Guild Wars 2

Maybe OP should retitle his thread to

Making Jumping Puzzles only for the deserving [SOLUTION]

Since that is what he is really asking for.

I expect they won’t give mastery points. From what I’ve read, mastery is more like achievements in that you do something and you get a point for it when you do it for the first time.

For example, in one of the previous videos, the char used a stationary gun on a mordrem and a mastery point icon showed on the right hand side of the screen. (She commented on it at that time. It was the one where they showed the jumping mushrooms and gliding).

Imo, the tomes will either be redone to only affect below level 80 and for level 80s they will be like skill point scrolls.

Lol. It took me over 30 minutes to do one vista once. (I used a 30 minute tonic to change shape and the timer ran out before I got it done). The mind is willing but my poor stiff arthritic hands say that I can’t do the harder jumping puzzles and get the reward.

(And I don’t think someone beside me trying to help would do anything as I knew what to do and where to jump on that vista. It’s ability that’s lacking, not knowledge).

Khisanth.2948:

tfcgeneralkmk.9508:

Khisanth.2948:

Astral Projections.7320:

Aidan Savage.2078:

Astral Projections.7320:

Yes, I know that. You didn’t read what I said.

To repeat

Yah. But again, there are no champs in the low level areas. So either OP was in EOTM before playing 10 hours of the game (which is possible but either someone would have to recommend it and show him how to get there by running him to Lion’s Arch and going through the WvW portal, because new accounts can’t access WvW before level 18 or he reached level 18 and immediately went to EOTM and got the exotic in the short time he was there) or he is confused about getting an exotic as a drop

I was making a comment on the unlikelihood that he got an exotic within 10 hours of starting the game as opposed to the more likely possibility that he is confused about what he got,

IIRC, fire ele gives champ boxes, SB gives champ boxes, Caledon’s wurm gives champ boxes, and Maw gives champ boxes. Plus Fire ele’s got the champ steam ogre when a troll guild doesnt roll along and spawn it out of order. Granted, it’s been so long since I’ve done those events on a lower level character that I’m not sure if there’s a level requirement for getting the champ boxes from them. Coincidences aside, it is possible to get a named exotic that early. (And on that note, I know what to do to level my thief… as soon as she’s explored more of the map than just the path from the asura starting instance to the bank level in rata sum)

Of course, he could just as easily be referring to exotic champ loot bags. But since the OP basically abandoned the thread, hard to tell either way.

Yah. I forgot about them. However when I do those boss events on my level 20s and below level 20, I only got items scaled for that level. I suppose they occasionally hand out high level items but I suspect it’s rare.

Wiki says: “Like all loot, there is a high chance to get a loot bag of your level, and a chance to get a loot bag of the champion enemy’s level.” which makes me suspect either the char or the champ need to be high level enough to get an exotic drop, except maybe as a very low chance (which makes me doubtful that OP actually got an exotic within the first 10 hours of playing but confused the item with something else)

As long as the lower level characters still get the champ bags the chances of getting an exotic is actually pretty decent. Much higher than their chances of getting an exotic from a random mob kill anyway.

i’d imagine it would be fairly difficult for a new player to have enough dps to get credit for the event / mob drop in events like that though especially at events like FE / SB etc where a 100 players show up so it upscales to the most difficult version

also on the topic of a personal guild bank if it costs 2g per 1k renown then to get the 2500 you need to buy 6g worth plus 1g for the creation of the guild so it should be around 7g to make a guild bank without doing any events to earn the renown

Getting 150 storage slots from a guild bank is still cheaper than converting enough gold to buy a single bank tab. On the other hand you can’t store account bound stuff in the guild bank.

Add the 4 extra char slots (who can hold account bound items) and you have 128 more slots if they each have the 4 slot starting bags.

I saw that picture and there were 30 less skill points, not just the number that are in WvW. So possibly it’s removed or possibly they just removed items from both the PvE and WvW maps.

I made a Mjölnir so however much that cost me, 1000 gold maybe?

callidus.7085:

Astral Projections.7320:

callidus.7085:

Astral Projections.7320:

Since OP’s proposal would remove people who are at jps and decrease the numbers doing them (removing those who need a portal) shouldn’t he have titled his proposal

Making Jumping puzzle dead again [SOLUTION]

I Suugestion OP go back and edit his title to make it more correct.

It wouldn’t reduce the number of people doing them. It would reduce the number of people camping at the end.. and the number of people taking portals to just get to the end. It WOULD however give people incentive to do it legitimately if the rewards were appropriate. That’s what I’d personally like to see.

If there are 3 groups of people at a JP and the solution removes 2 groups then imo, it would reduce the number of people doing the puzzle.

if there are 3 groups of people.. at the END of the JP.. people that do the JP, people that park there and people that get portaled there… There are 2 groups of people that don’t deserve to be there… imo. Because only that one group that actually DID the puzzle can be said to have been “doing the puzzle”.

Oooohh, so this is about who deserves to do the puzzle, not making the puzzle alive as the title said.

Strange, I could have sworn this game was about cooperation and helping others out. I have no idea where I got such a silly notion. Thanks for clearing this little misconception up for me.

callidus.7085:

Astral Projections.7320:

Since OP’s proposal would remove people who are at jps and decrease the numbers doing them (removing those who need a portal) shouldn’t he have titled his proposal

Making Jumping puzzle dead again [SOLUTION]

I Suugestion OP go back and edit his title to make it more correct.

It wouldn’t reduce the number of people doing them. It would reduce the number of people camping at the end.. and the number of people taking portals to just get to the end. It WOULD however give people incentive to do it legitimately if the rewards were appropriate. That’s what I’d personally like to see.

If there are 3 groups of people at a JP and the solution removes 2 groups then imo, it would reduce the number of people doing the puzzle.

Since OP’s proposal would remove people who are at jps and decrease the numbers doing them (removing those who need a portal) shouldn’t he have titled his proposal

Making Jumping puzzle dead again [SOLUTION]

I Suugestion OP go back and edit his title to make it more correct.

Aidan Savage.2078:

Astral Projections.7320:

Yes, I know that. You didn’t read what I said.

To repeat

Yah. But again, there are no champs in the low level areas. So either OP was in EOTM before playing 10 hours of the game (which is possible but either someone would have to recommend it and show him how to get there by running him to Lion’s Arch and going through the WvW portal, because new accounts can’t access WvW before level 18 or he reached level 18 and immediately went to EOTM and got the exotic in the short time he was there) or he is confused about getting an exotic as a drop

I was making a comment on the unlikelihood that he got an exotic within 10 hours of starting the game as opposed to the more likely possibility that he is confused about what he got,

IIRC, fire ele gives champ boxes, SB gives champ boxes, Caledon’s wurm gives champ boxes, and Maw gives champ boxes. Plus Fire ele’s got the champ steam ogre when a troll guild doesnt roll along and spawn it out of order. Granted, it’s been so long since I’ve done those events on a lower level character that I’m not sure if there’s a level requirement for getting the champ boxes from them. Coincidences aside, it is possible to get a named exotic that early. (And on that note, I know what to do to level my thief… as soon as she’s explored more of the map than just the path from the asura starting instance to the bank level in rata sum)

Of course, he could just as easily be referring to exotic champ loot bags. But since the OP basically abandoned the thread, hard to tell either way.

Yah. I forgot about them. However when I do those boss events on my level 20s and below level 20, I only got items scaled for that level. I suppose they occasionally hand out high level items but I suspect it’s rare.

Wiki says: “Like all loot, there is a high chance to get a loot bag of your level, and a chance to get a loot bag of the champion enemy’s level.” which makes me suspect either the char or the champ need to be high level enough to get an exotic drop, except maybe as a very low chance (which makes me doubtful that OP actually got an exotic within the first 10 hours of playing but confused the item with something else)

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Celtic Lady.3729:

If someone in chat is claiming to be an Anet developer should that be reported? If so, under what heading?

As to whether to report. It’s my understanding that falsely claiming to be an ANet employee results in a ban.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/
5. You may not impersonate any employee of ArenaNet Inc., NC Interactive, Inc., NCsoft Corporation or their affiliates, or impersonate any other person (including, without limitation, celebrities).

Lorgus.6148:

Aphex.9782:

Poison/Bleed: Completely overpowered imho. Get poisoned by 2 mobs = dead.

Poison is overpowered? Most of the forum would disagree with you.
And if you’re having trouble with PvE in the open world I would suggest staying out of dungeons…

Maybe he is talking about the Hylek poison darts, in Sparkfly. Those things will kill you if you don’t know how to deal with them. The bleeds they apply last a long time. (Possibly they are bugged. They seem stronger on that map then other maps).

IndigoSundown.5419:

Essence Snow.3194:

I see the same faulty premise time and time again, that winning is confined to one objective only. Winning it completely dependent on the goal at hand. If the goal is building a better sandcastle, then tools that help achieve such, help in winning. If the goal is to knock out an opponent, then brass knuckles help in winning. If the goal finishing an achievement, then ofc anything that aided in such helped to win. It’s very simple logic.

To be replaced with your faulty premise that all competitive play is now being compressed into a single objective? Pay-to-win should be reserved to subjects that involve competitive play. As such, it should be reserved for things which can be purchased that provide a numerical advantage.

Pay-to-win is a term that has a stigma in western gaming culture. Those seeking to expand the definition to encompass anything they dislike about a game’s payment options are seeking to use that stigma to shame the developer into removing any and all for-cash options they dislike.

As to "simple logic,’ the logical extension of a process by which more and more pay options get stigmatized is that any optional payment features put in by a developer will be pay-to-win.

Dislike gems —> gold all you like. However, in changing the definition of a pejorative term to suit your point because the term is a bugaboo, all you’re doing is distracting the discussion from the real issues.

^

I’m stealing this quote for the next time someone pulls out the p2w card.

Lorgus.6148:

Demon Lord.6149:

can we please get rid of transmutation point system all together? it is so annoying having to buy these every time i want to change my look. changing my appearance should be of no cost. specially when i have bought a skin from gem store and have to continue to buy these lame points in order to use my skin each time i get a new piece of gear. am i seriously the only one complaining about this?

PvP is an easy way to get more transmutation charges. Also I believe in the past doing map completion rewarded you with crystals, not sure if that remains true in the new system though.

It does. You either get a T charge or a key, but from my experience the T charge is more likely.

I just checked. Copper ore was 63c and now it’s 61c. (Since OP didn’t say what was skyrocketing, I’m free to assume he meant any item on the trading post I wish to check).

I didn’t break the forum, he did———-> (points to next poster).

I wonder what it looks like on female Asura and Charr though. They might have to wear the male version which is a male Mesmer themed jacket and pants.

Kronos.2560:

A while back I also suggested perhaps an unlimited transmutation stone. Sell them for x many gems, they get their money and we can put this dumb system behind us. Either that or I agree with you to get rid of the whole system.

I would be very interested in such an item. What I’m afraid ANet would do though is make them a rare drop from a black lion chest, such as the permanent banker, hair stylist, etc… Which are less than 1:1000 drop rate for some of those items.

Cerbeius.7129:

They told us the duration of the Ram Festival would be two weeks.

It’s not in the original game release notes. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-February-10-2015/first#post481190 Can you give us a link to that post?

edgarallanpwn.8739:

Mo Mo.1947:

edgarallanpwn.8739:

However that doesn’t change the fact you spewed the “you can dismiss the value of everything except tickets” statement.

But you really CAN dismiss the value of everything except tickets because the rest is just scattered random loot. You CAN get scattered random loot from doing many things in game that AREN’T key farming, but you CAN’T get claim tickets from doing many things in the game.

The value of the random non-ticket items you get are essentially no more valuable than the random items you get from doing most anything in the game.

Astral Projections.7320:

If someone hand you a piece of junk and claims it’s worth X gold/dollars, is it worth X gold/dollars or is it still a piece of junk.

See Astral Projection’s full post for an analysis I agree with on the low value of black lion goods that aligns with the idea that the random non-ticket items are all insignificant profit-wise.

If this were entirely true, then even if the market was over flooded, the price of a 1ticket skins wouldn’t drop to 1/3rd the “supposed” value by your calculations. It’s not exactly like theres an overflow of skins currently. why is this then?

If theres a direct real value to it, then the varying value farmed by other methods shouldn’t change so drastically.

there’s some “skin favorism” based on the wepaon, but the fluctuation is still high outside of that.

I said the buyer of keys with real money should value them at my calculated price. That doesn’t mean that they do value them at that price. Either they are valuing them lower than they should or the key farmers who don’t need to value them as high to make a profit are lowering the prices.

(Since I don’t buy keys with real money then I am free to put a lower price on the skins as the only thing I’m spending is my time. In actuality, I value the skins higher and hold them for months until they reach a price I like. There are always those who want to get their money now and not wait, so they sell earlier, at a lower price).

Asura are intelligent but lack common sense (as shown by their multiple failed experiments where something blows up or someone gets killed).

Aidan Savage.2078:

Astral Projections.7320:

Khisanth.2948:

Astral Projections.7320:

kuittaa.7360:

Obtena.7952:

Astral Projections.7320:

He got exotic gear within the first 10 hours of playing??? Is that even possible? As far as I know that doesn’t drop until about level 65.

No it’s not.

It actually is possible to get level 80 exotics while being low-level. I took my level 2X (used insta-level-20 scroll, don’t remember exact level, maybe 22 or 23) to EoTM and got an exotic rifle, Exterminator, within first 30 minutes of playing. I’m pretty sure it was from champion box. My guildfriend was astonished and so was I, since I thought it wasn’t possible.

You’re upleveled to level 80 aren’t you in there? If so, then the game is treating you like a level 80 and giving you level 80 drops. Which is not the same as getting an exotic on a low level char. I was assuming that a guy who has only played 10 hours doesn’t know about the EOTM and is still playing in the starter zone, and claiming he got an exotic.

As long as they can manage to get a champ box within those hours and have enough luck they could get one. The champ box specific exotics ignore character level. People were getting them on their low level characters back when the QD champ train was still around.

Yah. But again, there are no champs in the low level areas. So either OP was in EOTM before playing 10 hours of the game (which is possible but either someone would have to recommend it and show him how to get there by running him to Lion’s Arch and going through the WvW portal, because new accounts can’t access WvW before level 18 or he reached level 18 and immediately went to EOTM and got the exotic in the short time he was there) or he is confused about getting an exotic as a drop.

Incorrect. Back when the weeniedale train was a thing, as long as you got an exotic champ bag off one of them, you CAN get the Named Exotics out of the bag regardless of your level, which was how I got my hands on a Cobalt the first time. Was the highest selling item I ever had at that point as well.

Yes, I know that. You didn’t read what I said.

To repeat

Yah. But again, there are no champs in the low level areas. So either OP was in EOTM before playing 10 hours of the game (which is possible but either someone would have to recommend it and show him how to get there by running him to Lion’s Arch and going through the WvW portal, because new accounts can’t access WvW before level 18 or he reached level 18 and immediately went to EOTM and got the exotic in the short time he was there) or he is confused about getting an exotic as a drop

I was making a comment on the unlikelihood that he got an exotic within 10 hours of starting the game as opposed to the more likely possibility that he is confused about what he got,

Things that have essentially zero percent chance can be ignored.

Now for the other items, account bound items, how do you value them, at ANet’s value or the value that you yourself put on them?

If I would never buy the item, then no matter what ANet claims it’s worth, I value it at zero. My opinion of what something I get for free (no out of pocket cost) is worth is how I should price it for my evaluation, not someone else’s (ANet’s) value. I don’t buy these items because I value them less than ANet’s price.

Boosters: I have a bunch of them and the reason why I have so many is because i don’t value them enough to use them. Low value. Maybe a silver.
Revive orbs: low value. Maybe the cost of the nearest waypoint. 1 to 2 silver
Trading post: If I need to go to one I waypoint for free to PvP or WvW. Zero value
Merchant: same as above
Crafting bags: rare drop, of value but when divided by the number of keys it needs to get even one, low value.
Various dye kits: rare drop. Valuable dye inside: rare drop. So it’s a rare drop times a rare drop. Low value.
Tomes of knowledge: rare. Low value. I get more from dailies and PvP.
Box of fun: zero value to me. I have these and don’t use.
Primers: same as box of fun. Have some, don’t bother to use. Low to zero value to me.
Key: low drop. Some value
Black lion kit: wouldn’t buy. I get these from daily or use a mystic kit if I don’t have. Low value.

If someone hand you a piece of junk and claims it’s worth X gold/dollars, is it worth X gold/dollars or is it still a piece of junk.

Khisanth.2948:

Astral Projections.7320:

kuittaa.7360:

Obtena.7952:

Astral Projections.7320:

He got exotic gear within the first 10 hours of playing??? Is that even possible? As far as I know that doesn’t drop until about level 65.

No it’s not.

It actually is possible to get level 80 exotics while being low-level. I took my level 2X (used insta-level-20 scroll, don’t remember exact level, maybe 22 or 23) to EoTM and got an exotic rifle, Exterminator, within first 30 minutes of playing. I’m pretty sure it was from champion box. My guildfriend was astonished and so was I, since I thought it wasn’t possible.

You’re upleveled to level 80 aren’t you in there? If so, then the game is treating you like a level 80 and giving you level 80 drops. Which is not the same as getting an exotic on a low level char. I was assuming that a guy who has only played 10 hours doesn’t know about the EOTM and is still playing in the starter zone, and claiming he got an exotic.

As long as they can manage to get a champ box within those hours and have enough luck they could get one. The champ box specific exotics ignore character level. People were getting them on their low level characters back when the QD champ train was still around.

Yah. But again, there are no champs in the low level areas. So either OP was in EOTM before playing 10 hours of the game (which is possible but either someone would have to recommend it and show him how to get there by running him to Lion’s Arch and going through the WvW portal, because new accounts can’t access WvW before level 18 or he reached level 18 and immediately went to EOTM and got the exotic in the short time he was there) or he is confused about getting an exotic as a drop.

Me. I’m the one who decides what breaks immersion. Send your complaints to me and I will put then in their proper file, alongside the p2w arguments.

HandOfKane.5409:

Vayne.8563:

I think that people who hate it really hate it…but I think their feelings about it make them believe they’re greater in number than they are (just my opinion here). In other words they dislike it so much that they can’t conceive of that not being the most common reaction.

It’s your only hope.

Astral Projections.7320:

Or is it, while leveling, chars get powerful in chunks and not dribbles, then maybe it causes problems while leveling? Is that what you are saying?

Yes.

Yeah, that is a problem. I haven’t leveled a char enough to encounter it so I only know what I’ve read on the forum. Why ANet did it this way instead of a more steady stat increase is anyone’s guess. I would think the steady increase would be more rewarding then the current system.

Malkavian.4516:

@Astral Projections I assume your friend’s logic towards this game is that if your character doesn’t look fabulous enough, your practically a loser? That’s more like “pay to look pretty” than an actual win unless he aims to have his character be in a Tyrian equivalent of Vogue magazine.

Well, I wouldn’t call someone who I don’t remember and who my main reaction to his argument was “you’ve got to be kidding”, a friend but yes, if you don’t buy the gem store items to complete a look you want then you lost. (At least that’s what I think he was arguing. By the end of the discussion my brain was fried and shorting out from dealing with multiple hits of illogical statements).

kuittaa.7360:

Obtena.7952:

Astral Projections.7320:

He got exotic gear within the first 10 hours of playing??? Is that even possible? As far as I know that doesn’t drop until about level 65.

No it’s not.

It actually is possible to get level 80 exotics while being low-level. I took my level 2X (used insta-level-20 scroll, don’t remember exact level, maybe 22 or 23) to EoTM and got an exotic rifle, Exterminator, within first 30 minutes of playing. I’m pretty sure it was from champion box. My guildfriend was astonished and so was I, since I thought it wasn’t possible.

You’re upleveled to level 80 aren’t you in there? If so, then the game is treating you like a level 80 and giving you level 80 drops. Which is not the same as getting an exotic on a low level char. I was assuming that a guy who has only played 10 hours doesn’t know about the EOTM and is still playing in the starter zone, and claiming he got an exotic.

@edgarallanpwn.8739:
“You also forgot to factor in the gem value of all the account bound stuff, chance of contracts, dyes and their worths, etc.”

Contacts? Contracts??

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(Wipes tears of mirth from eyes) You mean those drop that are so rare that you can do 1000 key runs and not see one? That’s like winning the lottery. I’m not going to calculate that in.

Account bound items? I assign zero value to the price of a weapon skin that I’m planning to sell.

So, what else do I get. Dyes? Occasionally I’ll get one. 30 silver. Minis? Same. One gold. Ummm, anything else. Not normally.

Ok, in one set of 35 runs, maybe (maybe) I’ll get one mini and 3 unidentified dyes (I’m making a generous guess here). We’ll say 2 gold.

So, subtract 2 gold from my calculated price of 256.66 gold to get 254.66 gold.

There, is that better?

azizul.8469:

i still do not understand how owning a skin is considered a “win” …. win what ? beauty contest ? there is no such competition in the game….

I had a long discussion with one guy who insisted that Guild Wars 2 was p2w because you could buy cosmetic items from the gem store. His argument, as I understood it, was that this game was based on cosmetics. Being able to buy the look you want from the gem store meant you won over people who also wanted that look but couldn’t afford to buy it. (I’m repeating his argument here, not trying to make sense of it). He’s not the only one I’ve seen come up with this argument though.

edgarallanpwn.8739:

Astral Projections.7320:

Ok, my calculations on what weapon skins are worth if they are bought with real world money then sold on the trading post.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Black_Lion_Chest/Drop_rate
The current scrap drop rate is 0.289% which means on average it takes 34.6 keys to get 10 scraps. (We will say 35, I’m waving off the more rare chance to get a full ticket).

25 keys sell for $26.35€/2100 gems so 35 keys is 36.89$ or 2940 gems

Currently 100 gems sell for 8.73 gold which means 2940 gems is worth 256.66 gold.

Now a rational consumer would check the value of the gems he had to use to get one weapon skin and conclude that the starting price for a weapon right now should be 256.66 gold, which is what he would have gotten if he sold the gems he bought directly instead of converting them to keys first.

Starting prices for one ticket weapons are 60 to 90 gold, which means either that there are a lot of people not checking the value of the gems they converted to keys (a distinct possibility) or key farmers are pulling down prices.

You also forgot to factor in the gem value of all the account bound stuff, chance of contracts, dyes and their worths, etc.

The prices of keys is not directly related to black lion tickets so that price is false too. You would need to to take the % of black lion ticket drops, factor that into how many keys on average it would take to get that many tickets, then choose the cost based on that percentage, because that’s its net worth.

It doesn’t matter if that’s the only way to get them, and that statement would only be true if the only item that came out of them would be ticket scraps, or whole tickets.

You missed the most important factor there.

Redo the math again

Since the regular argument I’ve seen is that the “what you get from the chests is worthless” that means that people assign zero value to these items and don’t calculate their worth when deciding how much a weapon skin should sell for.

As to percent of black lion ticket drops, I used the listed percent on that site, 0.289% chance of getting a scrap from one key use.

Ayrilana.1396:

Exactly what are you winning by buying gems and converting to gold?

In this case, win the argument with all the people who endlessly argue that Guild Wars 2 is p2w because you can (various posts I’ve seen on the forum)
1) buy bank slots with gold
2) buy cosmetic items from the gem store with gold
3) buy anything at all in the trading post with gold

Ok, my calculations on what weapon skins are worth if they are bought with real world money then sold on the trading post.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Black_Lion_Chest/Drop_rate
The current scrap drop rate is 0.289% which means on average it takes 34.6 keys to get 10 scraps. (We will say 35, I’m waving off the more rare chance to get a full ticket).

25 keys sell for $26.35€/2100 gems so 35 keys is 36.89$ or 2940 gems

Currently 100 gems sell for 8.73 gold which means 2940 gems is worth 256.66 gold.

Now a rational consumer would check the value of the gems he had to use to get one weapon skin and conclude that the starting price for a weapon right now should be 256.66 gold, which is what he would have gotten if he sold the gems he bought directly instead of converting them to keys first.

Starting prices for one ticket weapons are 60 to 90 gold, which means either that there are a lot of people not checking the value of the gems they converted to keys (a distinct possibility) or key farmers are pulling down prices.

Electro.4173:

Paradox.1380:

Don’t know if anyone has noticed but those wings are suspiciously taken to the Raiment of the Lich Costume’s wings from GW1. They split the wings from the costume double the profits! =D Still getting them by the way.

I suppose that’s one way to look at it. The other way, however, would be that if they were part of the outfit then you couldn’t use them with anything else. This way, as a standalone back item, you can mix them with anything you want.

It’s also very possible that the game isn’t set up for outfits to override existing backpieces, which means there would be people with wings and another backpiece at the same time. So either they couldn’t override the other backpieces or they made them separate to respect the wishes of those who want to use another backpiece with the Lich outfit and those who want to wear the wings with their armor.

edgarallanpwn.8739:

Astral Projections.7320:

edgarallanpwn.8739:

Astral Projections.7320:

edgarallanpwn.8739:

Astral Projections.7320:

I do the occasional key farm. If I have sufficient tomes and writs (which take days to get) then I can level to 10, usually I can use this method only once every few days. Otherwise I usually regular level to level 7 (typically takes me about 35 minutes) then I use crafting to get to level 10. After that I can run the key farm.

My typical reward is normally an account bound booster, and 2 account bound gem store items such as a bank access or a trading post access. Rarely I might get a mini worth a gold or an unidentified dye or a ticket scrap (I need 10 of these).

Compare that to a dungeon runner who runs one dungeon path and after 15 minutes he gets a gold plus drops plus tokens he can trade in for account bound exotics when he gets enough.

Now true, after I’ve run sufficient key runs, about 25 to 40 depending on RNG, I’ll have a ticket with which I can buy a weapon skin. I can sell it then for maybe 60 to 90 gold or I can hold it for 6 months and pray it goes up in value.

this is quite saddening.

As a new player i have already found these to be useless. I once looked at them like they might be something cool, but even then playing casually i have amde almost 175g in a week through drops and dungeon runs., while gearing up.

Might as well enjoy the gam and just buy a skin that hating myself and trying to farm for one

Actually I find it a soothing and relaxing thing to do after doing a hectic Silverwastes or as a change of pace from what I usually do.

Different people like different things you know. For example there is a thread right now on fishing, that sounds to me like the most boring thing to do. But those people enjoy it and want it.

You shouldn’t assume that people are doing stuff they hate.

Either way, having to exploit the system because its the most reliable way to get keys isn’t healthy gameplay at all. The game should reward you for regular gameplay, not for leveling a character to 10, deleting, and repeating.

This takes up a character slot(which i actually would like to play most classes at some point), and forces me to do something beyond repetition,

Do something beyond recognition? Like run dungeons repeatedly? Is pouring money into the game by running dungeons and causing inflation also healthy? ^^

If ANet felt like key running wasn’t healthy gameplay, they could stop it in one second by removing the key from the level 10 story yet in almost 3 years, they haven’t. So maybe it’s not as unhealthy as you think, since ANet doesn’t agree with you.

I wouldn’t run keys if black lion skins weren’t locked inside an RNG box where the cost of getting a skin by direct purchase is both unreasonably high and variable. I would much prefer to buy them from the gem store for a direct, reasonable price. Since I refuse to buy keys then this is my, and others, answer to the way to the way they sell them.

If you then say, buy them from the trading post, I then point out to you that at this point they cost about 60 to 90 gold to buy and that’s with people like me running keys and keeping the prices low. If we weren’t doing this the price for these skins in the trading post would be higher. It’s people like me who bring the prices down to the levels they are, a mere 60 to 90 gold for one weapon. Every time you buy a black lion weapon skin from the trading post, you should thank the key runners for keeping the prices so low and not the price they would be without us.

Depends what you mean by low. Some of the 7ticket bl are near 1000g. that’s practically a legendary.

How often do the tickets come on average? we would need statistics from anet to prove that those prices are “low” on average. And if the markets low, its because its being flooded by people who farm it in this way, which may be making anet thinking its ok, as opposed to there being a lack of black lion skins, which might suggest the system isn’t working.

So you guy are applying an around the back bandaid, instead of fixing the real problem, which would be changing the way we get keys in game to revolve around regular playing with your characters, not having to remake a character over and over.

You can’t apply the prices of the non one ticket skins. The one ticket skins are the ones brought down by key runners. The reason why the 7 ticket skins are so high is because people, including key runners, don’t convert ticket to those skins frequently enough to bring the prices down. At 1000 gold a skin, you’re getting a glimpse at what prices would be like at start for weapons, if there weren’t key runners.

As to applying a band aid to an ANet caused problem, yes. But that’s up to ANet to fix if they think it needs one.

edgarallanpwn.8739:

Astral Projections.7320:

edgarallanpwn.8739:

Astral Projections.7320:

I do the occasional key farm. If I have sufficient tomes and writs (which take days to get) then I can level to 10, usually I can use this method only once every few days. Otherwise I usually regular level to level 7 (typically takes me about 35 minutes) then I use crafting to get to level 10. After that I can run the key farm.

My typical reward is normally an account bound booster, and 2 account bound gem store items such as a bank access or a trading post access. Rarely I might get a mini worth a gold or an unidentified dye or a ticket scrap (I need 10 of these).

Compare that to a dungeon runner who runs one dungeon path and after 15 minutes he gets a gold plus drops plus tokens he can trade in for account bound exotics when he gets enough.

Now true, after I’ve run sufficient key runs, about 25 to 40 depending on RNG, I’ll have a ticket with which I can buy a weapon skin. I can sell it then for maybe 60 to 90 gold or I can hold it for 6 months and pray it goes up in value.

this is quite saddening.

As a new player i have already found these to be useless. I once looked at them like they might be something cool, but even then playing casually i have amde almost 175g in a week through drops and dungeon runs., while gearing up.

Might as well enjoy the gam and just buy a skin that hating myself and trying to farm for one

Actually I find it a soothing and relaxing thing to do after doing a hectic Silverwastes or as a change of pace from what I usually do.

Different people like different things you know. For example there is a thread right now on fishing, that sounds to me like the most boring thing to do. But those people enjoy it and want it.

You shouldn’t assume that people are doing stuff they hate.

Either way, having to exploit the system because its the most reliable way to get keys isn’t healthy gameplay at all. The game should reward you for regular gameplay, not for leveling a character to 10, deleting, and repeating.

This takes up a character slot(which i actually would like to play most classes at some point), and forces me to do something beyond repetition,

Do something beyond recognition? Like run dungeons repeatedly? Is pouring money into the game by running dungeons and causing inflation also healthy? ^^

If ANet felt like key running wasn’t healthy gameplay, they could stop it in one second by removing the key from the level 10 story yet in almost 3 years, they haven’t. So maybe it’s not as unhealthy as you think, since ANet doesn’t agree with you.

I wouldn’t run keys if black lion skins weren’t locked inside an RNG box where the cost of getting a skin by direct purchase is both unreasonably high and variable. I would much prefer to buy them from the gem store for a direct, reasonable price. Since I refuse to buy keys then this is my, and others, answer to the way to the way ANet sells them.

If you then say, buy them from the trading post, I then point out to you that at this point they cost about 60 to 90 gold to buy and that’s with people like me running keys and keeping the prices low. If we weren’t doing this the price for these skins in the trading post would be higher. It’s people like me who bring the prices down to the levels they are, a mere 60 to 90 gold for one weapon. Every time you buy a black lion weapon skin from the trading post, you should thank the key runners for keeping the prices so low and not the price they would be without us.

My warrior in Guild Wars 1 had the armor with the Charr skull as a helm. What a shame she didn’t put it in her Hall of Monuments for her descendants to wear.

Shadow of Azrael.1205:

Time to swap out holo wings, yay!

That looks really good.

maddoctor.2738:

Astral Projections.7320:

I used to love the event dailies. I always did them in the past. With the new system I’ve been getting more and more unpleasured by them. The last couple of days the very thought of doing them with the other level 80s was so unpleasant that I’ve started skipping them and doing something else.

The only daily events I do nowadays are those in World Boss zones. Usually World Bosses have enough pre-events for the daily, and if not, since people are just waiting for the World Boss to spawn, other events are easier to find and do. Less competition for event participation.

For zones without a World Boss? Tough luck

There are some event chains that can let you finish a daily on their own and it’s good to wait for them instead of running around. For example, the event chain with the Bears in Wayfarer Foothills (the one that starts with dolyak meat and ends with a bear invasion) is a 100% chance to finish the daily without porting around the zone. Of course doing the daily this way is only possible with good knowledge of the zone events.

I skipped them yesterday and today I looked at the list. Brisbane. I thought, “bleh” and went off to do other stuff. Later some guildies were on that map for ages. I asked them what they were doing and they said events. I was like, huh? Events there? I had, for the first time since the game started, completely put the daily events out of my mind, like finally breaking a bad habit. And it felt good.

I used to love the event dailies. I always did them in the past. With the new system I’ve been getting more and more unpleasured by them. The last couple of days the very thought of doing them with the other level 80s was so unpleasant that I’ve started skipping them and doing something else.

edgarallanpwn.8739:

Astral Projections.7320:

I do the occasional key farm. If I have sufficient tomes and writs (which take days to get) then I can level to 10, usually I can use this method only once every few days. Otherwise I usually regular level to level 7 (typically takes me about 35 minutes) then I use crafting to get to level 10. After that I can run the key farm.

My typical reward is normally an account bound booster, and 2 account bound gem store items such as a bank access or a trading post access. Rarely I might get a mini worth a gold or an unidentified dye or a ticket scrap (I need 10 of these).

Compare that to a dungeon runner who runs one dungeon path and after 15 minutes he gets a gold plus drops plus tokens he can trade in for account bound exotics when he gets enough.

Now true, after I’ve run sufficient key runs, about 25 to 40 depending on RNG, I’ll have a ticket with which I can buy a weapon skin. I can sell it then for maybe 60 to 90 gold or I can hold it for 6 months and pray it goes up in value.

this is quite saddening.

As a new player i have already found these to be useless. I once looked at them like they might be something cool, but even then playing casually i have amde almost 175g in a week through drops and dungeon runs., while gearing up.

Might as well enjoy the gam and just buy a skin that hating myself and trying to farm for one

Actually I find it a soothing and relaxing thing to do after doing a hectic Silverwastes or as a change of pace from what I usually do.

Different people like different things you know. For example there is a thread right now on fishing, that sounds to me like the most boring thing to do. But those people enjoy it and want it.

You shouldn’t assume that people are doing stuff they hate.

If you are trying to get to an uncontested temple to buy karma items, then guesting can put you on different maps where that temple might be open.

Khisanth.2948:

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Khisanth.2948:

Astral Projections.7320:

I read that they tried to put it in game but when the inventory filled up and the game tried to put more in, the character couldn’t move until they cleared out the inventory. Which can cause some problems in areas such as WvW.

That was actually removed a while ago.

What was removed? You still can’t get auto loot the way OP wants.

The “couldn’t move with a full inventory” thing. At least it was like that a couple of days ago(before the last patch).

I’m talking about back in 2013 when they tried to set up auto loot where it went into your inventory automatically like OP is suggesting, without using the auto-loot key. There was a glitch they couldn’t get around that if your inventory was full and the game tried to put more loot in there automatically, you would abruptly either slow down or be unable to move until you emptied enough items for the auto loot to finish.

Aidan Savage.2078:

shifted.4086:

Fyrebrand.4859:

shifted.4086:

It’s all loot boxes and legendary gear from boxes that I can open without them depending on my level.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means…

My bad, I mean exotic.

Like mentioned earlier, stop hoarding. You should be selling those exotics if they’re worth a couple gold or more (or salvaging for the rune/sigil since that’s often why certain exotics sell for their high prices), or salvaging those exotics if they sell for less than a gold (getting ectos makes a profit). I mean, I hate to say it, but you’re really getting antsy over something blown out of proportions.

Additionally, create a guild bank as suggested. The cost for fully opening the guild bank capacity with gold-bought influence is probably the same cost as 1-2 bank tabs, and gives 8 times or so the storage.

edit: and you CAN get exotic gear on sub-65 characters, even on a level 1. Named exotics, remember?

If he’s gotten an exotic after less than 10 hours of playing then he’s got to be the luckiest player alive. My first exotic was a drop on my level 80 in Orr after I had been playing for several months. I leveled 9 chars to 80 and never once got an exotic while leveling other than from higher level map completion.

Tachyon.5897:

shifted.4086:

I paid $40 for this game. Bank space is NOT a luxury. Maybe the 4th or 5th “tab” would start to become optional, but one is NOT enough AT ALL. I should easily have 3x as much bank space by default or it should be easily unlockable via a few gold or level gating.

Now I’m not going to spend a dime on your cash shop just because I feel like you’re greedy.

And don’t even try to post that you can get it for free. You’d have to drop >100g or 5k achievement points on ONE extra tab. That’s a lot of playtime- it’d feel good to put it towards something fun. Instead you need a bank tab so you can stop using your character slots for storage space.

One tab is frankly bullkitten. Don’t charge me $40 for a game then demand I drop another $10 to be able to store a tiny fraction of the stuff I get in the first 10 hours of play.

Why not do what I did and start your own one man storage guild? Just create the Guild, build a Guild Vault, et voilà 50 extra storage spaces straight away.

Well, not exactly

It costs one gold to start now and..

“Tier-1 (Guild Stash) gives 50-slots, requires 2500 influence and about one and a half weeks.”

So he will need to either play enough to get 2500 influence or buy it at a cost of 2 gold per 1000 then he can start the one and one-half weeks build time.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/User:1Maven/Personal_Guild_%26_Bank_Vault#Cost_.2F_Benefit_vs._Account_Bank
“However, the easiest and fastest, but expensive way is to buy the required Guild influence is from the Guild Promoter, a NPC vendor found in every city usually near the Guild Bank NPC. Each 1,000 influence costs 2 Gold.”

I do the occasional key farm. If I have sufficient tomes and writs (which take days to get) then I can level to 10, usually I can use this method only once every few days. Otherwise I usually regular level to level 7 (typically takes me about 35 minutes) then I use crafting to get to level 10. After that I can run the key farm.

My typical reward is normally an account bound booster, and 2 account bound gem store items such as a bank access or a trading post access. Rarely I might get a mini worth a gold or an unidentified dye or a ticket scrap (I need 10 of these).

Compare that to a dungeon runner who runs one dungeon path and after 15 minutes he gets a gold plus drops plus tokens he can trade in for account bound exotics when he gets enough.

Now true, after I’ve run sufficient key runs, about 25 to 40 depending on RNG, I’ll have a ticket with which I can buy a weapon skin. I can sell it then for maybe 60 to 90 gold or I can hold it for 6 months and pray it goes up in value.

For some reason ANet has stopped putting in relevant information like stop dates on all its game updates and this causes people to be caught with various holiday tokens. All I can suggest if they don’t have a stop date, assume 2 weeks and get whatever you need done by then.

You might want to wait. There were story sections that were omitted or shuffled with the NPE and they said recently they are planning to redo and fix the story line.

It depends if you are doing it just for fun and something to do or doing it to follow the lore and story line closely.

You have to get to level 10 first now. If you have tomes or writs then it’s fast but if you don’t then you have to spend several gold to to craft to gain enough exp or you have to level the old fashioned way, which takes time.

By the way, most stuff you get, you can’t sale, it’s account bound.