Guild Wars 2

I lost! ): ): ): ): ):
Close thread please! The secret is a lie!

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Yes! Haven’t lost a game since I put it on!

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Grill some steaks!
Have a spicerack!
Wield a rolling pin!

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First I’d like Elixir F to not have balls projectile speed and cast time!

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• Nerf Entangle!
• Guardian Sword 2 gives 5 seconds of swiftness, even if you cast it without a target!
• Guardian GS 3 chills for 1 second instead of blind!
• Gadget traits reworked!

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hihey.1075:

ArrDee.2573:

Plus a DD Ele that stays in air attunment just to spam Lightning Whip deals poopy damage even with 25 might and will die! Guaranteed!

Are you joking? At 25 Might stacks, Lighting Whip deals more damage than a lv1 Eviscerate, more damage than a Larcenous Strike, more damage than a Cluster Bomb, only 20% less damage than a Backstab on the back, and close to the same damage as Maul.
And we’re talking about an autoattack.
Of course, all this while healing for 1k HP per second (Soothing Mist+Regeneration+double Signet of Restoration proc).

???? lol
Lightning Whip hits for 700 on the light target golem at 25 might stacks!

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Lol if you think this is ban worthy then you are silly! If this quirk was gamebreaking, then it would probably be patched within a month or two! Maybe 3! Anet is slow like that! (Who remembers the Warrior offhand sword bug and how long it took for that to get fixed!) But this is something extremely minor! You’re not going to see this fixed until the next balance patch in March, April, or even May assuming it even gets patched then! This is how Anet works! I know! I’ve been here since July 2012! Trust me! Plus a DD Ele that stays in air attunment just to spam Lightning Whip deals poopy damage even with 25 might and will die! Guaranteed! Did this issue heavily impact the game where Phantaram and his team nearly 500-0’d the 2nd best team on NA! No! So what’s the issue here other than sons that are in need of getting good!

Elementalists are already pretty overpowdered and nothing is being done until next balance patch! Do you really think they’re going to make changes to this, a tiny speck on the Need To Do list, now! You guys are crazy!

This is the part where I start ranting about the stagnancy of the game, the lack of a competitive scene, the terribleness of conquest mode, and the slow, slow, slow, slow, patch process that Arenanet has but I’m too tired!

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Looks fake to me!

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lol if the game is broken, how can you expect people to not abuse it especially when there are no rules against it! Remember the Mesmer Chaos Storm fall damage bug! Good times!

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ArrDee.2573:

Because there aren’t enough people playing the game! Matchmaking will always be bad if there are no players queueing up! Anet needs to find a way to get more people to play! The first step is to introduce a new game mode! It’s been about 2 and a half years and there’s only one game mode! Conquest should be relegated to hotjoins and the esports aspect of the game should be arenas! You know the game mode where the focus of PvP is actually to PvP and not stand on points all game!

The game is confusing to watch! Anet is pumping out all these ridiculous prize money tournaments for the same team to win over and over again because there is absolutely zero competition in the competitive scene! There are zero upcoming teams who are able to even remotely challenge the top teams, of which there are like only two or three across multiple continents! And then when these tournaments happen, nobody knows what the heck is going on on Twitch.tv! Camera angles aren’t that great and there’s too many effects going on, especially when many people run lots of sustain builds so fights draw on for a long time! This is assuming people even hear about the tournaments! There is very little advertising going on at all!

And then balance patches come out twice per year! That is so bad! So bad! Anet takes so long to do anything! How long have the public been crying out for Skyhammer changes! Over a year! In CS:GO, players had a problem with a map called de_overpass! It was changed within TWO WEEKS! Anet please patch the darn game more often! It is very obvious Celestial Elementalists are too strong! When will they be nerfed! Oh well if you go by the 6 month patch period, we have to wait another 2-3 months! Woop dee freakin doo!

Oh sorry Vee Wee started ranting again! Because there’s nobody playing! That’s your answer! Nobody is playing!

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And here I thought traditional PvP meant arenas where the focus of PvP is actually to PvP and not stand on freakin points all game! I could’ve agreed with that! But apparently traditional PvP to you means a grindfest! No thanks!

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Nope! AED would still be one of the worst heals in the game! Gadgeteer also isn’t that good and definitely not worthy of a grandmaster tier trait! There are so many good traits in the Tools line, Gadgeteer has to get a significant buff to replace either Static Discharge, Power Wrench, or Speedy Kits! Gadget traits in general are just awful which is why I don’t run them in a gadget build! So sad!

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Gadgets need better traits! Gadget traits are just the worst! Vee Wee runs a gadget build sometimes and doesn’t take any gadget traits! Because gadget traits are just the worst! Also Personal Battering Ram needs a buff! Range is too short! AED is also very bad! One of the worst heals in the game! All other gadgets are ok! Slick Shoes might even be too strong! The cooldown should’ve been reduced to 45 seconds but the stunbreak was fine!

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PS Vee Wee supports all gadget buffs! #gadgetmeta2014 #gadgetmeta2015

Because there aren’t enough people playing the game! Matchmaking will always be bad if there are no players queueing up! Anet needs to find a way to get more people to play! The first step is to introduce a new game mode! It’s been about 2 and a half years and there’s only one game mode! Conquest should be relegated to hotjoins and the esports aspect of the game should be arenas! You know the game mode where the focus of PvP is actually to PvP and not stand on points all game!

The game is confusing to watch! Anet is pumping out all these ridiculous prize money tournaments for the same team to win over and over again because there is absolutely zero competition in the competitive scene! There are zero upcoming teams who are able to even remotely challenge the top teams, of which there are like only two or three across multiple continents! And then when these tournaments happen, nobody knows what the heck is going on on Twitch.tv! Camera angles aren’t that great and there’s too many effects going on, especially when many people run lots of sustain builds so fights draw on for a long time! This is assuming people even hear about the tournaments! There is very little advertising going on at all!

And then balance patches come out twice per year! That is so bad! So bad! Anet takes so long to do anything! How long have the public been crying out for Skyhammer changes! Over a year! In CS:GO, players had a problem with a map called de_overpass! It was changed within TWO WEEKS! Anet please patch the darn game more often! It is very obvious Celestial Elementalists are too strong! When will they be nerfed! Oh well if you go by the 6 month patch period, we have to wait another 2-3 months! Woop dee freakin doo!

Oh sorry Vee Wee started ranting again! Because there’s nobody playing! That’s your answer! Nobody is playing!

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Asks for balance changes because of a subpar build that’s tailored for bad players to beat other bad players! Very interesting!

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Hambows get beaten pretty easily as a condi Engi! Vee Wee never had much trouble beating hambows 1v1 even before the adrenaline nerf! The best Warrior build to beat condi Engi with is the new shoutbow meta build! They can hold out forever 1v1 vs a condi Engi and usually win that matchup because 27k+ health and tons of condi removal while dishing out a lot of condi pressure themselves! I believe the trait setup is 10463! Or 01463! Or 00464! Vee Wee isn’t a Warrior player! Better off asking a Warrior main!

Don’t play D/D Thief in PvP! It’s just bad! Compared to WvW, CnD damage is reduced, your overall damage is reduced because of the lowered ferocity, revealed is 4 seconds instead of 3, and there’s not many things to stealth off of as opposed to WvW where there’s just random deer and oakhearts and whatever to CnD! If you want to play Thief, DP and SD Thieves are the way to go! You’ll have a better chance of beating an Engi as an SD Thief rather than DP but it’s not your job to 1v1 an Engi in the first place especially if it’s a bomb Engi which Thieves are really weak to!

If you want to reliably beat a condi Engi, just roll a condi Necro! There is no harder matchup for a condi Engineer than a condi Necro!

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Don’t you mean

Step 1: Pick target!
Step 2: Explode target with condis and fear chains!
Step 3: Make Engis cry!
Step 4: Win game!

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Vee Wee suggested literally almost all of these changes 8 months ago! Nobody listened then! Nobody will listen now! Good luck my frand!

PS Happy New Year frands!

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You forgot buff gadgets!

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Celestial is better for a power focused hybrid! If you wanted to focus more on condi, there’s really no reason to run celestial! You can just run condi stats and be way tankier and dish out more damage! Use rifle!

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ArrDee.2573:

Get good moobs!

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Downed state is for newbs! Get good moobs!

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Celtus.8456:

Did I just watch a video of the ArenaNet devs working on the December PvP update?

jk nice clip

I laughed! Good one!

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If anyone has any questions about the esports play guide, let me know!

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jolllly.1320:

Sins, thanks for the valuable tips on rotations in general. Choosing the next fight feels like my worst skill atm — if I leave home to help mid we get backcapped, if I stay we end up crushed at mid. Whatever decision I make, it feels like the wrong one. Maybe I need to work on rezzing less, and running away from losing fights more

Pay attention to the minimap and the kills display! How many enemy team members can you see! If all 5, then there’s no reason for you to be idle at home ever! Pay attention to who gets stomped on the enemy team! Is it a Thief! They will maybe try to backcap! Is it a bunker Guardian! They probably won’t try to backcap! Also know the respawn timer! It’s 15 seconds! Incoming respawns affect whether or not you should push far! But also know that in any game, bad players will not play rationally! Vee Wee has seen players do crayzee things!

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Hello my frand Novuake! AED is bad! That is my opinion!

Oh do I have to write more! OK! The main issue is its cooldown! Waaay too long! And the toolbelt ability is pretty terrible too! The cast time is too much for a melee ability on a class that should never be on point!

Also gadget traits are just bad! It’s one of the reasons why you’ll never see a viable multi gadget build aside from Vee Wee’s thuper dee duper #gadgetmeta build! But even in that build, Vee Wee doesn’t run any gadget traits because they are so useless!

There is also no reason to use AED because Healing Turret is so good! It’s one of the best heals in the game! It’s like the Necro well heal! It seems ok! High healing + extra sustain + good trait buffs! But why would you ever take that over Consume Conditions! It’s just too good!

As for suggestions, Vee Wee always thought the AED should be a res utility! After all a defibrillator can revive the dead sort of! Maybe the toolbelt could have the Engineer bust out a real defibrillator and apply a buff to a downed person to where if he’s not dead within 5 seconds, he gets rallied! And then you could take the stun and apply it in a small AoE if you take fatal damage while the heal is up! The cooldown needs to be adjusted to 30 seconds at the very least! Also AED should grant a useful boon like protection with Gadgeteer instead of something useless like retal!

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Pick me! I play maybe 3-4 games/week and I am a Berserker Gadget Engi 75% of the time!

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First spirits are infinitely stronger than turrets! They can move! They can trigger their special when they die, which includes reviving people! They grant a passive bonus to their entire team which includes one of the strongest conditions and one of the strongest boons!

Second Turret builds are bad! Asking for Engineers to be toned down because of this terrible build that’s just tailored to slaying other bad players is just jokes! Jokes!

Third comparing two different builds is just silly! It’s like not so good players comparing old Dhuumfire to Incendiary Powder! Foolish!

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Khal Drogo.9631:

really unbalanced pvp ranger in my limited pvp experience opinion.

We’ll take this into consideration! Thank you for posting!

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Hello frands! This is a guide for how to play PvP and also highlights the most esports play you’ll ever see!

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Thanks to Chinese lady, Chaith, Magic Toker, and of course Ostrich Eggs!

Some people enjoy playing boring things! Look at all the WvW players and PvE players! Heck look at all the PvP players!

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Type Guild Warts 2 4ums in browser!
Make post asking what other game there is to play!
You cray dawg!

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Here’s a suggestion! Stop worrying about the leaderboards! They weren’t accurate before so it shouldn’t be a big deal that they’re not accurate now! Let Anet work on something actually important, like bettering the game! Thanks for reading!

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bethekey.8314:

Isn’t this just HGH being played in a meta 2x beyond it? If you want to see better videos of “your” build just look up ostricheggs vods almost a year ago.

HGH fell off because of SD teef and power creep RIP ): But the new Celestial Amulet and the buffs to Elixir B/S makes HGH a better build than it was over a year ago where you had to choose between Rabid or Berserker, or to a lesser extent Carrion, and also deal with the super bad RNG buffs of elixirs! Still not an optimal build though!

Pros: Damage!
Cons: If someone looks at you, u ded!

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My frand Nimrud you can’t really compare the two! Medi Guardians fulfill the role that Thieves do but not as well! It’s a fragile burst build that gets melted by conditions! Meanwhile both hambow and celestial shout Warriors are extremely tanky and can contest the point, stomp downed baddies, revive teammates, and do other things that beefy builds do! If you try to do any of those things as a Meditations Guardian you will asplode! So pick a role! Do you want to be a boring beefcheeser on point, or do you want burst people down with the awesome fiery might of a Medi Guard!

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Hello frands! Vee Wee here, retired #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Hope everybody had a very nice Christmas and other holidays! Hope you got to see all your framily and fands! Vee Wee had a great Christmas! Thanks for asking! New Years is coming up my frands! The holiday season is not over! Let’s all band together my frands and spread love and cheer in the heart of the mists until next year!

For auld lang syne my dear!
For auld lang syne!
We’ll take a cup of kindness yet!
For auld lang syne!

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Every time you make a post, Anet delays an expansion for another month! Let that sink in!

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Sure can my frand Flumek! Whip out an instrument and then press the buttons as I have laid them out for you like a real musician!

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My frand insanemaniac when did I call you or anybody bad! The only people that are bad are the owners of metabattle! I am glad 60440 works out for you and I simply think you could get more out of 60044 and I listed why! That’s all silly bear!

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My frands! In WWI soldiers all over the front stopped slaying each other to celebrate Christmas together! Let us cease this silly hate towards each other or towards matchmaking and the leaderboards and make Guild Warts 2 a frandly place! Vee Wee is a music teacher IRL so here are some Christmas songs for you to play in the Heart of the Mists! Let’s all spread joy and cheer all throughout Guild Warts 2! Wahoo!

These songs work on all instruments except for the bell because the bell is a C major scale but starts in D! To translate songs to the bell, simply move every note one hotkey down! For example if I tell you to play a 5, play a 4 instead! Also I didn’t add anything to show rhythm but I except you know all these songs and can play the correct rhythm! It’s too much work to show eighth notes or half notes and people might not even know what those are!

Key: < means move down an octave! > means move up an octave!

Jingle Bells!
3 3 3
3 3 3
3 5 1 2 3
4 4 4
4 3 3
3 2 2 3 2
5
3 3 3
3 3 3
3 5 1 2 3
4 4 4
4 3 3
3 5 5 4 2 1
5 > 3 2 1 < 5
5 > 3 2 1 < 6
6 > 4 3 2 < 7 >
5 5 4 2 3 <
5 > 3 2 1 < 5
5 > 3 2 1 < 6
6 > 4 3 2 5 5 5
6 5 4 2 1
5
Repeat!

We Wish You A Merry Christmas!
5 8 8 > 2 1 < 7 6 6
6 > 2 2 3 2 1 < 7 5
5 > 3 3 4 3 2 1 < 6
5 5 6 > 2 < 7 8
5 8 8 8 7
7 8 7 6 5 >
2 3 2 1 5 < 5
5 5 6 > 2 < 7 8

Silent Night!
5 6 5 3
5 6 5 3 >
2 2 < 7
8 8 5
6 6 8 7 6 5 6 5 3 >
2 2 4 2 < 7 8 > 3 <
8 5 3 5 4 2 1

Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer!
5 6 5 3 8 6 5
5 6 5 6 5 8 7
4 5 4 2 7 6 5
5 6 5 6 5 > 2 1 <
6 6 8 6 5 3 5
4 6 5 4 3
2 2 5 6 7 7 7
8 8 7 6 5 4 2
5 6 5 3 8 6 5
5 6 5 6 5 8 7
4 5 4 2 7 6 5
5 6 5 6 5 > 2 1

Deck The Halls!
5 4 3 2 1 2 3 1
2 3 4 2 3 2 1 < 7 8 >
5 4 3 2 1 2 3 1
2 3 4 2 3 2 1 < 7 8 >
2 3 4 2 3 4 5 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 7 6 5
5 4 3 2 1 2 3 1
6 6 6 6 5 4 3 2 1

12 Days of Christmas!
5 5 5 8 8 8 7 8 > 2 3 4 2 3
4 5 6 4 3 1 2 1
5 5 5 8 8 8 7 8 > 2 3 4 2 3
5 2 3 4 2 (repeat as many times as you want!)
5 6 4 5 (5 golden rings!)
5 4 3 2 1 (4 calling birds)
4 < 6 8 > (3 french hens)
2 1 < 7 6 5 > (2 turtle doves)
3 4 5 6 4 3 1 2 1 (and a partridge in a pear tree!)

Frosty the Snowman!
5 3 4 5 8
7 8 > 2 1 < 7 6 5
7 8 > 2 1 < 7 6 5 8 3
5 5 4 3 2 1

Oh Christmas Tree!
5 8 8 8 > 2 3 3 3
3 2 3 4 < 7 > 2 1
5 8 8 8 > 2 3 3 3
3 2 3 4 < 7 > 2 1
5 5 3 6
5 5 4 4
4 4 2 5
4 4 3 3
5 8 8 8 > 2 3 3 3
3 2 3 4 < 7 > 2 1

Auld Lang Syne!
5 8 7 8 > 3 2 1 2
3 2 1 1 3 5 6
6 5 3 3
1 2 1 2
3 2 1 < 6 6 5 8 >
6 5 3 3 1 2 1 2
6 5 3 3 5 6
6 5 3 3 1 2 1 2
3 2 1 < 6 6 5 8

Angels, From the Realms of Glory!
3 3 3 3 5 4 3 1
3 3 3 3 5 4 3
3 3 3 3 5 4 3 1
3 3 3 3 5 4 3
5 6 5 4 3 4
5 4 3 2 3
4 3 2 1 2 < 5 >
1 2 3 4 3 2 1

Hark The Herald Angels Sing!
5 8 8
7 8 > 3 3 2
5 5 5 4 3 2 3
5 8 8
7 8 > 3 3 2
5 2 2 1 < 7 6 5 >
5 5 5 1 4 3 3 2
5 5 5 1 4 3 3 2
6 6 6 5 4 3 4
2 3 4 5 1 1 2 3
6 6 6 5 4 3 4
2 3 4 5 1 1 2 1

More to come later maybe!

Enjoy! Wahoo! Bye frands!

PS: For harp users, some notes sound better when they are chords instead of single notes! So if you can for some notes, just play the note 2 hotkeys down at the same time! For example, a 5 note can become a 3+5 chord! A 7 note can become a 5+7 chord! This doesn’t work all the time though because of reasons that involve music theory so if it doesn’t sound right, just play the single note! For example a 7 note, which is a B, might be for a D9 chord (4+7) but if you play 5+7 it’s a G chord and it will sound off if any of you care about music theory! Wahoo!

Narcarsis.5739:

Vee Wee, I have a gift for you when I return home. I will stream the surprise.

:O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O

You are absolutely right my frand Maskaganda!

60440 is inferior to 60044 for a bunch of reasons! First when roaming in a giant open world PvP area, permanent additional 33% movement speed is way superior to permanent 25% movement speed! If you find yourself overwhelmed, it’s probably a guaranteed death if you find yourself relying on just Power Shoes! Also if you find that your opponent is running away, which happens literally every single time, you’ll have that extra move speed to chase him down! Not only that but Speedy Kits is literally half the trait point investment when compared to Power Shoes! Speedy Kits is the clear winner here!

Also many Engineers run Elixir Gun for the added movement bonus that Acid Bomb gives you! Taking 4 in tools resets your stunbreak which is especially useful if you don’t have Protection Injection! Backpack Regenerator should always be taken over Protection Injection or else you’re missing out on all the benefits that celestial healing power grants you! 4 in tools also lowers the cooldown for Elixir Gun’s stunbreak! It’s a win win!

In WvW because of food buffs and the large precision buff you can get from that whatever maintenance oil, you can get away with taking Protection Injection over Invigorating Speed and taking Energy Sigil for your second sigil, the first being Sigil of Battle obviously! Taking this route will help you against the massively boosted ferocity stats that power builds have relative to tPvP! Vee Wee recommends Hiba’s WvW build if you want to go celestial rifle! Vee Wee thinks it’s the best option for a celestial roamer and it doesn’t require weeks of gathering celestial materials for crafted armor!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpdrlcxELseNCbBNyx8GRuxq85IEgkC-T1RHABF8AAaS5HY6AAU9n6UCCwFAgk9HIFAMDjA-w

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60062 hasn’t been used widely since the hambow meta when their heavy CC and general overpowderedness necessitated Protection Injection! With the hambow nerfs literally over half a year ago and the adrenaline changes a few months back, hambows were phased out and the Engi condi meta shifted to where P/P Engineers with Tool Kit and Balthazar Runes are the strongest condi build, though Vee Wee still prefers Adventurer Runes! You can see that from the WTS and ToL2 winners! The only condi Engi winners were 30/10/0/20/10 and not the outdated 30/0/0/30/10! Don’t be so silly my frand witcher! Keep up with the times! Get good at PvP!

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Nice scarf hipster! Where are your thick rimmed glasses!

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Cava.7254:

60440 with energy is also viable btw^^

No… No it is not.

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Hello frands! Vee Wee here, retired #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Well just attack Vee Wee and ignore the fact that even though some Engineers have used the Inventions tree in tournaments none of them won or have even come close to winning! None of them even came close to even consider them doing well for that matter! Prot Injection over Backpack Regenerator! Silly! Scope over Power Wrench! Even sillier! That’s just silliness to the extreme! Why are these even recommended variations! Metabattle is such a great idea! Vee Wee used the PvX wiki all the time in Guild Warts 1! But the difference is is that when Vee Wee used GW1 PvX, the builds were good and the site had admins who knew what they were talking about! A real shame!

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oneply.9586:

ellesee.8297:

Once again metabattle proves it’s an unreliable site for builds! Don’t ever, ever go Inventions! It’s literally the worst trait line that Engineers have and 30/0/20/20/0 is a terrible build! And don’t ever take Protection Injection over Backpack Regenerator or you’ll , and I quote ostrich eggs on this, “die like a little bich”!

umm…metabattle’s 2 build variants both have Regenerator on them…….

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, retired #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

It’s in the variants! I also noticed they recommended Scope over Power Wrench as an alternative! Don’t ever take Scope over Power Wrench! Don’t ever take Scope ever! lol metabattle!

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Get good son!

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There’s a reason why Elementalists have stability and Engineers don’t! Meta Elementalists are tanky support and need stability to stand on point and do supporty things like stomp/revive! Engineers should be on the point as little as possible and therefore don’t need stability! Every bunker/bruiser build like Warrior and Guardian have stability while heavy damage dealing classes like Engineer don’t or use other more useful abilities for their build! Be happy that the Engineer is one of the only classes that have a form of stability on an offensive utility, even if it is subpar!

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Turret Engi is good for beginners because it’s very easy to play! No skill, reaction time, or thought is required to play this build and it’s good for beating other low skilled players and to soak up their tears and hear their cries of overpowderedness! But if you face anyone even remotely competent you will get crushed because it’s an absolutely worthless build! If you want to beat other low tier players, play turret Engi! If you want to get good, play something else that’s easy and actually useful! Warrior, Necro, Ranger are the easiest classes to play! Thief and Mesmer are the hardest in Vee Wee’s opinion!

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