Guild Wars 2

By the description given, everyone should have said Staff Ele. Magic, Range, and CC is certainly Staff Ele.

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Elementalist_-_Celestial_Staff

This isn’t the only way to Staff Ele but, it’s pretty good.

The worst part of PvP is exemplified by the last Ranked match I was in. Right after the jump two on my “team”, I was solo Q’ing, left the match and stuck us with a 3v5. I kept trying hard so we can at least get the score to maybe 200 or 300 points. We already had over 100 and was hopeful we could do it. Next thing I know the remaining two on my team are just standing in spawn waiting for the match to end. I asked in map chat if anyone in the match isn’t playing for the leaderboard. They all said they weren’t! Some didn’t even know Ranked matches count for points on the leaderboard. Oy vey……

There’s nothing more annoying than getting stuck with a -3 and being completely helpless to do anything about it. That’s the past couple of hours erased in 5 minutes. THAT makes me not want to play.

With all the “reasons” given for why Turret Engi was/is a bad build, how does Pew Pew Rangers not teach a similar bad behavior? This past match the enemy teams top personal scorer was a Ranger that camped LB the entire match. That’s all he did was sit behind his teammates at max ranger and pew pew away. He probably looks at that score and believes he’s contributing the most.

Even I don’t like these Premades. Last night I found one of the biggest complainers on the forums about Turret Engi running 3 in their group. Flying Turrets in ridiculous fashion no less! Before that another Premade of 5 I fought twice. Luckily, these trollish premades are few it seems. They are easily beaten if you know what to do as the video shows.

Was your team all from the same region/location? Could explain why only one team cut out and not the other.

Soul Sandman.8204:

I’m dying here

and his character is too!

:)

Anyways, I’ve been experiencing an odd sort of lag or out of sync. Where my character still moves and everything seems fine, then BAM!!! insta-dead. I look at my combat log afterwards and see about 5-10 attacks that never appeared on my screen. Just had it on my Ranger actually. A Necro Lich’d and I hit GS #4 counter attack. My character was blocking without the counter kick. I’m like “Yeah Baby!” then then next thing I see is my character downed. It’s been happening the past couple of weeks.

Here’s s clip for you

https://youtu.be/Yb76AobIgcU

Sagat.3285:

DeWolfe.2174:

For me, Condi shatter is one of, if not the worst, build in game. If any build deserves to be removed from the game, it’s that one.

Why? You just putted yourself at OP’s level.

Because I’m not even going to list how poor this game style is. Being mostly a WvW player, I’ve seen far more of this build than in sPvP.

For me Condi shatter is one of, if not the, worst build in game. If any build deserves to be removed from the game, it’s that one.

StickerHappy.8052:

DeWolfe.2174:

Caedmon.6798:

Grab reflect and let them eat the rapid fire,or they knock themselves back,or you can steal their lb 3 stealth which is the most fun imo.

Because every build has reflects that are viable and have 8sec cd?

LB Power Rangers need toning down. I’m against high burst builds period.

Tell to that to your engie class, what do you get for the changes? A lot of good stuff right?

I wish rangers were also meta like your engies. You wish to tone down a class that is not even a part of the meta? LOL.

If the range was 1200 and you could be equally hit it wouldn’t be as bad. But, Rangers can get terrain advantages and simply camp LB from safety. That situation has to go bye bye. Then remove some of the vulnerability too. Applying 15 stacks in a couple of seconds is too much as well.

btw, I have 3 Rangers as well. I’m simply stating what needs to be toned down for balance.

Caedmon.6798:

Grab reflect and let them eat the rapid fire,or they knock themselves back,or you can steal their lb 3 stealth which is the most fun imo.

Because every build has reflects that are viable and have 8sec cd?

LB Power Rangers need toning down. I’m against high burst builds period.

It should be Quaggans, baby Golems, Kittens, or Bunnies!

Define skill? And please, do not list it as needing to button mash faster. Which most of these request end up being.

If any build needs to be looked at next, it’s pew pew Rangers. Being able to camp LB from an advantage point most of the match shouldn’t be a thing. At least Warriors are getting on point.

Aztex.4895:

become more faithful to this game mode

Now you know exactly why such design decisions are made. To encourage players to try and play all the game modes. I have little doubt it’s the Llama’s driving so many into the tournament too.

Noticing they moved Turret traits and some Healing traits around on the trait lines. I agree with Turret being on the Inventions line. That just sounds like a solid definition of an Invention. Though shouldn’t healing traits be in Alchemy line? Just the sound of it, healing and Alchemy go better together to me.

Didn’t they say it was getting rolled in as a default now?

It should be Quaggans! Little Golems would be cute too but, Quaggans better.

Conncept.7638:

Elixir infused bombs on the other hand was something truly unique and interesting and most of all, incredibly fun, if only the developers had ever given it some love so that players would even try it out.

Couldn’t agree more. Some love should be given to Bomb’s. My Bomb build is lost in this feature pack.

Ithilwen.1529:

I don’t agree. Shatters do pathetic damage a lot of the time.

LOL…. no ones believing this!

So the question I’m wondering is, should we do as many map completes now or wait until this next feature pack hits? Thoughts anyone???

mike.3592:

No becuause they are to involved with making an expansion to please investors then fixing things that would please the consumer.

This consumer is very pleased with my Turret Engi build, very pleased indeed. I can’t even play it as often as I would like because of all the whiny kids today. It’s not even the triple turret build people complain most about. People see a single turret and they instantly go all Jersey Shore guy meme.

You can thank the Dungeon community for this. The stack and Icebow spamming has gotten out of control. I’m with the dev’s on this one.

ukuni.8745:

it was a very short duration, seems more like an aoe daze then anything else,

Exactly! Maybe they should change it to turning the characters into Quaggans or maybe Kittens. Something funny and different. Right now I’m guessing Moa’s was the placeholder used.

Though, umm…. Can Anet contact mouse manufacturers like Razor? My Naga is out of buttons for an F5 skill

In Josh we trust!

Like in real life, our money should be in a bank. We only carry a limited amount in our wallet.

Akumetsu.8591:

these nerfs need to happen <3 not because I think turrets are op or underpowered, I do not care for that argument. Turret engis are just amazingly not fun to fight, especially for new players.
I know so many players that tried pvp walked into a few teams that had turret engis on them and do you know what they said ? They said man meow this I’m done its not fun to get beaten by ai. If you get beaten by a better player that’s fine often you get to see some swanky stuff they are pulling to beat you and the reaction is actually positive in your head. Getting beaten by ai is nothing but frustrating. I’m sure some one (if any one replies to my post) will say but rotations! That beats turret engis.
I am only talking about the new pvper experience here. This build fundamentally makes that experience less fun and thus we lose potential members of our pvp community :’(.

New players wouldn’t even know what is or isn’t AI or Passives. I’m pretty certain getting ganked by any burst build is going to turn off new players more than anything. Thieves and Mesmer’s have been inducing rage since launch.

Every server is different. Even within the server there will be exceptions too.

The only general consensus is that blue is the main map pin as it always was. I’m hoping they add another couple of colors soon though.

phys.7689:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Q: Will the fall damage trait be removed and implemented into each class as a basic class feature?

most logical guess, fall damage will be tied to some core mastery. The special effects other than reduction will probably disapear

A Warrior without Death from Above available is choc full of fail. Bad Dev’s, bad….

TheFantasticGman.9451:

Question:

Will we finally get a build system that I can clicka button and it instantly puts on my traits/skills where I have programmed them to be? Build Rememberer… I forget what it’s commonly called.

That’d be spiffy.

Build templates

DDCarvalho.2071:

New question:
I am a player who likes to tinker with builds and also enjoys a bit of self-harm. So, I run with a 2-3-3-3-3 mesmer build who dies every time a friendly NPC sneezes near him.
Will I be able to run with my suicide mesmer build on the new system?
If not, I WILL LEAVE THE GAME FOREVER AND NEVER LOOK BACK GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD!

Devs: We’ll miss you!

Me: But you don’t have to lose me, all you have to do is leave me with my self-harm mesmer build and…

Devs: We won’t really miss you.

Me: Ok then .

LOL! I too can’t help but see this as being worse than the N.P.E. changes. The majority of my builds do not use GM traits but, multiple minor and major ones. I also rarely max out lines but spend points across multiple ones.

As someone with several accounts and over 40 characters, I’m concerned how much these potential changes may fubar everything I’ve built since launch.

Also a big one is, superior siege creation without skill points.

exactly what I’m wondering now.

Well done video, kudos!

Hvaran.6327:

Josh Davis.6015:

1v1 me bruv!

http://new4.fjcdn.com/comments/Wot+_8e053ba011ac16d052790d806f561aed.png

<3

Bwahahahahahahahaha

Akikaze.1307:

• Celestial: Ele, War, Engi, Ranger.
  Advantages: Support/Sustain/DPS.
  Disadvantages: uumm….fingers get tired from key spam?

LOL on the key spamming. This is exactly why D/D Ele is my least liked build. It’s so repetitive and tedious that’s it’s hands down the most boring build in game to me.

Josh Davis.6015:

1v1 me bruv!

LOL… Called out!

Lettuce.2945:

It’s STILL GOING TO TAKE A FREAKING LONG TIME TO KILL SAID ENGINEER. You literally need 2-3 people to quickly kill the turret engineer

In my last ranked match of the night, I repeatedly wiped an over reaching Triple Turret Engi. He kept back capping our home and I killed him in under 15 seconds or less 1v. This was on my Thief since it’s the daily. Even on my own Turret Engi build, I have no issues pushing off and killing a Triple Turret Engi. If you noticed that I keep referring to them as Triple Turret Engi’s, that’s because there exists more than one build. This short sighted discussion of THAT build is going to nerf all other Engi’s who use a turret. And, there should be those of us that actually try to USE a turret or crate beyond the simple Toolbelt skills.

Laraley.7695:

A meaningful solution? Do you think it’s been meaningful to have turret engis dominate the leaderboards because it’s so braindead you can farm games while being afk?

sigh, You can’t farm games in ranked while being AFK. Go ahead and try, let’s see how you do with that. The mostly likely result would be the thing getting farmed is you.

I just ran my thief for a few matches since it was the daily. It’s still a slower pacing and less frenetic than on my Turret build. In my last ranked match alone I wrecked a Turret Engi 1v several times. It took only a matter of maybe 8-10 seconds to do so. The Engi kept back capping our home and failed to hold it even with all his Turret’s in place.

If the dev’s have already been running builds on the test server, it’ll most likely be sooner. It’s why many of us are out in force and enjoying what little time our Engi build’s have left.

If I was a Game Director, I’d do whatever I felt was right. After spending a good portion of the day reading threads, it’s easy to see players are very poor developers.

Holy Mother of God…. these complaints! I’ll kindly stand in the middle of the map, wave, and not press another key. Enjoy your free kill.

Please read the FE trait again……

No matter if it’s done by trait or by jumping it still requires the same ranged or AoE technique to destroy the Turrets. So there really isn’t much impact on game play. The issue as I see it is the false reporting. Especially when you are fully aware you are making false accusations of botting.

With the Hover Turret’s in the HoT trailer, I’m assuming Flying to be how Turret’s function in the future. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Dev’s had this planned for a long time. Only implementing some of it early, the incoming damage nerf, because of the forum complaints of late.

ronpierce.2760:

This might actually be a buff to Celestial Rifle turret engineer because the best use for the turrets seems to be the death knock-back which will happen very quickly after the change.

Yes and now that puts even more importance on a single trait. Which for my build, actually isn’t viable so <insert faux rage> I’m salty! GRrrrrr…… Anyways, Engi build diversity is really becoming non existent.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

So, the original poster decided to delete his post and now I look like an idiot :/

Or just weird……. ???

:)

OP, you are more than likely falsely reporting players then. For Turret’s, Ground Targeting has always allowed us to place Turret’s on or against objects. Learn to target and range Turrets. If you have no range option in your build, then kindly unscrew your build.

Anyone thinking the OP mains a might stacking build? How about we reduce the might stacking capacity to even out the professions? Then we can work on other things from there.

The more I read, the more I see players with little to no experience being a Turret Engi in Ranked matches. All they know is they get knocked around and instantly assign blame. Just had a player whom complained and thought the CC was AI driven. I just sighed and continued playing.

As I said before, this make turrets disposable. The Turret build and it’s traits are dead. Now it’s either Cele Engi or no Engi at all. Even my Bomb build that I’ve been running with Turrets is dead. Thumper is only 12k hp and it’ll get nuked down in seconds. The only thing that could be useful would be to trait for “Accelerant-Packed Turrets” and drop turrets just to proc the trait. Which certainly isn’t good enough of a trait to be of used.

NameChange.7892:

TURRETS ,TELL ME DO YOU BLEED ? YOU WILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

OT: The movie will still suck and be polarizing.

How about Turret’s on Dodge trait since they are going to be completely disposable now.