Guild Wars 2

Murderin.8269:

I cant help but wonder why you balance classes in SPVP and completely ignore class balance in WVW. Many skills are completely useless in WVW but they have been improved to a useful point in SPVP.

Half the class changes in the last 6 months only benefited people that do SPVP.

WVW is PVP too. And some people prefer it over the completely separate joke that is SPVP.

yeah its very frustrating. in spvp i can play my mesmer and usemany different builds. i have a hard time vs the condi spam and cc warrior, but i still feel like i can kill and be strong.

in wvw i feel up.
all u see is warriors, guardians to support the warriors and necros. statistics have already shown that mesmers are the least played class, but in wvw its even worse as all we can do right now is siting at the back line being support builds. veil/tw/porta bots. phantasms fail often. los is too much and we have little access to aoe. phantasms are pir aoe and shatters, but the clones die in 1 second, they never reach their target and very often phantasms are not hitting anything.
now anet is stating that they are happy with the mesers. wow sry, but i play this class everyday in wvw groupfights with other people playing mesmers and no i am not happy at all with the wvw mesmer and just giving us a mantra that is again support only is not what im looking for.
why is temportal curtain still nerfed? while warriors can spam ccc like crazy u nerfed our temporal curtain with a 1 second delay? if u allow this cc and condi spam them u might wanna unnerf many things u did to us.
tc, bb nerf, glamour builds, ic nerf, clone health. and how about improving our heals and survivability in zerg fight?

also eles need unnerfs in spvp and some stuff in wvw aswell. in wvw the ele is at a good spot and doesnt need a lot of buffs, but in spvp, they need help.

rangers are great roamers and good in spvp, but also lack builds for wvw zerg or large group fights.

guardians are in a good spot in spvp, but in wvw they boons are a little over the top. but at least they are killable and they do give up a great deal of dps to be tanky supports.

warriors needed help in spvp and yes its good to see them back in this gamemode, but the cc spam is even in spvp frustrating and the healing signet is a joke. in wvw they are op with almost no counter (unless again in a 1v1 roaming situation which is like spvp)
they have it all: huge health pool, massive cc, almost immune to conditions, too much stability, a lot of access to invulnerability, can rez with the banner which is a problem with keeplords being rezed over and over, and this is all made worse due to the fact that wvw allows consumables. they are godmode and close to be a broken class in wvw, forcing everyone to zerg up.

i would like to be able to run with my mesmer group again and actually be viable without having to bring at least 5 warriors.its not fun to be forced to play a support only. neither is it fun to see 1 class dominating the entire gamemode with very little effort while my class has to improvise and work 10 times as hard to get ta similar result.

wooot. woah finally anet answers avout this issue. ty

sas.6483:

Stinson.5972:

So all in all, still deciding between finding a place in T1 or picking a different server in T2.

I thought about this for a while too recently, after coming back from a work related break to find WvW on DB a wreck. I’m hesitant to leave, at least for the time being.

For transferring to a server that is stable and probably about what DB was a couple of months ago, the best choices seem to be Mag, FA or SoS. My guess is that at least one of those is going to be getting smashed every single week in gold league, and at least one will be facerolling nearly every week in silver, so good fights might be tough to come by. TC I thought about too, but my guess is they’ll be getting smashed nearly every week also and have worse queues. … speaking of which, will probably be a problem in any T1 server. I think that there will end up being a lot of people ending up disappointed with their transfer, no matter the froms and tos.

Then again, if you think the environment is toxic and if it’s “can such-and-such server be any worse than DB” instead of “will such-and-such server be better than DB,” it might be time to move or take a break. I can sort of see why you think that, no commanders on any map, constant 3-5 on 1 numbers against PvE geared DB militia vs organized and experienced TC WvW guilds, TC players who refuse to fight on the rare even player number matchups that happen, etc. does not make for a fun WvW experience. But I am guessing (hoping) that things will change soon enough. There are new commanders starting to pin up occasionally, and we’ll see how it goes. T1 and T2 will always be there and hungry for new players, there’s no rush.

hope for tc to endure the being smashed for weeks. im on fa and the t1 matchups have left quite the footprint on our morale. people are very tired after these intense matchups. jq’s smashing matchup was ver discouraging for us. we tried hard, but jq even bought a big na guild from us and stuff like this made us lose our fighting spirit a little.
im sure we will recover though.after all fa has ben smashed by tc for weeks in t3. i hope for tc to stay strong and hold out till the leagues are over. dont let t1 steal your good guilds.
i think fa is not logging in that much this week as we kinda need a vacation after jq. but when we are out in force we kick kitten. so if we drop to silver i wish for any t2 server that gets put in gold to hang in there.

Xom.9264:

Necro is a hard counter for hammer train if you are talking about group play… 5v5 and up etc….

2v2 Necro + Guard is really strong probably the strongest combo in the game.

Warriors are a bit on the strong side but its nothing you cant counter not like the days when thiefs and mesmers where OP forcing people to go full bunk or die instantly.

errr u had to go bunker because mesmer in zergs were op?lol. the only reason mesmers were strong was due to glamours and being bunker aint gonna help u if spam buttons without thinking…erm and btw toughness doesnt help vs conditions. mesmers are up in a zerg situtation atm. no aoe, no stability, bad condition cleansing, downgraded as veilbots. they are still great as roamers, but wvw is not the roaming game, its about large group fights and im not talking 5v5 spvp group, im talking 20vs 20 and up.

u gotta see the picture here wvw is not about roaming and small encounter although they do happen of course, but the action is where the big groups attack a keep and your group pushes out to repel them. now, in these situation the class balance is a complete joke. warriors accompanied by guardians and necros is the strongest group, but warriors can do just fine by themselves: they can clean conditions, have mass cc, massive heal and regen, massive toughness, massive armor while dealing great dmg.

necros are very very strong, but they have no stability, so they struggle in this horrible lame cc spam meta aswell, but at least they got aoe and viable zerg builds. guardians are at a great spot too and i would say eles aswell (they could use some love though)

the classes that are lacking viable zerg builds (again im talking 15+ situations not roaming):

mesmers: since glamours and all the nerfs, have very little builds and every build lacks something. no zerg viable builds at all

rangers: same. they have some half zerg builds but like the mesmer they are not really viable or even close to comparable with builds available to the dominant classes

thieves: are in a little better position as they can run in and out of combat and do have access to various cleansing and can actually afford to be glassy, but they also lack zerg builds like rangers and mesmers

anet does have to look at balance from a group play pov aswell. its not fun for me to be a utility slot veil bot that either cant kill anything or is a glass cannon rallybot.

Sororita.3465:

Moon.6371, pretty much yeah…just went roaming and everyone i ran into was warriors. met a few warriors that i couldnt even damage.

yep im a mesmer and no i dont roam much i used to like zergfights, but my class has become quite nonviable du to the nerfs and the overbuffing of the warriors. while i lack aoe which i urgently need to contribute in a zerg, i melt in zergs. no stability, not enough cleansing, not enough dps(if not glass cannon). anet nerfed glamour builds in 3 ways, making them non viable, but buffed all other classes. warriors cc spam is way worse and frustrating than glamour ever was. but hey anet is happy with the mesmer atm, i play it every day in wvw zergs and i am not happy with the terrible state we are in at all. and no i refuse to reroll, because the balance team balances around roaming and 1v1.
atm i gotta say, im not having fun at all. wvw is a mess and balance is a complete joke!

yep thats why all u see is warriors these days. they are godmode right now, but anet sees no problem with this at all. meanwhile the terrible balance in wvw is pushing people away from the game. bannering the lord should have some sort of cooldown or something.it’s a very very broken mechanic.
wvw is becoming even more dull and boring if all u see is warriors/guardians and necros atm(but even necros have a hard time in the cc heavy meta).
the heavy armor classes force other classes to join the zerg as alone they have no chance vs a warrior group. i run with a mesmer group and we are all great players, but lately its been very very frustrating for me. bad dps if u choose toughness, no defense if u choose power. conditions dont harm them. little to no aoe dg eventhough being a light armor class. they cc u to death , u cant stop them from rezzing the lord. they have too much access to everything while not having to give up anything.
either bring all the other classes up to warrior/guardian level or nerf that terrible meta the same way u nerfed glamour builds.
anet has to stop balancing for 1v1 or roaming only. the balance in wvw has to be based on large groups and zergs. warriors are brokenly op right now, but anet fails to see the meta or the problem.

its not fun to play like that as much as i want to play, but aslong as i cant bring my main class and be able to be viable and strong in a zerg fight, there is no reason to play.

i love my mesmer. i tried all other classes and mesmer is the one and only for me. :-)
welcome to the purple side.

Xom.9264:

I can agree with warrior stuns being strong but all you need is someone giving you stability (its a team based game after all) and all is well.

The other option is two stun breaks, really not a bad idea. Or spec for DS stability, too large an investment for my taste but it works well.

erm there is classes that have like no access to viable stability and as much as we got stunbreakers, there is simply not enough for the crazy cc spam meta. warriors need a nerf in many places. healing and cc need a serious tone down.

yeah this could actually fix the issue. atm everyone is running away from servers to the top 3 servers of each league and this is destroying many servers. t1 servers have mass recruited guilds and destabilized other servers. if guesting was possible it could work like alliances between servers. maybe u shouldnt be able to guest to an server u are facing atm as a restriction.

atm a lot of people are most likely gonna take either a 7 week breack, are leaving the server or simply quit gw2 if anet doesnt act quick about this issue!

ok the only real weak spot of a necro is that they have little to no stability. u cant run in their marks so try to pull em out. other than that their autoattack is too strong and the marks need a longer cooldown imo. necros and warriors are pretty much thr meta right now so try to use more ranged attacks while kiting them.
if u jump them with hearseeker or backstab the chain fears and conditions will get u quickly.

hihey.1075:

Are you using a staff ele?
I agree warriors are in need of a slight nerf, but in spvp they go down just fine, especially those fotm noskill warriors who just rerolled. This is not 3500armor wvw

yeah in spvp i can handle them if its not 2 of them vs 1, but in wvw they need way more than a slight nerf. in wvw they were never supposed to be buffed like this.

yeah well warriors are broken. too much of everything and anet failed to balance properly and probably will keep denying that there is a problem.here one of the many broken mechanics:

yeah blink is important as u wanna keep distance from the warrior. kite him around and save dodges for emergencies. i use mh/pistol scepter/torch against warriors. try to kite him and stay on distance. if u do the ileap combo, make sure u blink right out again. also decoy is very important.
in spvp im having less troubles vs warriors. in wvw stay away from the hammertrains. do a far circle around them.

aspirine.6852:

selan.8354:

Daendur.2357:

roll a war – spam random skills – win

pretty much this thats why i refuse to play a warrior and i refuse to be your veilbot. u want a portal or veil?do it yourself, oh u cant do that?well thats too bad. ill veil u again if i get better mesmer survivability and aoe dmg.

Yep, 0 minutes with my warrior in wvw. Untill they fix their OP-ness I will stay with my weaker chars :/

well the problem is, that anet nerfed the mesmer very very hard in the past. yes, confusion needed a shave but they decided to make the glam build unviable. then temporal curtain, bb, retal nerf, ic nerf, clones having less health. also the lack of aoe,stability and condition removal puts the mesmer in a very weak position. but im not gonna just reroll because of a broken class. i love my mes and wont give it up only because the devs dont know how to balance.
anet refuses to balance wvw seperatly and thats why wvw class balance is a complete joke now.

noticed that too. in wvw after capping bluewater i noticed that the regular ground footsteps sounded like i was on water.i dont own a legendary either.

Daendur.2357:

roll a war – spam random skills – win

pretty much this thats why i refuse to play a warrior and i refuse to be your veilbot. u want a portal or veil?do it yourself, oh u cant do that?well thats too bad. ill veil u again if i get better mesmer survivability and aoe dmg.

electriette.8952:

StealthSnake.9134:

From what I’ve seen so far I’m pretty sure TC would still beat SBI. SBI does have a really strong reset that can compete, but they fall off quite a bit after it. Both seem to have a comparable sea/oceanic, but TC still has the stronger NA.

If SBI does have the population to match TC, then I’m looking forward to it. Being alone in the T1.5 is depressing.

Also Mag what happened to the +695 ;____;

i dont think so tc. sry they had a good headstart, but atm they are having a prett hard time to live up to their self patting on the shoulder mentality. aaaand they have no dolly parade :-(

and who are u to demand such rules?

Noodica.5428:

It’ll make me sick seeing how high SBI’s ego will be if they win this round.. Cmon FA ><

actuall i dont mind at all and i hope mag double teams with them so we loose a loooooot of points and sbi can go deal with jq/sor/bg :-)

on a serious note. people are tired after all this t1 stress. we were bashed pretty hard for 6 weeks and now a lot of people are chilling a little. just fyi sbi your blobs are half of jq’s and u work with half of their speed and portalbombing….sooo t4.dont even try that vs t1 or tc.

i think anet will have to disable wvw for trial accounts from now on ad give the trials an instance that contains 1 bl so they can check it out.

Snafu.7412:

Who knew FA was a dead server.

oh we are not dead we are just all catching up on sleep after facing t1 for several weeks…btw sbi….if u get into goldleague instead of us. goooood lluuuck. XD

yeah warriors and guardians everywhere and then eles and necros. mesmers melt and are veilbots atm rangers are only viable due to a few cc’s. balance is a complete joke in wvw atm.

all i see though is wariors warriors and even more warriors and then guardians and eles

well sabotage is annoying as trolls can prevent u from pretty much doing anything. they will order upgrades to prevent supply in keep or in camps. they will build siege on top of yours so u have a hard time to grab the right one. they are crippling already outmanned servers…but i doubt there is anything that can be done about that.
after months of this we are kinda used to it….

im on fa and when im on during NA i ususally join RET. they are fun and strong. if u are looking for a coordinated guild, that isnt afraid to pushe even iv outnumbered 3 to 1 then ret is the guild for u.

nah in wvw having a legendary is like having a giant arrow above your head with sign: “I did a lot of pve, please kill!”

yeah can we get anupdate on that? the hair looks fozen. no animation and it clips into everything.

hmm having faced both of the servers during our past 2 matchup, i think jq is more aggressive atm, but the mass transfers will probably cause a lot of unorganized zerging whereas sor had those kinda numbers for a while now and had time to get used to it.

jq wouldnt give us a rest or a break at all eventhough they were sitting on 600ppt, sor is very competitive, but knows when its time to give someone a break. they never spawncamped us or laughed at us for not having the coverage. when they owned almost everything, they would leave and go fight tequatl or so. they even gave us time to upgrade so they could have a little fight.

jq is just leaving a 30 man zerg on the map to defen everything they own vs the only 15 people that havent given up yet. when those people cap something, which is a little morale boost, jq will attack and if they dont succeed in the first try they will call the entire 70 man blob over.

u guys gotta learn when too much is too much. u dont need to own everything to boost your ego. the t2 servers like to actually play the game and u are destroying it and destroying their moral so u can steal more of their guilds.

sorry but my bet goes in for sor…

Doomdesire.9365:

It’s not really OP as it is profession roles.

Guardians excel at zerging. Without guardians in your zerg, you won’t get anything done. Same with eles.

You also have your roamers, thieves and mesmers notably. Most classes either have a particular role they are exceptional at or are decent at all roles. There isn’t a class that excels at everything.

well warrior in its current state fore sure comes close to the excel at everything.
the roles are there, but its not ok that mesmers for example have to be only there to veil the warriors and guardians, while sitting in the backline. yes, we are a light armor class, but a little boost to our aoe abilities would be nice so we can nuke from the backline too.
light armor should be a little more in the back or middle field i think, but therefore we do need more viable aoe access.
its frustrating to be a utility bot. eles have aoe, necro have mass condition aoe… now mesmers need some form of better mesmer like aoe and it will be fun again.

on reset night 5-20 min after that none.server fa.

actually to prevent spying u could make the mercenary option so that the groups and guilds coming to assist u are from a different tier and not your current matchup.

i still think alliances could be a better option.
if u are in a blowout matchup like fa/jq/sos atm jq has more points than both of the servers together so if that happens the 2 outmanned servers could form an alliance and no longer attack eachother, but work together.

Dietzen.6127:

Ahh that’s sad though, I was kinda hoping there’d be a good confusion bomb build

hmm before the nerf the confusion bomb used to be the glamour build:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N736Yg57RcQ

u can still use it in a hybrid version with perplexity, but nowhere near as strong as it used to be

selan.8354:

blutstein.2468:

@selan: such a see of tears. Get over it and adapt your skills, mesmers are fine.

Everyone laughs or rails at the torch. Trait it, pair it with Powercleanse. Problem solved.

How I hate this ’a warrior does this, a necro does that, a ranger this. Mesmers are broken, We need to have heavy armor with deathshroud and a pet! ’-mentality. Compairing meteor shower with confusion is … lets call it weird!

already adapted way back but we are still not fine in wvw zerg fights unless u wanna be a veilbot or support. i dont enjoy neither of them. like i said in spvp i have absolute no problem with my memer. roaming in wvw is like spvp so same builds.

u fail the point im making. im looking vor viable aoe which we lack inw wvw since the glamnerf. we need something to compensate. the meta has changed a ton so right now its a cc meta where as a mesmer u cant survive very well. (in wvw not spvp not roaming not 1v1 i mean in zergs and big groupfights).

mesmer is a great 1v1 class, great duelist, but id like to have the option to adjust my build and set it for more aoe dmg. im a light armor class not a medium so i cant just run in a zerg like that. u will always be asked to brig veil and serve the other classes with tw and portals.

i dont want deathshroud or a hackslash build like a warrior i want a mesmer aoe that is not ai based as ai is pretty bad in (again wvw zerg/group fights not spvp not roaming, not 1v1)

K U T M.4539:

Cynz.9437:

Oozo.7856:

TooBz.3065:

Agreed. There is a great video out there of a thief with only an off-hand pistol killing people with these runes.

You must have missed his video of killing people with perplexity and fireworks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z-d9vGO52E

i think there was video of confusion warrior and engi abusing it as well
25 stacks of confusion is absolutely fine …yeah?

There’s a reason glamours were nerfed

glam was nowhere near this strong as getting 25 stacks was only possible with multiple mesmers and 25 stacks never lasted this long ever. glams are 3-5 seconds long and yes u can stack them if it hits 25 stacks it goes down very quickly.
the problem is that the 5 stacks per interrupt tick for 15 seconds o.0

etrigan.4213:

Honestly devs should play more WvW period. They are seriously disconnected from what the community wants.

they are so disconnected, that they arent probaby aware of what they’ve done with the leagues changes. putting t1 and t2 in 1 league was the worst mistake they could have done. the t2 servers are falling apart and the hungry selfish t1 servers lure them with gold away.
also the leaked balance patches show that devs are so detached that it hurts:seriously buffig warriors?!? oi and mesmers are not in a good place atm. we are servants,veilbots for the godlike warriors guardians and necros!

c’mon devon i dare u to play on fa during this http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/map/1019
oh and btw u are only allowed to either play a mesmer or a ranger and no not roaming. come build siege with us and try to cap things..

if u are fearless come to a t2 server;-)

Nick.6972:

So… what happened to FA? Last week we were playing against SOR yet we at least tried and were second… now all BLs have turned into wastelands.
Did all wvw guilds leave?

why even bother to log in when there is massblobs everywhere…. we are tired after facing 60+ vs our 20-25 that than turned into a 50+vs 10-15 because people get discouraged when getting rolled over and over, then the spawncamping blobs in eb. then u have a tower siege it up, then they strat through 35at it, then 45 plus golems, then 50 and aif that doesn hepl they just pvd it down with the entire map zerg.
after 35 people portalbombed 5 people plus a cata, i was chased all the way from garri to the citatel by 25 of them… we are tired and this is no fun!

im tired of being a veilbot really boring and no i dont wanna reroll a warrior or a guardian, necros are no my style. soe why do i have to give up the class i love, because anet fails at balancing wvw the right way?
im not a roamer i wanna be part of the fights, but being abused as an extra utility bot for the warriors and guardians and necros is ridiculous. ugh anet stop balanciing aroun spvp 1v1. go join a t2 server and fight the hammer/guardiantrains with your mesmer…and while you are at it enjoy the server imbalance next to the class imbalances.

Cynz.9437:

i am playig on IOJ, it might be not t1 server and we probably would get rolled by half of the servers out there but i love it here

not sure what you are talking about

as an fa member i gotta say its a big difference between getting rolled like fa did for weeks in t3 during tc/fa/cd and tc/fa/yb matchups. tc got a lot of transfers and rolled us, but we managed to get towers and actually keep them for more that 6 mintes. atm jq owns the entire map, then u go ahead and cap a tower and the moment u get garri, their entire blob portals in and takes everything back right away.
and most of the time u wont be able to get garrison back as the entire zerg will be waiting in the lorsdroom to wipe your maybe 10-15 people that.

lots of people arent logging on or staying. a lot of people dont wanna go to a map wher eu own nothing as they all know that ther is a 60+ man zerg just waiting for u to try to take something.

Advent.6193:

You wanna play, but not have the stress of T2, selan? Fine, get yourself and your crew down to one of the low 5 servers. (AR/DR/ET/FC/GOM). You’ll never run into T1, I guarantee that. And all 5 can use the bodies.

well if we all would transfer it would be more something t3/t4 going from t2 to t7/t8 would be a little too much i think, but for the moment fa will try to stay strong even though we are sitting on aroun 20 ppt at and sos is at 45 ppt……so yeah erm anet pleas u are destroying guilds/serves and fun with this kitten league thing, can u please act fast and release us from this enormous presuure called t1? let them please do their own thing.

and btw its not like fa gets destroyed by every zerg its more like u kill 30 with your 25, then they come back with 50 and u wipe them again and then they bring the entire map plus the zoo with them…..o.0

fa has a lot of great guilds and likes a good battle even with big zergs but 50-70 is not really fun anymore.
so we need a change quickly mr carver.

Coarr.3286:

you have 3 ways out of your spawn camp on every map, use one of the not camped.

lol yeah and then u make your way to the camp….zerg turns around and rushes 5 people with their 50-70 man zerg. once they have evrything they will just bully everyone till they log off. t2 servers are still strong, but the terrible matchups during league will def pay its toll

chestnut is on fa actually and was part of when we had nothing and we built 40 omega to get our bl back, but he hasnt been on since…i think he transferred to t1 XD jk

anet is killing t2 servers atm due to lack of listening. we told u months ago tht t1 shuld not be matched up with anything below them because of blowoutmatchup like the current sos/fa/jq matchup. now people are panicing and fleeing servers due to the league setup. allow alliances soe if 2 servers points together are less than the leading servers alone that they can join forces. oe do soemthing fast. wvw is not fun for anyne atm. we wanna playyyy!

TheAmpca.1753:

Rama.6439:

If you all are QQ about being outnumbered then you all are barking up the wrong tree. When I was on TC and we would get SoR, BG, or JQ, we loved it, we knew we were outnumbered, but we liked the fights, cause we always won, they might have won the ppt match, but we always won in open field, we would go up against 50-60 with just 30+ but we were organized, we used mumble, had good commanders, everyone was in chat and listened, even militia was in mumble and we all followed the tag, and we would always go for the open field fights, everytime, and we won almost everytime, so don’t sit here and cry about being outnumbered, numbers have absolutely nothing to do with it, a lot of people like to be the underdog, cause they know they can kick the bigger dogs kitten , even if they don’t win the over all fight.

It’s not fun being on FA, doing okay/winning NA timezone then coming on to see that during the night they capped EVERYTHING and had 600+ ppt. Also, TC has quite a few more players than FA and you don’t feel the pain as much. FA is fun on reset/weekend when the numbers are still strong because we win a lot but during the week its all boring

used to be the other way around when we a were facing tc in t3. na was not really present so at night mainly my old guild and a few others had to try to get our bl back.
we actually did have a blast every day. idk how long u have been part of fa, but this is what we are used to, but at least we could take thigs back and have epic fights for keeps, now its just trying to avoid the monsterblob at night.
fa is fun but if u face a t1 server that has his strongest time during oceanics and sea(fa always lacked sea), then yeah na will log in with nothing. welcome to fa in t3 fir 13/14 weeks. used to log in during oceanics with nothing at all and then had to cap everything back.
;et me guess u are one of the guild that just left fa and this was the excuse u use to justify the bandwagoning. well how about u check out some fa history. the only reasoen fa had not complete blowout matchups during t3 after tc got all the transfers, was because of [GODS] NA and {PTX]{PRO} oceanics and we in oceanics used to log in to very very little to nothing.
we used to get double teamed and tc mad even a guild called [FA]good luck in tier 4
so yeah we didint fall apart then nor will we this time. facing a t1 server is less fun though as our smaller havoc groups cant really make a difference anymore as thre is a giant blob present on every map.
t1 is very far apart from t2 and thats why they need their own matchup and league as it will not be as much fun for them either to be facing a zerver with like half their coverage during certain timeslots.

Gab Superstar.4059:

If you don’t even want to test your skill and try to win against higher tiered servers I don’t know what to say…

erm dont know if u get the whole thing here do u? seems like u dont know anything at all actually.
dont u think all of us havent tried our skill vs a higher tiered servers? this is week 3 vs t1 servers for FA go check the score.
we all fight. we kitten siege capped 1 tower we took yesterday and the t1 server kept throwing 60 + people on it, built omega golems, trebs and more golems and then took it with the entire zerg after getting our siege down.
believe me sos and fa are trying our best and it is impossible to even get fun out of this as all u see is giant blobs that rush everything they see like a big pack of hungry lions vs 1 mouse with a broken leg!
now u go and test your awesome skill vs that dude! for 7 weeks! u might wanna get some more info before posting.

style.6173:

It depends what you want to do.

Zerging:
Warriors are the strongest class, followed by guardians. Mesmers, eles, and necros are really important. The other classes aren’t too important. Should engis get aoe stability as rumored, they will immediately jump to crazy OP.

Roaming:
Thieves, mesmers, warriors, and eles are the best.

mesmers important…hmmm yeah for portl/veil/tw right so all passive stupid support, because we have a lack of aoe, stability, and condition cleansing.
all u see in wvw atm is warriors,warriors and then warriors again and then there is guardian and necro next and the eles then engis are great to and thieves of course

then rangers and mesmers are a utilitybot for the warriors and the guardians and then they are allowed to feedback and tw and then veil again they dont need a build they are just a support that need a little toughness to help the warriors getting lootbags..

well if we could at least play during those 7 weeks, but the t1 servers are so overwhelming that during sea u get spawn camped on each bl….. if we really have to fight t1 for 7 week, we will have to get like 10 more guilds at least and i really dont want fa to become a bandwagon server ever.
we all like fights and a good fight is actually more important than ppt. we have amazing guilds and that will never change, but fighting t1 is plain boring. u get a few things and get somewhat agood ppt during na, then their monsterbolbs log on and zerg everthing and for the rest of the night they will spawncamp u. they are so desperate to find a fight that they chase 1 person though the entire map with the entire zerg….o.0 woah t1 must be really really really boring.
so for everyone considering gold league t1 is not the place to be as most of the matchups are gonna be like the current jq/fa/sos matchup. u guys aare probably gonna be stuck in queue while we fight hard everyday and get our achievements done in a few day due to lack of sleep and lots of effort. and some people probably wont be able to play a lot as the moment there is achievements, there will be pve players flooding in in hope to get a piece of the cake.
the moment this happens u guys will be stuck ina an endless queue.

Ostricheggs.3742:

http://www.twitch.tv/ostricheggs/c/3023189]

Ele VS Spirit ranger. Ranger activates three skills, gets CC’d, ele dies.

oh man that is terrible. i see where eles weaknesses are and gotta say it is not ok.cc is out of control atm and its not fun not being able to react or even block.
i main a mesmer and i have a hard time in spvp vs ranger too. in wvw cc is even worse as everyone runs warrior and they just stunlock u to death while u werent able to use 1 singe skill.
they are not unkillable as even with an op build a bad player is still bad. on my mesm i can at least stealth and escape the cc chain, but this kinda thing i see every day while in wvw or spvp. tu die, boom and then u check the log and see the tons of hits that were dealt to u within 2 seconds……o.0

Sarrs.4831:

nekretaal.6485:

Even the most balanced matchmaking ever isn’t going to change the fact that players en masse are transferring from losing servers to winning ones.

These transfers are the source of the imbalance, not anything anet does.

You’re not going back far enough when you’re finding the root cause of these things. Compare;

Servers are imbalanced because people transfer to stacked servers
Servers are imbalanced because people transfer to stacked servers because ANet makes it more beneficial to change to a winning server

Changing server isn’t a short term investment, and a raise in gem prices can’t be substantial enough to deter moving up. If anything, lower gem prices for moving to a lower tier server.

Rewards still need work in general.

Barbarous.8347:

JQ has never had quality players compared to BG or SoR. They always have the numbers but always lose the matchup.

during na prime sos and fa was actually able to put some pressure on jq their zerglings melt quickly if they face even numbers. i’ve met a few skilled guilds, but its a shame they are in t1 and not in other servers as they actually have some nice skills that cant shine in the middle of a giant zerg.

SpiceTrader.1859:

selan.8354:

then we get to at least play the game a little.

THIS. I’m generally not a complainer, I was fine with the random match-ups from the start. I didn’t even mind the orb buffs too much. But this is getting to the point where we can’t even get to play the game mode properly anymore. I just want to WvW and have fun with my guildies, servermates and friends. But, sadly, less and less people seem to be turning up in TS3 or showing up in the BL’s. It’s just getting more and more boring each passing day.

yep i feel u. i love running with my guild and we usually run in a smaller group and we love to get into fights, but with this t1 madness, we actually have to try to kite the zerg and avoid being discovered which is kitten the small map with 70 man zergs running around.
our ts i very very quite atm during oceanics as many many people dont even log on.
my guild is also feeling the boredom and are playing other games to compensate. and jq is not only capping and leaving, they stay there all the time and even build siege at eb spawn because they were bored.

and all they run is hammer/guardian/necro trains with a few eles as support….u run into a big blob mass cc condition bomb and get insta downed…man i even had 30 people chasing me after 50 people portalbombed us 5 plus the 1 cata we built……o.0
they are bored, we are bored….something needs to be done.

make maps bigger, create alliances. so for example if the current matchup is a blowout u could alliance with the other server. if FA could have an alliance with sos atm, jq would still beat us, but we could at least put up a fight. when im roaming in ebcamouflaged with my cat tonic(XD, u wont believe how many zergers thing u actually are a rangerpet) and see jq trying to take sos’s last eb tower ogrewatch, i go and place a supply trap behind the jq zerg so whe they come out of pangloss they hit it. not much but good for laughs.
but it would be great to be able to join forces with them. seriously sos and fa together would at least have a blast.
please anet make alliances during blowout matchups happen!

lets say 1 server has a certain lead over both of the other servers, it would trigger a voting system for the losing servers if they wanted to join forces. boom, done.