Guild Wars 2

Huh.. so seeing a gem store purchase that, by your own admission has been in the game since like the start, is being taken out of sale you felt compelled to whine about the business model of the game.
If this was so important an item to you, then you have had plenty of time to buy it… kinda like going into a shop in January seeing something you like then coming back in December to find its no longer on sale…..

You forget, this isn’t a game to ANET its a business and one that is required to find revenue streams… so things come and things go and things can change at the drop of the hat.
Some MMO that have gone F2P leave everything in the shop but as now stuff comes in the pages become cluttered and players don’t like to have to wade through endless lists of stuff to get to where they want.
Whether you like it or not F2P is the the platform that drives GW2.. we want content and we want fluff.. expansions are longer time scale workings and to do that requires the game to keep churning a profit out… somewhere (soon I hope) I guess an expansion will be forthcoming in the meantime to keep us all happy they have promised quick turnaround content patching and so far they have kept their word, buggy as it may be most of the time, but imagine GW2 if it kept the same tradional content turnaround… 3-6 months – with new MMO’s, expansions etc coming out all around them they need carrots to dangle in front of us so refreshing gemstore and LS patches are how they choose to do it until such a time as they push out something bigger.

Remember, either way no one is forcing you to spend money on gems or gemstore items but your view on F2P is your own and I don’t share it… and I still an avid monthly subber in the same MMO I have played since beta many,many moons ago.
You bought GW2 knowing that aside from the boxsale there would be a gemstore to purchase stuff.. who are you to now suddenly demand ANET do as you say anyway.

Ventrue.5731:

Not a single point I made was even argued, I sort of assume people can’t argue with what is correct so they get bum hurt about it and retort with being upset about their game being bad. Seriously, there were few people who read it, but can any one have an argument that is valid? Mention a single thing I’ve told that is not correct about this game and then insult me.
Well I guess its too much, I would be upset too if people would point out faults of my game and I could not come up with a rational argument.

You wrote a wall of words then wonder why no one wants to discuss what is nothing more than your own kittenings…. even after you yourself tell us you gave up reading it for proofing cos it made your eyes bleed.

Next topic, move along please!

All you gotta do now is do an very long rain dance, pray forgiveness for past in game sins, place an offering into the Mystic Forge and hope the RNG god adds your name to the list of lucky ones chosen to be able to use the LFG tool.. its a controlled Beta roll out, not everyone will get to use it straight away as far I can gather.

I took 12 of every pebble, nugget and lump as well as a few old marks I had collecting dust in my bank hoard.

I got 2 Platnium Doubs, 4 Golds and 6 Silver and a load of Coppers… By the end I used all the pebbles I took, had a few odd nuggets and lots of lumps and marks left…… the forge drops at approx. 5% apparently when throwing these space fillers into it….. RNG is fickle tho and I am sure if I do it today the results will be less than great or maybe even better…. but it beats hoping for bags to drop 1 every now and then or pay the silly prices on TP now… I mean there isn’t really that much use for the items used to forge the silver doubloons anyway so its a no brainer imo.

Rage.9723:

I actually quit the guild after because no one cared that I missed my reward since they all got theirs. Such is life that no one cares unless it happens to them.

Wow how old are you.. spoilt, hard done kiddie is ringing this tune I think.

Your problem is you expect everything whether you achieve something to get it or not… your guild is best rid imo, now you will have to find another guild to whine to instead of addressing the problem at hand – YOU!

Spicyhash.7605:

there is no real reason to go back to those zones unless you’re leveling an alt with a friend. it should’ve never been possible to level through crafting. it’s really sad that the only way anet can get people to go back to zones is by promise of loot (hey look we added 8new champion events to brisban wildlands).

lvling being too easy is another thing that’s emptying out zones. it should’ve taken a lot longer. too late now tho

Have to agree with you.

Great idea by ANET to create an openworld environment, but that’s where the vision quest got to I guess and now the maps are all but a run thro to the next champ.

A s I said.. we could all sit in Metrica and gather onions till we reach level 80… at least it would take a bit longer than 2 days

Shivetya.9278:

IndigoSundown.5419:

At some point, the MMO genre will die because developers will refuse to put all that time, effort and money into gameplay that will be ignored — in favor of instanced content that is modular — which means it can be changed up easily, providing variety; which has variable challenge levels for different demographics, and in which the rewards can be more tightly controlled.

DDO

Boring as hell. But it is basically that model.

Actually I disagree I find DDO much more interesting.
DDO has I agree taken in modular conten approach with traditional dungeons, raids etc, but DDO at least has tools and mechanics built into the game that create so much more diversity, dungeon scaling, multi classing, and a plethora of build options/variety heck even down to basic UI customisations
GW2 for a modern day MMO offers very few mechaincs, zero customisation, few class/build options and heck is only just implementing an LFG… DDO has been around a long time, granted and ANET will hopefully add value to the current content but as it stands now its far less immersive for me and I think longer term offers very little repeat value in its content..
I am bias though I admit, I have been a DDO since the first day of beta in EU many many, moons ago.. but even now I have no issues jumping onto low level toons or taking high levels back through things.. level scaling on any form of content is always fun if the content itself has decent replay value and … GW2 thought Openworld was going to do this.. but where is the fun in running egg timer trains in a loop downing map bosses/champs in 30 seconds with a hundred others pew pewing around you.. what does that really offer in terms of immersion.
I think 12 months on ANET have began to realise something just isn’t working out the way they hoped and have themselves had to shift the content model to small bolt on modular LS content and lots of farming to keep players here cos their existing stuff isn’t standing the test of time.. how many times have you gone back to Metrica this week to run events there… with the exception of maybe the fire ele on timer or Caledon Forest… scaling players back was supposed to induce us to go back and redo these maps… hasn’t had any effect imo.

kristof.7182:

We have overflow.
Why ANet can’t make “downflow”?

Be sensible.. if you have more players than what the instance can handle an overflow is created.. therefore the map cant be empty can it so what are you talking about .. “downflow”

OP.. every MMO has facets of the game that begin to thin out.. players progress their toons/alts and when they reach max level they only frequent lower level maps for things like champ trains.. which imo help to kill interest not aid it.

Players are running round certain maps on egg timers and loot spotting.. then when they have all they need they move on or log out until the next patch.
ANET should have realised that egg timers rotations do nothing to serve the longevity of their Openworld concept other than to create a farm spot for a few days until the playerbase has milked it or grown bored of running the same train over and over and over. . Then again I suppose if they didn’t the playerbase would be up in arms cos things are to timely to get anywhere soon – so devil if they do and devil if they don’t.

What I would like to see is proper difficulty scaling on maps with random openworld event chains spawning which need to be completed in order to unlock follow on events elsewhere across Tyria until finally there is a Large scale end event like the Scarlett invasion.. that way there is no egg timer and maps get pre events that move the players constantly across maps not just sit on an event timer and map flip for a 30second boss fight then move on.
Additionally maps should have certain events locked out until players have reached certain levels or completed certain events to unlock advancement to force maps to be utilised at differing levels and different times.. im not a great fan of content gating but so many maps are lacking in interest now that things need to be spiced up some imo.

And make levelling harder.. I mean I could sit in Metrica and farm onion over and over… why on earth does an onion at level 80 reward more XP than at level 1???? – its an Onion… but if I craft a green plank for XP, pretty soon I get nowt.
Leveling is worthless, it takes 2 days casual playtime to get to level 80 with all the crazy XP to be had from all things wide and “not so wonderful” – that in itself promotes ghost maps

Nemesys.7251:

what u are talking about?how u can invite someone in your group if is alredy grouped??,and what that video mean?

just look the first 2 fight u run with 19?andale andale ariba ariba.

grow a pair come on.

and from now enjoy the forums and your blob.

Gees do you ever shut up.. we get it your awesomesauce and xXx is the greatest WvW guild bar none… now can we all go back to sleeping through this matchup.

All we have in this thread is complaints about blobby blobby and you with your “big I am” commenting – you say “grow some” … I say “grow up”!

I wouldn’t be surprised if your the player that got reported a few days back in WvW for calling another player a “dumb ni***”

If it was then … the 5 or 6 of us who were in group with that player all hope you enjoy your ban.

As others have said – you don’t get banned for saying things the way you have tried to portray, ANET might be hardline at times but they are not that stupid.

Learn to be chat maturely … is all I can say really

Niim.9260:

Kincaidia.3192:

Niim, “siege monkey”?!? I take actual offense at that. You think it’s fun taking down SMC walls with a treb? No, but I’m sure you enjoy waltzing in after someone does the work.

Godkitten selfish kittens.

No on says you have to set up a treb in an untouchable location and spam #1 until something is destroyed. You could, crazy as this is, set up catapults near the wall and get fights and fun while using the catapults, or maybe even ram the door. In these cases it is 1) not boring 2) close to the fight and thus you will not lose out on credit.

Yes sometimes a treb in these locations makes the most sense given the defense or map strategy, but I fail to see why someone on a treb so far away they cannot get credit, should be rewarded for watching TV while a macro fires a treb for him.

The game needs way less siege monkeys and more fighting, imo.

Ahh so crunching 1111211111121111 at a door…….. whilst in the relative comfort of being hidden amongst the rest of your zerg (who funnily enough are all crunching the same numbers as you cos ya rams, cats etc keep getting spanked by all the oppositions siege weapons) – that’s where the real skill and reward must be aimed…. gotcha.

The players didn’t design WvW they just choose to use the tools that were placed in front of them by ANET.. just out of interest, why did ANET decide to implement treb mastery or trebs /towers &keeps themselves for that matter…
Both PvD and Treb v wall/door are viable tactics in WvW but in some cases one doesn’t get the credit and normally gets a ton of grief from commanders and other zerg members when the treb either aims poor or isn’t being used at all….

Though I prefer to be the one in the Lords room doing the pew pew I can at least see the Op’s point of view.. try it maybe, it can be refreshing.

I tried logging in about 30mins ago and just got the dreaded Black Screen… even worse, the only way to do anything was to CTRL ALT DEL and switch off cos the system just ground to a halt.

Upon loading Windows 7 Ultimate told me GW2 was bad news and proceeded to unistall it from my SSD.. so now I gotta go through hours of reloading…. :-(

Not to mention the even longer skill lag times in SM fights… whatwere you thinking!!

Guess everybody must be using the same ISP, have the same terrible connection, same crappy CPU bottlenecking .. all at the same time… ANET support anwser right there tells me they either don’t know what to do or don’t want to do anything and hope we will all forget about it and go play like good children should.

Yeah I have never known it to be this bad.. 1-2 min skill lag is just unacceptable.. WvW is simply unenjoyable at the moment.
Suggest a total reboot of WvW and some serious thought put into getting something sorted server side.. forget about SAB tosh and get something done about the issues that are plaguing the game .. or just keep ignoring them and until another MMO hits the market and steals your lootbags ANET!

Lets not.. lets discuss the god awful skill lagfest in WvW instead.. far more interesting and x1000 more important to WvW…

Eagle.7208:

ThomasKreshant.6572:

Eagle.7208:

And you were not outmanned

You can’t see the buff anymore so unless you’re doing rapid counting of people you’d not know any more if someone is or isn’t outmanned. (short of lol spies ofc :P)

Read the line after that >:( I based it on the massive sea of red names that were standing on the walls. We don’t do Spies though.

Oh dear you still harking on about that little incident with a player passing info to some commander a little whiles back… get over it Archi….. rumour has it you have done far worse in order to keep your karma train choo chooing on Fridays… oh of course pre-arranged agreements to flip towers is all above board

@Thomas Kreshant.6572

Don’t mind Archi, this week has seen UW put some numbers out in WvW so he has found some courage to crawl out and tag up for glory.. except when it doesn’t quite go to plan he resorts to his joker card (whinning and critiquing oppositions tactics and apparent unfairness).

Agrios.9071:

@ Bloodstealer
I only said what i experienced. Pls read my post again. What happened to us was 2 times at Hills in GH borderland and 2 times in Bay UW borderland. Oh i forget the fight for lake tower. That was actually 3 GH groups that all looked like guild groups. Every of your groups there had more people in total that the two UW forces that fought you. (GRTS and DEX)

But then again i can only say what i experience. I hope for RAGE that they also have the nice fights you spoke of since it has to be boring to steamroll 15 man groups with +/-25 all the time.

I never said it wasn’t what you experienced.. in fact if you read my post to you it infers it was your “situational” experience rather than the norm.

And tbh a 15man group should not be so easily steam rolled by a +/- 25 opposition if your coordinating and have some tactical nouse.

As I said.. players log into WvW to play the game the way they want in the time they have available.. if you come across a superior group/zerg or whatever, the choices are simple.. put up or turn tail.. .. why does that warrant crying on the forum because another guild group gave you repeated spankings…. its not the fault of the opposition that your group is inferior in numbers and possibly other things as well.

Agrios.9071:

This is not meant as whining nor as anything against RAGE but all you enjoy is open field hugging with your other GH guilds. I rarely saw some of you running alone when the enemy had numbers close to yours.
At the reset DEX was able to stomp you 2 times, we had at the reset arround 25 people. In the week we had never more that 15 people and now we got stomped by your melee train. Nearly all i have seen from RAGE during the week in the prime times was hand holding with various other GH guilds. We faced you a few times in the open areas but allways were outnumbered there. You dont seek a challenge you seek kills and slaughter.

This is my personal opinion but i think many of the smaller UW guilds think the same.
Maybe its even something only DEX expierienced.

And here i have a small story to counter your roaming drama. DEX heard once that some guys of HT go to our northcamp. After a hard day of fighting big guild groups we had only 6 people that reacted and came to defend the camp. At the western exit we saw the roaming group of arround 10 HT which got supported by some other people. We dediced to attack them and even pushed them in the open field area outside of the camp and even downed a few people. In the middle of the fight something painful ran over us. The RAGE meleetrain came veiled into our 6 man group that allready was outnumbered. You interrupted a really nice small scale fight of which the end wasnt decided yet.

Oh my, someone got outta bed sore today.

Being an UW player who enjoys running alongside APE guild quite often I have to say your perception of RAGE is at best situational. I myself have had some decent fun attacking and defending against them this week and previously and imo they don’t look to blob and Karma train.. in fact quite the opposite they appear to either go looking for trouble or react to it when it finds them. Every guild whether it runs with a tag or not will at times pick up stragglers or in some cases when a guild commands respect on their own maps other players choose to run alongside them rather than following other groups or commanders.

So please quit the whine and learn to just roll with the punches… its WvW not 1v1 and all is fair in love and war.

Spend 4G buying drinks for guild influence yesterday evening… surprise surprise nothing has been added to our guild influence total.. that’s 2k influence not given and/or 4g wasted… REFUND gold OR ADD the influence please! ANET !!!

I am normally pretty forgiving when it comes to MMO bugs but this patch has bugged so many things (many things that were previously fixed) I am beginning to think 2week turnrounds are not really worth all the hassle considering the amount of repatching during the 2 week window until the next update hits us with a fresh load of bugs.

Just checked.. nothing in the slot… though you have now provided me with 1 extra inventory slot… 1 stack of 250 deposited now :0

KK.. due to the LA guild Bank bug I map switched to Divinity Reach to bank stuff in the guild bank… whilst there I decided to open up a few stacks of the event purses I had saved… … I hit my first stack of 250 bloodstone dusts and another 156 then headed back to LA.

When looking to place the dusts into my bank for safe storage and free up some much needed inventory space in preparation for the next deluge of greens from the 100’s of delux boxes I was prepping to open, I found the stack of 250 dusts, moved them and then – - errmm well the other stack of 156 dusts was no where to be seen, disappeared into the ether.. I would appreciate looking into this and fixing the stupid guild bank bug in LA so that map swapping doesn’t open up potential bugs like this… I did nothing else other than open the purses and map swapped!

As the title states.. guild bank access is not possible AGAIN!! when interacting with the NPC in Lions Arch… kind of annoying when you want to use the mystic toilet and swap stuff in and out of the guild bank before/ after.

VaaCrow.3076:

Dear [TAC] Scout/warrior from UWBL at 3:40 am. Could you be any worse? You run from a fight where you have me out numbered 2v1? Seriously, I’ve not seen a more shameful/pathetic display from a warrior in all of my combined wvw time. L2p.

P.S, I enjoyed laughing on your corpse very much.

Ooohhh that was laughter…. I thought all your late night/early morning munchies had affected your stomach, phew that warrior got some luck tonight at least

Well lets be fair… we’re getting to comfy with endless quick fix patching after a game update.. so ANET decided to screw up the game before the update this time just to change things round a little……

But other news.. the gemstore is working fine – - of course!

Ahh so your responsible for overstretching the rubber bands…. how ya think the ANET servers are gunna run now that ya broke the rubber bands… sheeezzz.

ANET… best send a dev to the corner shop for some super glue.. another, eerrrm “quick fix” required ASAP.

Seriously though this server lag mullarkey is getting silly season again, admit it having 2 servers fighting is bad enough to cause issues, 3 servers are making it near unplayable in many areas of WvWvW…most notably every single SM serverslap and the culling is getting worse not better!

Galtrix.7369:

Astral Projections.7320:

Interesting but won’t stop the QQers as they will just say the game sold 3 million then promptly fell over and died.

What we could REALLY use when arguing with negative Nancys discussing this is the total number of sales and also some hard numbers on concurrency.

Unfortunately, the QQers are right on this game. It did fall over and die and then an Anet employ came, hit it with a sledge-hammer and then kicked it off the empire state building.

Sure, if Anet gave us accurate numbers on the exact amount of people playing at the moment, the number of people per server, and the people quitting daily, then I’d be happy. But Anet refuses to give us the numbers repeatedly. Why is that? Think hard. Why would they refuse to give us the number of players playing atm? Are they embarrassed? That’s what my theory is. The number of people on my server took a fall off a cliff a few weeks ago and the only people I see play on patch days for 5 minutes and then the log off.

What would the numbers do for you.. every server has something called concurrency.. yours might be lower concurrent logins than others sometimes and sometimes it might be overflowing… do you even understand what numbers are you seek and what they tell you… I am guessing not. Box sales mean nothing per say except to ANET when looking at how fast they can recover theirs and their backers initial outlay… once they hit that the rest is gravy. and the more gravy they can pour over the game the more development going forward there will be…. but then again what difference does it make if 3million people have bought, tried left as long as you are enjoying the game…
But I guess your not and that’s ok, no one is forcing you too. But where do you get all the evidence to suggest the game is dead.
Take a look at SWTOR to learn that lesson.. record box sales right off the bat – but look where they were 9-12 months later, quarterly statements painted in spin, few actual updates, firefighting , server crunching under a cloud of spin, poor content repeatability, then finally F2P in under a year…. number of box sales tell you nowt! so better to not report such things too often as there will always be someone claiming the game is dead, the game is rubbish etc, etc because of numbers.

I too don’t like certain things about the game, its not perfect in my eyes but its certainly not dead imo and there must be money being made for them to keep putting in new updates every 2 weeks, adding changes, continuing to try to polish aspects of the game… anyone who has played MMO’s long enough knows that when a game is hitting rock bottom the first thing that gets stifled is development of content, quickly followed by maintenance mode only…. not something I see happening in GW2 as yet…. but who knows what’s round the corner – then again there are plenty of other options out there to occupy your time if GW2 isn’t for you.

Immolator.5640:

Alright I tried, lost respect for APE (or at least these two, god forbid they’re representative of the whole) now, no civility in the slightest, you guys obviously just enjoy flaming everyone and everything, and can’t accept an apology done talking with you guys.

[WvW] is upfor 5vs5 Asuraball and 15vs15 GvG for the first time in ages this matchup.

Lesson 4 – Read and take in information before acting.. I said I was a pugger and not a member of APE.. I just happened to be running with the group at the time when you decided to try and start a flame war with your hacking post above, so please don’t judge them just because I chose to call you out.
As for civility… take some humble pie and enjoy

@ Immolator.5640

Wow your sour attitude.. and yours is all smelling of roses right, what a climb down from your baseless hacking accusations… black pots and kettles much!.. your smooth!

Maybe your teammate forgot to mention the black Powder, the dance, and when your skilled player finally acted on the fact we had people inside Durios (even though they were emoting right in front of him for fun).. of course being so skilled now meant he had 4 players to take on when he could of just gone 1 on 1 with the resser…. nah easier to call someone a hacker I guess and save face to the fact he was worse than useless.

But now you think its bad to flame the accuser and we should be all warm and cuddly to you… oh sure.. lets group hug…. but please be careful not to stand on the stealths toes now!
Three lessons learned –
a)- ya player doesn’t know how its tactical to keep stealths in tower takes
b) Always check around after tower takes
c) – Experienced Commanders with some tactical nouse don’t blindly blurt out accusations across forums after suffering a quick tower flip from old server allies, then try their utmost to recoil from their BS and ask for cuddles cos the flames are hurting… yep like I said your smooth.
If I were you I would strongly consider taking Fili up on his offer of training

Anyone else having issues with Bloodlusts sigils not generating stacks.
Any other sigil I utilise i.e. Corruption works fine and can see my stacks maxing out but when using a bloodlust upgraded weapon nothing happens.

Well I am getting loot… of sorts.
Back to the dull days of endless Porous Bones and the occasional bluey to crunch.

I am guessing with all the easy win loot available in the farmtastic boring as hell, mind numbing event – they decided to kill off loot elsewhere and hope we don’t notice cos were all enslaved to the will of the farm god hovering over Divinity Reach.

A trap… I would rather consider it a bait and hook.
Every MMO has them and GW2 is no different and for a very good and simple reason.
Without such hooks players login times will ultimately dwindle as repetition of the same things over and over will cull enthusuiasm and without it the game fails to profit.
Players seem to always forget the fact that GW2 is nothing more than a product for the end user.. to create the product cost money and the only way to make that money back and build a profit off it is to get players to play it, but no one is forcing players to do anything other than make their own choice of want to/what to play or not.

Without such hooks there would, in fairly short timeframe, be.. a reduction of new content, longer delays between new content, stunting of the content, maintenance mode and then OFF SWITCH.

What we call a game, ANET/NCSoft call $$$BUSINESS$$$ plain and simple and LS is just another tool put in to keep promoting and selling the game to us – nothing new, every commercial enterprise does it in their own ways if they want to keep generating a healthy return.

Sawnic.6795:

So basically you want to be handed the mini.

Personally, I’m happy this is here. We need more events like this. Make the majority of the event easy and casual friendly, and make some aspect of it hard as kitten.

I agree 100%… but I don’t think its difficulty of the content that’s in question… at least not in my case…I love the fact this isn’t going to be achieved by all and likely myself included. I don’t mind admitting my own defeat when something is simply beyond my skill level.. But luck isn’t really what should be determining who gets a prize or not.. skill and the ability to work out a tactic to overcome the difficulty should be..

With this kind of shoddy camera system, no wonder there are players that have called on less honest tactics in order to overcome zoom issues in other areas of the game.. I would hate to think it would start to creep into this small scale content as well, but I could understand why it might.

I have no issues with any of these bosses being very hard and a decent challenge.. I hated deadeye perma kill shotting me over and over until I worked him out.
The one thing that really makes the gauntlet poor imo, as is the case with pretty much every jump puzzle in GW2 is the extremely poor camera mechanics.
I’ve never played an MMO with so much camera collision and plain laughable view distances/zoom.

I would seriously like to finish tier 3 but I know that my luck isn’t that great no matter what my skill level is, even though the tactics are simple enough to beating her, but there isn’t any skill in avoiding something that simply cant be seen above…. except by chance.

ANET really have spoiled some decent openworld, dungeons, fracs and LS concepts with such a shoddy camera system, but yet still release content like this knowing full well it demonstrates how lame the camera is.

But content wise.. I like it, its good fun – even tho Liadri is destined to be the end of my journey in this current LS

the pass is a convenience item to save having to go back to Div Reach to use banks etc…

Have you not noticed the slow loading of instances now and the plethora of junk you get from the instance… all adds up to “I cant be bothered to keep jumping out of instance to empty and crush stuff” otherwise its another zzzzz waiting to load and then fall into overflow… smart move on ANETS part but not something I will be buying.

Necro skill Well of Power doesn’t seem to work properly either… cos the amount of knockbacks from centaurs or knockdown/stuns from chars and ogres I am getting tells me ANET just went “WTH, who cares, they wanted farming let em av it, and hope they don’t notice!”

Been trying for an hour to get past Deadeye.. but what with his constant blipping then by the time I’ve located him.. ding killshot (dodged). second kill shot (dodged) then he instantly blipped and third killshot does 78k dmg cos I was on cooldown….. sick!

Nothing remotely challenging about that kind of crazy mechanics/dmg combo.

As for the last fight, I have seen so many players try it its just silly season though luckily my necro is unlikely to see it this side of the millennium -

New Maps would be nice….. I find the same 4 a little tedious after a year now

I thought this after doing 2 of the torchbearers and not getting the daily credit… then I did the centre torchbearer and ding.. daily achievement pinged up.
Quite a few others have also said they did not get it until running the centre torchbearer…. guess ANET decided not to inform us of this.

Vayne.8563:

Gehenna.3625:

TheDaiBish.9735:

http://amd-icbm.com/icbm/anet-blog-mmo-manifesto-reactions/

Partial interview

TL:DR – When they were talking about bosses not returning 10 mins later, they were referring to Personal Story bosses.

Which makes their point pointless because there are plenty of other games out there where storyline bosses don’t respawn either. Somthing called instancing, which is how it’s done in GW2 and also in many other games. No wonder people read more into it since they were being all excited about an exciting new thing, which was in fact already commonplace in newer games.

It’s not pointless, you’re simply missing the point.

First of all we’re talking MMOs, not single player games. And when this was made, there was no MMO that gave you a PERSONAL story. What does that mean?

In WoW, a human warrior is a human warrior. All human warriors start in the same place and run through the same quests. You’re not a poor human warrior or a rich one. You don’t have a personal story. All MMOs have stories. Not all of them have YOUR story. It’s pretty simple.

The only other MMO I know that has a personal story is SWToR, and of course, that’s Bioware’s strong suit. MMOs, however, weren’t, as shown by the rapid decline of that game and half the staff being laid off.

The point is, when the manifesto was created, no MMO that was out had a personal story built into it. Anet had every reason to talk about it (whether you like the personal story or not).

Sorry to rain down but I think whether you like it or not ANET / NCSoft is a business and like many things in business, things change for a multitude of reasons as time goes on.
GW2 is a product that needs to generate money and as mother time moves on so that product will require some change and cashshop, personal story, dungeons, gear etc, etc are the means that they have and choose to utilise in order to keep the cash stream flowing.
The manifesto is not the holy bible it is not something written in stone … it is a PR gimmick put out there to entice us all, but as soon as the games went live ANET /NCSoft were under no obligation to do anything other than protect their revenue stream from the game.

The sooner you get over this “not to the manifesto / broken promises” stuff the sooner you might start to sleep easier

JeroenXP.5364:

Ever heard of multitasking… Anyway if your defending this kid then our community does not too seem to be better then :P. Anyway I’m not taking the game too serious but I dislike internet heroes like ballyboy who is “name calling” a whole server so i name call him in something that suit’s his post’s.

People can say anything about me since I don’t give a rats kitten about that, but being this childish against a whole server vs people he don’t even know about is so weak.

From a viewers perspective you both are acting like kids and in the process attempting to derail the thread – two wrongs don’t make a right …. is all im saying

JeroenXP.5364:

ballyboy.9143:

JeroenXP.5364:

How old are you ballyboy… nvm figured with a name like not more then 12… well at least you act like one that’s for sure. Anyway I prefer fun fair fights then trying too proof basically nothing on the ranking list.

I just have a strong dislike for your Server, so i will do everything in my power to screw you over, have a good week <3

Ah so your mentally disabled, dunno about others but I have a lot of other stuff to do. So except people who are like you who don’t do anything beyond playing GW2 and taking it so serious, your not screwing any one over

Well in all honesty I think you seem to be the one taking it a little too serious in my opinion, what with the nasty name calling and all…. if you got other stuff to do I would suggest you go do it cos the forums seem to be affecting you in an adverse manner

Vazir.5867:

I’ll just leave this commercial here…

edit typo

Although i’m an Underworld victim.. I just have to LOL at this…

But where are all these golems people keep whinning about.. that cant be it surely

psy.5437:

I roll a die every time I feel like buying a RNG anything (chest keys for example) from the gem shop.

If I roll a seven then I buy some keys.

A D100 I assume???

Steelo.4597:

I think it was my bad for calling him a spy when he just did 200% epic trolling by telling Archi he got sold out for 1g If i recall the incident now he didnt tell us anything that he couldnt have seen by simply scouting around WC. Sorry for causing this drama.

-Starhejm

In no way do I think YOU are the drama queen

Genotix.6804:

Thanks to the UW for the good fights at our borders this night. Straight up fights i loved them. As i said your pugs are better than many of the guilds we have faced to our previous matches:)

TBH this whole matchup has been a big ball of fun.
Have to applaud Gunnar for their organised assaulting of UW BL and EB… I personally don’t give a hoot if you plant golems and sieges all over .. as someone else pointed out a few posts back, every server has the same capability…
Tonight the fights were pretty full frontal, at least in the group I was running with and we had to pick our targets and tactics carefully.
It was also good to see Arbor stepping up to be counted tonight, and we had some decent encounters both on your home map and on EB.. for what appears to be a small pop WvW server you guys can walk away from this week with ya pride intact for sticking at it and amassing a pretty decent points tally already.. but come to EB more often.. I wants different shinnies to the ones GH keep throwing at me

Jimmy JimBob.2801:

First time in this matchup thread for me and I have to say I’m a little surprised with the way UW have come out attacking from the get go. I thought you’d be better than that.

Not had a chance to play yet but I’ve heard UW are strong so I look forward to going against your zergs

I think you will find that same attitude exists on all servers/match-ups even your own.
Saying that I have no reason to whine about this match-up so far as its turning out to be quite a lot of fun no matter what tactics are deployed… If one side wished to golem rush then nothing is stopping the others from doing the same in counter.. like wise if GH want to plant lots of superior siege to counter Stonemist assaults, I say that’s a wise tactic knowing its a big prize to keep especially when its upgraded and a waypoint completed… – just means those attacking have to be a little better tactically minded but as I said there are always those who want to whine about stuff.

Good luck all tonight, hope to see more badges come my way again tonight

Unlikely ANET will respond to this or the countless other threads about it since it became so widespread… in doing so it acknowledges there is a problem and many more players will see it and go use it.
Nice video btw, shame on RoS for it, especially from that commander and I too hope ANET is doing something behind this to get it sorted and punish those who use it with perma bans… but I wont hold my breath… cos it doesn’t directly affect gem sales and that’s really all they care about.

Steelo.4597:

im totally up for spawn camping UW nice chasing in rogue camp right now for about 5-10 minutes? LOL. but then someone with poison showed up and i died Keep em coming boys, seems we arent a pushover for UW afterall

I don’t recal anyone saying any server would be a pushover least so the ones we face this week.

Oh and that poison, I syphoned lots of it from the vicious tongues of previous servers corpses who thought it best to bad mouth and waste oxygen in these match-up threads.

Last night saw some real decent large scale kitten slapping inside a little hovel called Stonemist….. that was some of the best fun I have had in WvW for a whiles now.

GH I was amazed at the amount of players you were able to throw into us from all sides.. … and with a few extra golems thrown into the fray it looked ominous for a moment, in fact at one point I could of sworn it was sea of red taking over our puddle of green, but again some steely defence by a determined bunch of Underworlds managed to push you back at least a 7 or 8 times until we somehow managed to break your resolve and chase you out.
It was also good to see Arbor join the match up as well, you peeps although smaller in groups and numbers definitely have some decent players and weren’t afraid to try things out in open field… much respect from me on EB.

Only thing that spoiled the fun in SM last night was that ugly reappearance of our old enemy… SKILL LAG!

kitten ThoseNames.8791:

I was fighting in eb till 4-4.30 and it wasn’t pvdoor at all. I had some good fights last night. I’m dissapointed in [TEO], never saw a large “organised” group running from fights like they did.

Good luck and have fun this week.

Well I decided to run a rare nightshift last night cos its been a while since I saw my last sunset/sunrise… action at first saw GH taking a firm grip on EB with that choo choo golem rush across Arbor territory, undoing a lot of our hard work but we were a little low on numbers and slow to react until Sempros got us organised with the few that were around still.

I don’t really care for all the open field siege, blobbing or golem rush whines that these match-up threads seem to revert back to… All tactics in WvW are there to be utilised by all and Gunnar that little golem choo choo you put out was pretty effective… until you tried dominating UW territory and it was the best fun of the nightshift for me.

You smashed down our unmanned Wildcreek and then went straight for the jugular hitting our lowly defended keep with that train… but against all odds, our 2 mortar men and a small handful of resolutes kept you busy long enough inside the keep till Sempros rallied us again and against the odds we punished you good and proper

Arbor must still be sussing out the lay of the land and I expect more fight from you as the week progresses, but it looks like GH are the ones setting the pace…. hopefully the match-up will continue in the same vein and provide us all with some decent fun as the week progresses…. HAPPY HUNTING ALL.