Okay after reading this i found out we in europe have to pay more then americans do?
Normal pack costs $50 wich is € 44.07 and we have to pay € 44.99 wich is $ 51.08 ( $1.08 more Its nothing to say about that is normal)
The deluxe version costs $75 wich is € 66.06 we have to pay € 74.99 wich is $ 85.14 ( $ 10.14 more its huge!!)
The ultimate version costs $100 wich is € 88.08 we have to pay € 99.99 wich is $ 113.53 ( $ 13.53 more, its huge)(I’ve converted this with the status for 20-6-2015 at 00.22 GMT+01)
tax differences. US sales tax averages at about 5.45% european taxes are between 15-27% more or less accounts for the difference.
But why almost no difference on the $ 50 ?
US sales tax is added after so our game goes up passed the sticker price when we pay. Not to mention that VAT in the UK is way higher than the US taxes and with a little bit of simple math you’ll noticed that Anet gets less money from the UK sales after taxes are taken out.
That isn’t on point. It’s just more of the same self-entitled whining, except now it has been given a voice by the media. Whoopdy-doo. How happy you must be to feel ‘validated’ in your ‘outrage.’
Grow up.
^ This dude certainly is mad. Yes so much self entitled whining to have an opinion that the content shown so far for HoT which is less than the first feature pack is not worth 50 dollars. Yes so much crying about how the game was built and SOLD on the premise of persistent FREE content updates and yet her we are 3 years down the road being milked for 50 more dollars.
I’m not mad. I pre-ordered yesterday the moment it became available and look forward to spending hundreds more hours in HoT content.
If you don’t feel the content presently unveiled is worth the price, don’t pre-order yet (or wait until a sale after release). It’s your money and your decision. But coming onto the forums and demanding that new players not get the base game for free, or that veterans are somehow ‘missing out’ is childish and misinformed behavior.
If you want to continue acting like a child, expect to be treated like one.
Only we’re not acting like children and it’s drones like you that are the problem.
Apparently it is acting like a child to express your dislike for being treated like an unimportant nobody when you’ve been a loyal and paying customer for 3 years.
I’ve destroyed countless pieces of useless ascended gear. I;m just going to chalk it up to a silly mistake. Anets got far more important kitten to worry about fixing right now.
They could avoided this bad PR pretty easily, but the players are exaggerating as well.
Not sure how expecting a character slot for an expansion that costs $50 and includes a new class is exaggerating but whatever.
If I buy the standard version could not play with the “Revenant”, because I have not a free slot, this is right?
That is correct, you’ll have to buy a character slot for an extra $10/large sum of gold to play Revenant for the standard edition.
You’re the one who came in telling people to calm down, trying to force your own opinion on others. I simply told you to mind your own business. Don’t make this personal because you don’t like your own medicine.
Mind your own kitten business then. People who don’t think it is worth it and who feel ripped off and who in general don’t like anets shady practices lately are voicing their opinion. If you don’t want to be told you’re wrong then stop telling people not to voice their kitten opinion as well.
As it is it is barely worth $20. They literally haven’t told us anything about it. All we know so far is about 1 map with 3 “levels” aka 1 map. One really kittenty open world boss fight. The Wyvern was easily defeated by a bunch of celestial Revenants who didn’t even know how to play the class in the first beta. Guild Halls which should have arguably been in the game since launch. And masteries which we also don’t know much about….
I still don’t see why people are surprised by this… Anyone that knows GW’s history was not expecting a character slot. EotN, the only true expansion in GW history, did not add a character slot. Even after owning Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall, and EotN, you still had to purchase character slots to have one of every class. This entire thing is being blown up due to player entitlement…
What? While it is true EOTN was GW1s only true expansion and it didn’t have a character slot, it also didn’t add a new class. If it had you better believe we’d have expected a slot for it.
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Hooray! Optimism!
I’m going to buy the expansion, but it’ll probably just be a couple days before launch so I can predownload it. I don’t really have interest in the betas.
You’ll be downloading it anyway, just wont have access to the new stuff. Anet isnt going to maintain two dat files for people who don’t want to upgrade.
It was nowhere, they never confirmed any such thing.
So yeah, if you log in you should get your rewards. The mini, etc, will only go to the first character you log onto in their mail! Do not delete it! There are no replacements!
Because “we’ve revealed all major features” and “they’re hiding a dungeon from us” go together so well…
One of them major features was challenging group content, which they haven’t gone into detail about.
Why would dungeons be excluded from that?
It might, it might not be. It is one of the main issues with this pre-purchase. Much of the reveals were without any real information. How many maps do we really get? Dungeons? Raids? Instanced content at all? New personal/living story? All sorts of ambiguous reveals or lack of information.
Well they said that they are phasing influence out.
- Each day, you may trade a limited amount of influence for favor.
- Once per day, you may use influence to purchase a small boost to your aetherium production.
- Whenever it suits you, you may convert influence to resonance.
from https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/rethinking-guilds/
I recommend a quick read of that whole post.
Good luck with that, anet dissolved their dungeon team a while back. I wouldn’t count on any if much instanced PvE content.
Yes, if you accidentally made a new account instead of upgrading your main account you should definitely contact support and have them close that second account and upgrade your main account.
The way the HoT sale works is it overwrites your account. So your game changes from GW2 to HoT. It assumes everybody is knew so it offers you to download. It isn’t necessary and you have nothing to gain from redownloading. Now we just sit back and wait. If you just updated recently and buy the Ultimate Edition you can relog and collect your digital rewards + gems immediately. You will also noticed a beta character slot for upcoming beta events.
Correct. We DO NOT know. It could be brilliance. It might be utter kitten.
We go to movies not knowing the plot.
We buy books only seeing the cover.
I will listen to the value argument a week after release.
Atually, I usually know the basic plot to a movie. I also figure out what genre a book is and read the back before a purchase. You know that old saying don’t judge a book by it’s cover?
Do you really just walk into stores and buy stuff without any knowledge of what you’re buying? Because if you do, I have these magical beans to sell you.
For those who can’t understand that the real problem is not pricing:
Please press the logout button and ask forgiveness from your English teachers.
There are just as many threads about the cost being to high as there are about any of the other several issues people have with it.
Also that would be Reading Comprehension, it has nothing to do with English
The price being too high does mean people can’t afford it.
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Cost and Value are too separate things. What is the value of HoT? We simply do not know. Anet hasn’t given us any useful information to determine it’s worth. How can we know if it is worth a value of $50 if we don’t know what is in it? Just because you can afford $50 doesn’t mean you will spend it on something not worth $50. I can afford $50 but I wouldn’t buy kitten milk shake. Because a milk shake isn’t worth $50.
They’ve been advertising it as you need to buy the core game for 6 months. Refunds should go back as far as 6 months. It is super shady the way they handled this.
Why would you lose it? You unlocked it to your account. No more reason think you’d lose that than to think you’d lose your armor and weapon skins or your miniatures. No.
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GW1:
Prophecies $50Factions $50 / 2 new classes / +2 slots if linked to existing
Nightfall $50 / 2 new classes / +2 slots if linked to existing
Gw:EN $40 / 0 new classes / +0 slots
– 4 new regions
– 18 dungeons
– 41 new armor sets, including rare, stand-alone piecesAll but GW:EN are stand alone campaigns.
Gw2 $60
HoT $50 / 1 class / +0 slots
– Regina “included the core game as a free bonus to make it easier for new players to get into it.”
You’re comparing EOTN to HoT but EOTN didn’t include a new class. There was no need to add a new slot because you weren’t expecting to play the new class.
Yeah, lets do this! Veterans are upset that they’re being neglected over new users. The clear response is to wipe their progress so new players can pass them! /s
1/10 would not respond seriously.
It would be like going “We’re releasing gliders in HoT!” and then when you get HoT to use the glider you need to pay an extra $10 on top of the cost of HoT to use it.
The price isn’t the problem… the value is. Well price is a little bit of the problem but not the main problem. It is priced too high in relation to other expansions. But more importantly it simply isn’t worth $50 right now and anet is too quiet about telling us what is in it to justify any sort of price close to that at the moment.
100% isn’t a problem, its a choice. If you agree to the terms then join the guild. If you don’t want to follow the guilds rules or don’t disagree no problem, leave the guild. Its clearly not the guild for you.
Actually $40 would be perfectly in line with GW1 pricing. The only expansion GW1 ever had was $40 at release.
Video games have been the same price for decades, inflation has nothing to do with this.
Wow, I feel silly now! Thank you!
Don’t be, a little humor was what these forums needed right now. A lot of crazyness on both sides of the fence right now. Crazy veterans arguing the wrong points and crazy fanboys pretending anet is saintly and isn’t at least partially in the wrong here.
And this right here is why people are kittened off. None of that other nonsense everybody else is claiming or the fanboys are throwing around to misdirect the anger. But all of the things mentioned in this topic so far, from the OP down to the guy above me.
- No character slot in an expansion with a new class.
- Shady advertisement and flat out lies on the HoT FAQ to sell copies of a game they were going to give away within months.
- Still missing tons of information on what is in the expansion.
I’d say the whole gimping Standard to make deluxe and ultimate look better but thats tied in with the character slot so I’ll leave it at that.
How disheartening to see fans completely ignore the issue. Standard edition is a major rip-off. No character slot and costs more than most people even paid for the base game to begin with. Not me of course, I’m a faithful customer since Beta of GW1 and bought the deluxe edition of GW2 on preorder. I feel completely sleighted. Standard edition doesn’t even have a character slot? In an expansion with a new class? Really? That is just insulting.
Effective with a hammer, if you think GS will be anything but an item slot I don’t know what traits you’re looking at.
edit: I do hope you’re right though.
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Dergen Hernter was already useless to begin with. They don’t need to break traits to make people use it because nobody outside of WvW was ever going to use it anyway. All this is doing is pushing me to play my warrior more.
I feel like the person who set up the new traits has never played Guardian before. I seriously feel like the people in charge of balancing the game don’t play the game and it makes me sad as hell.
What is the percent of duration increase on symbol length? GS only has a 4 second duration on a 20 second cooldown. So it will hardly be useful over hammer for symbol purposes which has a pretty much 100% symbol upkeep.
I play greatsword in PvE and PvP and it works really well for GS. Just use the Medi variant. The only reason hammer is meta over GS is because Tage uses it.
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Guardian_-_Meditation_DPS_Variant
Try that.
That is a PvP build? I’m talking about PvE. Also as far as I am concerned GS was always superior in PvP over the useless hammer build. We’re talking specifically about the new trait system coming out next week. The new traits are breaking this class.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/June-23-Specialization-Changes/first Here you go, enjoy the joy that is Guardian getting destroyed. It doesn’t even resemble the class it has been for the past 3 years.
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Empowering Might is kind of useless if you have an Ele or PS warrior anyway. Guardian can’t build up might that quickly.
I mean hammer is cool if you enjoy playing in slow motion. But if you like playing in slow motion you might prefer a traditional MMO.
Can’t make a build that makes taking a greatsword useful. I keep running into a Hammer build. Taking greatsword traits seems like you’re just throwing away trait points. Hammer is the worst weapon ever made so basically it is time to switch main classes after almost 3 years because anet has no respect for the playerbase.
Nope, like everybody else has said. Why should aegis have a huge tell but I can’t tell when other classes have their boons without looking at their bar? Its total nonsense.
I’ve been using rifle for 3 years on engi
greatsword sword focus on Guardian
Greatsword axe mace on warrior
dagger dagger dagger warhorn on necro
dagger focus on eleAll of these I’ve used for 3 frigging years. It’s mind blowing people don’t want change. So weird. I’m dying for the meta to shake up
Meta is switching to hammer, which is pretty much the worst weapon ever. If I wanted to play in slow motion I’d play a traditional MMO.
If any single item worth more than 1g drops for me then I’ll post here. Please don’t hold your breath as I’m well into account wide diminishing returns due to being here since head start.
ANet doesn’t want longevity, they need new sales.
You mean you are convinced that ANET is out to get you and nerfing your drops? Maybe you need to craft a tinfoil hat in real life so ANET can stop reading your thoughts as well.
There is no such thing as account wide diminishing returns.
What? Yes there is… Everybody who has played from the start knows this because anet said so.
Or they can remove it because it is not useful and it is ugly. I’ve hated it since launch, and I will continue to hate it. All the people in this thread saying not to remove it are trolls.
Nope, I’m not seeing anything exciting. They dissolved their dungeon team so we probably won’t see any of those. They might have raids but might not, no information. So basically no fun PvE content. They are ruining my favorite class Guardian. Greatsword Sword/Focus is about to become useless compared to Hammer which sucks because Hammer is a kittenty slow motion weapon. I’m just hoping for something exciting. Something new and good.
It is a gold sink put in place to punish people who want to sell stuff only to be undercut by richer people who don’t mind taking their items down and relisting every time somebody else tries to make a little money. Basically, the gold disappears from the game.
Why? Anet has never been about giving you back gold for stuff you spent it on after changes. You spent it, you used the stuff you bought. You think people who spent all the time farming the traits are going to expect to get their time back too?
As far as the other stuff, You need 65 skill challenges + lvl 80 I think they said to unlock everything. So at least it won’t be too bad.
I doubt Braham will be anti-Sylvari. The norn have a very anti-racist/anti-prejudice culture. They let people be them as long as they’re not violent. The Sons of Svanir have killed tons of Norn but the Norn still let the peaceful Sons of Svanir live in Hoelbrak.
Minion builds were never viable. The AI is dumb as a bag of bricks.