Guild Wars 2

As Danikat mentions, if you’re not doing fractals it won’t have as great an impact on your game play should a different meta arise with game changes. Personally, I do not do fractals, but I would like to make one set of ascended armor for each of my toons (I have one light, one medium, and one heavy). I don’t really need it, but it’s just a goal I have since I’d rather put my time to that than to legendaries, none of which I like.

However, since I don’t do fractals, I will be making berserker armor for all three, as I know I can use that in all PvE content (even my necro is a power build in WvW and PvE). That being said, I know the min-maxers who do fractals would be quite concerned about future changes to meta. What does concern me in particular is wasting runes, as those will need to be changed from time to time, and can run into hundreds of gold.

All in all I get what the OP is saying and I agree that since we can’t even get the mats back out of this armor if we choose to use something different, then being able to change stats would at least be something to help make “old meta” armor useful.

Played around with Rose’s look. I like the result.

I’ve had that happen to me several times now in Divinty’s Reach. I talk to the banker and when I leave my character disappears, even though I can still move through the map. I find it… a … disembodying… experience.

combined 4 lvl 80 rares in mystic toilet. 3 weapons and one piece of armor. got the lover. this was during an extrely lucky two days when i had 11 exotic weapons drop for me in game. thought maybe and correctly the luck might hold at the forge. i attempted many forges before that but didn’t track how mich i spent. never had a precorsor drop in game.

I would like to see a list of winners or it didn’t happen.

I’m all for it… one hour birthday booster. Nice

Electro.4173:

I’m assuming you’re talking about the new armor sets, and if so, I don’t understand the complaint seeing as all 3 sets DO have pants (well, the light one on females is a bit iffy, but the rest definitely do). Sure, they have a “skirt” cape type thing in the back (I’m sure there’s an actual term for this, but I don’t know what it is) but they have pants as well.

The term is “butt-cape”. You’re welcome.

I’m in the same boat as Sariel V. As a noob player I had no idea about any of those things either, so I deleted ALL my PvP skins, which I hugely regret now.

This is yet another way that proves that, while ANet keeps talking about making things “easier” for new players to understand, they fail horribly in some important aspects. I had no idea about PvP lockers, and of course, none of us could know that eventually PvP armors would be usable in PvE. There is never any good in-game info on the important stuff in this game. Learning to dodge seems pretty self-evident, whereas finding and using the PvP locker is nigh impossible if you don’t already know about about it.

Anyway, back on topic, if they’re to make better rewards retroactive, I agree that they’d have to be somewhat careful about what they might choose to add for the COOL factor. So, I could maybe see something account bound, like… PvP skins!!! Or how about dungeon tokens of your choice? Like maybe 100 tokens per 500 points? You can’t sell those armors/weapons, but players could use them to salvage or throw into the mystic toilet (gold sink). Hmmmmm?

Can we have an ANet person come in and let us know if changing the AP chest rewards is something that they 1) will not consider changing; 2) may change with enough ideas/feedback from players; or 3) already know is an issue and are working on making the rewards feel more rewarding?

I don’t think we even needed free respec of traits; more rather, we did need the change on the fly aspect where you don’t have to visit a trainer, as that was a hastle. Personally, paying a few silver to respec would be far better than free re-traits and would be FAR FAR superior to what we now have.

I have now 2 level 80s since after Apr 15, and both have fewer than 10 traits each.

What really gets me is the stance from ANet that the April 15th change was to encourage experimentation with traits, when it is obvious to anyone with a brain that that is not the case. It is a time/gold sink ONLY. In not one way did this new system change anything for the better, OTHER THAN the change on the fly trait respec option. Every single other aspect of this made it worse, harder, more confusing, more expensive, and more out of reach of new players.

I have personally decided to just delete the new toons I made, as they’re simply boring cookie cutter builds, and not fun to play.

i agree that an actual BL ticket would perfect!

AlexVv.3965:

Tonight … short hike..

LOL… very cool. Thanks for the laugh

I remember the “good old days” when opening one of these chests was exciting. But I haven’t felt that for a long time. Getting some cool PvP armor was sweet. Now, it’s no better than a champ bag. In fact, I get better stuff out of champ bags, because I can at least get some T6, exotics, rares, coin, etc.

These chests, especially after 5,000 AP, should be something to actually want to strive for. But they’re lacking in most respects. That’s my opinion. I’d really like to see the rewards enhanced. Not necessarily in coin, but in something COOL, something that will make me search out achievement points instead of just thinking “oh, ho hum, a chest full of… a whole lot of boredom”. How about one BL ticket scrap? How about a random mini or random exotic or even, at the milestone ones, an ascended trinket?

As it is, I am only looking forward to the 10,000 chest, and only because of gems and larger amount of laurels. Then what? Another 10,000 AP of boredom? C’mon ANet. Step up and make these more exciting. We have enough boring loot in game.

Hi Gaile While I’m sure we all appreciate your response, I believe the reason that the thread has gone from suggestions to merely complaints is that probably every possible suggestion has already been made, yet players still want to voice their concerns and opinions on these still-bad April changes. We also don’t want the thread to fall to the wayside or be forgotten. As others have pointed out, this issue may not affect all players immediately, but it DOES affect ALL players eventually.

As people come across issues with the trait system, they look on the forums for a place to voice their own issues. If they can use this thread to do that, then I think that keeps it all together and keeps the company AWARE that this is still an issue, and a very important one, because it is ruining fun for many.

To boot, most of us probably do not understand why it is taking this long to see actual changes to this system. It is unreasonable for us to wait YEARS for fixes to this broken system.

Shpongle.6025:

i found 3, i don’t think i’m going to win anything at all lol

That’s ok, don’t feel bad if you don’t win. Remember that millions of other players will also not win. You are not alone. This game is all about rewarding a few lucky people.

Here’s my necro as Harely Quinn.

MokahTGS.7850:

Dinner is served?

Aaaahhhaaaaaaa that is awesome.

I actually appreciate that Gaile reads the forums because, seemingly, she wants to, and I’ve noticed she posts on her days off and/or after hours as well during the week. That is great.

On the other hand, I can’t help but feel sympathy for Gaile because it seems like she is often told “go post here so people see something red – make it sound positive but don’t give out any real or meaningful info”. Those posts, while I can’t fault Gaile for doing her job, will eventually wear out or overshadow positives from other posts.

Overall I do feel that Gaile wants to make the game better, and for that, I say Thank You Madam ….. <<*curtsies*>>.

Necro is awesome for mass tags. Use a good well build with staff (for marks). Use plague for elite. Death Shroud #4. You can’t miss man.

By the way, what I said about BL skins is perfectly transferrable to the dungeon skins rewards. Totally not worth it.

If you LOVE doing the dungeons or teaching others how to do them, and do them anyway, then have at it, and eventually you’ll get the pittance reward. If you don’t like it that much, then the reward isn’t worth hating the game over.

Labjax.2465:

snip – Talk about disparity between effort and reward.

Yes, exactly why I would personally never bother with this stuff. I mean really, look at collecting BL skins. Were you to even do one full collection, if you actually had to buy every skin – oh let’s pick something not crazy expensive, I don’t know, Dream Thistle weapons – it would cost thousands of gold, or, alternatively hundreds of RL dollars to buy chests to maybe get enough tix for skins, or, again alternatively, months of grinding keys. For 7 tix and 1 AP. 7 tix gets you 1/3 of yet another collection, and the grind goes on. For literally NOTHING. If you’re not having fun, it’s no longer a GAME.

ProRulez.5207:

Thanks for the replies, thing is, im in the army, i can’t realy farm every day.
i just want to come back home for the weekend and have fun playing.
so unmotivating all that precurser situation.

You don’t need a legendary to enjoy the game.

My personal experience: About a year ago decided I wanted to make a legendary (just to make one, even though I didn’t really want it). I ground HARD and made Sunrise. To the point where I hated logging in for quite a while. I sold it, and was happy I did. I bought a ton of other cool stuff with the gold.

Now, I’m making another, because I ended up getting The Lover out of the MF by sheer luck. However, I’m not grinding, and I refuse to buy any of the ingredients with gold, so I’m just doing what I want and saving up the stuff I need. It’s way better that way. I feel no urgency to make the thing (again, I will just sell it when I’m done).

I also have limited play time. I am not going to ruin my enjoyment by grinding. I suggest you may want to simply change your perspective/goal. Even if you super want that legendary, just play the game, and realize it will simply take longer to get your final prize… and that’s ok. You need to WANT to play for more than that, or once you get it, you’ll have nothing left to play for.

Sariel V.7024:

Someone’s already claiming to have submitted 7500 of the things.

May as well forget it.

That means nothing, really. You only need one ticket to win. That person’s odds may be marginally higher than the person who puts in 1, but in reality, you could put in 50,000, and out of say, 1.5 million, you could easily still get nothing. Everyone who puts in even one wrapper has a chance.

I have to agree with Astral. It’s a L2P issue. You can’t have the same skills line up for every different thing you do in game. Sometimes, you have to change them, to suit the situation. If you’re going into the labyrinth, change your traits so that you have stability and condi cleanses. As much as possible of both.

Tuomir.1830:

You are unable to use them if you have the permanent one unlocked.

Ok i didnt realize that since i’ve never been in that situation. i assumed you could use either the permanent or nonpermanent.

Guhracie.3419:

ozmaniandevil.6805:

Use them up by killing 100 players!

There’s no need to use something up when the OP already has the infinite, permanent versions. Does nobody read anymore?

Of course i read the OP. I’m not stupid. But he/she either uses them or deletes them. Might as well use them killing players :-/

Crazy Joe.6052:

Love my Necro, and decided to do an edit with the moon.

Well done! That looks fantastic.

Use them up by killing 100 players!

Donari.5237:

It’s ALWAYS the Chantry of Secrets.

True. Always true.

Do you not have to buy some recipes from a laurel vendor also, for gold and 5 laurels each?

Osculim.2983:

Why are people still going on about this ? If you looked around a bit Anet already said they will be changing it with a custom option soon just hang in there.

Because the WRONG thing is still there, so they’re still milking it. I wonder just how long “soon” will take. Probably a month or two until the next quarter earnings comes out.

I don’t think that fellyn’s feelings are shared by most. It’s not like the OP regretted a purchase because they could have got more gold this week rather than last week. It was an error, from clicking a whole bunch of stuff over and over. Anyone could make that kind of mistake. I would feel sick if that happened to me. I know I’ve done stuff similar, though not on that scale. You get slightly distracted or whatever; you’re tired, you just click out of habit. Everyone does it. Everyone.

I really hope the OP gets his Dusk back.

Gregori is right. And on top of that, many new players will simply FEEL bored and frustrated and not come to the forums.

I don’t think “better than nothing” will suffice. Sorry.

chemiclord.3978:

Lord Kuru.3685:

But history says that in the past, holidays have not had such a dramatic effect. So why this time?

Because this time they have a raffle for one of the most highly sought after and coveted skins in the game (the chainsaw greatsword), and a item that you can buy from the gemstore (for I think 25 gems a piece) that gets you one “entry” in that raffle.

Couple that with having to buy gems 400 at a time, and knowing how much people love to gamble… no, I’m not at all surprised the gem rate spiked so highly so quickly. I have no doubt there were a multitude of players grabbing 100,000 gems or more for themselves.

There need not be any conspiracy when simple human behavior explains issues better.

Don’t discount ANet adding an outfit that is a beautiful dress. The best looking outfit in the game at this point. If you go anywhere right now you’ll see how popular this is. I bought one, regardless of the gemgate fiasco. Divinity’s Reach is filled with players in this outfit. That alone would be a huge boost to gem sales. HUGE.

So, it only took like, 30 pages on the gemgate scandal to get some action, yet here we are, 57 pages in to traitgate and… what?

ANet, I honestly would like to know WHY? Maybe we should “revolt” against this en force as well?! It affects our gold. It affects our time.

Time for change here. 7 months past time, actually.

I hate to break it to all you fine people but ANet don’t want your suggestions. They blithely said the same garbage about traits, about SEVEN MONTHS ago. “Oh, we did something you don’t agree with? Please give us suggestions on how to fix it”. 40-some pages in ANet employee comes on to say “this is too much to read, please summarize your thousands of suggestions and we MIGHT fix something”. That alone was around 1.5 months and another 15 pages ago. And guess what? Nada. System is still garbage.

THEY. DON’T. CARE. As long as cash flows into the bank, you can save your breath, because all they hear are the sounds of “chaching”.

I am honestly, honestly sad about the way things are going in this game. And I have loved it, even when my family members stopped playing out of boredom, I stayed, and I played. Now I’m just. plain. sad.

It really seems like the people who make these decisions are not players AT ALL, or they forget one of the first rules of marketing: know your audience. If this is all because this is how they like it in China, well, why are you discounting how your NA and EU players feel? I feel like I no longer matter AT ALL to this company, as a customer.

I’m done with CDIs, I’m done with “suggestions” that are not even wanted as they are 100% ignored. I think at this point anyone who attempts to have any meaningful interaction with ANet are simply fools or are fooling themselves.

lunacrous.6751:

Still waiting on an answer as to how this is supposed to help new players when the lowest amount of gems costs more gold than a new player would reasonably have. Not expecting one, TBH, but still waiting…

Yes, especially when they must save 42g and 300 skill point to buy TRAITS.

We do need to keep this thread on topic and constructive.

Any word on a revamp yet ANet? I really feel that you’ve gotten well more than enough feedback to make some decision on how to improve the “new” (really getting old now, isn’t it??) trait system. Yet another patch has come out with no improvements. Why?

Well I give ANet kudos for one thing… I bet the 58/59 page thread about the AWFUL trait changes, which they are ignoring (seemingly until the end of time) will likely fall down the list on page 1.

I’m shocked at how shocked some people are here. This is really “par usual” for ANet at this point.

At ANet… how can you even be suggesting we should stop “ranting” about such an obvious decision that is only good for money making, and does NOTHING to enhance player experience??? You are all either blind or think we are complete idiots.

This is not directed at the one poor ANet liason who’s posted in here, but at the company in general.

lordkrall.7241:

A rather interesting thing I have wondered about since the start of this thread is how many of the people in this thread actually used the Gold to Gem system.
I have seen rather many posts that starts with something along the lines of: “I don’t use this thing…”

I used it often, exactly have others have said, to top up gold or gems, with odd small numbers. Now I will NEVER use it. Ever. But that is exactly what ANet want (well, the gold to gems part, anyway). Let’s face it, if the minimum gold you can use to convert to gems is like 76g, no one is going to do that. It would SEEM much better to just pay $10 and buy them…. VOILA!!! ANet makes more money. Sad. Very freaking fracking sad they feel the need to go to these lengths to milk the players.

The only reason for this change is to STOP players from converting gold to gems, so that it would mean more players spending REAL MONEY to buy them. That’s it. That’s all. Disgusting business practice to slap players in the face, YET AGAIN (traits… that’s all I’m going to say). Then the ignore and ignore and ignore the backlash until we just give up.

My son’s boyfriend recently bought this game and I wish I could go back and tell him to save his money. To be sure I will never recommend it to anyone again.

Palador.2170:

Gaile (and “the team”),

My suggestion: Have a button marked “Set custom amounts”, that takes you to the old screen. Add a “Return” button to the old screen to take you back to the new one.

My position: I rarely buy gems with gold. I’m casual, and rarely have much gold. I blow it on gear for my alts, or getting skins in-game. Right now, I actually have less than 18 gold. But I often exchange a few gems for gold to get that last little bit I need to get something I want from the market. It works (worked) great for me. Sometimes, I’d just take any leftover gems I had when it was a small amount, and exchange them all. Now, I can’t do any of that.

My rant: This is a very clear marketing ploy, it’s online marketing 101. This is hardly the first place I’ve seen it, and I’ve never really liked it but I’ve dealt with it when I had no other choice. The problem here is, I DID have a choice, until it was taken away. This part of the game has been made more hostile and predatory towards the players. There is no denying this, even if it did come with a cleaner exchange screen. (And for what it’s worth, the new exchange screen is pretty kitten nice. I like the totals that show at the top.) People are upset, not just at this but at this on top of all the other distressing changes that have been made in the last year. Anyone surprised by the backlash this instigated really isn’t paying attention.

With due respect,
Palador

Pretty much summed up my thoughts perfectly. Good suggestion as well.

I think it’s simply a matter of “do you feel lucky today?”

When I got The Lover out of the MF, I went there because over 2 days I got 11 exotics as drops. I had NEVER EVER had that kind of luck in my 2 yrs of playing, so I thought, hey I wonder if this will carry over to MF? And BLAM! Yes… yes it did. Never be that lucky again, I’m sure, no matter how much I throw in, my account is back to regular bad luck.

My only precursor came from all level 80 rares, 3 random weapons and 1 armor. I’ve tried exotics, all of one type of rares and exotics, and using the MF stone. Only the one precursor. I don’t really think it matters which one you get (unless it’s an underwater one), as you can always sell it if you don’t want it and use the gold to buy the one you do.

lorndarken.3702:

ozmaniandevil.6805:

Zoso.8279:

Necro in GW2 are good just like GW1 imo. MM necro is how necros should be played. In GW1 MM would always make you feel like you were being swarmed and I still get that feeling from the MM in GW2.

Swarmed by minions that don’t attack? Interesting.

in guild wars 1 , go to the jade quarry wait for your team mates to kill off a bunch of guard then use elite skill aura of the lich summon your starting army and then proceed to troll enemy ports while your pets laid waste to them as soon as the ported , grab pop corn , sit back and laugh

I sure wish GW2 minions were useful like that!

Zoso.8279:

Necro in GW2 are good just like GW1 imo. MM necro is how necros should be played. In GW1 MM would always make you feel like you were being swarmed and I still get that feeling from the MM in GW2.

Swarmed by minions that don’t attack? Interesting.

It’s not armor. It’s the new outfit from the gem store. You can’t use just the top. You use it all or nothing. Raiment of the Lich.

I would think you’re just on at a low coverage point. I also suggest going to EB, as that will usually have more action than the Borderlands on off-peak hours.

That’s not a fall. It happens to me all the time at one particular spot in FGS. Not every time, of course, but enough, and not just to me, that everyone dodges down or jumps or skirts around the hill as much as possible. Anyone who’s done the champ train there knows what I’m talking about. You just die in 2 secs while running down a slight hill path.