Guild Wars 2

Valentin.2073:

i wonder if an ele and a thief engage in a 1v1 battle, who’s gonna come out as a victor? what do you think, guys? btw, i saw a spirit ranger lose to a really good ele 1 time in soloq.

Thief vs Elementalist

Elementalist vs Thief

In conclusion, they both are victor, as long both play well and one survives

Valentin.2073:

Burnfall.9573:

3 Op Classes

3 Strongest 1v1

Thief

Warrior

Mesmers

you wish dude. thieves are pretty useless in tourneys. only a noob can lose to a thief 1v1. a thief has to work twice as hard to make themselves useful in ranked tourneys and soloq is infested of bad thieves atm.

i encourage you to post that in the thief forum and get back to me

during the meantime, enjoy

3 Op Classes

3 Strongest 1v1

Thief

Warrior

Mesmers

OP, I’m not accusing you of being a hacker but seriously, you are exposing innocent players financial information to the hackers and i refuse to fall into that trap.

Raden.2645:

Blizz messed up big time when they decided to cater to around 5 percent of their player base and thumbed the other 95 percent when they released CAT. As a result, they lost aprox 4 million subscriptions over it. Anet has no monthly sub fees but anyone I know has invested some RWM at the gem store for something or another. What happens to Anet’s bottom line when those people that are investing in the gem store quit? Simply because they feel the class they sunk 6 months time into sucks and they don’t want to start over.

Maybe Anet needs to spend some time looking at how to make other classes a little more valuable so they don’t end up with either a server full of worriers or, people that just quit cause they have already invested the time on other toons and don’t feel like spending more time rerolling cause they don’t feel like they help bring anything to the table when they see things like this when looking for a dungeon to join.

this is too sad to even look. again

One more thing…

I don’t mind repeating myself 1,000 times, i believe warrior should be the strongest top class in guild wars 2 but, yes i said but… they shouldn’t be ALL POWERFUL

There is a difference in being Powerful and ALL POWERFUl. This is the problem we see and have in this game, it’s not about warriors, thieves or mesmers, it’s about Arena.net philosophy of class balance.

Their philosophy of class balance is; Being ALL and Having it ALL.; which is Unjust, and Tyrannical. Not forgetting they are in complete Violation of the Law of Balance.

That’s the Problem we’ve been experiencing since day 1 of guild wars 2 release and that’s the problem Arena.net intentionally refuse to deal with.

It’s not about nerfing “the hell out” of All POWERFULL classes, it is to completely redesign/rework them. Why? Because, “ALL their fiber of their bones” are designed and created to be ALL POWERFUL .

As long Arena.net continue their saga in their philosophy of “Balance”, there will never be an end to this chaos and rage among ourselves.

15 months and counting; the joke is still on us.

Op,

i’m a vet mmorpg’s player and i completely disagree with you. Before i even continue, i want you to name those mmorpg which “warriors are nerfed to dirt”

by the way, all top popular mmorpgs, warriors are the top best profession/job/class,
including this one, so………….

k get back to me with hard evidences so i can continue (no videos or websites allowed; only names)

thanks

You are welcome; i’m glad you made the right choice.

You are not alone Op, it has been an ongoing problem since day 1 of guild wars 2 release. It was much worse before, but now it is starting all over.

I also got tired of reporting them as well; not saying that’s right or wrong but we the community are powerless and Arena.net knows it.

As humans, all we do is do what we can do,

that’s what matters.

It seem you are new to the forums, use the ingame report tool instead; all you can do is continuously report the bot, nothing more.

It is against Arena.net rules to expose bots, hackers name and video in the forums.

So erase the name of that bot in your post, including video a.s.a.p

If you want to take my advice, take it.

If you don’t want to take my advice, you will be Infracted and banned by Arena.net.

gl

Sauzo.6821:

I heard zerker rangers will be great in GW3…“a master of ranged weaponry”….or maybe that’s GW4….

GW4

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Some opf us like this thing called balance – It is okay to have: High damage, High regen, High defense, Good Defensive options, High mobility, Good CC. however – it is NOT okay for them to have ALL of it.

It is VERY stupid when a HEAVY armor class is able to out run pretty much everyone. Then you look at Ele due to everything they had (all the above) they had nearly ALL of it nerfed and didnt get anything return – they had the lowest health of all the classes so the very high damage was okay now that has been nerfed i mean they can still do it but they can still also be burst down thanks to having like 11k health.

They had high mobility so that was nerfed with the huge cool down on Ride The Lightening if it didnt hit anything. The healing and regen was nerfed as they hHAD high damage and everything. They have been nerfed for things that they no longer even have.

“some of us like this thing called balance”

We are not the Balance team, Arena.net is and that is their definition, not ours.

Wait once sec….

The right word is Favoritism, that’s it.

Chaba.5410:

Video or it didn’t happen.

where is the video when you were born?

You made it this far, didn’t you?

Today i had a terrible experience with an Engineer in WvW. This Engineer was spamming turrets like crazy; 4-5 turrents within seconds of each other; which i find very ridiculous to begin with.

To get to the point, i died; no surprise here. Engineer has come a long way from nothingness to something being and i believe, they still need some support buffs from Arena.net but at the moment, i feel they are near balanced.

I consider their turrets as pets and they can be very dangerous.. unlike the rangers
“pet”.

The reason why i’m not “hating” the Engineer class is because they are the only top supportive class in the game, including their toys; which i find wonderfully well designed… alongside the Guardian class.

In fact, the design team who designed this class, deserves an award.

As i already stated, i am not asking for a nerf for the engineer class but to warn others to stay far aways from their toys..if you want to live.

Your server is very challenging as well..

Nice video and

Good Job!

Prysin.8542:

honestly, they should do 10 things;
- nerf healing signet passive by 20-25%
- nerf perplexity runes into the ground
- give ranger pets 80% more HP
- give ranger spirits 150% more HP and remove the timer on them.
- give ranger 10% better direct damage for power builds
- give necro a 1200 range gap closer on one of his weapons/utilities (it is a start)
- stealth automatically goes into “revealed” form when blocked and or original stealth timer runs out (no more stacking it), revealed debuff lasts 2 1/2 second instead of 3-4.
- Increase RTL distance to 1200, rest stays as is
- incease player cap on ranger spirits, ele auras and thief venoms to 10-15, from 5.
- remove rally system. When you die, you die.

you have my vote +1

Gwalchgwn.1659:

Burnfall.9573:

When you see threads like these; Thief desperately needs build diversity, How to make thieves “fair” in WvW, Building a better D/D thief, Collection of thief problems, it all make sense.

Only the first topic is a correct thread burnfall..
The second is a qq thread that in no way was meant to “improve thieves” but rather flat-out nerf them. And the third thread is just a guy theorycrafting a new build, which in no way accounts for a profession re-design.

Thank You! for the correction Gwalchgwn

I respect you r opinion OP, and i feel you are the voice of the majority and i appreciate you for raising awareness of this present issue.

And i completely agree with you; it’s not about nerfing thief to the ground but giving them something greatly in return. You say rework this class, i say redesign this class; either one will be justified in the end.

Why take and not replace?

When you see threads like these; Thief desperately needs build diversity, How to make thieves “fair” in WvW, Building a better D/D thief, Collection of thief problems, it all make sense.

I feel thieves should “have more under their sleeves” but somehow i feel Arena.net is intentionally preventing them from being so, which is sad and wrong.

I’m glad there are more players encouraging Arena.net to give thieves more variety of choices, instead of them being controlled and manipulated by a favorite tyrannic dictator mechanic system.

Prysin.8542:

Burnfall.9573:

Julie Yann.5379:

Prysin.8542:

Julie Yann.5379:

I think rangers really need some love from the Devs. Warrior, Guardians, and Necros are definitely the strongest group fighters. Thieves are excellent roamers, Mesamers are annoying and hard to lock down as kitten and they do have some very useful skills. Eles bring amazing support and good AoE damage. Engineers I don’t see much but they have a lot of useful tools also. Rangers are nothing more than free loot bags with a useless pet. They bring almost nothing to team synergy when you compare them to other classes.

You can only make such a statement if you haven’t played the class properly. The ranger is without a doubt top tier in solo/small group roaming. Zergs, that is another matter.

I don’t play the class at all. Out of all the classes I have killed while roaming, I find rangers have been the easiest. There is the odd time where I come across a really good one which makes a challenging fight. Maybe I’m just playing against a bunch of baddies or maybe it’s just my OP warrior.

you are absolutely correct, no need to explain; you are 100% correct about everything you stated about the ranger.

As a ranger myself, i’m impress you did well.

I can tell you this; i don’t feel good to say this as well; Rangers are vegetable in wvw.

Seriously,

sad but true. It doesn’t take 10 seconds for me to kill my own kind; melee or not.

Im fact, i’ve successfully killed 99% of rangers with no problems whatsoever, compared to other classes.

The remaining 1% are beyond my expectation.

In my server, whenever we zerg, we target rangers first than move to elementalists, warriors etc…

Every class confesses how easy (vegetable) rangers are and that need to change.

that’s the truth.

ask them.

if you want to trollbait – try harder.

“I’m not in denial. I’m just selective about the reality I accept”

Julie Yann.5379:

Prysin.8542:

Julie Yann.5379:

I think rangers really need some love from the Devs. Warrior, Guardians, and Necros are definitely the strongest group fighters. Thieves are excellent roamers, Mesamers are annoying and hard to lock down as kitten and they do have some very useful skills. Eles bring amazing support and good AoE damage. Engineers I don’t see much but they have a lot of useful tools also. Rangers are nothing more than free loot bags with a useless pet. They bring almost nothing to team synergy when you compare them to other classes.

You can only make such a statement if you haven’t played the class properly. The ranger is without a doubt top tier in solo/small group roaming. Zergs, that is another matter.

I don’t play the class at all. Out of all the classes I have killed while roaming, I find rangers have been the easiest. There is the odd time where I come across a really good one which makes a challenging fight. Maybe I’m just playing against a bunch of baddies or maybe it’s just my OP warrior.

you are absolutely correct, no need to explain; you are 100% correct about everything you stated about the ranger.

As a ranger myself, i’m impress you did well.

I can tell you this; i don’t feel good to say this as well; Rangers are vegetable in wvw.

Seriously,

sad but true. It doesn’t take 10 seconds for me to kill my own kind; melee or not.

Im fact, i’ve successfully killed 99% of rangers with no problems whatsoever, compared to other classes.

The remaining 1% are beyond my expectation.

In my server, whenever we zerg, we target rangers first than move to elementalists, warriors etc…

Every class confesses how easy (vegetable) rangers are and that need to change.

that’s the truth.

ask them.

OP, i did some digging into your history and saw that you are a passionate necromancer.

-How the update affects condition-mancers-

""On pvp – i’m PVT-MM necro, and condi necro’s are so cute, they trying so hard to kill me, but can’t".

What i don’t understand is, why so suddenly you have a vendetta against necromancer?

Seriously,

what is your true cause?

As mentioned before, if any class makes a mistake, they all should be punished for it.

If not,

Arena.net Favoritism is clearly the problem, not the class. It’s not like they are given the choice to make their class this way. Look here, I main a ranger, what choice we rangers have? as we watch in complete shock as Arena.net slowly killing our class bit by bit.

We can yell and scream all we want, nothing is going to happen.

Arena.net should be the main focus of our discouragement, not thief, not war, not any body else.

So Stop fighting each other and focus on Arena.net; let them know how we feel and that we need change and that we will not take it anymore.

Let them know, we’ve had enough of Favoritism, and no longer will tolerate it.

As the saying goes, “one who plays Favorite, starts a wildfire”

And this wildfire is the cause of us “at each other’s throats”

(favoritism- the unfair practice of treating some people better than others)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/favoritism

Favoritism consists of

- getting away with offenses that others would be punished for
- being granted special privileges
- being granted undeserving privileges
- being able to never commit any offenses in the eyes of their creator.

Penalty

Because of unequal treatment, we are hurt, helpless and defenseless.

So warrior again, what’s new about this class?

Nothing actually, yet another Disappointment with the “Balance” team. Why am i using quote with the word Balance?

Well because, it does not mean what it mean.

The word Balance that i know; is having both strength and weakness- positive and negative.

This Warrior class has neither whatsoever, so that makes sense.

The “Balance” we have in this game is; having Everything and Anything,.

Well, nothing to add here.

So getting back to this issue with Unbalance Warrior class excelling in high mobilities, Arena.net higher-ups need to step in and lock this class in place and strip it all the way done to nothingness and balance it from the ground up.

Enough of this Super out of control class getting away with destroying everything in its path, with no punishment or having no consequence, whatsoever.

Seriously,

Warrior should be the strongest class in the game, but not having their way to everything and anything on demand.

This menace class need to be put in its place as soon as possible

First of all, i don’t know why the Op; a necromancer using the word “OP” in his thread to begin with?

So if every class can Power Critic and necromancer does it too, does it make them “OP” for doing so?

By the way, nice videos.

I’ve been enjoying playing my low level necromancer since the first day and since than, i have no regrets at all.

Anything to help make this class much stronger, i’m in for it but not for provoking Arena.net for nerfs.

Op, your videos have inspired me to make my necromancer a power necromancer, so thank you!

(for the future; please refrain yourself from using the word, OP, because Arena.net is very sensitive about that word. Believe me, they will target, nerf and feel justified for doing so)

Why do think thieves still remain strong till this day?

Would you think they would even for once tolerate anyone jeopardizing their class using that word in their forum?

that’s all i have to say.

Great Job! once again

You are created as a war machine with only 1 purpose; to kill and bring in profit for the economy.

Excessive domination and control, is the key to make you successful for the economy.

Oppression, Injustice and Excessive Power. is the key to make you invincible for the economy.

Armed with a license to commit merciless unjust crimes and to break the game, at any given time, for the economy.

Inflict Fear, Terror, and Hate to anyone who stand in your path, for the economy.

Wake Up Thieves!!

You are not a machine

You are a human being

The Economy is using you

They are your Enemy.

Resist their Oppression

Resist their Control

Resist this Tyranny

we will not be silent

we must defend Justice

we must rise up against Injustice

It is your duty to rise with us,

unite with us

take back our Freedom

“Liberties aren’t given, they are taken.”

take back our Future

take a stand

take back our Freedom

take back our Liberty

Restore our Freedom

Restore our Liberty

Restore Order

Thieves

Rise!!

“He who controls the past controls the future"

Who’s in control? what future?

Injustice, Oppression, Elitism, and Favoritism, is this the future we need?

What is impossible is possible to thief.

In fact, i don’t even check my log anymore, why should i?

i just say to myself, “thief, oh ok”, than i move on..

no big deal.

Sincerely, Op i do embrace your thread requesting thieves to have build diversity.

Unfortunately, there’s a problem.

Thief was designed to have a close minded, selfish, , self centered build. And what do they get in return; no diversity.

Secondly, Thief was not design to have build diversity, they were designed with a 1 kill spam stealth build.

again, the reason why thief class does not have build diversity > “Selfishness leads to nothingness”.

“Diversity is contributing to others”

Thief Diversity, “contributing to self”.

that’s all i have to say.

Feirlista Xv.1425:

How many of those so called 7 ,488 unresolved issues were actually resolved just because an Anet rep or dev didn’t respond to a thread doesn’t mean they went unresolved. it is most likely they resolved there issue and didn’t bother to post how they did it or they had an overinflated ego like the OP has and just didn’t bother to try because the think their PC is perfect.

so you’re saying. the fact that, those of us who post our new computers compnents descriptions; (in hope for a solution), are boosting our “ego”?

Are you serious?

So me saying i have 16g of memory is “showing off”?

So.. what’s the point of providing any information if that’s the attitude we are getting in return?

Maybe that’s the reason why these problems are intentionally being unresolved due to the sake of ’showing off".

Lastly,

How about if some of those people completely left the game out of frustration altogether?

why would they even bother continuing posting the same problems, over and over again, and knowing that it is will always be their fault, no matter what. Oh yea! and for “showing off”?

why do you think i’ve kept silence for a time?, so to you.. during that time; the game was working fine until i reported having problems?

So let us all pretend there are no problems as long we don’t report them in the forum, everything will be fine.

In other word, the solution to this problems, including others; is to remain in complete silent.. a.k.a “shut up” or to pretend “everything is working as attended”.. a.k.a quit.

I’m not too far from doing so, as well.

tolunart.2095:

So, you created a brand new thread today, to say that you won’t repeat yourself, even though you offer no new information. Why?

The problem is not in the game itself, and therefore it is beyond Anet’s capacity to make your computer work correctly.

Crashing while attempting to logg in the client
Crashing after logging in the client
Crashes while being idle
Crashing while not being idle
Crashing while roaming
Crashing while not roaming
Crashing with the zerg
Crashing without the zerg
Crashing attempting to wp
Crashing after wp

so many and many

Seriously,

what information on that list is new?

ProphetSword.5427:

Burnfall.9573:

thanks for the correction ProphetSword,

my ram is working properly and as i said before, i have no problems of any crashing whatsoever, while running new mmo’s or current mmo’s, except this one.

If that checks out, other issues that might cause regular crashes include something overheating, a driver that is conflicting with something, etc. What does it say when it crashes?

I appreciate your willingness to help me including Seera

i had given all my crash logs, data’s to Arena.net since the beginning, so i come to the point where i no longer can repeat myself over and over again.

they are fully aware of the continuous crashes in this game, yet word alone can not fix them but action.

Action is what Hundred and thousands including myself, been waiting so long for, yet so far… none.

As the saying goes, “A man is judged by his deeds, not by his words”.

that’s all we are asking for, Arena.net

Your Action

(i know you can make it happen)

ProphetSword.5427:

Burnfall.9573:

Knaifhogg.5964:

Are you sure your RAM is working properly? Don’t think for one second your case isn’t extremely rare.

i have 16GB of ram, so no

I can run the latest mmo’s without any problems, yet guild wars 2… another story.

He didn’t ask how much RAM you had. He asked if it was working properly, which is a completely different question. Bad RAM can make most anything crash.

thanks for the correction ProphetSword,

my ram is working properly and as i said before, i have no problems running new mmo’s or current mmo’s whatsoever, except this one.

Ayrilana.1396:

What are the stats of your computer?

Ayrilana, i would like to but not anymore; i am so very tired of doing this.

Knaifhogg.5964:

Are you sure your RAM is working properly? Don’t think for one second your case isn’t extremely rare.

i have 16GB of ram, so no

I can run the latest mmo’s without any problems, yet guild wars 2… another story.

Jrunyon.3012:

I crash exactly 0 times a day unless I do something to cause it.

So if your computer doesn’t have anything wrong with it, is it mine that has something wrong with it to make it not crash?

Also, where exactly did you pull that ridiculous number from?

i encourage you to count them

anything else?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech?page=2

There are 416 pages in the Tech Support Forum, 7,488 reported crashes in the same forum, yet till this day = 0 zero solution.

I’m crashing 8 times per hour, i gave away all my report data’s, i conduct every repair, “fix” solutions, yet no changes whatsoever.

I even can run 4 of the latest mmo’s in the same time, with high settings..with 0zero crashings whatsoever.

After 15 months of guild wars 2 release, where does it end?

Arena.net, you do know there are hundreds, thousands of people who are desperate to play and enjoy this game right?

You also do know there are hundreds, thousands of your players who abruptly left this game because of your intents right?

You also realize there are hundreds, thousands of your players who invested hundreds, thousands of dollars to play this game, only to find out that they can’t play this game without having constant problems right?

To my surprise, they are even told that their new computers were outdated..

This was the first reported crash; September 4, 2012, yet it still remains)

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Weird-crashes-that-force-me-to-reboot/first#post6355

So why are you intentionally preventing them/us, from playing this game?

you do know mace is a slow weapon?

ok nvm

anything to slow thief down, you have my vote

>>The Truth<<

Viking Jorun.5413:

Let me know when you see a dev thief!

you won’t know, they’re in stealth

Personally, i find them both; Finish Them Off….and the Down State as a Worthless mechanic in this game.

Seriously,

Especially when downed by a thief, they’re totally garbage and useless… because as we know, they don’t work against thief in stealth.

Period!

Total Pathetic Mechanic and a Total Fail Mechanic that need to thrown in the garbage.

oh wait! i forgot, only 2 worthless skills are automatically available to us. So…by the time the other worthy skills are activated, available, we are already dead.

To non OP thieves. how many times do Down State have saved you?

Why not have all down skills automatically available to us?

Oh wait! i have the answer? to Intentionally CONTROL US AND MAKE US Fail.

Seriously, these ridiculous mechanics totally SHAME Guild Wars. What kitten me off is how they intentionally used Guild Wars name to leverage guild wars 2.

Which to me is cruel and heartless.

In conclusion rally does a better job, so why not implement rally instead?

Let me add one thing, Everything that were good in guild wars, are thrown in the garbage in guild wars 2. Everything that were thrown in the garbage by guild wars, are implemented in guild wars 2.

I encourage anyone to disagree with me.

pinkbunnies.4620:

First time seeing one of these in the wild… I think someone spooked it cause it disappeared mysteriously.

this Arena.net ranger staff could be the rangers’ Future?

pinkbunnies.4620:

Mahaedros.7085:

On my server, I see a lot of people playing Rangers. Not everyone plays a warrior.

lol

Maugetarr.6823:

Burnfall.9573:

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Burnfall.9573:

He answered, “look this is all we can do, so get over it”

So…….

Isn’t this the same way Arena.net look at thief class?

Not even close. To the tree trimmer, it is profitable for them to come back several times a year to trim the tree. There is no profit on “trimming” the Thieves because the nerfs we received is similar to “plucking out the tree.”

no

when you pluck out the tree, you pluck their roots

no matter what trimming (nerfs) thieves get, they are still OP?

like the tree branches; they’ll keep growing.

why not just redesign the thief root and start over?

why not just plant a new tree that doesn’t grow to much?

why not just redesign a thief that would not be OP?

wouldn’t that make sense?

wouldn’t you agree?

….since when does code regenerate once values are changed? Are there subroutines in this game that slowly increase variable values over time such that they need to be “pruned” every so often?

have thief Op status increased or decreased over time by the trimmings (nerfs)?

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Burnfall.9573:

He answered, “look this is all we can do, so get over it”

So…….

Isn’t this the same way Arena.net look at thief class?

Not even close. To the tree trimmer, it is profitable for them to come back several times a year to trim the tree. There is no profit on “trimming” the Thieves because the nerfs we received is similar to “plucking out the tree.”

no

when you pluck out the tree, you pluck their roots

no matter what trimming (nerfs) thieves get, they are still OP?

like the tree branches; they’ll keep growing.

why not just redesign the thief root and start over?

why not just plant a new tree that doesn’t grow to much?

why not just redesign a thief that would not be OP?

wouldn’t that make sense?

wouldn’t you agree?

Today i had a very interesting experience that i would like to share especially on this thread.

As i was going about my business, i noticed a landscape company cutting branches from this huge tree that been causing alot of problems..

As i watched them, i stepped in and ask one of the workers, why not just pluck the tree from the ground and problem solved.

His answers will not surprise you, “it is is worth it!, as long we can keep an eye on the branches, it’ll be okay”

So i persisted, ’yea i hear you, but why not just pluck tree, and not worry about coming back over and over again"

He answered, “look this is all we can do, so get over it”

So…….

my question to you..

Isn’t this Arena.net ways of not resolving thief Op status with wasted nerfs?

nxk.1932:

Hello,
You think that Anet planning add a new longbow without ponies or flowers, longbow for mens?

i would hope so.

E Tan.7385:

IMHO, i dont really ask Thief Nerf.

BUT in WvW thoses perma thief are just totaly OP
So what i would like to see its, on somes skills of all others class, something that can :

• Stop the stealth if the skill hit a thief in stealth
  Or / and
• Prevent them to be able to stealth for 2-4sec

Actualy, ( no speaking of the anti-steath trap or the siege weapon anti stealth ) its the ONLY thing that dont have ANY single counter
Conditions have anti condition, boons have boons remove, damage have block.. etc
But stealth…. nothing !

I agree that thoses skills might be a problem for the mesmer, since the mesmer stealth is far away to be as OP as the thief stealth.
So yeah its should be somes anti-stealth nearly only against thief.

Or just prevent the thief of beeing able to perma stealth. because actualy they are really way to lame with that “ability”

E Tan, you’re absolutely correct.

This also proves that Arena.net Intentionally allowed this to happen.

Example; would you forgive someone who mistakenly hurt you? or someone who Intentionally hurt you?

i rest my case.

Oghier.7419:

There’s one Heartseeker in that video. This is a thread about Heartseeker spam.

Also, 1-2-3? I count (traited) Steal, Cloak and Dagger, Backstab, Auto-attack, Auto-attack, Heartseeker… downed. So that’s six actions, during which time the ranger (is that you? ) took four actions:

- He told the pet to attack (melee pets are weak in WvW), which resulted in zero damage

- He tried to fire a ground-targetted AoE. This was countered by the thief’s elite, Basilisk Venom

- He evaded. At this point, he’s already eaten a traited steal, a CND, a backstab and some autoattacks. Against a thief, evade is not the right answer here

- He attacked with what looks like a Swoop. This mistake ends the fight

Against most thieves, you need to have your heal ready and fire it off early. A lot of things happen in many thief specs when the target hits 50% health (the thief probably gains Fury, and he may gain +20% damage, depending on spec). And at 25% health, you’re in deep trouble. You either heal above 25% immediately, or you need to toss up a blind, block or something to prevent the Heartseeker from hitting. You don’t have long to do either.

As I look at that fight, the thief took 50% more actions than the ranger. And everything the ranger did was either useless (melee pet in WvW) or simply incorrect given his situation. So, if the thief pushes more buttons, and the ones you push are the wrong ones, the thief is going to win.

Rangers are also tied with staff elementalists for worst 1v1 class in WvW. Thieves are not the best at it, but they’re top-tier. Moreover, this is a thief built specifically for 1v1 (traited Mug, Basi Venom). That was a mismatch from the start.

Of course, as you look at the fight, the poor ranger did everything right, yet was beaten by an omnipotent, invisible assassin of justice, or whatever.

1v1’s against competent players are hard. Learn, and you get better. Whine, and you won’t. Also… try not playing a ranger, especially not a solo roamer with a melee pet. That’s a recipe for losing most encounters.

This is what saddens me Oghier, before Arena.net unjust onslaught against the ranger class, our pets were doing 2k-8k damage. So than, were the good times to melee with pets.

Now, we rangers are left with no other choice but to melee;. Our axe damage is pathetic, our sword could be better, greatword seem to work when it wants to; that’s pretty much it.

Everyone seem to think rangers are viable with melee, in fact it is not true at all.

This is our purpose to thief class..

to be freely killed by them

“if you give a lion meat to eat, wouldn’t the lion eat it?”

this is why i do not blame thieves or fault them for instantly killing us within seconds.

Look here…

why do every thieves see us as a free meal?

because we are.

Azure.8670:

Burnfall.9573:

Ardenwolfe.8590:

The strange thing about pets and ANet is when they worked, and worked well in World-versus-World, they get gutted.

That guard, stealthed cat, critical-hit combination was epic . . . devastating . . . and then it was nerfed like crazy. So, yes, pets do work, but it almost seems like ANet doesn’t want them to.

Another example, the Hyena and Spirits-combination was THE spec in PvP during beta. The hyena could summon an equal-level companion, and the healing combination from the spirits was also devastating.

You know what happened. Hyena’s damage was reduced as was the companion’s. Spirits got gutted too. And that spec became obsolete.

So, I’m not buying this ‘we have no idea’ excuse about pets. The trend is whenever something does work or is powerful for ranger, it gets gutted . . . hard.

Bleed-spec? Gutted. Longbow bug with frenzy? Nerfed with record speed. And on and on.

I call BS. They know. How shameful is it to admit you don’t know how to fix an issue in your own game rather than to actually admit you don’t want it to be fixed instead?

The developer who used to speak for rangers on these boards quit in a huff for a reason.

correction; they were fired including robert.h, for supporting rangers.

Actually I spoke to a dev about this in game and he says Robert actually left for another job opportunity.

I’m not going to argue with you because you are entitled to believe what you want

But one thing you must always remember,

as the saying goes, “word is death, and action is life”

since day 1, all i have witness for our class, is death.

you decide?

(last time life was given to us and was immediately taken from us by death)

Bazzoong.7145:

HS will never hit for 7k,not even if you have 0 armor and are below the 30% hp treshold, I smell BS in your post.

If it would you`d be dead after 3 hits (plus the auto attacks) that could hardly be called “spam”, I smell more BS.

On a side note: I have been called HS spammer while useing a short bow. Usually people do not even have a clue what kills them.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

The strange thing about pets and ANet is when they worked, and worked well in World-versus-World, they get gutted.

That guard, stealthed cat, critical-hit combination was epic . . . devastating . . . and then it was nerfed like crazy. So, yes, pets do work, but it almost seems like ANet doesn’t want them to.

Another example, the Hyena and Spirits-combination was THE spec in PvP during beta. The hyena could summon an equal-level companion, and the healing combination from the spirits was also devastating.

You know what happened. Hyena’s damage was reduced as was the companion’s. Spirits got gutted too. And that spec became obsolete.

So, I’m not buying this ‘we have no idea’ excuse about pets. The trend is whenever something does work or is powerful for ranger, it gets gutted . . . hard.

Bleed-spec? Gutted. Longbow bug with frenzy? Nerfed with record speed. And on and on.

I call BS. They know. How shameful is it to admit you don’t know how to fix an issue in your own game rather than to actually admit you don’t want it to be fixed instead?

The developer who used to speak for rangers on these boards quit in a huff for a reason.

correction; they were fired including robert.h, for supporting rangers.