Guild Wars 2

trashtalking is fun, actually more fun to watch than go4

long live salty ppl

Aktium.9506:

Jelzouki.4128:

Constantly referred to as a second health bar but doesn’t regenerate out of combat…..it should at least stay at 50% out of combat.

That wouldn’t solve our survivability problems in teamfights the least bit though. It would just be unnecessary added power.

What is needed is iframes. In a fictional scenario where every class has no stamina left for dodges and is inevitably going to be hit by an attack that will do, say 500 000 damage if it connects, Necro is the only class that has no way of living through the scenario through the use of traits, weapon skills or utility skills. Every other class in the game has a way to live through said scenario in some way. As long as this is the case it will be a glaring and fundamental weakness of the class, self-regenerating Death Shroud would not solve this. Starting with 10-20% in PvP would be nice though.

wurm.

Yasha.5963:

Reduce might stacking to max of 10?

that would nerf every single spec…

pvp needs celestial eles to be nerfed…not everyone, cause after equally nerfing everything they still gonna sit on top spamming their crap and trolling everyone else all day long

chibbi.3706:

This would be like if warriors started with endure pain disabled until they get into combat, and then it goes on cd before you can use it.
Or the same for thief and stealth.

Necro are the only class that doesn’t have access to its ONLY defensive mechanic in the beginning of the game.

It’s extremely annoying to have a thief or mesmer pop you down and only being able to say "oh well, didndt’ have life force, couldn’t do anything ¯\(?)/¯ "

I’m pretty sure this had been said a billion times already and we’re talking to a wall, but maybe one day you’ll be able to listen to your playerbase, a man can hope.

nope there would be like if warriors started with no adrenaline…

oh wait…wars actually start with no adrenaline

ds is like war adrenaline or mesmer clones

if you are out of combat you should lose it

/thread

another go4 final…10 players…4 eles…

but yeah ele is totally fine..

oh btw, there were 4 eles in semifinals too…

not even asking about dafq are devs doin….not anymore…they are not even answering a 4k views thread, as usual

atm you go war only for rampage, outside it it’s pretty trash

or you just reroll cele d/d ele and go faceroll not even really needing an elitè

#anetbalance

Empty Sky.6354:

BlackBeard.2873:

Empty Sky.6354:

Oh stop it,because tears are real. Water/Arcana line are mandatory(which gives eles only 1 real choice of 3rd trait line) and are making eles viable in pvp. And they are pretty much the same as before with some changes of course,because all classes went through changes. All classes got some merged traits,so stop with your tears
What your problem is,that you don’t know,how to beat ele I guess. And now with full 3 trait lines (which every class has),your tears are even bigger.
Go play ele with Fire/Air/Earth ,berserker amulet(11k hp) and sigils other than energy and without heal signet. Let’s see,how long you’ll last. Or even Fire/Air/Arcana…or Fire/Air/Water….or Earth/Air/Water….or Earth/Air/Arcana
Evasive Arcana has 10s cd,so it’s not like,you dodge 2x in Water and get heal both times from dodging. Cone Of Cold can be interupted.
You can’t interupt thieves’ Withdraw or warriors signet heal,guards’ block heal,etc.. Are you gonna cry about those as well?
Burning is problem on all classes,not just ele. Yes I said it before,nerf burning.
And ele builds it’s dmg over time. You won’t be 1 shoted from eles at start of fight,unlike some classes.

Community needs to learn and adapt to classes having all 3 full trait lines. Water/Arcana line are pretty much the same as before. Sure traits got merged,some traits shifted,but at the end of the day,they do pretty much the same they did before.

Hahaha, I am not crying. Check my post history, I have mained ele for over 2 years, but I can admit when they have aspects that are OP. I am giving my honest opinion about the power-level of the class.

I also never said “hey, lets nerf it into the ground.” I laid out very clear and logical reasoning why having all the sustain tied to traits that lack counters are a bad thing, and provided suggestions to both tweak eles power AND break the reliance on arcana. Please take a minute from raging and actually read the words written.

You even complain that berserker ele isn’t viable, which is EXACLTY the kind of thing my suggestion tries to address. If the class wasn’t given so much rotational (i.e. trait-based) sustain, you could have strong defensive skills/utilities on a shorter CD, which would open up a dps role potentially. Unlike most other classes that are played optimally by using skills in no particular order, optimal ele play actually involves sticking very close to a general rotation, which is honestly kind of dumb, imo.

In regards to other non-interruptible heals, I HAVE SUGGESTED THEY BE GIVEN A CAST TIME, specifically for withdraw and healing turret! Healing signet is countered by poison, but the others aren’t really, and that is TERRIBLE design! TOO MANY THINGS IN THIS GAME LACK COUNTERPLAY, AND THAT IS WHY PVP IS DYING!

I understand you are playing ele and think everyone just wants to nerf the class into the ground, thus getting defensive. However, if you actually try to play other classes, you will find that the defensive/healing capability IS OP. High sustain is needed to play a bruiser role, but currently the sustain is just a bit too high, to the point that it is good vs. both burst AND sustained dps. There is a reason they nerfed the heal on evasive arcana 2+ years ago, along with some other adjustments. While nerfing cleansing water went too far, and they were right to un-nerf it, the class is now in a state where it has too much sustain when water/arcana, and even has added power due to small buffs added when they made the class “crap-tier” (For reference, burning speed didn’t used to evade, and frozen blast didn’t blast).

My whole point of going berserker amulet,etc. was that you can’t play that. You are gonna go mandatory Arcana/Water,take healing signet,at least 2 Cantrips(but let’s be honest,usually all 3 cantrips are taken) and FGS. Amulet celestial and sigil energy (another must) and other of choice.
Again me saying,play without Energy Sigil,is that you can’t in this meta. People will count 1,2 dodge,and then you’re dead.
Eles can survive for long time,if they kite (and that has nothing to do with build…that is just people using brains and playing smart),but they can also die in matter of seconds,if focused properly and bursted down.
On d/d Cone of Cold can be interuped,so can #5 Cleansing Wave,it’d be dumb to put cast times on Evasive Arcana and when you swap to water…those are only 2 insta heals.

And I play other classes,just not that often. I am sucker for elements.

keep in mind berserker amulet atm is unviable on any class

Dps specs go for marauder not berserker…and that’s exactly what fresh air eles do

no need ds…cele d/d is totally broken without it already

“D/D ele is not op cause you can still kill noob eles”

“I don’t have issues with random eles in hotjoin/ranked/unranked”

Let me tell you this:

In high level pvp, not hotjoin, not unranked and so on, where people know how to properly play their classes, nothing in the actual meta (Except shatter mesmer that can’t fight on point anyway) can safely 1v1 a celestial d/d ele on point (While on the other hand, he can 1v1 pretty much everything ofc)….not even war in rampage would probably kill him cause he can just dodge until he’s out of endurance, kite around another 6 seconds until rampage is over then come back and win while point is still neutral cause a war, even in rampage, will never catch a d/d if he starts to kite. Outside war in rampage and shatter mes for anything else it’s just a pointless fight…if someone still thinks d/d is easy to kill and want to prove it just give me a link to a top team’s esl match where someone easily kills a celestial d/d 1v1 on point…until that hotjoin/unranked/whatever personal experience vs braindead eles proves absolutely nothing. Everyone can kill noob eles (Still usually need to be way more skilled then them but considering avg ranked/unranked eles it’s not that hard) but balance is not made around ppl who don’t know how to play…if you want to talk about balance you must look at those playing class/spec at his full potential and celestial d/d at full potential is the most broken thing in pvp since 1 year ago. Pretty much everyone knows that

If you want to prove cele d/d is counterable just go 1v1 with denshee on your point, kill him without losing cap, upload on youtube and post it here. Pointless bla bla is worth nothing.

Apolo.5942:

I think it would be a good idea if devs came out and officially commented on whether this is intentional or not.

Reason is simple, many many people despise the explosive meta for many valid reasons, how ever many keep trying despite it being so frustrating in the hopes of an eventual revalance. Now if Devs can comment on this and officially state this is the way the game is moving then so be it, we can move to something else, but it would be nice to know.

oh well…at least people will eventually learn to dodge

…or getting rekt if they can’t learn

Both cases are pretty fine

An ele complaining….

that’s just….wow…

As an ele you need to realize you play the most broken class in this game since 1 year ago so i don’t think you have ANY right to complain…about anything…at all

Just slap on your celestial amulet and go faceroll people…and, for the love of god, stop whining…at a barely decent level you’re pretty much unkillable in a 1v1 on point (Even vs people with way higher skill than you), you have one of the best team support in the game, good mobility, nonsense sustain, tons of burning, decent direct dmg, good condi dmg, almost permavigor, prot and regen, invulnerability, teleport, cc, indecent condi cleanse and can disengage and refull in seconds…jusus christ, you can trait to kittening aoe remove burning and chill with just one random dodge…and you’re plenty of dodges..

shall i continue?

Oh and no, ele is not forced to run celestial…marauder fresh air with blind on burning is freakin’ nonsense too…some classes can’t even try to engage a fresh air after last patch it only lacks the support that celestial d/d gives and that’s why it’s not meta but on the braindead scale is almost at same level…just air auto, burst, invuln (And projectile block) with heal if needed, rinse and repeat..

Just try to do like all other eles do…enjoy your broken crap in silence but please, please don’t even try to explain why ele shouldn’t be considered op, i don’t know where are you coming from, if pve, zerg vs zerg or whatever but…just…don’t…

Shala.8352:

The lack of stability has bring wvw into a massive pirateship where meele are nothing than shields and false targets defending the massive pew pew behind. Actualy in wvw playing melee requires double the skill, but meh if arenanet like this meta, then we will keep the game.
Talking about pvp, stability should be the last priority boon to be rip. Aniway if you think you dont have enough stability in pvp, try wvw!! Static fields are actualy the counter to stability (his counter).

does it look like someone care bout pve/zergs vs doors?

Zelulose.8695:

Lol yes mesmer is op but they will always be op so my response would be keep crying. There is nothing you will ever be able do about them. As arrogant as this sounds it is true.

…and that’s why mesmer had been not viable for almost 1 year i guess…

/logic

In high level noone cares about having fun (I mean a fun match is always good but that’s not what you should care about)…you play what your team needs you to play (If you’re good enough at it ofc…if not someone else is gonna replace you) in order to win, you have specific roles and your mates expect you to do your job when needed (Example: if there’s an enemy mesmer i don’t have to tell my thief to go on him, thieves already know they must always pressure mesmers as much as possible..while random pug thieves are probably just going svanir or something), if i’m on war with my mesmer mate and we’re in 2v2 there’s no need to tell me to stay on point to let mesmer kite…while i’ve seen plenty of brain-damaged wars (While i was on mesmer) leaving me holding point while they were chasing eles around it (Doing absolutely nothing ofc…and as warrrior main it’s real pain to watch those people), team not cleaving on downed, not calling targets and so on are things that you won’t find in high level games…ar at least shouldn’t…

There are so many differences between casual yolo guys and high level players that one thread won’t be enough to list everything

choovanski.5462:

why balance for people who don’t know what skills people are using and don’t recognise tells? normally the complaints from these people boil down to ‘they used cc then damage OP NERF NERF NERF’.

people complaining about mesmers while not even able to dodge mirror blade….

forum logic

Aenaos.8160:

Don’t bring a unfinished,under performing class,that is
still in beta in ranked matches…
You shouldn’t be allowed to do so in the first place but hey…
It’s GW2.

lel got vs a 3 revenant premade yesterday while on marauder hambow…

won 1v2 far and still half hp…there was one more revenant guy coming from mid but he just ran away after looking at his mates getting rekt lmao

…they should finish it before letting ppl go suicide..

Vieteriukko.6075:

>bhagwad.4281
>Does anyone miss ranks yet? One of the incentives for me to play was to get higher >and higher ranks. I need some goal.

I do miss rank progression. No idea why it needed to be watered down.

cause pve guys used to cry because it was too long…obviously

right now there is no indication of anything…leaderboards promoting farming instead of skill, crap mmr (You wait 8+ minutes while SOLO in UNRANKED and then you go with a pve pug team vs 3-4 ppl premades), crap chests with crap rewards inside, pretty much no money from pvp (Compared to what pve heroes get for just stacking near walls in dungeons doin nothing), no unique rewards for having tens of thousands pvp matches on your back and on and on and on…

There’s no reason to tryhard…at all

My (Active) friedlist gets shorter and shorter everyday…not a surprise tho, i’m kinda inactive too since this pvp is just pointless atm…well…let’s say even more pointless…

GoogleBrandon.5073:

last year’s April 15th destroyed actual progression

this…along with many other things

there’s just nothing to play for..aside from pve heroes playing for achievement points and crap like that ofc

Quoting pirates of the caribbean: “What shall we die for?”

Belial.9350:

Because NA only has 1 good team whereas EU has several.

pretty much

Gav.1425:

I LOVE deathmatch and Courtyard is my favorite map. Why is it so unpopular?

It seems that anyone that likes deathmatch already seeks it out through GvG, which guild halls will be officially introducing with HOT.

With new the Stronghold map introducing strongholds as a new match-type, do you think SH will be popular? Could they push deathmatch as a match-type too?

Because this game is not designed for deathmatch (Too much spammable stuff to make it anywhere near skilled)

Well zerg vs zerg heroes usually love deathmatch tho…since they have no idea on how to rotate, tactics and so on…

Furious.2867:

they keep abominations known as eles in check.

4/10 eles in that esl final. that speaks volumes that’s why ppl that main eles profusely defend their class.

+1

Ross Biddle.2367:

Every match I’ve played with mesmers on the other team, I’ve won. Including things like 3x mesmers on the other team. I main Mesmer btw, so I’ve always played Mesmer in PvP :p

But come on, what do you expect? With the forums spitting out threads about how OP Mesmer is, and how much instagib Engie nades are, of course you’re going to have people go in to try it out. Pretty soon the average pretender will grow bored with their alt, or tired of the reality of being rolled by people who actually know what they’re doing, and move back to whatever was comfortable before.

Meh bad mesmers (Aka fotm rerollers) aren’t really an issue…an average decent thief can still kill 90% of mesmers out there and a good one still owns good mesmers, they just need to try a bit harder without random spam…

atreyu.9624:

How can you beat mesmers post patch?

You gotta hope that it is just one of those fotm rerollers that have no idea what they are doing

Or you just need a good thief…braindead ones spamming hs and shadow shot don’t work anymore

Supreme.3164:

Archaon.9524:

quite funny cause in last esl pretty much everyone had a double ele team…no double engi (Let alone double mesmer lol)

Looking at which class is played the most in high level tournaments (And even 2 on each team) is a really valid way to spot broken stuff and i think we already have a winner

…and it’s not mesmer nor engi (Even with nade’s bug)

How many teams join ESL?, how many teams reached the finals?..which team won using 2x ele..yes that’s right Abjured, the same team that won even without 2x eles..strange isn’kitten I’m pretty sure Abjured wins because they’re Abjured and not because they abuse anything broken…

On the other side of pvp (90%) we have pug team, how many use double ele?…NONE, How many pug team don’t use an ele at all?…the majority

Feel free to post videos of pugs teams facerolling ranked/unranked with 2x eles

I’m not talking about NA esl i’m talking about EU

Noone gives a crap bout NA esl lol…na it’s just abjured vs randoms, the competitive part is pretty much nonexistent, they could run 5 rifle wars and would probably win anyway

EremiteAngel.9765:

Guys, you realize that this is a massive new patch that will be tweaked and tweaked again until and after the new elite specs are introduced in HoT right?

With such massive overhauls and changes, I think we can expect that certain classes will be overpowered or underpowered, certain skills will be brokenly OP or brokenly useless and the list goes on.

Give Anet time to fix and balance things.

Start complaining 1 year after HoT arrives.

Chances are, you won’t be complaining 1 year after HoT because Anet would then have the time to fix things.

we actually gave them almost 3 years…and game had never been anywhere near to proper balance

so yeah..

rifle is crap

/thread

Oh btw i got stuck after using portal while immobilized and had to /dance to get rid of it

Tought that got fixed time ago….i was wrong

GG

I’m playing shatter mes without MoD and PU and ppl still die horribly and whisper me “mesmer op” 24/7….

So no, it’s not stunlock or stealth…it’s just stupid ppl

Wasn’t much of a surprise tho

i’m seriously start thinking it’s actually intended…ofc maybe, just maybe, a dev’s answer would be nice…you know….some feedback…something…

nvm

leman.7682:

I’ve literally seen Henry pull two consecutive all-nighters at the British Library researching these suggestions. For that only, he deserves eternal respect.

Lettuce.2945:

Oxidia.8103:

It seems every class is op on this part of the forum. Well, every class IS op if you don’t know how to play your class. Sorry.

I know how to play 5 classes. I think I’m ok there.

the only one i know that can REALLY play 5 classes is drazeh…and you, sir, are not drazeh

Lordrosicky.5813:

Ele is the best class. The most broken easy mode class. Even thieves and mesmers aren’t as OP as ele currently. Its the best class due to burning mega buff and celestial buff (wtf btw?)

Well we already saw double ele teams in esl 84 and is only gonna get worse, a same skill level shoutbow used to have a pretty decent matchup vs eles…now you can’t kill them even with shout, and this + paintrain buffs pushed it out of meta (Not so bad tho…I always hated shout anyway) but problem is that, right now, there are no hardcounters… and no real counters = broken
It’s the only class that, atm, runs around with pretty much nothing able to effectively stop it outside 2v1’ing (And can still take some time)

Amityel.5324:

FlawlezZ.3178:

you can use mesmer signet (with 180 seconds cd tho)

144 if traited so ye it can be counter for wars rampage

wasting a moa for something you can dodge and kite all day?

cool

Noha.3749:

Mesmers were fine, greatly awarded for skillful play.
However they were locked to a single viable burst build, which is now made almost baseline.
So after the patch they got more damage (so did everyone) and can grab PU for the longest stealth uptime in the game whilst not being as affected by the defensive trait stats some other professions relied upon.

How to make them less forgiving and awarding for good plays:
1. Set their health on par with elem, guard and thieves.
2. Reduce the increased stealth uptime gained from PU, half would do.

*Note bout point #2;
No body asked for that insane stealth uptime, not even the mesmers and some of them already admits that they nerfed the wrong stuff after patch, namely condi stacks.

Fix PU, set their HP on par with thieves/ele/guard = Mesmers are fine!

I’m not even playing pu…i run with immob on rupt, pu is gay u.u

Sagat.3285:

Hachiman.2470:

I’m actually starting to think this was intended since anet has made zero mention of this being a bug.

They made “zero mention” about everything.

True dat

And still keep in mind mesmer can’t hold points (Expec now with longer stealth)…and it’s a huge flaw in conquest that forces you to play only as a roamer or (At best) decapper, since if you want to hold you always need someone on point cause mesmer needs to kite in order to survive, if you don’t kite you’re a dead mesmer walking…there’s a reason why celestial specs are kings of conquest…celestials can roam, decap, work really good in teamfight and are still are really strong in 1v1 too while holding.
Mesmers (Except for the occasional 1v1 push) are usually forced into roamer’s role and they’re built for it (Go in, unload everything on targets and go out and kite around until spike is out of cd again)…pretty much like thieves

Talking about high level real world pvp ofc…not helseth going far and holding it vs a bunch of suicidal pve heroes coming on forums right after with something like “I can’t dodge mirror blade and i ate the whole 10k burst…mesmer op qq plz nerf”

Side note: i’m warrior main

quite funny cause in last esl pretty much everyone had a double ele team…no double engi (Let alone double mesmer lol)

Looking at which class is played the most in high level tournaments (And even 2 on each team) is a really valid way to spot broken stuff and i think we already have a winner

…and it’s not mesmer nor engi (Even with nade’s bug)

Roxx.8713:

not every class has blocks or invul

More likely all classes except thief…that has stealth and ton of evades for a reason

Let alone this, engi’s nades are obviously bugged as kitten…but don’t worry in less than 6 months they’re gonna fix it…maybe…

It’s ok…it’s engineer so bug fixing is gonna take like 6 months

Anet loves engis you know…still wondering if this bug was truly NOT intended tho

Chapell.1346:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

how mesmer stealth whole game ?
how they one shot ppl ?

i tried, get one shotted myself.

Because you probably main Warrior and i Thief *wink

If a mesmer (Any mesmer…well anything no matter class/spec) oneshots you on war you’ve better to quit this game already….you don’t get oneshotted by a shatter mesmer even if you’re moa lol
And yeah, i main war…or better “used to main” since war is now almost out of meta cause ele’s opness is completely out of control and it’s better in pretty much any tpvp role that war used to play

Nier.8741:

I don’t understand why people think this class is hard. During launch, everyone agreed that Mesmer was broken. That hasn’t changed today and even in the Cele meta, it was only UP because the Cele classes were just as easy and more effective to play.

Now lets talk about mechanics. For starters? Mesmer has so many things that can bait/punish dodges. Mantra of Distraction, Shatter, Phantasms. ALL of those baits/punishes dodges easy. And guess what? Most of what Mesmer can do that is threatening is INSTANT CAST. That’s why if I random dodge and you don’t do anything crazy, I will die in the next few seconds because instant cast mechanics from Mesmer take no skill to land.

Now the next problem? They can do all of these things while spamming evades and stealth.

Portal plays? That’s just rotation awareness, ANYONE can apply rotation awareness to all class. It’s not something relevant to Mesmers only. Portal plays just make rotations EASIER. In which case, Mesmer is an easy class and I rest my case.

Mesmer isn’t hard to play people. Even Helseth is realistically just getting carried by easy mechanics. Decent player and all but my point is Mesmer can actually carry bad players because of how easy they bait dodges for no effort. NOW even thief can’t really counter a Mesmer 1v1.

TL;DR Mesmer is and was always an easy class even when thief countered them. The only time Mesmer will EVER be a skill-based class is if their evades get cut in half and they get something extremely telegraphed + rewarding.

A “never” coming from someone not even appearing on pre 16 dec leaderboards actually sounds quite funny…yeah i checked cause even if your total ignorance is quite obvious it’s always better to confirm

But nvm…go on…and just for fun, which classes/specs, in your opinion, take more skill than shatter mesmer? I’m pretty curious now

or are you planning to eventually move to DX11? Right now this game is so badly optimized it hurts…

more likely because 99% of rangers are power…and 99% of power rangers are brain damaged

2 cents

And after 10 minutes you still get tryhard premades with a full pug team

G freaking G Anet

Are you serious?

Like…for real?

Trigr.6481:

Wheres the appreciation? Your “Offer” still forces veteran players to pre purchase the expansion despite not knowing most of the information, and despite not even knowing a release date. If you wanted to show your appreciation towards veteran players you wouldn’t have to use a character slot as blackmail in order to get money from your existing player base, and frankly it’s still a shady move in my opinion.

Personally don’t fall for this, esp players who play other aspects other than pvp, if you play all aspects of the game, these are the types of players that could potentially be screwed the most when it comes to being completely uninformed before purchase equating to angry customers.

Countless

well..i only play pvp but i’m gonna wait anyway, i don’t care about char slot and before getting hot i really want to see how is gonna be…playing since start (Well…more likely since gw1 first day…10 years ago) all i saw in gw2 pvp till now was a bunch of worthless promises and a stupid casual (pve) friendly mentality that totally ruined the competitive side of this game, if they’re planning to keep up with this bs they can keep their expansion too…i don’t care about 50 euros, but i’m really done looking at a company trying to fool ppl with promises while at the end of the day they don’t really give a kitten to competitive pvp

If they want my money they need to earn it…with facts.

Forsaker.9213:

basicly they fixed all traits that now they are woring in downstaed so 50% more dmg in downstate + CoD and u can kill glass builds :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCoRG3_RWQ8

5 secs later dat guard was crying so loud in map chat….lmao

never…never ever walk around a downed power nec as a zerk spec…stomp quickly or jump at a safe distance and poke him from there xD

Zefrost.3425:

This isn’t referring to the other bajillion power creep updates incoming.

Chill and cripple will no longer affect movement speed skills? What is the point of these conditions, then? NO ONE in the entire game is ever going to kill a greatsword/hammer warrior ever again. There are other problems as well.

This is a really stupid change.

i kill gs hammer wars all day without chill and cripple….just saying..

Terrorsquad.2349:

Wait, I thought this was a singing competition?

Might need to change to title and word “Duet”..

I really thought this was a sing tournament like NA has lol..

na is serious #esports, don’t underestimate singin tournaments….noscoc trained his singing skills during downstates in wts 2

now he’s best singer na. How bout dat?

BlackDevil.9268:

So much non sense in 1 thread. If people truely think attacking is the right way to win this you’re absolutely fighting horrible people. There should be no way that a 5 or even 4 man team can’t kill you if you are just attacking. All they have to do is kill the doorbreakers. They could do that without even paying attention to the enemies. Not only that but the attackers are forced to watch and protect their doorbreakers from enemy guards. If anyone has been playing the rush the lord tactic from the getgo, he’s not playing the game mode correctly.

Any team that currently plays the full 15 minutes and only goes for objectives and groups up to kill solo people running around is heavily in favor. You sometimes can easily score 2x the points the enemy has by winning the fights of the buffs and killing players. Crushing the first gate is about the only offesive part you have to do and has a much higher rate of succes than the 50/50 lord rush from the getgo.

The problem is that this tactic only favors you to attack at around 3-2 left on the game, which makes it pretty much useless to even waste your time or by potentially throwing the game.

Archers need to be improved to have more use to the game mode.

There should be more obstructions to jump around and many invisible walls should be deleted. Crushed houses should also create obstructions to jump on or around. This gives the treb also much more use to the game mode for certain comps that rely on ’’parcour’’ like mesmers, thieves, etc.

Either the timer should be increased or it should be easier to attack.

and this pretty much explains why stronghold shoudn’t belong to pvp…just put it in zerg vs zerg and everything is gonna be fine

pvp = teamfights, not killing npcs and doors…that belongs to pve and crap wvsw

and btw flash news anet…this is NOT a moba and never will be, get over it if someone wants to play mobas dota2 and lol are out there and i don’t think gw2 could ever dream to compete with something like dat…if you’re trying to make gw2 pvp moba style you’re gonna fail hard…even harder than your previous fails (Nough said i guess), guild wars got famous because it was DIFFERENT not for copying other games..keep dat in mind