Guild Wars 2

I still roam occasionally with my friend. We usually go deep in the enemy lines and try to capture supply camps. We have been playing duo thief most of the time, to avoid uneven fights, but we still engage on all 2v2 or 2v3 fights. They are extremely rarely nowadays though. Most of the time we spend running away, before one of us becomes bored and we switch to another game.

Horrible skill lag to the point it’s unplayable. Can’t land a single skill that’s not targeted, enemies seem to be on mini perma quickness…
Guess i’ll have to stop playing gw2 then. If you want your customers to stop playing, then good job, why not increase the map cap again.

I’ve always thought +-40% condi duration food is overpowered. Glad somebody else noticed it as well.

Played the witcher 3

Soloed grub once, it was before patch and it took me like 15 minutes on my condi thief.

Aomine.5012:

LOL, did you ever press dodge to begin with?
How on Earth can you get hit by Barrage 9 times? That’d require you to stand inside it doing nothing for 9 seconds.

I’m quite sure there were at least two barrages throughout that fight.
And before you QQ about the fight lasting long enough for two barrages to be fired, take a look at the new ranger traits.

Saiyan.1704:

Still trying to figure out what the first screenshot is saying.

Tseikk.9032:

For those who can’t/don’t want to see the screenshots, it’s about rampage and burning.

Use your brains to figure out which was about rampage and which about burning, since you clearly didn’t use them when you read through my post.

@Aggrostemma
And you think the only thing the enemies did during the whole fight was apply burning to me without doing any other damage?
@Capito The thing is i was not running a glass spec, but a very high toughness spec. Thieves did nothing to me at all. Rampage still hit like a truck.

@Sekai.2987 I play every class, and my opinions of balance are not based on what is bad for “my” class.
(unlike of some people that i’m not going to name here.)

@ellesee.8297 My warrior had a base hp of 28,212, and, as i said, i was decked out with defensive traits and utilities that allowed me to heal or avoid damage. Besides, what part of warrior sustain would you like to nerf? Because i didn’t use the all-hated healing signet, but the “to the limit!” shout.

@Pepsi.8907 That might be true. Do you think burning is not overtuned?

Both were taken while running a PVT warrior with melandru runes, energy/renewal/leeching/doom sigils and defensive utilities and traits, meaning i was significantly tanky.

http://i.imgur.com/27JIfTB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ffOevo5.jpg

There might be more really good specs (not saying overpowered, since these things do have their counters) but I still think these could use a bit tuning down.
For those who can’t/don’t want to see the screenshots, it’s about rampage and burning.

Arantheal.7396:

Call in your Zerg & clear the place out.

:))))
map chat/TS: "Guys there’s like 3 people having duels just outside SM south wall, pls come and kill them with your likely 25-35 people! Forget defending that tower, the duelers are much more of a threat! Besides the duelers definitely will not simply walk back after you’ve “cleared the place out”!"

Coyote.7031:

AmberUK.5380:

Free transfer is just going to kill these severs quicker…

Maybe it’ll convince Anet to do something.

And this is exactly why they won’t enable free transfers.

Jski.6180:

New super class for each class.

Not a super class, a specialization. Atleast specializations SHOULD be in line balance wise in terms of strength.

edit: @OP you should not pre order it, wait it out and see for example youtube videos of it and then decide to buy it or not. Maybe it’ll be on sale too after you’ve done the thinking.

When I read the title I thought that you meant how people just don’t play anymore lol

Looks like they are just bored as hell.

Do we have a specialist yet?

I think he’s talking about the new guardian specialization.

This looks so lovely, stealth (with trapper runes), leap, long range and a skill almost made to counter longbow rangers. Perfect for wvw

balance wise it’s better to atleast keep the cap where it is, if not lower it even more. If you don’t like being stuck in a que, how about transfering away from your overstacked server? There are still servers that can barely fill a single map on prime time.

Lag wise it’s even better – i have noticed barely any lag after the cap got lowered.

I think lowering the map cap is a win-win situation.

Hell no. I even get bored of different builds quickly, and am usually broke because i spend all my gold in buying new gear for one of my 10 level 80’s

style.6173:

coglin.1867:

It isn’t universally hated by any means in my opinion. Personally, I am all for it. In my opinion, the folks that dislike it, have created their own idea on how to do things, and chose to speak negatively about out of the personal bias of their subjective opinion.

Correct. Open field is not universally hated. There are plenty of people who have no fighting skills and siege is the best way for them to enjoy the game.

hahaha this!! ^

coglin.1867:

Tseikk.9032:

coglin.1867:

Did they suggest somewhere at some time that EotM was supposed to be balanced?

I’m so tired of that excuse. “hurr durr it’s not meant to be balanced” is an extremely lazy way of saying “I didn’t have the time/motivation to make it balanced”. How about instead of just ignoring everyone who thinks eotm is unbalanced maybe put a few work hours to it and make eotm fun for the other two colours too.

Oh whoops, i forgot. Transfers are the only way anet makes money through wvw. And sfr definitely needs more people!

Excuse? I am not entirely certain you know what that means here then. When they state it multiple times before release of the game, it isn’t even remotely an excuse. It is called by design.

I am more then willing to read your very detailed explanation of how you could reasonably design large scale combat on an individual bases in a way that every player agrees is balanced. Please, bless us with this wisdom.

I mean i think it was even before the release a very dumb idea to make wvw unbalanced on purpose, and also think that it was just a bad excuse to not put resources in wvw. How it’s still applied to new maps and in even bigger scale is simply disgusting, it’s as if there was a maximum of two people working on wvw.

Didn’t we have a CDI about unbalanced server populations? (I barely remember it, could it be because nothing happened after it?) We had some fantastic ideas that could and would work very well, i would find the thread for you if the search function wasn’t such a pile of cr*p. Feel free to scram through the 600+ pages of threads, if you find the server population discussion you’ll have that much wisdom you don’t need to beg it from me anymore.

coglin.1867:

Did they suggest somewhere at some time that EotM was supposed to be balanced?

I’m so tired of that excuse. “hurr durr it’s not meant to be balanced” is an extremely lazy way of saying “I didn’t have the time/motivation to make it balanced”. How about instead of just ignoring everyone who thinks eotm is unbalanced maybe put a few work hours to it and make eotm fun for the other two colours too.

Oh whoops, i forgot. Transfers are the only way anet makes money through wvw. And sfr definitely needs more people!

What Dawdler said. Condi thief + power thief is probadly the most efficient pair.

Deniara Devious.3948:

aspirine.6852:

Piken is going up in the ranks and you might end up in higher tiers again.

Indeed. Piken’s current rank is 6 and predicted rating is going up. Piken is mostly likely going to be matched up with EU rank 1-10 in next match ups. The rating differences in EU are so small that all this match ups are probable.

As an enemy, I haven’t seen much roamers on Piken, but more like something which can be classified as zone blob (30-50+ Piken in one blob). Despite Desolation’s higher rank, I have been enjoying the outnumbered “buff” more than half of the time, still flipping more than our share of the map. I am not complaining, just stating an observed fact. But each player can have different experience, depending on map and time played.

I on the other hand have been surprised on how few players you have online. Last time i remember fighting against deso you had much more players.
We also tend to have more people online if we “have a chance” in the matchup or if it’s a close one. Better fights if one side isn’t completely stomping the other.

Aberrant.6749:

Tseikk.9032:

Or just nerf the ridiculously strong +-40% condi duration foods…

Cond duration in WvW being complained about? Wat?

As if there isn’t already enough aoe cond cleansing going on to make them almost a non-issue outside of very small scale roaming as is?

As if people can’t swap to -40% cond duration food whenever they come across a lot of conds and use power food otherwise? It’s not like you can’t use food while you’re in combat.

L2P issue.

+40% condi duration food:

-Stronger than spending 30 points to a traitline
-In compared to food that grants duration to specific conditions (burning, chill, poison) more than twice as effective for those specific conditions, but also affects other conditions as well. Hurts the food diversity. (tell me the last time you’ve seen a condi build run, say, http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bowl_of_Fire_Meat_Chili)
-Giver’s weapons main stat is condition duration, meaning having this food equals you having the main stat of 4 one handed weapons or two 2 handed weapons, aka around +360 stats. Oh and you still get +70 condition damage on top of that.
-Promotes passive play
-Forces you to use the opposite food or you’re at huge disadvantage.

-40% condi duration food:

-Combined with certain runes and traits, you can be immune to soft cc if the target placing that on you has no condi duration (Hint hint, he has to use the opposing food…)
-Completely shuts down condition builds if they aren’t running +40%
-Promotes passive play as well

In the end these foods are just a massive gold sink and are one of the main reasons wvw rewards seem so small. You just can’t stay competitive if the enemy has such a huge advantage over you, so you’ll have to counter his food with your own.

Also, a l2p issue? How? I’m exploiting this food system as well, why wouldn’t I? My engineer gets half his condi duration from food, lol. And he has 100% condi duration! Come and tell me that’s freaking balanced! Half of my potential damage comes from food!
On my warrior I enjoy having soft cc immunity. I don’t even have to slot any condi cleanses, my melandru/food/dogged march is just enough.

Redg.9807:

Tseikk.9032:

Go to augury rock, so that i can fight you
Good roamers to fight are getting rarer and rarer

I liked that one :<
On what server are you playing btw ?

i’m on piken square

Or just nerf the ridiculously strong +-40% condi duration foods…

Go to augury rock, so that i can fight you
Good roamers to fight are getting rarer and rarer

What has happened to him? I’m quite sure he hasn’t replied to any threads for over a month

One Prarie Outpost.4860:

Poor everlasting stability melee toons got their security blankey taken away and need a pacifier now…

Yeah well, the MELEE characters kind of needed the stability to, you know, stay in melee range.
Enjoy the pirate ship meta.

Nike.2631:

I bet you the WvW devs just sit and laugh every time they hear that using stability is skillful and using CC is mindless…

there are no wvw devs.

NiloyBardhan.9170:

ACs are perfectly fine. What do you think an outnumbered server should use when defending a keep/tower against 3-4 times people than their own? Siege weapons are supposed to be used to one’s advantage and its not like there aren’t any counters. Eles’ AoEs can down an AC, a well placed ballista is a good counter, etc

lol

Sinbold.8723:

It used to be that deployed sites were invulnerable for about 90 seconds or so.

No it didn’t.

Piken square, maybe gunnar’s hold

Oh look, someone attempted the create a nerf thief thread -daily. It’s in the wrong place though, no achievement points for you OP.
Nothing to see here, move along.

Turk.5460:

Tseikk.9032:

I agree with the OP. I want to fight other players, not walls or doors.

That’s what sPvP is for. WvW =/= PvP, sorry.

PvP gear choices suck. Much less ways to customize and fine-tune your builds.
Also only certain specs even work there. Cele engi/ele make most builds useless, and the gameplay is stale and boring. Two years of capture point would make anybody bored, for me only a couple hours a month is enough.

I hope you’re not one of those guys who run around EotM thinking it’s wvw?¨

edit: my post looks much more offensive than i intended it to be. It’s just that i saw another post of yours on a thread, and you were asking what PPT is. I thought if you’re new to wvw you might just have played EotM with a fight-avoiding commander who only wants to karma train, thinking this is how wvw is everywhere and is supposed to be.

You made it up, but it’s a kitten good suggestion anyways.

I agree with the OP. I want to fight other players, not walls or doors.

lordkrall.7241:

Wouldn’t the most serious player be in WvW at all times and thus not go to PvE to get their hard earned gold?

No, because the most serious wvw player wants to have food buffs to have better chances of beating their opponents. Food buffs are very expensive and the minimal loot you get from wvw isn’t enough. Not even mentioning siege or upgrades

Just to add to the topic:
Balanced matchups motivate people to play! As you can see we have queues for EVERY MAP even at monday, because players feel like it’s more fun to play if you have a chance to win! Against gandara or other matchups like that we barely ever even had ques.

best roamers come from piken

;)

Thank you Marmatt for choosing to report of unbalanced matchups. It’s by far the most important problem of WvW in my opinion.

TyPin.9860:

Maybe even all NPCs can get a sort of downed state. Would make camp flipping with smaller groups or solo certainly more interesting.

Sometimes i’m glad ANet doesn’t listen to suggestions.

Ele elites are mostly bad. My ele’s human simply because of Reaper of Grenth.

WvW achievements is the least of our problems lol. As many players have already pointed out poor rewards, coverage and unbalanced matchups are serious problems that need addressing.
Also don’t let the toxic ones of this forum flatten you, it just happens to be so that there are a lot of them here. Maybe because we’ve been ignored for so long.

Being able to kill dolyaks while they’re being defended is one of the only things you are actually able to do if the enemy’s group is bigger. In a game where you can stack on certain servers to receive advantages revivable dolyaks is not a “like it should be” thing in my opinion.
I think it would be a good change to implement the idea like Tom Gore suggested (so that you can stomp the dolyak), add back PPK and remove white swords from supply camps and normal towers. And maybe make it so that you can see white swords everywhere if you have the outnumbered buff.

Prysin.8542:

Tseikk.9032:

Before making up new ideas for WvW, remember that they should NOT favor the server with more population! This is another idea that would just make the higher population servers stronger and smaller population servers weaker!

So, until ANet fixes population unbalances i say
HELL NO!

I think even low pop server got a thief or warrior to spare to run caravans from time to time.

This would actually favor the smaller servers as they usually struggle to secure supplies vs bigger servers. Bigger servers are also, from my experience, more prone to zerg then roam or escort, they consist modtly of pugs with no interest in server performance. If these pugs get a harder time shutting down supplies, their sheer size will be less of a problem.

This change greatly help servers which are outmanned, as even ONE players initiative can have a much greater effect on the game.

A single player will have less impact if they can’t kill dolyaks anymore.

Yeah well, we haven’t gotten a lot of attention. As some guy said there are countless threads where the most clear problems are already stated.

What i think we need right now is more communication. There’s barely ever a red post, i doubt anet even reads this forum. Send them a request to prove us they do listen to us, better communication with us would be a great start to improve wvw!

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