You kill the pvp community if there is no unique difference between prestique pvp players and a common casual pve players. Esp if you allow pve earned material to be used in pvp (im talking about legendaries)
gw1 has unique recognition of pvp high or hard earned achievers which makes the game special.
Oh yea? How can you call those who tirelessly defend blazeridge gorge from scarlet’s minions every day common casuals? Does their sacrifice mean nothing to you? What of the massive zerg herders who trample other zerg herders day in and day out in PvE hoping to win the season for the server?
I am offended and appalled, sir.
Guardian .. or Banner Warrior.
Oh this is an kitten thread?
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Who is this guy ;;o_o I dunno. …
I was tricked!
I kinda skimmed the post and read “who runs arcane thievery”
Also yea; these self titled posts by special snowflakes are getting really annoying;
I don’t care if you’re top 100 o_o Everyone who plays pvp is in the top 100
No need to start a new thread about something that’s being discussed already with your name infront(not @gracias specifically but whatevs..
In before Senotix posts a video explaining why he should be the only one making self titled posts.
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Hi Jon!
I’ll have to agree with 5G;
It’s hilarious to talk about Clutter when minionmancers/spiritrangers/Phantasms mesmers see play. PETTING ZOO META!
It would not be clutter if you could only see the endurance bar of one guy that you have targeted. Still I would much rather see Casting bars; or both.
You guys got me thinking: since last data mine, we know that legendaries are included in the game and have PVP versions. However, we do not know how it will be implemented and how we could obtain them. After reading this blog entry, I’m kind of afraid that those are probably skins converted from PVE, which means the only way to get a PVP legendary, is to get it from PVE…
There were dark crystals too; that were supposedly going to be currency of some sort;
BUT Im guessing those changes got tossed as they realised that the whole pvp community would have legendaries day one…
Have you been saving your glory/chests? I have.. I have a lot. and I don’t even have close to what some people have.
Removal of rank and rank finishers? Sounds like an excuse to buy finishers in the gem store, and I did not farmed my rank on glory farm servers. But many did so this “To honor the effort that players have put into the rank system, existing players will be able to keep all unlocked rank finishers and will earn a special title based on your rank to show that you were there from the start.” is not viable.
New finishers from ladder system O_o chill your humps.
Not everything is a money grab, this certainly doesn’t look like one to me.. and if it is? That’s good more pver’s spending money on pvp the more attention pvp gets
>>>>> Pvp might even get a dev team with more then 2 guys working graveyard shifts cynically making suggestions they know PVE team will shut down.
Also; notice no distinction is ever made between wvwvw and PvE in the blog post? just Pvp and PvE?
Wvwvw=Pve+ confirmed.
Dat 6 minute post timer is killing me guys..
I’m optimistic as I could give 2 * less about pvp rewards, but others care so others will play pvp hopefully,
BUT.. all I read was ; Time to start farming pve for t3 cultural/Nightmare gear cause pve’rs all gonna be dragons with sweet particle effect legendbananas
yea if they buffed arcane thievery it could be the best condi removal for mesmers; 3boons helps a lot too; warrior rshing your point with 7might fury ? steal :d
Could use Cd reductions 30s seems to be okay for a dodgeable condiclear..
Mesmer best fun class to play.. much skill ceiling, many clutch plays very amaze.
I don’t really find that Mesmer spec OP or cheap at all, both shatter and phantasm are pretty well balanced [to me], PU/condition on the other hand, that’s some cheap kitten
Pu/condition is only OP 1v1.. you literally never see a pu mesmer in team que.. and if you do you laugh at them and steam roll them because it;s basically 4v5
I run it when I need it.. lately I haven’t needed it in TQ but if I was soloque I’d be running it..
Sometimes I swap for nullfield..
I’m 20/20/00/30 and S/focus GS or staff when I need it .. Portal or blink, Decoy and mirror images..
!stsihsaf jdfajkl wow really ? Max the drunk champ ?:/ some guy named Pennies was banned too, anet is just goin too far…
Shhh or they’ll take your great ideas to their logical conclusions and decide to charge gems to play team/soloque
Half and half?
Pretty sure a lot of people run the same builds till they burn out of the meta because they’re unwantd, but then again a lot of players are fair weather OP to OP class jumpers.
Some people still run builds that shouldn’t function.. like shatter mesmer and staff ele…
I’d rather have cast bars instead of endurance bars :/
0 Day pvp ready was what sold me on gw2…
and for all the things it did wrong, normalized pvp makes up for it in a big way.
Apparently no one cares that two maps are broken mechanic wise :/ Advertising for a quicker fix, get on it anet.
Liadri.. hahahahaah pve dudes up in this mofo.
There’s no way to tell really.. just don’t worry about it and pretend you’re the best like every other gw2 player.
You can Kill the trebuchet and the keep door pre-match if you do it right after the gate/treb resets… repeatable.
Make Stability first to be stripped, at all times.
- Increases skillcap for bunkers – ten fold.
- Nerfs Lyssa -slightly.
At the moment bunkers with 10 boons at all times have no counterplay to their stability,
Lyssa Thieves can get free Instant kills on shatter mesmers because they cannot be CC’d
So far only A K has been able to insta-kill me consistently after a beer, so I am not sure if every thief can do it or if it’s even possible when I’m not drunk…
Assuming no one has any life or family or thanksgiving plans…
Yea anet won’t release numbers, cause pvp population has been stagnating for quite some time now…
+1 Great ideas…
but anet wants to raise the skill floor not lower it.. imagine the average warrior with these new abilities.. hurr durr I spam buttons now?
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I agree, we need to buff one of the hardest to play specs/classes……..
I mean if one minionmancer forces a 2v1 on home point just to kill him surely he needs more viable choices for utilities.
Minionmancer is one of the strongest far point assault builds available right now.
MM should not be a viable spec, it should be an under performing spec.
Bad players? Don’t even joke a good MM can win 1v1 against almost any tournament specced player…
This is in my eyes just as bad as asking for buffs to Prismatic understanding mesmers.
Disagree; Pvp Population close to zero, Soloque is hotjoin+ and if you want a pro team play tq with your team.
Progression? uhh… sure
Yes you look like a bawss in sPVP, which is the only game mode anyone should care about.
Yes soloque matchmaking should place you with newbs, ignore the bads screaming at you for queing at rank1 and just tell em to stuff it cause Soloque is Hotjoin+
I honestly think that 10 choices of stat distribution is the most you are going to get… Reasonably if you min/max for whatever role, sure some amulets don’t exist
Healing Power/ Toughness / Vitality
(For good reason, in a conquest based structure)
I don’t get why 10 choices are not enough for some people, especially with rune choices.
The reason that there are more combinations for Wvwvw is because the devs have stated there is no point in balancing Wvwvw.
Yea please scrap the reward system and give me this instead
best reward.
Halting Strike: Yes i am a mesmer and since this post aims to show an objective point of view i also have to talk about this trait…when you talk about halting strike you talk about – instant – damage that can reach up to 3-4k (not dodgeable) imo it should either be removed completely or the dmg nerfed
Lol what?.. Who even runs halting strike… who even runs mesmers?
YES please.
-Rank by character not account
If I farmed 56 ranks of glory using an Engi 100% of the time then it’s silly I get credit for being a “rank 56” guard if I never played one before.
Rank != Skill and everyone knows this, stupid change as the only thing that rank is, is cosmetic gear, this has been suggested by wvwvwers over and over again but they have no idea what they’re talking about.
If you had to get rank 56 more then once you would shoot yourself in the head I guarantee it.
Itttttttt’s the circle of life.
You should never ever be setting up camp on a point for any amount of time… basically: You’re making baseless conclusions on top of false assumptions.
Play team/solo que and see if that strategy works past the 900s
Anet keeps introducing powerful passives..
30 Earth, Condi immunity trait for eles
+% conversions and damage% increases for bad minor traits
etc etc…
Shatter mesmer much harder to play when these things are around; I either stick to my guard or necro .. or have to Massinvis and lose a point.
Also dodging iLeap > Frenzy from stealth is probably the easiest thing for me personally.. you see the clone leaping out at you lol.. unless he’s pointblank range you’re gtg.
Shatter clones follow about 900 feet so if you’re running in a straight line and do a small leap skill you’re going to never be caught..
Skills like Longbow 5 and pistol 5 (Mesmer) are basically undodgeable.. and might need to be changed slightly.
Maybe having 6 bleeds on one skill is a bad idea, maybe?.. maybe having 8 bleeds on one other skill is a bad idea..
Condie warriors would not be so strong if they didn’t have healsignet zerk stance endure pain and maybe shield stance (based on offhand choices)
Proves for a very non-glass glass condie bomber.. very strong in duos too with a class that can cover the bleeds with useless conditions, like an engi or an necro.
I think Epidemic necros will come back in a big way with condi warriors rotating into the meta.
Whatever, I still haven’t found it in my options and I’ve been looking for it with Peow Peow for like 20 minutes.
5k Arcing Arrow on a condi build? You should try playing with armor on. :P
It’s happend to me.. okay maybe not 5k
3-4k~ crits.. All the time. As a Shatter mesmer it hurts.
I don’t know if he was running Rampager’s amulet, but the damage on arcing arrow is getting nerfed for a reason.
Still basically invulnerable while the Damage ticks with sheild stance or endure pain/zerkstance.
Edit; My mistake it’s Combustive Shot that’s getting nerfed.. Anet y u bad at balance… nerf the 4k arrow crits.. :/
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It’s pretty ridiculous against classes not running many condi-clears who depend on teammates like guardian..
Condi Duel build Warrior makes me cry every time.
Zero skill required hit a couple of buttons Maybe Ranged torment Maybe do a flurry wait out the dodges Weaponswitch
LONGBOW
MUH
FUGIN
5
FIRE FIELD 5k crit Exploding Arrow gg
Oh and if you can frontload a 16 bleed stack with a necro to signet of spite>Epidemic it in a team fight? Full condies +17 bleeds on 2 guys at least gg.
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False, hitting I’m ready button doesn’t start the game faster, it’s a remnant from beta no one knows what really happens if everyone hits it.
Yes please this
A PU condie mesmer is already an incredibly strong build. If all of those changes you mentioned were introduced, I could probably win a 3v1 against competent players without breaking a sweat.
Also, if you think the ramp-up on condie mesmer is too long, you’re doing it wrong. If you’re facing an aggressive opponent, the ramp up from 0 to 6+ bleed, 5 torment, burn, cripple, vuln, weakness, 5 confusion is roughly 5-7 seconds.
Really? Please list me the amount of condi mesmers in tournament teams, let alone top leaderboards.
I don’t care about what you can 1v3 given that PU build is a stealth spam build and cannot hold or debunk a point.
I don’t see this as a reason to buff an unwanted Skillcap=Skillceiling cheesy playstyle.
No one runs 1v1 builds in high end tpvp period.
Actually; Lyssa runes were in use even before by players like Jumper, It takes quite a long time to find the new OP rune set;
Svanir>Nerfed>Air>Nerfed>Melandru>Nerfed>Lyssa>Nerfed?
@nevirsaydie
Balance changes based on Zerg V Zerg is just as silly as Balancing based on PVE..
It’s basically the same game mode in my eyes.Warriors were overbuffed for SPVP too.. No one is safe from bad balance changes.
Right, I’m not saying otherwise. However, the claim was “PvP players are second-class citizens” and the rebuttal was “but the majority of balance changes across all three modes are (rightly) made based on PvP.”
I agree that there have been some unfortunate balance patches in the last 6 months, but the point is that they were done based on feedback from PvP (forums and internal data).
At the same time this is true and false; when we ask devs about why certain common sense changes aren’t implemented Dev’s always answer “hey we don’t wanna split skills, wvw/pve are important aspects of our game and we want players to feel like they know what their skills are switching game modes” or when asked why the pvp balance team is doing such an odd job they will answer “There is no Pvp balance team, only the balance team, i.e pve/wvwvw/pvp” Sure yes most of the changes to classes have been because of pvp, but not all of the changes that are good for pvp have gone in because the game is balanced based on pve/wvwvw too, I said devs would be idiots for balancing based on those game modes but that doesn’t mean that they don’t, they actually do.
Balance aside, PvP players want content, and we haven’t gotten any since Skyhammer (all praise is given for this map though, which is awesome)
The argument should have been “Pvp Players; Second class citizens in regards to Content” Because we get nothing every 2 weeks, while PvE/wvwv gets new maps seasons skins etc etc etc
Also; in before Justin O’dell shows up and proves me wrong , who’s doing a fantastic job on these here forums.
Templates
New Maps
Build Diversity.
PU condi mesmer with scepter/torch is one of the best and cheesiest 1v1 builds in the game currently while still having team support, and you want to improve it?
I think the rate of condition application is fine right now.
Why Improve it? Because bad mesmers need a crutch that’s tpvp viable.
Plus you’re already getting a small buff with 5% more condi damage.
Also now that Phantasm celerity is at 15 you can probably off spec Illusions for maximum cheese.
Also Arcane Thievery on a 30 second CD would not be too much to ask Methinks.
Condi cleanse that can miss if you’re facing the wrong way or blinded on a 45 second cd?, mm Yea sounds like the best skill to use.
Edit: 45 and the letter s are filtered, GG anet, gg
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I’m a mesmer and I run lyssa, why? because I can get out of a 3v1 easily any time I want.
Lyssa is over the top mega super duper OP.
I could see it start eating 5 condies and giving 5 boons(No stab) after necro/engies/Condie warriors are gutted a little or having a 100s ICD
Search function not working? Yea that’s true..
Don’t need a search function when there’s a skyhammer thread on every page
Including front page. (2 with this one)
@nevirsaydie
Balance changes based on Zerg V Zerg is just as silly as Balancing based on PVE..
It’s basically the same game mode in my eyes.
Warriors were overbuffed for SPVP too.. No one is safe from bad balance changes.
Theres a disgusting staff ele build running rampant in solo que.. with Max Deeps/Bunker capability.
but I’ve only seen one guy pull it off well….
Soloque has been pretty much Super random lately..
Went from 95~ since the beginning of the new matchmaking to 340
Maybe because I’ve been running shatter instead of bunky condition duel build
but team arena has been fun..
Team Arena:
R77 Darnis.4056 Pink Puma 598 518 53.58% Blackgate
Wish I had a template for soloque/Teamque would help me a lot ;3
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Any class can run a duel build o_O… and any class can decimate others without a duel build.
Mesmer Ranger Engineer and warriors probably the nastiest though…