Guild Wars 2

Ision.3207:

Let’s wait and see folks —-

For example, Torment, I really doubt they are just going to add this new condition to certain Mesmer and Thief skills/utilities without a trade-off of them losing out on other skills they have. (Now if they do indeed add Torment, without a trade-off, then they are totally NUTS – lol).

Well I think that is what everyone is afraid of giving Anets past moves. None of the supposed “nerfs” to thieves and to an extent mesmers has made them any less deadly.

Vyxion.6358:

It fits the thief because it is a shadow condition. Who else than a necro or thief would this fit? No idea why people complain it doesn’t fit the thief when this is the primary shadow-themed class in the game. I’m surprised the mesmer gets it too, doesn’t really fit with their light reflection theme and light fields etc but I suppose they indeed did need an extra condition.

Just like thieves need more conditions to make condi thief viable. Currently all a condi thief does is stack bleeds and this is simply not viable neither in pve nor pvp. This torment might change some things but I’m not judging till I see patchnotes AND play.

And please don’t complain about backstab thieves or acro sword thieves now becoming OP with torment. Makes you look silly because those are powerbuilds while torment is a condition. Let that sink in for a minute

Nothing you just said makes any sense. Sure if the condition was purely cosmetic lol. But the last part is just out of touch with reality…guessing you play a thief. Thief and mesmers are already the best class 1v1…tie even more damage to them just for moving doesn’t make sense.

TooBz.3065:

Before everyone QQs too much about mesmers and thieves, there is still a distinct possibility that the OP builds will get nerfed to the ground.

Some the torment condition on mesmers (at least) makes sense because they are 1. one or the two second slowest classes and 2. have no real conditions since confusion was nerfed.

I don’t think they will nerf anything. The way I read it is that Anet wants to entice thieves/mesmers into trying conditions builds. This game will be broken though if those two classes get access to torment without having to sacrifice anything.

This is walking on thin ice here, I hope Anet really thinks this through.

Wow. Speaking WvW/PvP wise…this does not make any sense whatsoever. Thieves and Mesmers are already the deadliest 1v1, imo, and now they have access to torment? Are they planning on nerfing some of their other abilities before they add this condition?

Calae.1738:

Orr isn’t even difficult. I’d like it to be much harder. Arena net has a hard time adjusting risk vs reward. Increasing difficulty without rewards will be a guaranteed failure.

They can only make it so hard before the “Holy Trinity” is needed. Making it to difficult without the trinity will drive people away even if there are higher rewards. So a careful balance is needed.

Orr isn’t that difficult (DE’s), it’s true, but there is still a challenge (people who do not do them will disagree), especially when the champs/certain vets start to spawn, it is nice to see people actually being downed and/or killed. Champs could hit a little harder making players use more of their utilities to properly counter their certain mechanics.

Temples are a nice challenge as they are now. I see them fail more than they succeed right now.

Oh great…now we are gonna get those annoying people spamming the highest pitch over and over and over and over til I just have to leave the area lol.

Anet can we get spam suppression on that please? lol.

I used to farm the pent/shelter/jofast rotation, before Anet hired Mark McGwire to beat it with a nerf bat.

I had a MF(170+% MF total) set and my PvE set..always used omnom bars and guild banners. I would switch between the two and didn’t really notice anything different. I seemed i did better with my PvE set with just a omnom bar…

Oh I hope with all my heart they bring back Orr to the days of old…like I said in another thread, a friend of mine got to 80 before I did at launch and he told me of this place where there was non-stop events and how much of a rush it was..made me want to lvl to 80 as fast as I could..never left once I got there..

Dear Anet…please bring back Orr.

IndigoSundown.5419:

The farming nerf has affected me, along with the promotion of events to “more interesting” status. I once would run around CS and ML, harvesting and doing most every event I ran across. I found this fun. Seems like I could almost always count on a Penitent, Jofast’s, or Shelter being up, along with many other events. Now, all I see are a few [Group Events] with no one in attendance. Much less fun.

I make only slightly less gold than I once did in Orr. However, I’m having a lot less fun there. It wasn’t a farming nerf to me, it was a fun nerf.

I feel a lot like this. A friend of mine got to 80 and started Orr before me…told me of this epic place where events where non-stop and how much of a rush it “was”…that made me want to lvl to 80 more than anything. Once I was there I hardly ever left except to do some WvW or PvP…man I miss those days.

Erasculio.2914:

Doing the same mindless task over and over, repeating something you don’t even enjoy, and that a bot could do better than a human being, isn’t exactly what I would call an “effort”. It’s eerily similar to making a donkey walk by placing a carrot in front of its face. But of course, that’s just a donkey – a mindless animal who doesn’t know better. A human being would never lower himself to that level… Would he?

Fo sho! But here is a good example of what a human is capable of lowering themselves to…LMAO…the irony…

Keep these coming man!

Erasculio.2914:

Monstrowhale.9156:

An unnecessary stab at people who do not share your vision of an RPG, perhaps?

Nope. A criticism on how players are responsible for some of the worst flaws in GW2.

I’m not going go to into how a farmer basically states that he’s no better than a Skinner rat. It wouldn’t bother me that much if it were just a matter of someone renouncing his humanity like that. It isn’t, though.

What farmers (and grinders, addicts and exploiters) have taught MMO developers is that there is no point in making a game fun. Fun is subjective – trying to make a given piece of content to be “fun” will, 100% of the time, result in something that some will like, and others will not. Making fun content is hard, too.

But do you know what is very easy do build? Grind. Just throw something players can kill over and over, give a shiny reward for it, and players will jump there. No need to actually work to make it interesting, farmers don’t care.

As a result, what updates do we get in Guild Wars 2? Improved storytelling? Better cinematics, like what we had seen in the original Guild Wars by the time of the BMP? Challenging content?

No, of course not. There is no point in any of that. Making repetitive, mindless content and throwing 200% Magic Find is enough to make farmers play until their fingers bleed. Who cares about good content? Grinders certainly do not.

MMORPGs won’t ever be great games, because the current community of MMORPG players don’t want great games – they want to revel in cesspools of grind.

Always so bitter, I think someone needs a big hug! Come here you! /hug

Well it seems someone would like a game completely catered to themselves? Well I wish you the best of luck on convincing a developer to do so. Perhaps a Care Bears themed MMO? My Little Pony maybe? Didn’t they make those already? I don’t know but maybe its worth checking out for yourself…that is if they have zero crafting/dungeons/nodes of any type/other players/maps/boosts of any type/fun content etc etc etc…/sigh

It really seems like you have no real idea about what farmers do…have you even tried the Pent/Shelt events when more than 10 people are present? I invite you do those…“mindlessly”? I believe that’s how you put it…and I can guarantee you would not survive without actually paying attention once the champs and certain vets spawn…a lot harder then some dungeon paths…

Anyways always nice you read you hate filled bitter posts…look forward to the next…could always use a good laugh…

Unfortunately it has affected me a lot. Ever since those brutal nerfs to Orr and I have less and less found the need to log in and accomplish anything really…even stopped doing my dailies which I always did.

Everyone is after accomplishment and an end goal, regardless of what type of player you consider yourself…so any argument against farming is just BS and pointless…yes that’s right I said BS and pointless unless you have absolutely zero goals…well if that case it might not be BS or pointless would it?

It is sad.

CoF, nuf said….

Did anyone actually read OP’s post? Reading through some of these posts it seems like they read the title and posted a half thought out rant…some of you who posted seemed at least half intelligent in previous posts lol.

Mada.5319:

Yes, yes, please sell all your lodestones now so that I (and most likely the OP) can buy em all for dirt cheap then when this “overhaul” occurs and we realize nothing has really changed, we can sell for huge profit. kkthnx

Well lodestone are going to get easier to get, I would expect something along the lines of what they did for dust. So don’t say you were not warned when you get burned for buying up tons of lodestones.

Well you are SOL if you want to be a farmer right now, just in case you didn’t get the memo, Anet hates us farmers. Not nearly as profitable as it was before. Best bet for money now if farm chest events for rares to get ectos from or farm CoF p1.

Anet seems to think that most players will just so be like “oh, this is how you want me to play…ok”

randomfightfan.4091:

When people are posting like this, it gets a little too much to handle.

Bad players need a reason to feel good about themselves…I say let them be lol.

ilr.9675:

^WvW was always a messy Zergfest, especially in Beta.

Admittedly I have not played all MMO’s…but all the ones I have played…WvW, faction vs faction…bad vs good what ever you want to call it…has always been zerg v zerg…I have never understood and still don’t understand why people complain about that…

Fishbait.6723:

Ah well, Wild Star inc <fingers crossed>

Just like GW2, Wild Star is still NCSoft.

dbgamer.3407:

These used to drop onyx cores and sometimes lodestones – I just bought 250 of them and didn’t get a single one of either.

Is my luck really bad today? or were they nerfed?

Dude…those are like the rarest drop from bags…having a really hard time wondering why you are surprised.

Imaginos.3756:

MokahTGS.7850:

I just wanted to post my support for ANet adding the weapon skins for all events as a direct buy option in the Gem Store. I would buy them directly and think that you should add them to the shop just like you did for the Wintersday event skins.

The Jade skins are good enough to buy directly and I could see myself buy at least two of them, maybe even three.

I have no interest in RNG however. If you want my money, add things to the store.

If you agree, please post your support.

I completely agree. I’d pay 800 gems for a pack of all 19 weapons or 80 gems per weapon so I could double up on the ones I really want. I’d end up buying 8 of them or so

I won’t waste money on RNG boxes at all.

Really? 800 gems for all the skins? I hate this model as much as the next guy…but that would be absurd.

loquacious.2915:

Anet makes more money with people buying boxes than they would with people being able to directly buy the tickets.

So no. Not happening.

This! This is also why we don’t have a subscription.

DR in itself is broken…so, can what is broken be broken? It is the most absurd mechanic in gaming history(IMHO)…punishing a player for playing how they want to play?

Bots? I personally do not buy into that argument…they are easy enough to stop and people for the most part report them when they are spotted.

DR is just a system, along with the other horrible changes/nerfs, that are designed to control and manipulate the economy the way Anet/NCSoft see’s fit…it is not player driven like it is made out to be…just an illusion because they need to manipulate the perception of the average TP trader as well, assuming they are not Anet employees that is.

Perhaps it is a way to keep people from becoming to powerful? Maybe…but the rich seem to just keep getting richer and Anet will not impose any of the conditions they feel the average non-TP trader player deserves. Higher taxes for power traders?

But in short…Yes…I feel its broken lol.

pricer.5091:

Stone.6751:

In the past couple of months I’ve managed to bank over 200gold.

That may or may not be a lot for some people, but its more gold that I “need” for what I want in the game.

Good. I’m happy for you, but if you want a legendary you are about 1800g short. Irrespective of whether you buy it or craft it.

1800g short? Where did you get that number? Have you crafted a legendary?

So I guess all the recent changes were only aimed at, I play when I say this…farmer genocide? SS was not fun(to me) and the culling was worse than Orr.

Anet/NCSoft has essentially turned open world play(speaking of making gold only) to a giant CoF p1 farm. Everyone only going for globs and/or dust. Of course CoF p1 is WAY more profitable, so one could say….Anet only wants you to do CoF p1 or become a TP trader to make gold in an efficient way?

T6 mats are no longer farmable and upgrading T5 mats is simply not worth it.

I only bring up farming because if this particular “fix” was for dust…which is pretty much back at the price it was before the major Orr nerfs and globs are still trading at the price they were before the “fix”…

So I guess what I want to say…why not just roll back the dial a little bit in Orr to get the price of Dust back to what it was and give a little nob to the farmers who have felt a little….betrayed dare I say?

I have not yet completed my personal story but plan on doing it just so I can say I completed it.

Wondering what the possibilities would be to get credit for that part of the personal story if you have already done Arah SM before completing your personal story. Because I remember that being REALLY long.

Fernling.1729:

I have a feeling that people wouldn’t purchase any of the RNG items if we knew the odds.

I still would not buy them…wish they would just sell them directly in the gem store. The fact that they don’t says a lot about how they feel about the average gamer…hint: Its not nice…lol

Amria.2461:

I like it. Dust prices have plummeted, and I’ll be needing a lot of it. Though of course, if I had bought a bunch of dust just before this update, I wouldn’t be liking it as much. =P

Yeah, I regret not selling the 250 I had laying around for my legendary and just buying them again…oh well…these patches always favor the people who don’t have jobs anyways lol. Was at work when the patch launched anyways so wouldn’t have made a huge profit by the time I got home.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

Amun Ra.6435:

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

OK, just heard from a guildie, he got over 2 stacks in less then an hour, just running around doing the holos so apparently it is possible to do a lot better then 100 an hour.

Even if 200/hr was the norm…that would be a HUGE grind, beyond the legendary grind.

Not 200 an hour, 2 stacks. That’s 500 an hour.
It’s still a grind, but doable. I have no intention of doing it myself. After finally seeing the wings I find them ugly as sin and would not want them for free. I am getting a little tired of the crystal blue look, it’s been done to death in this game and needs to stop.

Not saying you are a liar…but I would have to see an hour long video of someone getting 500 in that time frame…of course then there is video editing…sooo lol.

kokocabana.8153:

This is about entitlement. I believe that the Dragon Festival in GW1 is an annual holiday, so why would this be any different?

Because, and I believe Anet would agree, this is not GW1!

Just to clarify…its 2000 T6 mats. The gifts of might/magic both require stacks of 250 of the eight different T6 mats…and a think most legendary weapons also require a stack of 250 T6 cloth/leather…

Now it sounds like a grind lol

Fenrir.3609:

Amun Ra.6435:

Fenrir.3609:

Vayne.8563:

Your perception of the reality of the situation and your attachment to something you can’t possibly know makes you wrong.

See how easy this game is. Anyone can play it.

No, just the reality of the situation.

It’s pretty clear that this has run it’s course. Anything from now is just post count bumping frankly.

Subtitles read: “I failed to make a valid argument so what anyone else has to say simply can not be valid.”

Do you actually have a point or a position of your own? Do you even grasp the positions other people are taking? Because at the moment, it doesn’t look at all like it.

My position is and always has been – the dust and general loot/Orr situation was broken and something needed/needs to be done about it.
That what has occurred and what was likely going to occur as well as ANET’s intervention point to that being the case.
That the change to dust from ectos is welcomed as is the notion of looking at loot/farming with an eye to improve it in future.
That whilst I would like to see Orr loot et al improved, at this point, any changes which make getting mats more readily (outside of RNG) is a good thing.
That just leaving Orr exactly as it is with all the nerfs, not making any changes at all to ectos and just leaving it as it is would not fix the situation.

You are arguing against the above? Cool, well let’s hear it then.

You want to “read” it again? Go right ahead…it’s a few posts back.

There is a thread specifically about the Orr nerfs I posted in…if you are really “Cool” with it, look it up.

Also, please don’t bump the thread.

Fenrir.3609:

Vayne.8563:

Your perception of the reality of the situation and your attachment to something you can’t possibly know makes you wrong.

See how easy this game is. Anyone can play it.

No, just the reality of the situation.

It’s pretty clear that this has run it’s course. Anything from now is just post count bumping frankly.

Subtitles read: “I failed to make a valid argument so what anyone else has to say simply can not be valid.”

Fenrir.3609:

Vayne.8563:

Your perception of the reality of the situation and your attachment to something you can’t possibly know makes you wrong.

See how easy this game is. Anyone can play it.

No, just the reality of the situation.

If you are going to stick to “omg no one could possibly ever see what was going to happens!” as a defense for a lamentably kitten poor position which everything that has actually transpired points against, then all the best to you.

O.o ? A deflector defects what?

I honestly could care less if someone leeches off of my kills, that’s just me though.

But Aney could add a system like SWTOR added. Healers were greatly being left out because they were healing and not DPS’ing and were not getting credit for kills in PvP/PvE….so they added a feature that if a “DPS’er” was being healed by the “Healer” while said “DPS’er” killed a enemy they both got credit.

Fenrir.3609:

ANET may indeed not want people to be “farming” in Orr (and that seems pretty obvious given the current situation), which is let’s face it, fair enough.

Fair to who? This these changes were very unfair to farmers, which have always been a big part of any MMO and who would have obviously gravitated to GW2. These changes were not merely meant to chase away “farmers”…it was to create a situation where the “average” player would be forced to buy gems to get what they wanted, this you can be sure of.

Fenrir.3609:

But it was as clear as day (to some of us at least), that given the situation we happened to be in, something had to be done to change it. Which is why they have had to step in in order to prevent the prices from continuing to rise, as well as to bring up the fact that there are going to be wholesale loot changes.

They had to step in? They intentionally created the situation!

Fenrir.3609:

The notion some had that people would just go back and farm Orr after Southsun and everything would be hunky dory without any changes, or others just spouting “economics 101, supply and demand dude!” was clearly completely and utterly wrong.

Please explain yourself? How was the notion wrong? I have to assume you know nothing about what you are talking about if you think people were waiting for a Orr fix. Farmers would be more than happy to return to Orr.

Fenrir.3609:

If ANET want to reduce “hardcore” farming or at least not make it so that zones (like Orr) are simply farm fests. Then good on them, so long as they bring in (non RNG/gem based) methods of getting hold of the items needed so that prices are at least relatively stable and supply is not totally ruined. The ecto salvage change and the talk of up and coming changes is a positive thing.

Let we wipe that off for you…you had a little brown on your nose. What do farmers have to do with “non RNG/gem based” items?

displacedTitan.6897:

Osi.3504:

Lil Green Dragn.8049:

I’d be more inclined to agree with you if you “needed” the jade weapons, but you don’t. It’s just a skin, and every few months, there’s a new batch of em. I get it, you think some of the skins are pretty, and it’d just be dandy if you could get one or two for some characters, but we simply just do not need these items.

Yes, I know it’s really, really frustrating and annoying to literally flush hard earned money away. But, all I can say is just don’t do it then. If you want to support ANet, bye items which you are sure to get. And if you don’t like their practices with chance boxes, then don’t bye them.

There will be more skins. Some of them you’ll like, some of them you won’t. Some of them will be in chance boxes, some of them won’t.

And hey, of you really have had enough, stop playing. If you aren’t having fun in a game, what’s the point?

Subscription models allow you to unlock all the content, you realize how rare these skins are? You can’t even fill your PvP locker up… it’s ridiculous and weather he needs them or not, if you are a collector, you should be able to get them, especially if you are a good supporter(money invested), and you shouldn’t have to pay $500 to get enough ticket skins. This is poor practices on the games behalf and why subscription models are better than free models for dedicated gamers. Without dedicated gamers, Guild Wars 2 would keel over because it wouldn’t make any money, we should be the last people being screwed over. I’d rather pay $15 and get what I should be entitled to, rather then being expected to pay $500 a month due to all the people that don’t put any money into the game.

Sadly, bottom line, cash shops are like a pyramid scheme, certain types of players get screwed over pretty badly, just so they can label their game “free and awesome”.

Firstly, you dont know what a pyramid (multi-level marketing) scheme actually is.

Second, when you PAY $15 a month then you are entitled to things, when its free then you should never expect to get more than the $60 game you initially paid for.

Third, if subscription models actually worked anymore then you would see them still in new games, the fact that they are DEAD outside WoW says a lot about what the vast majority of players think of them.

If you really think about why companies go F2P, its very insulting. You know, how they view the average MMO’er lol.

FYI…they didn’t do it to be nice…

PadmaN.7820:

My spvp character is dressed exactly the same as my pve/wvw one except it isn’t carrying a legendary…i don’t see a problem.
Maybe you should actually try spvp one day. Takes 1 day to get a nice suit.

No it doesn’t…

Astralporing.1957:

Wallace MacBix.2089:

You do realize that your argument is that “I don’t have that much time to get this item, it should be easier to get.”

Apparently you didn’t get the math, so i will explain it to you. At the estimated farming rate of candies, considering that the event runs for a very limited time, then, even if the same item will be accessible next year (which is not certain – lot of GW1 event items changed every year and you couldn’t get them again if you missed it), you won’t ever get the wings. 5-7 years that you said you played gw1 would be still too short.
It’s not “I don’t have that much time to get this item, it should be easier to get.”, but “This item is clearly designed to be impossible to get this way, so it should be changed into something that is possible”.

I knew it wasn’t that hard to understand! +1

Wallace MacBix.2089:

Amun Ra.6435:

Wallace MacBix.2089:

Amun Ra.6435:

Awe.1096:

Or maybe you dont need to feel entitled to complete it this year? In GW1 there were some holiday titles (so like achievements) which were IMPOSSIBLE to complete in one year even if you would play 24 hours while the event was live. I was fine with that. And so I am fine with what they offer now. If you cant grind it now, you can return next year and finish the job. Its not like this thing will be gone forever.

I don’t think you fully realize the time needed. You say complete it next year…will still be impossible. Remember…its only open for one month and the general consensus so far is that 100-200/hr will be the norm(yes I know its day one) which equals about 500-1000 hrs of play time. I have logged about 900 hrs SINCE LAUNCH! 8/28/12! Almost a full year! Get it?

No offense, but then the item isn’t meant for you. If someone can find the time to grind/get lucky to get something, good for them. Everyone doesn’t need to get everything. Remember you are getting a free light/medium/heavy helm if you log in for the fireworks festival, and you can get a free back item by doing 10/14 of the achievements. After 5-7 years there are still plenty of things I still never got in gw1, but why should that bother me? I missed F&F, should I complain because I couldn’t log in then and get X thing?

Why does it concern me what bothers you and what doesn’t? I really wish people could come up with a response that doesn’t include “Well it doesn’t bother me so it shouldn’t bother you” Or “I play like this so you should also”…never got the logic in these types of responses.

You do realize that your argument is that “I don’t have that much time to get this item, it should be easier to get.” My point wasn’t that it doesn’t bother me, my point was that people just seem to complain about everything being hard to get. I don’t care how you play, but to complain that something is too hard to get only after a couple of hours after the event started with no knowledge on drop rates of the wings themselves is ill informed. This is just a cosmetic item (like basically every item in gw2) it has no effect on how you play the game other than your anger over not getting it.

I’m sorry…was I arguing something? I thought I was just stating simple math based on the little info we had (yes I did point out it is only day one, perhaps you can read next time) How does simply stating acquire time equate to complaining?

Am I angry because I used a “!” in my reponse? Did I say I was “angry”?

And why do you insist on arguing points I never brought up?

HPLT.7132:

Opened them indeed today. Was in hospital due to an ellbow injury in may (3rd-28th) and didnt found any special hint in the patchnotes on wiki. Since vendor is still selling the items i thought they would still be available. However lost alot of gems but learned my lesson.

Try putting in a ticket…you never know, maybe they can roll back your account and giva you a refund.

tigirius.9014:

jaka.9635:

I think arenanet are not behind this. A lot of people say that it is NCsoft. I don’t know for sure, but from my experience with arenanet, i don’t think they would come up with this kind of cheap sale offers…

You’ll find that all of the systems they use to limit loot, DR, nerfs, RNG are designed specifically by NCsoft. That’s why I’m extremely leery about Wildstar. I refuse to buy the thing at launch because this kind of thing with the loot didn’t start with GW2 until 2 months after launch.

And these people will just sit there and churp “RNG RNG” while they click on the ui to buy more of these boxes. It’s not random that’s the problem unless you consider a 1 or a 0 random because even the loot is like that in this game, but don’t be fooled it’s nowhere near 50/50%.

I am glad I came to this game with the full understanding that I am still getting an NCSoft game and that there WOULD be a grind regardless of what they were saying. Which is why I think I am still playing…no real surprises, coming from Aion.

Donaga.3980:

35 rich coffers -> 0 tickets
I have a friend who bought 98 rich coffers – > 0 tickets

GG Anet

At this point it is only the players fault for disappointment…but I guess if people didn’t learn with F&F and SS…guess they never will…

blackgoat.5172:

Zoia.3678:

Getting a ticket actually seems possible now. :p

Don’t fool yourself, that line of thinking will just lead to more disappointment.

Pretty much this…

Mystic.5934:

if not through patches, how will these things be changed? crystalline dust actually hit the point of zero sell listings a couple weeks ago. it’s a needed commodity.

Anet could have easily rolled back some of the changes they did to Orr to get farmers back there.

There is already a thread on this…with dev response even.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/DELETE-ME-1/first#post2195267

Im Mudbone.1437:

Ok I Did It.2854:

ColinJohanson.2394:

tigirius.9014:

“Globs of Ectoplasm can now be salvaged into Piles of Crystalline Dust. This change should help Globs of Ectoplasm maintain a strong value in the economy and lower the cost of Crystalline Dust.”

Thank you. Now if we could have a solution for lodestones that would be awesome!

Additional ways for other items like lodestones will arrive later this summer, there part of a much larger reward overhaul (outlined in very high level detail here) we’ll go into more low level detail when we update the status of this blog: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/colin-johanson-on-guild-wars-2-in-the-months-ahead/

The dust solution was a quicker low hanging fruit change outside of the larger reward system overhauls, so we figured we’d get it out quickly based on all of your feedback.

As always, thanks again for feedback folks!

Where I do commend Anet for “trying” to solve this issue, its not really solved, the loot in your end game 80 zones is still no where to be seen, all you did here was move the attention away from 1 T6 mat for a few days, some weapons requires a lot of dust and ecto, but now we have to salvage the ecto to get the dust,

Why could you not just FIX THE LOOT in your level 80 end game zones, this is poor.

I agree the LvL80 zone loot tables need an overhaul. +1, but, TY ANET for what attention you do give the community.

I have to agree with both of these responses. I wouldn’t have put it so blunt, maybe its needed, but Anet could have easily rolled back the timers in Orr and loosen the belt on DR a little to solve the dust problem. Actually, it would have made two camps happy instead of one…Farmers could farm again and dust would go back to 17s like it was for those who needed it.

Wallace MacBix.2089:

Amun Ra.6435:

Awe.1096:

Or maybe you dont need to feel entitled to complete it this year? In GW1 there were some holiday titles (so like achievements) which were IMPOSSIBLE to complete in one year even if you would play 24 hours while the event was live. I was fine with that. And so I am fine with what they offer now. If you cant grind it now, you can return next year and finish the job. Its not like this thing will be gone forever.

I don’t think you fully realize the time needed. You say complete it next year…will still be impossible. Remember…its only open for one month and the general consensus so far is that 100-200/hr will be the norm(yes I know its day one) which equals about 500-1000 hrs of play time. I have logged about 900 hrs SINCE LAUNCH! 8/28/12! Almost a full year! Get it?

No offense, but then the item isn’t meant for you. If someone can find the time to grind/get lucky to get something, good for them. Everyone doesn’t need to get everything. Remember you are getting a free light/medium/heavy helm if you log in for the fireworks festival, and you can get a free back item by doing 10/14 of the achievements. After 5-7 years there are still plenty of things I still never got in gw1, but why should that bother me? I missed F&F, should I complain because I couldn’t log in then and get X thing?

Why does it concern me what bothers you and what doesn’t? I really wish people could come up with a response that doesn’t include “Well it doesn’t bother me so it shouldn’t bother you” Or “I play like this so you should also”…never got the logic in these types of responses.

AndyJo.8794:

Hedge.8760:

Awe.1096:

Or maybe you dont need to feel entitled to complete it this year? In GW1 there were some holiday titles (so like achievements) which were IMPOSSIBLE to complete in one year even if you would play 24 hours while the event was live. I was fine with that. And so I am fine with what they offer now. If you cant grind it now, you can return next year and finish the job. Its not like this thing will be gone forever.

If you have a source on that, I’d be fine with it. But don’t just assume things and call other people entitled who assume otherwise.

Played GW1 for eight years.

Fact: Some Holiday titles took a minimum of 3 years to complete unless you played 12+ hour days, simply factored by respawn times

Observation: GW2 players are deeply entitled and want everything for either no effort or no risk.

I wonder how successful GW2 would have been if it was a GW1 clone…

Awe.1096:

Or maybe you dont need to feel entitled to complete it this year? In GW1 there were some holiday titles (so like achievements) which were IMPOSSIBLE to complete in one year even if you would play 24 hours while the event was live. I was fine with that. And so I am fine with what they offer now. If you cant grind it now, you can return next year and finish the job. Its not like this thing will be gone forever.

I don’t think you fully realize the time needed. You say complete it next year…will still be impossible. Remember…its only open for one month and the general consensus so far is that 100-200/hr will be the norm(yes I know its day one) which equals about 500-1000 hrs of play time. I have logged about 900 hrs SINCE LAUNCH! 8/28/12! Almost a full year! Get it?