractals.

It’s not just personal story, but also there’s race-specific gear that would complicate a race-change. It’ll just never happen.

If the toon really has that much spent on it for crafting and is only lvl 57, you should just keep it as a crafting mule.

Kana.6793:

mulch.2586:

You can buy a legendary with $$.

No you cannot. You can’t buy map completion, you can’t buy karma, you can’t buy WvW badges, you can’t buy dungeon tokens.

You can buy a precursor with $$ if you are mad enough to do so. It’s impossible to buy a legendary.

Legendary weapons are tradable and there’s a firm selling completed ones.

You can buy a legendary with $$.

As yet, there’s almost no ascended gear in the game. As the only existing pieces are rings and back, there’s almost no benefit to having it at this point.

Presumably in the months to come there’ll be pieces worth getting, and new ways to get them.

But I think it’s silly to think you can’t get them if you don’t play very much. Let’s say you do 1 session of fractals per week. That’s really no different from someone who does 7 sessions of fractals each week, except that it’ll take you longer.

In the meantime, just buy the 5g wvw guild back and a couple exotic rings instead. Total will run you about 10g.

Slow deployment suits me. It’s like deliberately taking small bites of your dessert, so it lasts longer.

Seriously, I bet if you could inspect, you’d see the majority of Orr players are in magic find gear.

It’s not gear/game hard. It’s dreary and unfun. It’s frustrating and annoying. It’s really crappy game design. But it’s not impossible to play, and the rewards were always enticing.

On a guardian a staff elementalist is not your favorite teammate, as the guardian does better with teammates who are in the mix, or at least have pets/minion/clone in the mix.
For that reason I think the duo would go better with a warrior. Certainly kill speed will be faster.

1v1 Moa is an I-win button.

In group combat, the portal bomb is the meta of wvw.

The NA/EU MMO market is a lot older and a lot more male than Maple Story’s.

Hopefully they didn’t intend for it to be a one-off event, only to be used for the weekend. There really should be more DEs in it. I don’t mind there not being skill points or vistas or zone completion, but they should put in the work to give it some replay value.

The lost shore mob have attacks that need to be avoided. The krabkas have a string of attacks with that loud sound, each doing a lot of damage.

Every profession has some method to do it. My ranger has to send the pet first and then attack, so the pet eats the big attacks, or dodge roll out of em. My guardian has to dodge and block and blind. The good thing is it’s just the special attacks that hurt – the normal ones you can absorb.

Ayrilana.1396:

Agenteusa.6380:

think of wvw as pve, except your mobs are smarter and move in groups, so you have to move with “npcs” as well or get left behind

Hmmm I’m not sure I agree with this statement. Are you really sure they are smarter?

Debate-able. With some of the things I have seen, I can see where you’re coming from.

well… they ARE invisible much of the time

I like the Lost Shores. There’s some parts that are a bit hard to get around, but it’s clear and has a good feeling to it.

The Orr zones, I really don’t care for. They’re gloomy. They feel contrived. I constantly feel like “let’s just leave this horrible place to these risen.” In particular, it feels to me that they made travel in Orr difficult (that it can take you 15 minutes to go 50 yards because of the unclimbable slopes and maze-like structures) as a way to disguise the lack of content, make it feel big and dangerous. After a bit of time there, honestly I only wear MF gear and get along with the mobs ok. I just can’t do it very long or I get so grumpy I could kick kittens.

There were hundreds of little karkas to kill by the spiral in Caledon forest.

The only level-gated content was the mandatory dungeon runs, as the lowest dungeon is lvl 30 (which can take a couple days of play to attain).

When you’re talking “achievements,” it’s really not a stretch to expect players to have achieved a certain level.

Can’t even salvage their stuff.

It’s so you have someone to sell your loot to.

Fritz.5026:

Yes it should be.

When i purchased this game i was under the impression that i was getting a pvp based game where stats on my gear was never going to be the focus of play.

if i thought i was purchasing another pve treadmill then i would say no otherwise whats the point, however that is not how this game was sold to me.

PvP sets are still as they ever were. There is a big focus on build, but all the gear and respecs are free.

I got a lot of yellows over the weekend, but with the reportedly easier precursors, I was actually thinking of trying to gamble that way (gotta wait for the prices to recover from the legendary ancient karka’s chest).

Deadly Spirit Guy.4769:

mulch.2586:

gluttony is a deadly sin, ‘specially when it’s gluttony for self-inflicted punishment.

Why 20 runs?

what?

He did 20 runs, each time failing to get credit for the run. I can imagine trying twice. Trying 3 times? But 20!

As Dubya said, “Fool me once, what a shame. Fool me twice, shame on, shame. We won’t get fooled again!”

gluttony is a deadly sin, ‘specially when it’s gluttony for self-inflicted punishment.

Why 20 runs?

It’s not pay to win because you could have that item for free just by attending Sunday’s event.

You have 916 healing power just standing there naked with no traits.

adding 300 hp increases most heals about 5%

adding 300 toughness decreases direct-damage about 15% (assuming medium full exotic) as your defense goes from 1980 to 2280.

/shrug

I was thinking we’re not permitted to have threads talking about why other threads aren’t permitted.

Rule 1 of the moderation game: Don’t talk about moderation.

We started with approx 40,000 accounts per server.

Playtime has dropped off for a lot of people, I’m sure.

But I still get overflow on a weekday morning, we have hours-long queues for wvw…

We can lose a lot of players and still have a lot of players.

You do Orr because it’s there, and to make money. It’s not about getting gear, but building wealth.

The OP is lvl 57. If you are reasonably good with money, you’ll be able to afford half or more of an ascended set from the TP. You could, along the way, get plenty of tokens to buy dungeon gear. You will have enough karma to buy a couple pieces of temple gear.

Go farm if you want more/better than the basics.

The Orr zones are good farming, but they are gloomy and unpleasant. They very much embody the idea that if travel is slow and difficult, it makes the game seem bigger and more heroic. Get to 70ish and go see for yourself.

I think a social problem like this requires social solution, not software.

I hate my town clothes on every single character. (Well, I kinda like the Asura look with my GW2 ballcap.) Honestly, I wish I could equip regular armor into the townclothes slots so I’d at least have something to switch to that I don’t hate.

I think they’re doing pretty well financially with the game. Huge initial sales, and it seemed like they got at least 10s of millions from the gem store, just judging by /g and forum posts.

Could be better

utildai.5319:

Shootsfoot.9276:

What are you playing that you don’t do any damage to a mob at all and just provide 100% support?

I play a guardian and I’m getting plenty of kills in WvW when I play.

Engineer’s have a setup which is ALL heals and no buffs, or damage. They can set up to drop these little heal bags every 15 seconds or so, and do so four times in a row (or close to that…) essentially healing anyone who needs it on a continual basis.

That, is what support is. Support isn’t supposed to be about doing damage. If we can heal and keep the party up, we’ve done our job. We shouldn’t have to hit a mob to get credit for helping the group be successful.

We all know, it isn’t easy to switch rolls while a fight is going on.

I have to say you’re really truly doing it all wrong.

The fundamental coolness of the engineer is being that Swiss-Army knife.

The fundamental of support in Guild Wars is that it’s not a role you do, but a function you serve while you’re doing all the other roles that are essential, too.

If you’re only support, or only tanking, or only healing, or only damage, or only CC, you are doing it wrong.

Easy or not-easy, I don’t really care.

What I appreciate is that the stats don’t matter much in this game at all. One of my 80s’ magic find set has 3 pieces of rare in it. I hardly notice that from his full performance (not mf) exotic.

Sure, I like max stat gear. Not that it makes me powerful or anything.

Aevin.2391:

To clarify, also from the GW2 wiki:

" If a character is defeated with no coin, coin will be taken from their account vault. If their account vault is also empty, they can be revived for free at the nearest waypoint."

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Waypoint

Haha, that’s great charity. You suck, here’s a free rez and a repair bill.
XD

Tyria is rather dead-like in a lot of the lowbie zones, especially if you stray far from L.A.

But I’m always getting overflow to L.A., so there’s still a decent amount, even on Monday during typical working hours. How many hours are your wvw queues.

SWTOR and GW2 comparison is apt. Neither require a monthly sub anymore. Both have players complain there’s no fun after leveling. Um…

GW2 dead? There’s a lot of descriptors you can use to describe it. Buggy. WAAAY too long queues for wvw. I gave up on getting into the same overflow as most of my guild for the krapka event. But it’s too dang crowded to be considered dead.

I’d get on an alt and mail some money to a friend to return to me. Then open the mail on the broke one.

But unless you’re doing it deliberately, it’s just not gonna happen, cuz you don’t die that much in GW2, at least not in areas where you have to pay to waypoint.

I think it could have been really good done as a small-group instance.

The way it actually played out, just soo very badly revealed the weaknesses of the system (culling and very shallow repetitive combat system in big groups).

Long fights doesn’t mean fun fights, even if the game weren’t so crummy at it.

karma.8763:

Just because its a monday morning, doesnt mean the servers should be literally ghost towns, theres no excuse. Been in plenty of mmo’s where monday mornings there were PLENTY of people on.

Actually I am in game now with map chat on in L.A., and there’s lots of calls for PUG FotM of a wide variety of levels. I’m on overflow so I don’t know what server it is, but suffices to say, if you want a PUG (ugh), there’s a bunch of friendless players eager to take you on.

The only stat that’s not at all helpful, possibly, is condition damage.

The way GW2 works, everyone has a heal, so even tho healing power doesn’t give a lot of benefit, you will get benefit. We all do damage, are vulnerable to taking damage, so it’s all beneficial, even if it comes in smorgasbord form.
Get gear with stats like that, and you can change your build (which is cheap) without changing your gear (which is expensive).

It’s why the Divinity runes are so expensive.

There’s just not enough legendary weapons around to raise much fuss about one way or the other.

Of course, players could skin their legendary onto a new weapon when gear levels rise. But what difference does it make?

This strikes me similar to the concerns about some wealthy people not paying as high tax rate as normal middle-class. Unfair? Judge for yourself. But there’s sooo few people in that nose-bleed section that it really doesn’t matter in terms of the economy. Same with legendary weapons. Few people have them and no one’s walking around with a bag full.

Rakhar.4615:

mulch.2586:

I know in Rift, you’d submit a ticket and they’d fix your mistake, even when it’s blatant player-error like this. They view it as customer-care, with a real service attitude about support.

NCSoft, in my experience playing Lineage 2, doesn’t view support tickets as a customer-care thing, more like a police thing. So if you got scammed or lost items or whatever, all you can do is file a report.

Just like in real life, you’re better off never talking to a cop.

Well that post seemed helpful and on-topic. It’s a good thing the game has players like you around to support it, otherwise people might get negative impressions.

/sarcasm

I actually did mean for it to be helpful and on-topic.

If you played a game owned by a US company (say Rift or WoW), you’ll have mistaken expectations about customer support when you approach an NCSoft-owned game (or I suspect any Korean/East Asian company, my experience with Sony was similar).

GW2 support are there to enforce rules and report bugs, not there to help you.

I’m sorry for the OP’s loss. It sounds actually minimal, not exotic stuff, and you can salvage the runes.

Right now, 9:52 am server time on a Monday, I’m in a Lion’s Arch and turned on map-chat (which, by the way, the game plays MUCH better when it’s off).

Map chat is full of people looking for FotM PUGs of all levels, and a couple of the usual AC ex, etc. But really full of FotM.

I urge you to avoid PUGs whenever possible (because you get schmucks joining for lvl 3 and not being lvl 3, among other things). But there are PUGs aplenty.

After you’ve suffered a couple PUGs, hopefully you’ll have made a friend or two to play with.

(edit: I’m not sure which server it is, cuz I’m on overflow)

I know in Rift, you’d submit a ticket and they’d fix your mistake, even when it’s blatant player-error like this. They view it as customer-care, with a real service attitude about support.

NCSoft, in my experience playing Lineage 2, doesn’t view support tickets as a customer-care thing, more like a police thing. So if you got scammed or lost items or whatever, all you can do is file a report.

Just like in real life, you’re better off never talking to a cop.

Let’s think of what ANet is really good at — what they cut their teeth on in GW1.

Dungeons (meaning small group instanced content)

sPvP

So we get to GW2, I’m gonna expect that it’s gonna be dungeons and sPvP.

Look at what we have, and those are the only parts of the game that aren’t consistent bug-fests. The only reason anyone tolerates WvW is that GW2 is one of the very few games that’s attempting to provide it in a non-pvp game.

Dungeons = be all end all? I don’t think that’s what ANet wants.

But it is what they’re good at.