Guild Wars 2

Fhynix.2105:

- some of these skills can even be traited so they are automatically thrown in below a certain threshold (Elixir S, Endure Pain)

This is the main reason for your frustrations.

I have no problem with invul skills that requires a keypress. It rewards active playstyle, good timing, good prediction/judgemental play. On the other hand, the “auto-immune” skills feel very unrewarding to play against. Instead of “my fast reaction wins me the match”, it becomes “oh thank god the auto immune kicks in and I win”.

ANet should remove/rework the “activate immune on threshold” skills.

Original post:

Maybe a full set puts out a dim glow? Battle stance shoots out a burst effect similar to The Ascension?
It’s a Legendary armor after all. It can’t just.. be there. People should feel and look proud while wearing it. Instead, we forget that we have it on sometimes.

The flip flop is real.

Saiyan.1704:

Grimheart.2853:

Devs made it clear they’re not doing another pack of legendary armor skins any time soon. And any time soon in this case means probably never.

That’s not exactly what we’re asking for.

See the below picture link. Each yellow circle around our division represent a PvP Legendary Piece that we have made (not necessarily something we need to wear for this to show). Five armor pieces and The Ascension. Very minimal, simplistic, and it gets straight to the point. This is something i’m fine with.

https://ibb.co/jyx2KF

In the OP, asked for legendary effects. When being confronted, flip flop to “No I wanted a different division icon.”

In anycase, I’d rather them spend more time on real features instead of wasting time on this. For example:

• Fix Aura visual so it’s easier to tell
• Red outlines on targeted enemy
• PTR for PvP patches
• Monthly balance patches

These entitlement posts are tiresome. If you want those, play PvE. It’s already great that we have cheap/accessible legendary armors in PvP/WvW.

There is no way a vanilla Ele can beat a decent Tempest. You just don’t have enough dps.

This is how Retaliation should works:

1) Slowly increase damage over time as long as the boon is still on. Each second gain ~200 damage. To a cap of 2000 damage.
2) When you get hit, deal that damage to the attacker, and reset the “stored” damage to 0

Pros:

• PvE: you can store a good amount of damage (2000) in case you get hit once by a mob. There is no pressure to shove your face out and get hit constantly to maximize Retaliation
• PvP/WvW: group Retaliation is not too strong anymore since the damage resets.

Best of both world. Numbers can be tweaked as needed.

There is a purchasable repair kit. It’s on Black Lion Market. It’s pointless to ask ANet to do something if it reduces their revenue.

/thread

If you want the PvE skins, do PvE.

Robban.1256:

Sunshine.5014:

Retaliation is too strong in PvP/WvW, and too weak in PvE.

They should make it so that Retaliation only affects melee attacks, and increase its damage a bit. Something like 1s internal cooldown is also good.

PVE:At level 80, retaliation deals damage according to this formula:
200 + (0.075 * Power)

In PvP and WvW, retaliation damage is reduced by 33.33% and calculated with this formula:

133 + (0.05 * Power)

Right, for PvE, you mob hits you once every 3 seconds. Good luck getting hit twice before the book wears off. And even then, it deals 350 damage.

For WvW, one Meteor Shower on a Zerg with retaliation can get you down even after you use your heal skill.

They need to increase retaliation damage in PvE and add a 1s cool down to PvP/WvW.

Retaliation is too strong in PvP/WvW, and too weak in PvE.

They should make it so that Retaliation only affects melee attacks, and increase its damage a bit. Something like 1s internal cooldown is also good.

Condi has higher “effective” dps due to not having to rely on the dumbness of the opponents to deal damage via skills like Lava Font/Meteor Shower.

People will keep citing the fact that Ele has the highest DPS on dumb targets whenever anyone brings the “Ele is weak” topic up. So it’s not gonna change anytime soon.

Yes, with all the particles effects flying around, it’s very hard to see the target anymore. The Ted outline will help restore the sanity to the players and allow us to see what’s going on.

Hi, with the amount of visual noises added to the game (and more to come with PoF), we desperately need red outlines on targeted enemy

Like this:
https://www.diablowiki.net/images/2/2c/Red-target-outline5.png

Thoughts?

There was no change that I’m aware of.

Lahmia.2193:

Sunshine.5014:

I’d love to see Celestial get true all stats.

Would you mind if they reduced the other stats to make room for concentration and expertise?

Definitely. Reduce the number and make sure it has true all stats.

I’d love to see Celestial get true all stats.

PvE I run Berserker. WvW I either run Berserker or Minstrels depends on the size of the Zerg.

Since we already have the tech to create a Demo character running a newer patch, can we keep a PTR running so we can help test the new patch before it releases? Just let the user create a new demo character a week before each patch, and people will help providing feedback, especially for balancing.

Thanks!

For leveling, it’s staff Ele with Fire/Water/Arcane with Berserker gears. Just camp fire and keep a distance. Use mostly fire 1/2/3 and 5 if it’s a big mob and you have people to tank for you.

The point is to kill mob before it touches you. Also, Ele is very gear dependent, upgrade your gears to full Rares every 10 levels.

The solution is simple. Nerf water condi cleanse and add condi cleanse to other line.

Here is a guide posted a long time ago but is still valid

https://youtu.be/Hh5zjK7ITpQ

I have 5 sets for my Ele. They are all from drops except the first set. You don’t need ascended though. I raided/wvw before with just exotics. Play long enough and ascended will just rain from the sky. They filled up multiple tabs in my bank.

TL;DR: so far, the pro-ban side argued justice should be served properly, or else it’s a joke. The pro-violators side argued the ends justify the means. And since ignoring this makes more money for ANet, it’s fine.

Current:

• Creates 2 conjures, one in hand, one on the ground. Last 30s, with 60s cool down.

Should be:

• Create 1 conjure on the hand, last 20s, cool down 20s, store 2 charges.
• Conjure can be dropped and pickup again once.

This has the same up time as the original design (100% up time). This also allows the Ele to share a conjure with friend (by dropping it). At the same time, it’s a lot less clunky than the current design.

People don’t use conjures not because it’s weak, but because it’s extremely clunky.

It’s only when you got hit. And it has 1s cool down. If the necro only put the condition on you and walk away, the condition won’t get cleansed. Diamond Skin is not good without going pure tank. Water traits is mandatory.

It’s funny how the majority of the threads never have a visit from a Dev. But when a “permanently Dishonored” player shows up asking for a statue, they got 2 devs replied right away…

• Sword #2 range should be 600.
• Sword Earth #2 should be able to cast while moving
• Sword AA final hit should be max 1/2s
• Stone resonance should remove a condition per pulse
• Reduce Weaver global attunement cool down to 2.5s to be on par with core Ele.
• Nerf Primordial Stance damage. No one utility skill should be the main burst for the whole build. That’s OP.
• Remove the lock-in-one-place cast requirements for elite and skills. The class is clunky because of those.

Right now Water is a must have line because it has the most reliable condi cleanse traits inside. It limits build diversity a lot. I think we should spread out the condition cleanse to other line so we can have more build diversity.

I think it should be like this:

• Fire: cleanse when received burning
• Air: cleanse every 1s on superspeed (that trait belongs here, not on Weaver)
• Earth: cleanse on hit above 75%, every 0.5s
• Water: cleanse on Regen
• Arcana: cleanse on attunements
• Tempest: cleanse 2 on starting an Overload (only once)
• Weaver: cleanse on gaining a barrier

Then we tune down Ele ability to gain more Regen (which basically means condition cleanse in the old system). For example, remove Regen on aura on Tempest.

This enable builds like Fire/water/Arcana. Or Fire/Air/Arcana. A lot of possibilities there.

Thoughts?

Zaxares.5419:

Sunshine.5014:

insanemaniac.2456:

new victory screen encourages bad manners. it should encourage humility in victory and perseverance in defeat, but the stupid dances and fireworks encourage the victors to rub it in and the losers to leave. and now its anet sanctioned, where before corpse jumping and teabagging were only at a players discretion.

Right, Olympics should also remove the award ceremonies to protect the sore losers feeling, right?

I don’t really mind the Victory screen one way or the other, but perhaps a compromise then? Keep the Victory screen, but remove the corpses of the losing team from it, so you just see the winning team standing on their pedestals.

Yah, the corpses are unnecessary. Also, if they can slow down the time at the end like overwatch, it would be great.

At the same time, I’d rather them spend more time on balancing that on this. If balance is great, people will automatically accept the victory screen and be less salty.

insanemaniac.2456:

new victory screen encourages bad manners. it should encourage humility in victory and perseverance in defeat, but the stupid dances and fireworks encourage the victors to rub it in and the losers to leave. and now its anet sanctioned, where before corpse jumping and teabagging were only at a players discretion.

Right, Olympics should also remove the award ceremonies to protect the sore losers feeling, right?

I think they should flip Unravel Hexes:

• Currently: remove non-damaging conditions
• Should be: remove damaging conditions

I don’t even want to ask for a big buff to remove all conditions. I just want it to remove the damaging conditions.

With that change, this build will lose about 20% damage (losing a lot ferocity and raw damage buff since we will switch grandmaster trait), but then we gain a way to deal with conditions somewhat. That’s a fair trade off.

Xunleashed.5271:

Jski.6180:

Added though:
Stone Resonance should clear one condi ever Pulses. This will fill the lack of any real condi clear on the weave elite spec.

This will be nice to have but will not fill the requirement, not even close. The frequent condition application and the condition bursts in PvP/WvW require fast and frequent removals. A long cd skill with slow cleansing ticks doesn’t fix it.

I think you’re asking for too much. I think a cleanse per pulse is balanced. Not too weak and not too strong.

Nah, victory screen is great. We need a bit more flair (like fireworks and stuffs), but it’s good nonetheless.

Did the same thing but with scepter and arcane shield instead. I died extremely fast to condi bomb though. The range helps a bit, but still, it’s best to just run away from necro. Immune Spellbreakers can give you some trouble when they pops immunes, but running away and come back works. One interesting case I didn’t expect to be a good counter is P/P power thief. They hit Unload for 2k each, constantly. If you got caught off guard it’s GG.

I still hope the global cooldown is 2.5s so it’s on par with core Ele, which can switch through attunements in 10s.

I’m surprised no one pointed out that the math from Skolops is wrong, even after I posted the Google link.

https://www.google.com/search?q=(3332*.745*1.613%2B3332*.255)*1.175

• Holosmith/Scourge too much damage
• Deadeye can kite and never die, but won’t be able to hold point. People will say it’s trash in conquest, but it can be deadly in other game mode.
• Weaver is too too high risk but not enough reward. Melee weapon with lower dps than range.
• Spellbreaker has too many immunes. You can kill it with kiting, but it’s not fun to fight against

As I said in another thread, in core Ele you can swap to all the attunements in 10s, spending 2.5s in each. For Weaver, you have to spend 4s in each attunement, for a 16s total.

Just make the global cooldown 2.5s to be on par with core Ele. I don’t need a buff, I just want it to be on par with core Ele.

Instead of asking for a removal of GCD (which will never happen), we should ask for a 2.5s GCD instead of 4s. Core Ele can rotate through all 4 attunements in 10s. Weaver doesn’t need to be an upgrade, it should just allow Ele to weave all the attunements in 10s.

For core Ele, you can rotate through all the attunements in 10s, spending 2.5s in each. For Weaver, you need to spend 4s each, for a total of 16s. If ANet doesn’t want to remove the global cooldown, we should at least reduce the global cooldown to 2.5s to be on pair with core Ele.

I’m not asking for Weaver to be an upgrade over core Ele, I just want it to be on par with core Ele.

Same thing with Barrier values. Core Ele can swap to water and heal for a lot more than the barrier dual skills provide. It doesn’t require skill casting. It’s instant. It’s raw heal that doesn’t decay! Like, barrier value should be higher than raw heal for the reason that it decays. Again, I’m not asking for an upgrade, I just want it to be on par with core Ele.

And sword damage, at least makes it as strong as Dagger and reduce the cast time. Like, what’s the reason to sacrifice range, put yourself into risky position, and have worse damage? The rewards should be proportional of the risk.

Thanks!

Would any mod please help moving this thread to this forum?
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2

Conditions is everywhere in PvE too, and I think it’s a great change that will make a lot of users happy.

Jhoul.6923:

Is another nerf even pasible? What do we have that is soooo grand?

Is the next step taking away attunements or making CD from 1-5 to not be independent from the different attunements?

They should nerf Meteors Shower.

After that, there is nothing for Ele anymore. No place in raid. No place in wvw. Already have no place in PvP.

People don’t recognize that it is Meteors Shower that carries this class. Without it, Ele shows the true form of a bottom tier class. Until the day Meteors Shower is nerfed, Ele won’t get a proper balance since the devs will just point to the DPS and say Ele is fine.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Balance-Changes-Upcoming

Why are you posting PvE balance changes in a pvp forum?

New leak* balance patch notes.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/Elementalist-rework-Patchnotes/first#post6344708

*see signature

Hooglese.4860:

Because the game is not designed for duels, it’s designed for 5v5s. If it was designed around dueling we wouldn’t have conquest. We’d have team death match.

This myth about “it’s designed for 5v5” still persists.

95% of all the fights in this game are 3v3, 2v2, and 1v1. Back cap and 1v1 on point happens a lot more frequently than 10 noobs clashing in mid disregarding the other 2 points and map objectives.

Please stop repeating that myth.

• Capture point starts big, around 420
• Whenever a fight happen around the point, it gradually becomes smaller over 20s
• Min radius is about 180
• When no fight is happening, gradually becomes bigger over 20s

All numbers can be tweaked based on data.
P.S: take a look at my other suggestions in the signature.

Chasind.3128:

They are in a crappy place pvp wise, why not keep kicking them while they’re down? How about get your head out of your kitten and stop calling for nerfs and instead buff other classes. Anerf has left a sour taste in my mouth- no wonder why gw2 has the most complaining player base because you can’t recognize when other things need a buff or tweaking, instead you call nerf. So sick of this player base

The first reply got it. You don’t get it. Now switch off your fire attunement and stop putting Lavafont on your head; I can see smoke coming off there. A lot.

A lot of people cited Meteor Shower as why Ele is OP. As in “Ele top PvE/WvW DPS”.

They used it as a way to justify Ele nerfs, and prevent Ele buffs, like “Ele is still the top pick for PvE/WvW”

We should nerf Meteor Shower, so that there is no more reason to justify Ele OP. After that, wait a year, and ANet will fix the rest of the useless skills.

TheNickPrice.8457:

Uhmm support ele was and still is way more then boonshare and in fact is the best support for the “condi” meta.
…
Tempest support helps with condi meta 10 fold to what guard or druid can do

So even after they removed Cleric, Ele is still only good at being a healbot?

Xillllix.3485:

Sunshine.5014:

(especially when the balance lead couldn’t even solo Svanir on a HoT Ele)

That epic moment when a dev is unable to play the spec he designed:
https://youtu.be/sIQNnE6LyX4?t=39m57s

He dies 35 seconds in the fight but the dev cheats keep him alive.
————

In comparison to another dev playing a class he didn’t design:
https://youtu.be/Ypl3N-lQsNg?t=31m18s

Fight is barely 8 seconds and the guardian is invul the whole time.

Look at that! Balance at it’s finest.

The guardian didn’t even lose HP, while pressing like 5x fewer keys. Why can’t the balance team just look at that and realize how messed up their balance is? Fighting Svanir is PvE, so now you can balance that too! Please.

I gave up hope for the day Ele can fight Svanir with the same effort other classes spent on him.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

SneakyTouchy.6043:

Why would they alternate back and forth after 3 games? That’s a lot of pip loss. That’s 6 games for every 2 pips net gain each side, 90 games total. If they allowed one team to blow from the bottom of ruby all the way to diamond, that’s 15 games. They’d use the safety barrier of diamond to boost the other team. That’s 30 games total, no pip loss. Not only that, since the games are rigged, they’d probably blow through them very quickly and finish at least one division per night.

They should probably cut it from ranked if only exploiters are using it.

hmmm you are right, but how will the diamond team vs the ruby team after wards ?

You talk like there is any 5 queues for SH.