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send a cele dd to 1v1 them…cele dd solves all problems

#balance

How exactly does sending a d/d ele to suicide vs them solve the condi mesmer problem? Unless the ele is running diamond skin (which less than 1% of eles run), it will get destroyed by the condi mesmer.

all condi mesmers i’ve seen so far just disengaged from 1v1 with cele dd cause they couldn’t kill the ele and couldn’t contest point either since going on point would have ended with a pretty dead mesmer

All condi mesmers you’ve seen so far were bad then.

wait are you actually saying that there are some good condi mesmers too? Good mesmers don’t run condi so it makes no sense..

Not exactly true. If condi mesmer is a cheese build, then people who are good mesmers would be extremely good on a build with high base potential

But this whole discussion is moot. I don’t understand why people keep trying to balance around solo queue. It’s not how that game was constructed. Find a team or lose to the builds which capitalize on inadequate team play.

condi mesmer is easy to play and pretty cancer…but it’s not what mesmer is supposed to do in team (Burst, portal, boon removal, cleave and so on) and if you need a condi spec there are way better options around….mesmers have a specific role in comps, condi mes is totally useless for that that’s why you won’t see condi mesmers outside those running it for trolling pugs in soloq

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Why 2 Thief Teams Fail-Lose ALL THE TIME?

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good thieves still counter mesmers

Comparing apples with elephants again?

Good mesmer > good thief.

Mesmer have way to much pressure and way to much instant invuln for the thief to get a good hit in.

at top level thief>mesmer …you will never see helseth going for 1v1 with levin, chozen, renna and so on…ofc reterded thieves just spamming hs are gonna die, but that’s pretty legit, thief is not a matchup you want to go for while on shatter mesmer…at all, cause at same skill level thief is gonna win (Let alone 1v1’ing thieves is already pretty useless anyway)

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Condi Mesmers.

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send a cele dd to 1v1 them…cele dd solves all problems

#balance

How exactly does sending a d/d ele to suicide vs them solve the condi mesmer problem? Unless the ele is running diamond skin (which less than 1% of eles run), it will get destroyed by the condi mesmer.

all condi mesmers i’ve seen so far just disengaged from 1v1 with cele dd cause they couldn’t kill the ele and couldn’t contest point either since going on point would have ended with a pretty dead mesmer

All condi mesmers you’ve seen so far were bad then.

wait are you actually saying that there are some good condi mesmers too? Good mesmers don’t run condi so it makes no sense..

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What a huge mess of a pvp balance

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lyssa hambow and spirit ranger were top tier too (Decap engi was meta but not as widely used as those 2)…but they didn’t last anywhere as long as freakin celestial eles

god they had been around for 1 year already…one…kittening…year

Sadly enough Lyssa Meta were one of the better times for GW2 PvP. Despite all the imbalances this used to be the meta I personally enjoyed the most. Also: almost any class had a viable build and no boring D/D Eles – god how I miss this. S/D Primetime.

meh i remeber CM running triple hambow….dat wasn’t what i would call a good time XD

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Why 2 Thief Teams Fail-Lose ALL THE TIME?

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cause 1 thief is always good…2 thieves is worthless unless they have 2 mesmers maybe

Thieves don’t counter mesmers anymore…..

good thieves still counter mesmers

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What a huge mess of a pvp balance

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following top players suggestions would lead to 99% pve heroes not being able to do anything in pvp anymore…ez mode specs are mainly aimed at carrying ppl who would only be rallybots on balanced specs

decap engi, turret engi, spirit ranger, mm necro, lyssa hambow, celestial eles and so on…..had always been like this and always will be

I think most top players understand why easymode specs like these must exist. But what Anet needs to understand is that these specs shouldn’t be top tier like DD ele is now.

lyssa hambow and spirit ranger were top tier too (Decap engi was meta but not as widely used as those 2)…but they didn’t last anywhere as long as freakin celestial eles

god they had been around for 1 year already…one…kittening…year

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A real solution to Diamond Skin!

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If you can’t take out 10% health without conditions then your problem is bigger than your build

Thank god eles just stand there and never heal back up.

and thanks god eles don’t even have that many heals

lmao

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Why 2 Thief Teams Fail-Lose ALL THE TIME?

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cause 1 thief is always good…2 thieves is worthless unless they have 2 mesmers maybe

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Played ~10matches today, all against premade

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The fact that they were probably trolling/sleeping/rom drunk (lol) or anything else doesn’t mean stuff like this should be allowed to happen anyway

How would you stop it from happening? Not allow people to play with their friends? Only allow 2 man groups? I bet 2 Orange Logo would still roflstomp against all pugs, if the rest are decent. What if you got 3 buddies that want to play? Let them queue in the 3-5 man premades onl… oh wait. Thats impossible. Because they could never find the remaining 2. Split premade queues? Queue as a 4 man only to find that no other 4 man teams are currently queueing… well, Anet would tell you that of course, you’d just be queueing forever.

Maybe we should only allow 5 mans in tournaments. Its not like sPvP need players anyway, pfff.

The mixed queue is a necessary evil IMO. Yeah you meet premades. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. Sometimes you meet Orange Logo, which I would think was awesome. The only way to truly test your skills is going up against those that are better.

are you even serious?

if i have to meet orng it should happen while i’m 5 ppl premade too obviously….not pugs vs top eu team, would be really hard with full premade already, with pug team you can just go afk from start and save time

why? its just a game you will lose from orng so what?

god i’m so tired to explain obvious stuff to ppl who probably don’t even get the point of this entire thread

i’m done

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Toxic Community Ruining the Game?

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the more eles around the more toxic it gets

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The fact that they were probably trolling/sleeping/rom drunk (lol) or anything else doesn’t mean stuff like this should be allowed to happen anyway

How would you stop it from happening? Not allow people to play with their friends? Only allow 2 man groups? I bet 2 Orange Logo would still roflstomp against all pugs, if the rest are decent. What if you got 3 buddies that want to play? Let them queue in the 3-5 man premades onl… oh wait. Thats impossible. Because they could never find the remaining 2. Split premade queues? Queue as a 4 man only to find that no other 4 man teams are currently queueing… well, Anet would tell you that of course, you’d just be queueing forever.

Maybe we should only allow 5 mans in tournaments. Its not like sPvP need players anyway, pfff.

The mixed queue is a necessary evil IMO. Yeah you meet premades. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. Sometimes you meet Orange Logo, which I would think was awesome. The only way to truly test your skills is going up against those that are better.

are you even serious?

if i have to meet orng it should happen while i’m 5 ppl premade too obviously….not pugs vs top eu team, would be really hard with full premade already, with pug team you can just go afk from start and save time

Sometimes i go premade too…and last time highest score for other team was 120-150 vs a 3q in something like 5-6 runs, others didn’t even reach 100 pnts

And no it wasn’t neither fun nor challenging at all (Most of them just had 1 or 2 ppl going afk after getting 3 capped)…and after those sad runs we just disbanded cause it made no sense

I remember some days ago i was 3q with jacky and renna and we met panda and levin duoq on temple (It was pretty late night and probably the only fun match we had till then)…after winning that match i asked panda if they wanted to join us since they were 2 and we were 3 but then we realized that was just gonna be 500-0 everyone and not gonna be fun anymore so we didn’t….

nough said i guess, people are actually doing anet’s job at balancing teams…

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What a huge mess of a pvp balance

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following top players suggestions would lead to 99% pve heroes not being able to do anything in pvp anymore…ez mode specs are mainly aimed at carrying ppl who would only be rallybots on balanced specs

decap engi, turret engi, spirit ranger, mm necro, lyssa hambow, celestial eles and so on…..had always been like this and always will be

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Played ~10matches today, all against premade

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Well, maybe Orange Logo is a mediocre premade. Or maybe they where drunk.

Is this an attempt to make a joke or you seriously don’t know who Orange Logo are ?
You know the guys that took second place in WTS and the guys that managed to beat 2-1 The Abjured in the first set.

Oh I know. So would you also consider 5 random pugs vs Orange Logo with 200 vs 350 points (who knows how it ended) as loosing badly?

The fact that they were probably trolling/sleeping/rom drunk (lol) or anything else doesn’t mean stuff like this should be allowed to happen anyway

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Is Macroing a reportable offense?

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long story short:

- many people definately use macros (Even some “top” players)

- you can’t prove it

so have fun reporting people for something anet can’t verify

weird thing is dat official gw2 keyboard from steel series actually supports macros

#logic

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elementalist builds

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why are you trying to figure out alternative ele specs while you can already run the most broken build ever existed on gw2 (Aka fire celestial d/d)?

kinda weird…

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Add an achivement for Readying Up.

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Because why not.

Small achievement at 15. Medium at 500. Large at 1000.

Maybe at 500, give the tittle minuteman or something.

Also, since I don’t want to make another thread for this. Right now if you check the “mute GW2 when tabbed out” box you still can hear the match found horn when tabbed, but can’t hear the “hold onto your points, seize theirs” or “the match starts soon” announcements when tabbed. Would be nice if we could hear those announcements too when tabbed.

wait a sec….

are you actually serious?

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I think that big part of complaints regarding matchmaking is related to ignorance and inability.

This happened yesterday, and it for sure wasn’t the first time. The Matchmaking is horrible. Constantly bumping into premades as solo/duo queuers is way more annoying than the queue times.

What is the pic supposed to show? 200 vs 350 with 2 neutral points isnt too bad, especially not on that map which can be won by the lord.

A good premade doing 500 vs 50… now that would be bad.

wow people here don’t even know orng

and they still writing on pvp forums…legit af

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Condi Mesmers.

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send a cele dd to 1v1 them…cele dd solves all problems

#balance

How exactly does sending a d/d ele to suicide vs them solve the condi mesmer problem? Unless the ele is running diamond skin (which less than 1% of eles run), it will get destroyed by the condi mesmer.

all condi mesmers i’ve seen so far just disengaged from 1v1 with cele dd cause they couldn’t kill the ele and couldn’t contest point either since going on point would have ended with a pretty dead mesmer

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Why are the needed nerfs taking so long?

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aw come on…stop ele qq already, there were only 8 eles out of 15 players in last eu go4

they not gonna nerf it until everyone running (At least) 4 eles on each team

because, you know, balance is serious business here

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Condi Mesmers.

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send a cele dd to 1v1 them…cele dd solves all problems

#balance

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Dat 4 ele comp

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Only 1 of them actually mains ele apparently. Such balance, much wow.

Yeah only sakuraz mains ele

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Dat 4 ele comp

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https://twitter.com/lordhelseth

he has a point tho

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Dat 4 ele comp

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It is just a matter of skill ;-)
kthxbye has a pretty good experience at highest level in pvp.
Thank you anet for letting such balance in place for so long.
At least we have time to appreciate it.

note: I feel the name of the team a bit trolly and salty :-)
Hope this won’t end soon.

you know that at least 2 of them are far from being used to play ele right? And only 1 actually mains it…lol i can’t even remember argi playing ele at all before this esl

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So when is the ele and mes nerf comming?

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you must be new lol it usually takes half year for Anet to make meaningful changes~

considering they actually buffed eles after 8 months they had been ALREADY broken lmao (Ele is op since they put celestial amulet into the game)

#esportsbalance

I agree that elementalists and mesmers need nerfs…but eles before patch were falling out of meta losing their spot to shout bow warriors…just saying

Oh, poor Eles. How bad it must be to come close to not being in every meta in the game. Lol.

Considering that when shout war was good ele was still meta anyway….

In my opinion all classes should have a right to be meta, defending that if my class isn´t meta then others deserve the same fate is just having kitten-hurt sorry…get over it

And I’m one of the eles that have and will continue to ask to nerfs to ele, the state of the class isn´t good for eles, it dulls our skill and no good ele wants that.

problem is that 95% eles out there are not even close to decent level and will never give up defending cele d/d cause without it being so broken they won’t be able to do something….i know that good eles all agree that ele is broken, the ones who don’t it’s just because they need to be op in order to balance their lack of skills….and forum is plenty of those ppl

Reminds me when hambow was broken more than one year ago and only a few wars (Including me, i even got my first account banned from forums cause i kept asking to tone down MY MAIN CLASS) were asking for balance even if it was our main class…most wars just kept defending it beyond all logic just because they were not able to play on a balanced spec…and it’s the exact same story now with ele, if you talk with ANY top ele he’s gonna tell you that celestial ele needs to be toned down

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Ele Wars 2

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Ele wars 2 also meaning that literally everyone runs around with double cheese ele

cough wts cough….

Yeah yeah abj rotated better i know….considering how easy it is while you have 2 ppl being able to 1v2 for ages…

There is a shy attempt from warriors to force some shoutwar version (it’s not so bad) but honestly Ele is better to 360°. It’s more a desperate move forced by eles.

I watched the entire evening ROm dueling ele and was like Ele could go afk for half of the match, come back, continue and winning the duel.

Rotfl.

Ofc it’s not only about duel, ele contribution to teamfight is really high in many ways, too strong right now.

Yeah i’m trying settler’s shout too (With both shield vs dps comps and wh vs condi comps) but all you can do vs a cele d/d on point is survive…you will never, never, ever gonna kill him…and always manage you cds and stay as far as possible from freakin rof (That is also bugged af applying burning on evades and so on)…if you want to survive just stay away from it…you can get burning stacks even if you don’t touch it just going close enough due to your hitbox that may be larger than your char…if you’re asura (For example) your hitbox is the same as a charr = you are not touching rof with your char but hitbox does and you get burning anyway

when rom tried to 1v1 kervv on point kervv was laughing on ts….’nough said i guess

gg anet gg

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Ele Wars 2

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Ele wars 2 also meaning that literally everyone runs around with double cheese ele

cough wts cough….

Yeah yeah abj rotated better i know….considering how easy it is while you have 2 ppl being able to 1v2 for ages, try to get one less totally reterded spec and you won’t see all those good rotations anymore

aka everyone rotates good when you’re already “outnumbering” other teams with that crap (Meaning that for killing each ele you pretty much always gonna need 2 ppl and unlike bunker guard you can’t even try to pressure them 1v1 cause they’re just gonna destroy you on point)

Sad thing is that the only real counter to double ele comps is to run double ele too….and this is NOT what i call balance, but looks like anet has a different opinion than me…

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you must be new lol it usually takes half year for Anet to make meaningful changes~

considering they actually buffed eles after 8 months they had been ALREADY broken lmao (Ele is op since they put celestial amulet into the game)

#esportsbalance

I agree that elementalists and mesmers need nerfs…but eles before patch were falling out of meta losing their spot to shout bow warriors…just saying

Oh, poor Eles. How bad it must be to come close to not being in every meta in the game. Lol.

Considering that when shout war was good ele was still meta anyway….

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Ele Wars 2

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Elementalist would be perfectly fine if they removed Celestial amulet.

nice try, but no. Ele needs more nerfs than just that.

Hahahahahahahahahaha, lol.

Removing celestial amulet removes eles from the game, simple as that.

only bad eles wouldn’t be able to play without celestial (Considering removing it is gonna lead to other classes no playing bs cele specs too)

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D/D ele

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Anet should not even bother with number-crunching and analysis to determine which profs are currently UP and OP. All they need to do is some player profiling. Once Anet knows which players are most likely to play the current OP fotm, they should just watch them and see what it is that prof can do that is giving them an unfair advantage. Anet, player behavior is telling you WHAT prof(s) are OP, now you just need to figure out WHY.

like when you see many many many good players leaving their mains to reroll ele right? Apparently not for anet

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Get us REAL pvp, just DO IT!

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I will just take that as a troll post.

I have to agree that gvg was more competitive in gw1 yet it is the most competitive playstyle in this game.

wvsw=pve=\=competitive

and no…not even trolling

You obviously never played gvg then.
You have no idea how much tactics is required there.

plenty of videos on youtube…with 90% people just spamming aoes and not even able to dodge…with target on commander lmao

you call something like this competitive?

are you even serious?

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Sick Of The Disrespect To NA Teams

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I don’t disrespect the Abjured, but I do take issue with the balancing of this game. the Abjured has achieved everything with the double d/d ele + X comp. it’s not their fault the spec is broken. but they will abuse it to make money.

There hasn’t been another Abjured running 2 cele ele comp either.

There’s only certain aspects of the Ele that needs shaving. Doing so will not change their performance any, it’s more of a QoL fix.

Abjured is carried by wakkie and phanta. that’s all there is to it. the rest is gravy. d/d eles make this game dumb, and personally, I’m not even thinking of coming back until this garbage is resolved.

I feel like I’m the only NA person who cheered for EU. I didn’t like NA’s lineup and they’re boring to watch. Was looking forward to a tcg/orng final but the cheapness of the d/d eles won.

pretty much..

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Get us REAL pvp, just DO IT!

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I will just take that as a troll post.

I have to agree that gvg was more competitive in gw1 yet it is the most competitive playstyle in this game.

wvsw=pve=\=competitive

and no…not even trolling

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Elementalist and Ring of Fire

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is it supposed to work like this?
or is this actually a bug?

enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCxlFf6Ad54

wait…those were…47 stacks of burning?

wtf anet

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you must be new lol it usually takes half year for Anet to make meaningful changes~

considering they actually buffed eles after 8 months they had been ALREADY broken lmao (Ele is op since they put celestial amulet into the game)

#esportsbalance

Celestial Amulet is here from the beginning in PvP, a real while after came to PvE and WvW. Ele wasn’t OP at that time -.-

i’m not talking about that celestial noone used…i’m talking about THE celestial after they buffed it to nonsense…

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Moreso, GW2 aspired to be a competitive game (“esport”) and you’d like to focus on one gamemode in order for that to work.

But maybe you should actually figure out if that game mode even works and if this is what the community wants, before you invest all your resources into it.
At the moment it’s just sad to see because conquest is obviously all they “can” do.

No real competitive play in this game. (since gvg isn’t supported at all)

For gvg you actually mean all those pve guys, with pve stats and pve gear randomly spamming aoes and shouting on ts with target on commander while 3/4 of them not even knowing kitten are they doin?

because that’s not pvp, it’s called random pve zergfest…let alone being anywere close to competitive.

Gw1 gvg was competitive…gw2 so called “gvg” (And it’s a shame even calling it like the one in gw1) it’s just plain pve

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If Cleansing Conditions had priority...

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being able to chose condition removal (And boon removal) priority would be nice tho

but this sounds like rocket science already…not gonna put any hope on dat

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IMO, probably sometime in late September.

yeah, considering how fast they (fail to) balance this game, september 2016 is gonna be the date…pretty much

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you must be new lol it usually takes half year for Anet to make meaningful changes~

considering they actually buffed eles after 8 months they had been ALREADY broken lmao (Ele is op since they put celestial amulet into the game)

#esportsbalance

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Is there a way to lock target?

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There should be something like promote skill target or stuff like dat in options to prevent you from losing target (But i don’t use it so idk exactly how it works)

Stealth is MEANT to make ppl drop target…that’s why is really good for disengage

Btw…you shouldn’t click skills :P

Unless you play celestial cough staff cough

sorry i couldn’t resist…

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Sick Of The Disrespect To NA Teams

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I’m hearing it everywhere now, (even from shoutcasters and so called analysts)… and honestly it’s really starting to irritate me.

Some of these comments include but are not limited to:

“Abjured only wins because there are no good teams/players in North America.”

“Bring over some EU teams to the NA Go4 Cups so we can give The Abjured some competition.”

“Abjured doesn’t really have good teams to play against in NA so we’re not quite sure what they are capable of.”

You know what, if you brought over some EU teams, they would get crushed by The Abjured too. Period.

… “Yeah right Jasher, you’re an idiot, EU teams have beat the Abjured before.”

To be fair I can only think of 2 teams that “could” potentially beat the current roster of the Abjured.

TCG and oRNG. Hats off to those teams, they have very good players.

But that is just TWO teams.
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Everyone else would get demolished. If you don’t think so, you’re in denial.

And you know what… I think a lot of our NA teams would surprise a lot of the naysayers when it comes to the talent a lot of the North American teams bring to the table…

In other words, I sincerely believe that some of our NA teams would manhandle most of these “competitive” EU teams.

The sad part is that we’ll never know for sure because it’s unrealistic to set up LAN events for a wider group right now.
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If what you mean is that EU has 1 extra top tier team than NA, then sure. But I think it’s foolish for you to assume that because our teams keep losing to Abjured that they aren’t great teams.

This whole thing that EU has better players/teams is a myth that the community keeps propagating without any substantiated evidence. The way they interpret the data is flawed.

Cheese Mode would have destroyed abj but they couldn’t partecipate with their rooster cause some players were 16 ….they were by far the best team eu and they pretty much never lost until disband, underage and nationality bs negated so many top teams to go international while they really deserved to, and this started with TP on PAX when CC went there even if they actually lost vs TP (CC won anyway but they were not the best team)

First wts TCG went there but they were not the strongest eu team (Also due to a pretty out of meta comp) …CM was way stronger, and i think even helseth would agree with this, but they just couldn’t go esports cause too young…first WTS ending would have been totally different

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d/d ele isn’t all that amazing in higher tier play,

Many top teams run double ele comps.

all top teams run double ele actually

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Dear Anet,

Please nerf Scissors, rock is fine though.

Love, Paper.

(seriously though, roll a different class and build that counters it and stop yelling for nerfs on classes that beat yours, before you know it class skills will hit like a fly vs a human)

Bad example my friend. D/D Cele Ele has no counter in the same way that other classes do. That is why the OP is writing a complaint about it.

Ele and Mesmer are both OP in their current states.

Aw come on people, you’re ruining all the fun >_<

i really wanted a wvsw hero to make a list of all those cele dd 1v1 counters…sunday is always good for some lols

Guess why most top players don’t even bother to read forums…lmao

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Get us REAL pvp, just DO IT!

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There is nothing more rewarding to me then, joining WvW….

I stopped reading here.

It’s like opening a thread about changing some rules in superbike championship and then starting with “When i cruise around on my t-max….”

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D/D ele

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Dear Anet,

Please nerf Scissors, rock is fine though.

Love, Paper.

(seriously though, roll a different class and build that counters it and stop yelling for nerfs on classes that beat yours, before you know it class skills will hit like a fly vs a human)

This is the dumbest argument ever, if one class has more of everything from mitigation to dmg to support in one build than most classes have in their whole kit nd only has one counter, a soft counter at that, it should be adjusted.

Stop thinking of it as l2P or l2counterplay, one class just should not have so much going for it. Geez

It wasn’t an argument it was a statement….

Ele has more than 1 counter aswell, it really is a learn to play thing… And I don’t mean learn to play your class, I mean learn to play the game… The game design really hasn’t changed in 3 years, it’s ALWAYS been build and class reliant on who will win, skill is a minor factor at most rates as this game was built and designed for casuals.

I don’t know, maybe it’s just my perspective having 2-3 of every class made and geared around PvP and WvW only.

Name all those specs that can counter celestial d/d 1v1 on point then..85% wvsw player

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Mesmer greatsword trick

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Don’t know if most mesmers do this but it’s just part of my muscle memory now.

If you sheath your weapon just after the third tick of damage on your GS auto attack, and then recast the skill, you can cut off the after cast and dramatically increase your dps output. It’s very good for chasing fleeing opponents

Here’s an example of me using the technique in a ranked game:
http://plays.tv/video/55ceba292acc9b1d2d

wow much news, above decent ppl used to do that since like…forever lol

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D/D Ele from a Ele player perspective

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I mean the dragon rank mainly as a way to weed out seriously terrible beginner players who you really can’t expect them to consistently beat anything, therefore you can’t use examples of “oh hey I dd ele’d and beat thiefs all the time” but you’re really only beating people who barely know how to play the class…

and that’s not necessarily true about dragon rank – it’s not that hard to get to but it does require a player to have pvped consistently for quite a while – not always true for new players (who are primarily the ones getting destroyed by classes they’re not familiar with).

but you know what, there’s no point to these forums, I remember why I never read these things now

oh you still anwering? cause i’m done with you and this worthless topic…not gonna waste anymore time on this

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D/D Ele from a Ele player perspective

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Oh, and anyone who still think ele’s are insanely op and/or doesn’t require any skills to play, go roll an Ele. Especially if you’re already got high MMR and/or Dragon rank which matches you up with people who are already at your level when you’re not playing Ele (ie weed out n00b thiefs and other classes who don’t yet know how to use their class).

Come back and let us know your experience.

if you talking about dragon ranks don’t expect ppl to really read what are you writing, any scrub in this game has dragon rank already lmao…on the other hand whoever thinks ele is fine (Or manage to loose 1v1 on point vs any class except maybe celestial nec) should go back to cof p1 as soon as possible cause there’s were he belongs to. Not even asking at what level do you play cause your worthless tryhard to defend celestial eles just speaks for itself i guess.

Not much of a surprise tho that most top players don’t even look at forums when you read stuff like this

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Team Deathmatch as a separate PvP mode, plox

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yeah please, so wvw’ers not able to rotate are gonna stay out of eveyrthing else

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Burning is friggin ridiculous

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skills like judges intervention and cleansing fire need nerfs because they are instand without a tell. zealot’s flame on the other hand… it’s a big blue glowing thing flying towards you… that’s a l2p issue.

that’s zealot’s fire…

ok that you’re an ele and you probably don’t give a kitten to what ppl can throw at you, but at least l2read before posting bs

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zealot's_Flame

“l2p” without even knowing what ppl are talking about..avg forum community lmao

it’s still l2p.. the radius is 180, that’s literally nothing.. walk away from it, guardians don’t have any swiftness on burn guard…

stop trying m8…just stop plz

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skills like judges intervention and cleansing fire need nerfs because they are instand without a tell. zealot’s flame on the other hand… it’s a big blue glowing thing flying towards you… that’s a l2p issue.

that’s zealot’s fire…

ok that you’re an ele and you probably don’t give a kitten to what ppl can throw at you, but at least l2read before posting bs

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zealot's_Flame

“l2p” without even knowing what ppl are talking about..avg forum community lmao

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