Was the balance team diamond atleast. I know that isnt a measure of skill. But do they even rank high in their own fake measure of skill. The dev team should have a deep understanding of the profession they are balancing.
They should be at the lvl of pro but still cant compete because of conflicts with work. Or atleast have constant contact with top pros who understand better than they do.
This balance in a vacuum strat they are using with no test map isnt a good one.
Am i correct in saying that they just consult with eachother and not outside of thier teams in order to balance? Can Karl beat an average player in game?
It is hard to balance walls in wvw because then they would need to balance them in pve also.
Played since release.. That was the last patch i could take. Off to better things.
This game started out so amazing. But i havent seen this bad decision making since UO age of shadows.
This is pure pve conversation?
Ive played rampagers krait for a year or so.. but pvp only. If you want that perspective i can give it.
I play a totally non meta build.. Noone played it but it was fun for me. I used almost none of the things the Meta mesmer used in pvp. Nerfs still destroyed my spec.
Why blanket nerf when you really want to nerf with percision vs a certain aspect of mesmer.
Was every single aspect of HOT mesmer OP or just 1 or 2 spec? If it was just 1 or 2 specs why nerf the entire profession in such a blanket way?
for pve. what mesmer will bring to a group is alacrity more than its own dps. so min maxing your spec is always a good idea. but not the bulk of your contribution. or are we at a point where we think we wont be alacrity sources over anything else?
hmm. “no longer possible to burst someone from 100-0 anymore.” kappa?
err. my main issue is the meta for mesmer is just stealthing and restealting trying to get a invis shatter on someone. it took a profession that was out in the open skillful and made it = to a thief pushing steal from out of los.
ugg.. my shatter missed.. i better blurr to stall until reveal is over so i can restealth again.. ugg missed that shatter too.. better distortion so i can stealth again..
old days=best days.
i always enjoy when other mesmers say thier build is harder to play because it is physical shatter.. when they run sword/torch gsword.. merauders PU decoy mass invis.
and im running rampagers scepter pistol/ gsword no pu or inspiration..
people just quote what they hear other people say i think.. they dont even know when it is propper to say these things.
i wish the new mesmer was more unique kinda.. its just old mesmer on crack mostly. which will be fun, after 3 years though.. new would be nice.
Mes+ele = Meele… i guess you are playing warrior.
It seems like this build is stuck on the fact that you want it to be as easy to play as possible. Only pushing your scepter buttons and shatter. Instead of maxing your potential as a mesmer. Dont look for the easiest to play, look for the best in a fight.
I dont understand your point. just a general QQ.
ya. but might alone dosent apply condi to your opponent.. you need some way to take advantage of the hybrid aspect of the build other than scepters normal attack/block/beam.
this is a super quick hybrid build as i would play it.. im sure there lots of people who would qq about this also..
also im not sure how this is hybrid other than you using rabid/dire gear in a build that mostly benefits from power.
seems like you went more defensive than hybrid.. i play hybrid and it works well in spvp. but i play rampagers. the build you linked seems like you are very concerned with dieing more than you are with killing something.
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-R3Sg;1VPV11y6BW-71;9;4STW;0038038056;4UsW4I;97W
this is my normal build.. pretty sure i just straight lose damage going DD.
I am not sure how you guys play.. But when i use x/pistol greatsword.. ill use my skills and swap to the next weapon to have cooldowns fresh.. then swap back.
in what situation are you sitting in x/pistol long enough to interupt 2x and get your pistol cooldowns back up without it being a huge dps/control loss in a fight.
by the time you swap to sword and swap back the pistol skills are off cooldown 100%.
the only way i can see this being used is if you play non crit.. x/pistol staff. and pistol will still take a hit from the lack of crits.
I dont think it is op at all. It is just bad design that it is such a crutch for warrior and also so low skill ceiling. I think it would benefit the whole profession to make the normal warrior weapons better and rampage shorter / more function. like a short burst/utility skill rather than the button i push before i start to pvp.
but the point is.. you cant counter decoy/torch invis. so you really have no point.
black powder heartseeker is so easy to interupt also. once that happens theives are usually done for..
then they shadow refuge.. get knocked out of it.. again screwed.. their way to enter stealth isnt the same and is easily countered.
if you think mesmer and thief are equal in any way before nerfs.. not sure what to tell you..
they only used to counter mesmers by hitting and resetting until the mesmer is out of cooldowns .. now the mesmer is never out of cooldowns…. and you cant force them to be out of cooldowns because they only have to burn one to enter stealth then just wait a heal or whatever defensive cooldown is needed for the next reveal.
it is litereally the lowest skill highest reward build in game to play a pu in its current state..
and i main mesmer.. its bad for mesmers and everyone else to keep it anywhere near its current state.
pu usually runs blinds.. and blink and blurred frenzy as power or scepter 2 as condi for a block… how is that 2 builds in one. they kinda have similar options.
the main point is that they only had to use those defensive cooldowns during reveal. then they just go back into stealth and set up for the next burst.. stealth is pretty much the most powerful defensive ability in the game.
i understand you can always nit pick when they say countless but……
a pu mesmer has enough stealth that thier only time required to be out of stealth is during reveal..
In that time they are revealed they have blurred frenzy.. or actual shatter distortion.. or just dodge 2x to stall out the reveal and go back into stealth..
If you think this is a hard thing to do in any way and requires any skill. not sure what to tell you.
Im more against things being low skill high reward than them being op.
If something takes alot of skill to play and works well at high end thats ok.. But i think rampage is the pu of warriors.
It is for people who cant read and dont know thier enemy and just eat damage to the face as they push all thier buttons. I dont think that should be the mainplaystyle of any profession.
That is the same argument pu mesmers gave for stealth. “i only have 24 seconds of stealth”
umm. in a 30-45 second fight that is alot. Also the first one goes on cooldown at the start of the fight not the end of the fight so you can chain them in the same order in less than 60 seconds from your fight.
Burrtheking how many seconds is that total for a fight.. to be immune to something.
the cooldown dosent matter if it can be chained for a good percentage of each fight..
we know that fights arent non stop and when you engage your new targets you ususally have the cooldowns back from the last fight.
the way pu mesmers fight at the moment is that they spike damage from stealth and count the seconds for reveal to go away until they can hit another stealth. that is not skilled gameplay.
the reason it is ok for theif is because they need to black powder atleast for thier combat stealth.. and that is easily interupted and then they are boned.
it took any skill out of a high skill profession and made it faceroll…
If a 0 skilled player played pu they can beat most other professions just through repeated resets.. if a good player plays pu they are pretty much unstoppable.
good thing most good mesmers got bored of pu and its skillless nature after 1 week and went back to a more fun burst.
I would say take away the 2 seconds of evade and make it so you can daze stun interupt.. so there is counter play.. the jumping randomly should be protection enough from most things. .
the class seems like they are giving bunkerish skills to a skirmisher.
The reason pvp “holds the rest of the game hostage” is because it is one of the only parts of the game where balance means anything at all.
If you are standing next to a person in your pve party and thier class isnt as good as yours.. Who cares.. You can be elitist and say.. “i dont want any of ???” but that is more of a personality issue than a balance issue. Because it has very little outcome on pve.
Wvw personal skill and balance matters very little also.. Pushing and pulling with a blob vs another blob is like playing lemmings or pikman more than any technical aspect of this game.
So Pvp dictates balance because it is the place where balance matters.. Where 1v1 2v2 2v1 etc are actually based on player skill + class strengths and weakness.
This stuff should be obvious and this thread shouldn’t exist.. But i hope this helped.
who cares about wvw it is a skillless blob fest. If you think winning wvw is in any way based on player skill you are fooling yourself.
no.. it will just push pve people into unranked.
ohh.. so you can get sparkle dresses without being good at pvp…………..who cares pver.. if you want to play the game to make your pixl doll shine and look pretty.. go for it.. you already have the advantage of pve.. where you can get all the good stuff while being horrid at the game.
you can be a spooky ghost now.. a person with perma invis is worth as much as someone who afks in base.
chrono makes mesmers who can play stronger.. pu makes mesmer that can not play stronger. i guess inspiration goes with the cant play theme..
mesmers pre patch played no condi clear glass cannons. if you could not play like that you still cant play chrono.. but you can play inspiration and pu.
point is.. it adds a side path for a skill cap. It is not a crutch as much as other paths can be.. So i think its a good thing not a negative like pu
hmm. in any shatter build that uses shatters .. with dodge roll trait i can have 3 clones up for every single shatter if i wanted to.. this dosent do much more but give you the 3 in a more lazy way.
for the most part if you are doing any actions after taking these 2 traits you will be wasting clones by replacing them unless you are constantly choosing decisions based on shattering every illusion.
most people are not. they are making decisions based on thier enemy not max dps. max dps dosent always = winning.
and its hard to get a chrono build that shatters well without being squishy. so the people who are making you think chrono is op are most likely just better players since it isnt as forgiving as a pu build or inspiration build.
ehh its frustrating vs 1 target i guess. but wvw is a blob of people tab targeting and slowing 1 of them wont amount to much.. unless you go to wvw to duel which seems like a waste of time.
waiting and running around to fight 1v1 every 10/15 mins.. instead of going to pvp server and being able to grind fights as often as you want.
everyone likes slow spam better than quickness? if you can beat your enemy in a fight normally you want to kill them quicker with your traits.. not just have them kill you slower.
im kinda liking quickness res/stomp/mantra recharge/heal even.
slow=good.. but promotes lame game play to keep it up..
not lame meaning op.. lame meaning zzzzzzzzzzzz
greatsword+fury= infinite slow just with 1 spam on a target. seems like it may get changed.
3 seconds of quickness + chronomancer trait (every 3 crits = 2s slow) + gs aa. seems ok for a interupt build. constantly slowing your enemy making easy interupt on any skill.
We are the all singing, all dancing, crap of the world.
What is the origin of the llama thing. I remember llama mounts in Ultima online 15 years ago. But i doubt that was the start.
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i know i have trouble hitting windows to get into clock tower.. which is odd.
You can overstate how unskilled my enemy is to try and drive your point home. Or you can realize that you do not know how skilled my enemy is and not make statements with very little info to keep them accurate.
Lots of people deserve to die.
Ya. I dont think mesmers could handle a buff after the big torment fiasco.
But it would be very exciting to free up DE and open so many spec options.
Same thing for alot of classes who are almost stuck in one trait line for every spec.
ya. i like adding ways to produce clones..
Clone on weapon swap
create clone when you are disabled.. clone takes the disable. or crippled.. w/e works with balance. (wouldnt produce enough to come close to replacing de.. but maybe combined with other things)
Create clone when you shatter.. so you start with 1.
Clone producing skills produce 2 instead.
w/e works.
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The spec i listed above is almost exactly like a phantasm condi spec but it has a little more punishing dazes.. So without MTD it will still kill people and with DE it still kills people. I just traded bountiful interuption for MTD. At this point after playing it for 2 nights im still not sure what trait comes out on top since it is usually a damage loss to shatter iduelests.
The main issue with peoples specs is that they think shattering is where their killing damage should come from. You arent killing anything spawing 3 staff clones and shattering them on a guy.. but you can kill by putting 20 stacks of bleed then putting some torment on top.
The fact that people still think staff is a good condi weapon may be the other problem.
Staff condi works the same way PU does.. It is more of an idiot test then it is a effective weapon. If your enemy gets burned down by standing in staff clone auto attack long enough.. they may deserve to die.
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