Guild Wars 2

Sorin.4310:

Holy necromancy, batman.

Lol, exactly what I was about to post. Saw strifey and JP talking and thought “Man! This should be good!” Then saw 7 months ago!

Argh, this is why nobody likes necromancers!

Thief in PvE has the lowest room for error. That’s my vote for PvE

Main: Mesmer
80 alts: Ele, thief, ranger

Cymric.7368:

I am surprised that so many people recommend melee. Is melee recommended because of the cleave or the dps? I am using p/v/t armor with berserker trinkets and I always feel too squishy to melee for long. With so many charrs running around wouldn’t it be much harder to kite them with melee?

It’s both. Sword auto attack is highest auto attack for mesmer. Beats GS by 2-3 times and staff is mainly defensive/condition.

Now a days I mainly fotm and wvw with my mesmer, but do some CoF runs. I’ve become comfortable enough to go full berserker in PvE and switch to Rabid for WvW.

When using sword, try to stand behind any bosses. You’ll automatically reduce a lot of damage taken by not being in cleave, then you’ll just have to watch out for big aoes that usually have a huge tell. If you start to take aggro, which rarely happens, switch to a range weapon and use some invis/mov skills like decoy or blink.

Remember, it’s okay to get downed sometimes. Doing say 300K damage to a boss over it’s life and getting downed once is better than doing 80K damage and staying alive.

Join a guild.

If your guild doesn’t do it regularly add/PM me in game. We have a regular group of 6-7 in guild, but sometimes we need a 5th.

Lifewaster.5912:

Ethics.4519:

Make a thief and play a couple of hot join matches in spvp. You’ll quickly realize you’re not as invincible as you think you are.

Ppl often refer to sPVP thieves whenever WVW thieves are discussed, as if sPvP balance somehow justifies their power in WvW.

WvW thieves do not conform to sPvP balance rules, they have higher burst, and 25% shorter revealed. And several thief abilities have been “balanced” to hit harder in wvw then they do in sPvP.

Until this changes, we will keep seeing these complaints about wvw thieves.
I suspect revealed could be doubled to 6 sec in WvW, and thieves would still be a problem for most players there.

I am sorry I did not clarify this more. I did not mean to say that since you get killed in sPvP as a thief you will in WvW. I know these are completely different.

The point I was trying to make was that he should make a thief and learn how it works. The fastest way would be to just make a new one and go into sPvP. He can see that stealth from a thief perspective is different than stealth from a non-thief perspective.

For personal best class I would just say play whatever makes you happy.

From a meta standpoint I would put them in tiers.

Tier 1: Mesmer, guardian, ele

• The more guardians and eles the better. Tons of boons, hard to kill, good aoe, good mov skills, etc. With mesmers, the usefulness starts to taper off. In a zerg, I would say you only need 2 or 3 coordinated mesmers to reach max usefulness

Tier 2: Warriors, thieves

• Warriors bring some good boons and CC. Leg specialist can be utilized pretty well. Thieves have their specific places where they can be of great help. They are also #1 in stacking might with sbow, followed closely by hammer guardian

Tier 3: Rangers, engineers, necros

• These are still useful, just less so. For instance, a mesmer and necro team can work together to stack a crap load of confusion, then use epidemic to spread it. Rangers could work with ele or thieves to use traps/entagle to stick people in dagger storm or meteor shower.

Honestly just know what your role/usefulness is and do it well. Also, coming from a mesmer, we have a hella tough time getting badges/bags. Our Aoe is crappy at best, and most leaders will ask you to have portal and veil as utilities. Since blink never leaves my toolbar, that means I have no room for null field/feedback.

Luvpie.8350:

Necro.6432:

Had fun fighting tonight , in all the Borderlands CD-SBI-SOS bl’s , good loots , good fights indeed.

Jyeoi.6027:

What I want to know is why SOS fails to wipe CD and why CD fails to wipe SOS? Are you both afraid of each other? Too much of a challenge?

Yep , thats why we avoided SoS bl on the very first min of our attack, we didn’t take both garrison and bay and bunch of other tower, it was all illusions. (btw good defending at hills sos)

a second point , SBI can surprise you with their siege placement.

NJ on the Bay push today on SoS borderland. Endless relentless sea of CD players.

Completely agree. I remember pushing off 30/40 or so CD from hills after garrison wakitten, an seeing in map chat they were attacking bay. And I thought “Crap, 30/40 was their diversion force???”

Applause for sending bodies to hills and golems to bay

WXP actions should be scaled based on how many friendlies are around you. 4 people (so 5 person team) is 100%. All the way up to nobody around you say 200% (only live players count, not NPCs).

Then in a zerg it could max out at say 49 other people around you with 20%.

This would help bust up zergs a little but not be so detrimental that zergs cease to exist.

Edit: Omg slamz. You posted that while I was typing my extremely similar idea.

Aoe, immobilize, channeled skills, movement skills, invuln skills, confusions, protection, retaliation. You might not kill him but you’ll survive, which is winning.

Make a thief and play a couple of hot join matches in spvp. You’ll quickly realize you’re not as invincible as you think you are.

Anet messed that whole thing up. I really think they added fractals to try to pull everybody out of cursed shore. Which worked, everybody moved to LA, then they realized they didn’t really want to continue with fotm lol.

I understand that they didn’t want a certain gear to only come from one aspect of the game, but when that jewelry is required to progress further in a certain aspect, that aspect should at least have a way to obtain it.

“Hey, wanna do fractals? Better go WvW!”

Maximillian Greil.1965:

ok… ready for this? take a stunbreaker.. they break stuns. Let them stack whatever they stack on you and use your SB, or… use your SB and do a barrel roll. Just about every class has a stun breaker. “I’m using utilities that give damage” is not an excuse.

Okay…. are you ready for this? Read his post.

That does suck though OP. I’ve definitely been there and it’s only really punishing if you’re carrying your group/PUG.

His agony attack also causes burning (the red bubble around you) and causes burning on anybody around the person with the bubble.

They are either in CoF p1 or way above your fotm level. Just because you don’t see them doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

You also tend to see a lot more guardians in fotm for the reflects. I think the best team make up would be 1 mes, 2 guards, 2 wars or 1 mes, 2 guards, 1 war, 1 thief.

Like somebody else said earlier, at higher levels the best strategy is to kill as fast as possible. The longer the fight goes on, the better chance you’ll make a mistake and wipe.

I use GS/ sword+focus. The GS is good for the push back and the zerker cripple. Other than that I just have the sword out the whole time. You could potentially just go sword+focus/sword+sword.

The engineer could be only familiar with glamour/confusion builds on a mesmer, which null field and feedback are two utilities that they would bring, causing confusion and blindness.

I think decoy, mirror images, and blink are find for that part. You just have to save bursts for the assassins, which is easy. The hard part is having enough AOE to take care of the rest of the mobs. I’ve noticed that people tend to focus on the assassins that part, but if you leave the trash up for too long they start to accumulate and wipe the group.

wish.1027:

I Deschain I.4623:

It’s funny ‘cause you didn’t mention rangers since… well they are rangers.

Youre right, its unfair rangers get a pet, whats with that horse poopymagog!?!
We need to take the rangers pet away too, no class should have anything that makes them different from the others, because thats just stupid and 1 class will end up being good at something and another wont be as good at the same thing, and my mommy said Im special and I can do whatever I want.

That sounds like a huge game-breaking buff you’re talking about.

Get rid of stealth-reveal traps and give them to the rangers. Get rid of the supply removal traps and give them to engineers.

Glad to see all the fresh blood coming in. I’m loving the fights, but it should be a welcomed change. I don’t care what the points are, NA time = fun time for me.

Man, some people can complain about anything.

Although I’m not completely happy about the update, it mostly sounds good. Can’t wait to see how it turns out!

8 months ago? You don’t seem to know what you’re talking about.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Nuka Cola.8520:

pro tip don’t play with guild groups unless its yours. Looks at guild tags and if you see 3+ ppl from same guild find another group

Anyone who does this also misses out on awesome guild groups looking for +1 that clear L48 in as quick a time as possible with zero wipes. I know my guild does this, and we certainly don’t kick at the end.

pro tip, don’t be a jerk or suck. Talk, communicate, be nice and they won’t kick you.

I have kicked two people on the last fractals

1) In short, this person was incredibly rude and lied about AR. We were doing 20+ and he was instantly dying on agony attack. We noticed on 3rd round but was blatantly obvious in Maw. In addition, when I asked for clarification on something he was saying (he was wrong) he called me an idiot and told me to get an education. My 4 guild group kicked him, but I took SS of him saying he had 0 AR (even though he said 15 at the beginning)

2) 3 person guild group, plus 2 PUGs. One person had a disagreement with guildie in the 3rd round. They argued for a bit but nothing serious. It escalated into the PUG calling all of us stupid kitten and verbally abusing us. I reported and kicked him, then ask the other PUG if he would like to invite a guildie to make it look like it wasn’t a kick so we could bring somebody else in.

TL;DR, some people deserve to be kicked and some people don’t. Take what people say w/ a grain a salt.

Rumors, nothing but rumors

Iures.2894:

VanityValentine.6203:

Nah, I mean a mixed group of warriors/mes/thieves does the run faster. But most to all warriors here bubt that. AND UNLIKE them, I dont need a video to believes that 2thieves/2warrior/1mesmer is faster than 1mes/4warriors…Its just common sense.
Espada’s Video sure is way faster(with mixed group).

I think I may’ve just misinterpreted your last post, then, sorry. :p

Espada’s Video definitely is slower. And now they are saying stuff like “well the warrior was late” or “I didn’t blink” or “The thief used his elite” So what! All that kitten lead to a slower run! Which is the point.

“I believe what I believe and all evidence that points else where is blasphemy!”

Phira.3970:

Lots of silly complaining

Hahaha, this is so…so sad. You’re just making excuses man. All the things you listed just lead to a longer run, which is why your video was longer.

Just make a shorter video and then you won’t need so many lame excuses.

I agree partially. I’d consider myself to be about the same as you, except I probably play a bit more on the weekend when I have nothing to do.

You mention nerfs as a challenege, but I don’t totally see them that way. I invested time and money into building my toon into a glamour mesmer. If I would have bought those giver weapons like i was about to, I’d be even more upset. But that’s not really the point. The point is the confusion 50% nerf is unfounded. Confusion was OP because people are bad. They didn’t realize they were killing themselves so they just kept killing themselves. It was one of the greatest tools for shutting down zergs, and that’s partially removed. One of the biggest gripes is that WvW is a zerg-fest, and they seem to be encouraging it.

If they nerf a little skill or something to a class, that’s fine, but when you nerf a game-wide mechanic with a blind bat, that’s not fine. It was a lazy fix. The base damage of confusion should have been reduced, but scale properly with condition damage and duration, instead of a flat 50% nerf.

Edit: Oh, plus they buff thieves and Warriors (not needing a buff at all) while taking away builds from mesmers and engineers. I’m a mesmer and upset by what the patch will most likely bring, I can’t imagine if I were an engineer (in the game, I am irl)

Sacrai.6280:

1) If you succeed, it means the player’s good. Insufficient AR shouldn’t be a reason to be kicked if you are skilled enough. Yet I might admit that he lied, it might be the best example you have given. I would simply have asked for an explanation.

So you’re saying a level 1 fotm should be able to do a level 48 fotm?

1) The person would instantly die due to one hit of agony. Even if the person were able to dodge every single agony attack, there are two mandatory agony attacks at Maw that would require the team to res him or leave him.

2) The person would be staying range and probably doing barely any damage trying to avoid all the agony attacks.

haviz.1340:

But today they might not be valid at all as far as we know.

As of today Strife’s video is faster, until Phira posts another video. You can’t really comment on the future as we don’t know what the patch will bring, so just analyze the best method as of today.

Have you followed a guide? I followed along with Signs of Kelani on youtube to do mine.

If you did it on multiple characters try logging on and going through SAB with each one.

Deleted in order to not start a flaming war. Have fun with your CoF thief runs

By the way, your assumption is wrong. I’m a mesmer

I stand on the left rock (if you’re facing him) and target a toad in the background, on the highest point (to the right). If you do the angle right, you’ll still hit the toad.

You have to mash 1 since you can’t auto attack, but you never lose the target, so that’s good.

Solid Gold.9310:

Ethics.4519:

Solid Gold.9310:

Axesome.1025:

Hicci.8761:

Axesome.1025:

Hi,

I think it’s nearly impossible to get rich in GW2. I do a lot of events, guild missions, yet i am so poor. Can you make some solid cash without farming 24/7?

Yup. If you are as casual as you claim to be, you can just do daily bosses, maybe some cof and other additional stuff. You can easily get 10g/day.
If you can’t even do that then you don’t deserve all that fancy stuff you want. There are no magical ways to get rich in a blink of an eye. (unless you get incredibly lucky)

I still don’t understand how can casual player get 10g/day.

10 did I read that right, 10 gold a DAY for a casual player, if only that were true I would be mega rich by now.

1 gold a day is much more realistic.

10 gold/day isn’t that bad, and you don’t even have to play the market.

MF gear farming in Orr, you could get 5+ gold/hr selling everything you get. Some people get 10gold/hr doing speed runs of CoF.

“casual” doesn’t mean sitting in LA running around in quaggan tonics yelling “Catch me if you can!”…. which, I do occasionally

Well I must be doing something seriousely wrong then, I spend most of my time in orr, maybe 4-5 hours a night, and I don’t see anything like 10g a day

PM me in game if you want help.

It’s a shame she didn’t know about the buy back function. But yeah, I’ve almost sold my GS skin a couple of times because it looks like the pearl greatsword, good thing it still comes up exotic though.

Also, invisible bags help a lot with this, if you’re prone to this issue.

GoDaddy.5671:

Azael.5792:

Just going to throw this out there and hope maybe a dev will like it:

Why not let people trade 2 or 3 (or X) fractal weapons they’ve already gotten for a single fractal weapon of their choice?

It doesn’t really sound like anyone is complaining that “a” skin is difficult to get. Its the fact that the chance of getting “the” skin you want is so small, and that chance never increases no matter how many times you do the fractal. Run a bunch and slowly collect random skins you don’t really want, and trade a handful for the one you do. Won’t conflict with tokens. Will still reward doing higher level fractals more than lower ones. But most importantly, it still gives a reasonable goal that you can make progress towards, rather than the whole skinner box “maybe this next run will be the lucky one in a million”

EDIT: And for a simple way to implement this, just make all fractal weapons salvage 100% guaranteed into some account bound token (lump of fractal ore?), with a new trader that takes X of these in exchange for a new weapon of choice.

+ 1000
Great idea, Azael! Anet please take note of this elegant and fair solution.

I was thinking you could throw 4 fractal skins in the MF and get pack a fractal ticket. Which you could take to the vendor and buy the skin you want. The recipe wouldn’t work with transmuted items.

Also, everything would be account bound.

rozcinana.7249:

3 – I don’t see any reason for kicking that player. They are optimizing their performance for every fractal. Sure, it’s a bit of a time sink but I sure as heck perform better when I take a few seconds to switch my weapons and utilities between encounters.

Repeatedly causing multiple 3-5 minute delays, even though the party is asking you to just do it and not switch, is not the same as asking for 10-15 sec for a skill to go off cooldown or switching weapons.

I wasn’t there, so I don’t know how it happened exactly, but I could see why this could possibly lead to a kick.

Watched the video, good job, it was fast. However, I would never want to party with you guys. Just watch chat, it’s ridiculous how they talk.

“I don’t see how any dies on that part” – Not all classes have the same utilities and escape functions as your slippery thief.

“You need to get to your brazier faster” – yet he doesn’t have any food and is sitting there asking people to send him things.

Solid Gold.9310:

Axesome.1025:

Hicci.8761:

Axesome.1025:

Hi,

I think it’s nearly impossible to get rich in GW2. I do a lot of events, guild missions, yet i am so poor. Can you make some solid cash without farming 24/7?

Yup. If you are as casual as you claim to be, you can just do daily bosses, maybe some cof and other additional stuff. You can easily get 10g/day.
If you can’t even do that then you don’t deserve all that fancy stuff you want. There are no magical ways to get rich in a blink of an eye. (unless you get incredibly lucky)

I still don’t understand how can casual player get 10g/day.

10 did I read that right, 10 gold a DAY for a casual player, if only that were true I would be mega rich by now.

1 gold a day is much more realistic.

10 gold/day isn’t that bad, and you don’t even have to play the market.

MF gear farming in Orr, you could get 5+ gold/hr selling everything you get. Some people get 10gold/hr doing speed runs of CoF.

“casual” doesn’t mean sitting in LA running around in quaggan tonics yelling “Catch me if you can!”…. which, I do occasionally

I assume by “aura” you mean Arah. Arah is one of the harder dungeons and will take longer to farm. Each dungeon has 3 different “sets” of stats. CoF is most commenly done because it’s super fast and has berserker gear (power, prec, crit damage).

If you’re going for looks, this is my favorite website to browese http://argos-soft.net/GW2ArmorGallery/

You can also mix-match and transmute. So if you want berserker stats but HotW look? You can get all CoF gear then transmute it with crystals to HotW (Note: You will need to farm both sets and ‘destory’ one set, also needing transmutation crystals)

Nothing really to say here, except I ran CoF with Eternal Blizzard, in your guild, the other day and he threw flowers at me. This might get taken down for posting other toons names btw

-Greggerz

Same as you do with karma…. or any other vendor throughout Tyria.

haviz.1340:

Why would you kick anyone for swapping characters, especially if it’s done for team benefit?

Depends on how long it took? If they insisted on changing and took 5-6 min to get back to position, while the team said no, lets just go…. well yeah, kick them.

I don’t really like kicking people either. However, we had somebody who said he had enough AR, but we started realizing he was staying back to not get hit, and immediately died on Maw. Not to mention he was incredibly rude and was verbally assaulting us when we were just asking him questions. It was obvious that he was joining higher level groups so they would carry him, and not contributing anything.

Anet refuses to nerf warriors, only continually buff them. People know they are safe when playing warrior =)

Everything seems legit, and long over due. I used to play D/D ele, and the escape is definitely OP.

Hahahaha, nice video, reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htHRErZM7QM Any other ex-rangers remember this promised update?

I’m glad warrior and thieves both got a buff, this should definitely help break up the zerg mentality, just like massive blanket confusion nerfs.

I’m honestly holding out till patch day. I know it’s going to hurt, but I’m hoping it will still be effective.

My main gripe is, like what has already been stated, that this just encourages zerg vs zerg more. It’s not like adding 5 extra supply for 300 WXP points did anything…

Those 3 are probably the worst classes for PvE. WvW, almost everything has a role. Necro I would suggest being the best for WvW as it’s easy to apply conditions, aoe, and survive.

A dev stated they never intended for pre-scouting to be a strategy. I believe he even went on to say they are changing some mechanics to make it so you can’t pre-scout.

I also don’t really get what you’re saying with the post. You say Anet intended it to be a coordinated effort but ask why randoms can join. Well, you can still coordinate with randoms or non-guildies. We actually coordinated with 2 other guilds for tier 3 bounty (unfortunately after 1 hour of all 3 guilds looking for sottz, we couldn’t find and just started. We were the only guild that got sottz on the list =().

If you’re saying it’s too easy, all the strategies you listed require coordination. Also, you can’t clear traps and certain mobs for some rushes, so it actually requires you to coordinate who’s doing the puzzle and who’s protecting where.

One issue you may be facing is similar what I had on my laptop. For somereason, when I would hold W and a or d to side strafe, it would make my mosue in effective. I remember it being incredibly hard to use, and very annoying. I ended up going into my settings and changing the mouse settings.

Another tip, is if you have side buttons on your mouse, I would recommend changing dodge to your mouse 3 or mouse 4 click.

Phira.3970:

Video of your claim please that GS Warriors are faster. And I’m not talking about a video before quickness was nerfed from 100% to 50% attack speed.

“faster” than what? Your video is edited. If you really want something tested, you need to state your testable claim.

What is your claim? A thief is better than warrior? Can’t be tested.

Is it that one thief can replace a warrior and have a faster run? That can be tested.

Is it two thieves? three thieves?

All you did was post an edited video of a CoF speed run. The only claim I see is “LFG should stop asking for GS warriors” which is stupid because a GS warrior is still useful.

Rezz.8019:

Guns and Giblets.9308:

So how many Faithfuls are you trying to off-load?

Actually, I’m just spreading the information that might be useful for some people. Why would the regular flippers be the only people who know. Fair play.

Because as soon as it makes the forum, blog, youtube channel, etc. the profit vanishes.

Depends how the interrupt would be done. It could lead to an imbalance of classes that have more interrupts, which might not necessarily be a bad thing.

All I run with is Omnom bars, sometimes. 3 shards, 3 globs, 5 or 6 vials, personal reward is around 28.

Why are you in such a rush to get vials? Just keep going up till you can get shards, that way you can put them in the MF to get 3 globs, then vials. 1shard=3globs=9vials (only if going down. If transforming up then 1shard=5globs=25vials)