Guild Wars 2

I fought a couple that used shouts, moa stance and the plant thing that were very strong. They kept health up well cleared Condi well, had lots of cc, and maintained 25 might Then I fought others that clearly did t know how to build with it and were farmed.

To me penalties are too light. You should be forced to work the time off in active unranked play. If you have 20 mins of dishonor that = 20 mins of unranked game time you need to complete before you can queue ranked again.

Mine haven’t gone well either.

• one match we had a theif that stopped playing after he was downed the first time going from home to far. This was after I was able to rez him, kill the thief that downed him, and decap the far node and take down the guard that came over to help. He/she just stood there watching the whole time. Our team was in great shape up to that point, and should have been a fairly easy win.
• Had a solo capping offensive ele in two other placements that kept getting farmed once the team realized it wasn’t running the meta build. It wouldn’t even go to the team fights where it could get support.

Punishments should really reflect how much they inconvenience the person on their team. Quitting in a ranked match is costing 4 people not only the match you are in, but more than one additional match to make up lost ground. Assuming everyone has a 60% win ratio AND the get as many points for a win as a loss:

Dishonor should really start at that time. 4 players * (1+5/3) * 12min = 128 minutes.

So it should be a 128 minute ban. That 128 minutes should only be able to be worked off in active PvP matches in unranked. You shouldn’t just be able to go to bed, play WvW, or raid and have your dishonor cleared. You should have to actually play that many minuets of unranked matches without penalty before you can be trusted to try ranked again.

I would keep the same exponential scaling. So if you end up throwing 3 or 4 matches a season you are effectively banned for the season.

Scourge would be very strong to broken in wvw where you can have a backline and stack barriers. In sPvP it seems like a staff ele. Absolutely reks people that stand in red circles, but is a free kill for people that fight smart.

I agree the server concept is a failure. It is too slow to react to changes in population. This creates imbalanced servers for a long period of time. This causes people that are on the short end of the stick to find another game/game mode. Making it guild/alliance based would be an improvement.

Fivona.5061:

Queue times messed.
Everywhere crawling with testers and people with no WvW experience. (PvE people)

Never seen any other game doing testing in LIVE SERVERS.

Why only PvP and WvW ? Why not PvE ?

Why not EoTM only ?

This isn’t professional Anet.

Could always use that as an opportunity to recruit people.

Brujeria.7536:

• Oppressive Collapse: Doesn’t grant might 90% of the time

• Dessicate: Doens’t scale with enemies hit, it ALWAYS give 10% lifeforce and 5 stacks of might, even when not hitting anything.

Add if you find more.

Dhuumfire and Unyielding blast proc with all the shroud skills. Very strong on skill 5 that pulses 7 times. not to mention the other 4 can instant cast. Reks the lord and company on legacy.

Faux Play.6104:

The other two options work on mouse up. e.g. the skill is cast where you released the button for the skill. The “instant” option now puts the skill where you mouse is after the completion of the skill animation.

This severely handicaps your movement and skill usage if you use this option. The difference used to be it worked on key down for the skill so it was a little faster than the fast option which worked on key up.

To clarify, it looks like skill retargeting is causing this. It doesn’t do this to the other two ground targeting options.

Anyone who hates skill spamming and conditions will hate scourge.

Nothing.8564:

It sounds like you have the interface option “Allow Skill Retargeting” on. This allows the 3/4 second cast time of marks to be placed at the end of the 3/4 second cast instead of at the start.

You are right that is causing it. However, skill retargeting is for “targeting enemies”. It does it whether I have an enemy targeted or no enemy. These are ground target skills. Also, the other two slower ground target options don’t do this with skill retargeting turned on.

Lahmia.2193:

Faux Play.6104:

I’m putting this in the bugs. it is supposed to be faster than the “fast” option which is ground cast is where the mouse is when you release the key.

Well it’s not a bug. So don’t bother.

It is clearly a bug. It is titled instant, and it is the slowest of the 3 ground targeting options available.

The other two options work on mouse up. e.g. the skill is cast where you released the button for the skill. The “instant” option now puts the skill where you mouse is after the completion of the skill animation.

This severely handicaps your movement and skill usage if you use this option. The difference used to be it worked on key down for the skill so it was a little faster than the fast option which worked on key up.

I’m putting this in the bugs. it is supposed to be faster than the “fast” option which is ground cast is where the mouse is when you release the key.

yeah pretty much makes it unusable in fast game play.

This seems to be messed up. It ends up being where you mouse is at the end of the cast vs where it is a the start. Anyone else bugged by this?

Those missions seem like they need updating. I don’t do guild missions, but to me they should incentivise getting people to play the game mode as a group1st. Then have some rewards based on winning for the more competitive PvP guilds.

• Getting x kills in an hour. Could be done in the training area
• queue x number of matches in a day as 2+ team in ranked or unranked.
• participate as a team of 3+ in daily/monthly AT — bonus for wins
• complete ranked season with enough matches played for placement — bonus for placing higher

For the longer duration missions, players would commit to a guild for the duration regardless of their actual rep status during the period.

You forgot to add that you need to be able to dominate at every role with your class and weapon set of choice. Otherwise there is no build diversity.

Kuya.6495:

With two elite specs that drastically change the way a profession plays, now, more than ever, does having custom build templates become a serious necessity.

Can we at least get a non-official ETA?

Playing marauder dh serves a vastly different role than sage firebrand and if another guard on the team has the same elite that i do, even 1 minute won’t be enough to change everything on time.

If you buy a character slot with the expansion you can have two builds for the same class ready to go…. Wonder why we don’t have savable builds?

Arcadio.6875:

Anet really needs to look at the time gating for the pvp legendary armor. Since seasons are the only way to get tickets and ascended shards, you have to hardcore grind when there is an active season, but if there isn’t one then you can’t make any progress at all. We’re now waiting for the ability to grind lol. That’s just silly.

Raids have a weekly cap on insights. WvW has a weekly cap on their tickets. We need something similar so we can work on our armor between seasons.

It not a “hardcore grind” to unlock the top tier of the PvP reward track. You don’t get any more tickets or shards for repeating it.

A better fix would be to make the tourney like the world cup. You start in group play, then if you get in the top 2 of your group you make the bracket.

The other thing I would do is break it up into 3 divisions. That way everyone is guaranteed more than one match and they should be somewhat competitive.

BTW new teams can always play unranked or scrimmage in hot join. Mixing 5 man with randoms is just going to boost peoples rantings that shouldn’t be boosted.

I hear if you play venrauri rev it is auto win. Try that :-)

Maybe it is because they fixed people getting stuck in walls?

Soothsayer.9206:

Azukas.1426:

Seyiwaji.4082:

Not enough!
they should get their accounts completely banned.
This punishment is a Joke for what they did.

.Real money transactions
.Account Share
.Cheat

and only pvp ban, what a joke.

They didn’t cheat but won the tournament fair and square.

The only they are guilty of is account sharing.

You really can’t go with real world money transactions in light of they were paid by a net to play in proleague and make money off of twitch streams.

The competitive integrity of the tournament wasn’t compromised since the results of the tournament were never in question. What’s actually done is people put a price tag on thed rewards.

I was trying not to comment, but this nonsense of defending them needs to stop. Anet, ToS/UA, and the vast majority of the community disagree (Anet and ToS is all that matters in the end, and Anet owes no further explanation in light of whatever evidence they have). They shouldn’t be masquerading around at all. Who knows what other shorts of nefarious things they are doing to ruin the sPvP game and community. Getting off light in most people’s estimation.

As far as the integrity of the game, I have serious doubts that any of their defenders understand concepts like integrity, fairness, and sportsmanship. If they did, they wouldn’t be attempting to defend something that is universally understood as cheating.

For example, now that the end of summer is upon us; football is right around the corner. I suppose I should go out and hire the local professional, or semi-professional, college or high-school football team to compete for my son’s 8th grade middle school team so as to insure they win their district? Yeah, no outcry would ensue from other parents and schools. It’s all good and fair as long as we win, right? What’s the difference? Both are games, but one is on a field and the other on a screen. Otherwise, people are invested equally expecting the same competitive fairness and integrity as stated in the rules of the game. I enjoy GW2, it’s my out after a long day. I like to compete, always have, but the last thing I want are match manipulators taking away any chance at real competition by any sort of cheating!

You are comparing apples to rocket ships.

• This was an open tournament meaning anyone could enter.
• They did not cheat. They won the matches fair and square.
• people make money off of streams, fan sites, and third party tournaments.

what they did was account share. therefore, while they did win, they forfeit the prize.

In my last 10 games:

• 3 were very close 475pts or more by the losing team.
• 3 were blow outs less than 200 by the losing team.
• 1 was close loosing team >400 pts.
• the final 3 the losing team scored between 264 and 359

What they should try to avoid is large skill gaps on teams. Yesterday round 5 pacific time I had two pretty large skill gaps. One I lost (-6 pts) and one I won (+20). Normally wins and losses are around 12-14 for me.

Any plans to record and post it. Not the greatest time for me, but would definitely watch it.

RIP NA PVP. We just can’t have nice things.

They should add achievement points to it as well.

nothelseth.4621:

Banning the only halfway decent players because you get bullied into doing it by opportunistic people faking outrage in order to further kill off their scene because all they care about is their own ego.

What are you basing these bans on? TOS being broken? In that case I advice you ban half of NA, including the people that probably endlessly whined to you about doing this.

IMO it’s none of anyones business other than anet of what people does w their ingame tourn winnings. The only way I could find a ban justified from your end is if someone actually changed the outcome of a match by cheating. Nothing like that happened.

But yeah, I’m sure jeff convincing you of banning the team that always beats him is all done in the ‘’fairness of competition’’ and not you getting bullied by whispers and not having the nuts to take a stance.

Too bad you can only +1 this.

MasterD.4790:

Faux Play.6104:

MasterD.4790:

Faux Play.6104:

MasterD.4790:

Faux Play.6104:

MasterD.4790:

Saiyan.1704:

Just make a signature that says, “There’s no proof” and just silently quote people who reply to you.

Such a redundant thread..

No man…a 5 man pvp team that plays all the time….got randomly beat by some PvE ppl with no achieves or titles…like that happens all the time. One time….53 walk-on’s defeated the Patriots…. lol

Or it could be alt/new accounts purchased for the AT. there hasn’t been any proof posted that the accounts were owned by PVE n00bs.

Sure could be, could also be 5 unicorns signed up for free accounts and played all core builds and spit rainbows while dodging…who knows no proof lol. Ok, fair enough, lets play the other side, what is the alternative that happened? Another top tier team decided to all get alt accounts and play in the AT to troll everyone? lol

Could have been euros. Based on the pro league results there are quite a few people that should be able to win an AT against an American draw that didn’t have their best players in it.

Ok, fair enough, could be an EU team playing on NA accounts. Even though they have their own AT’s, most of their top guys streamed their AT’s and they’d be playing with a ping that would be hard to fairly compete against top NA players. This makes more sense then an NA team trolling the NA AT?

The same ping issue would apply if you are playing through a VPN in the us. You would have to access a VPN through your network, then then from the VPN exit and go to the servers.

Until the accounts are proven to be active PVE players that can’t PVP it could be a lot of things. If any of the “banned” players had an inactive alt account or bought a new copy of the game, would they have been prevented from entering the AT? Does dishonor even keep you from entering the AT?

See this is where you are wrong, it can’t be a lot of things. What is the alternative? A bunch of pvp players just happened to get together and beat a top tier team? Let’s rule out PvE players. Did 5 random platinum+ pvp players all get together and beat at a top team? Is this what you are suggesting as the alternative? Otherwise, no other situation makes a ton of sense….did 5 top 250 players get together and beat them? Maybe, possibly, but without practice etc? It just seems unlikely.

I’m suggesting several things.
1) It could be people from the Euro server. They have a higher skill base than the American server. They could easily put together a team of 5 that could win the NA tournament that BTW didn’t have its best players participating. —as for the ping issue, playing through a VPN will also increase your ping, so if you are making the argument that people from the US ran through a VPN and won, it is just as logical that higher skilled players from Europe did the same thing.
2) Are the accounts that won really random PVE players? Haven’t seen any proof one way or another on that. It could have been an alt. account.
3) If it was an alt account that wasn’t previously involve with account sharing/boosting couldn’t the usual suspects participate in the tourney on that account?

There hasn’t been any “proof” of anything besides Jeff’s team lost.

I really don’t see why people are so upset about this. Whomever won beat them. People weren’t that concerned when vermillion had a legit chance of winning the Euro league and mysteriously had one of their key players lag out. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Vermillion-PoV-on-Week-3-s-Match-vs-TCG/first#post6092091

MasterD.4790:

Faux Play.6104:

MasterD.4790:

Faux Play.6104:

MasterD.4790:

Saiyan.1704:

Just make a signature that says, “There’s no proof” and just silently quote people who reply to you.

Such a redundant thread..

No man…a 5 man pvp team that plays all the time….got randomly beat by some PvE ppl with no achieves or titles…like that happens all the time. One time….53 walk-on’s defeated the Patriots…. lol

Or it could be alt/new accounts purchased for the AT. there hasn’t been any proof posted that the accounts were owned by PVE n00bs.

Sure could be, could also be 5 unicorns signed up for free accounts and played all core builds and spit rainbows while dodging…who knows no proof lol. Ok, fair enough, lets play the other side, what is the alternative that happened? Another top tier team decided to all get alt accounts and play in the AT to troll everyone? lol

Could have been euros. Based on the pro league results there are quite a few people that should be able to win an AT against an American draw that didn’t have their best players in it.

Ok, fair enough, could be an EU team playing on NA accounts. Even though they have their own AT’s, most of their top guys streamed their AT’s and they’d be playing with a ping that would be hard to fairly compete against top NA players. This makes more sense then an NA team trolling the NA AT?

The same ping issue would apply if you are playing through a VPN in the us. You would have to access a VPN through your network, then then from the VPN exit and go to the servers.

Until the accounts are proven to be active PVE players that can’t PVP it could be a lot of things. If any of the “banned” players had an inactive alt account or bought a new copy of the game, would they have been prevented from entering the AT? Does dishonor even keep you from entering the AT?

MasterD.4790:

Faux Play.6104:

MasterD.4790:

Saiyan.1704:

Just make a signature that says, “There’s no proof” and just silently quote people who reply to you.

Such a redundant thread..

No man…a 5 man pvp team that plays all the time….got randomly beat by some PvE ppl with no achieves or titles…like that happens all the time. One time….53 walk-on’s defeated the Patriots…. lol

Or it could be alt/new accounts purchased for the AT. there hasn’t been any proof posted that the accounts were owned by PVE n00bs.

Sure could be, could also be 5 unicorns signed up for free accounts and played all core builds and spit rainbows while dodging…who knows no proof lol. Ok, fair enough, lets play the other side, what is the alternative that happened? Another top tier team decided to all get alt accounts and play in the AT to troll everyone? lol

Could have been euros. Based on the pro league results there are quite a few people that should be able to win an AT against an American draw that didn’t have their best players in it.

Good question. It probably has the same answer as why can’t I customize the user interface. You could move the pieces anywhere you wanted them in gw1 too.

MasterD.4790:

Saiyan.1704:

Just make a signature that says, “There’s no proof” and just silently quote people who reply to you.

Such a redundant thread..

No man…a 5 man pvp team that plays all the time….got randomly beat by some PvE ppl with no achieves or titles…like that happens all the time. One time….53 walk-on’s defeated the Patriots…. lol

Or it could be alt/new accounts purchased for the AT. there hasn’t been any proof posted that the accounts were owned by PVE n00bs.

Watch the end of Sind’s stream of the tourney. You see them pulling the levers.

Saiyan.1704:

Shintei.9061:

Saiyan.1704:

Sly.9518:

Lulz oh no he asked for a VPN lulz you have other proof but won’t provide it I wonder why. And it’s funn you can easily make any discord name whatever you want it to be so again show some real proof. It’s not like it’s hard to change your nickname in Discord or anything /s

The reason you won’t post any real proof is probably due to you not having any lulz.

If all the players were on VPN’s, that leaves a reasonable doubt.

Anet has the proof if their investigation team has half a networking-brain on their shoulders. They may not catch the booster players playing on their account but they sure as hell can remove the rewards from the account owners.

To top it off the guild are bragging about it… this really isn’t rocket science.

How do you know if the ip addresses are from the VPN or not?

Depends on the VPN software but most will show the IP in a different location than the user normally login from. Some tether across the globe going from server to server, France, India, Dallas, etc. etc.

Why would 5 players suddenly login at different parts of the globe for a tournament? Even if they attempt the best local server possible for ping related performance, that’s still no where these account owners typically login from.

All a VPN does is creates a “virtual private network”. It will encrypt traffic and route it through a public network. So essentially player A can create a VPN. Player B can connect to player A’s VPN, and use player A’s internet gateway. This will make the traffic look like it is coming out of the house of player A. This would make it very difficult to figure out who or where player B is, but they would have to deal with the performance hit of the extra hops to get to a server.

Were the pvers well known? If not, how do you know it isn’t an alt account from a euro player, or the abjured folks? The only “proof” I saw was a video where they were accused of being from the abjured team.

Ithilwen.1529:

Faux Play.6104:

OriOri.8724:

Ben Phongluangtham.1065:

We’ve identified additional accounts of players who were involved in account sharing and match manipulation.

We’ve given them dishonor for the remaining season for now. Our investigation is still underway, so additional action may be taken later, should we determine it appropriate.

This is such an underwhelming decision from you guys. These guys didn’t just break the ToS of your game. They are also ruining NA PvP for everyone else. Its people like this that keep GW2 from having a real competitive scene, and everyone knows that Anet wishes that GW2 had one. So you need to take real actions against these accounts, and you need to change the system so that this can’t happen as easily in the future. NA PvP will always be nothing more than a joke if you don’t start taking real action against these players

Somewhat ironic that you argue for a competitive scene by wanting to ban the best players. The reality is anyone that plays a game enough to win the monthly is investing a huge amount of time into it. That same time investment in other games would allow someone to profit from it. If they would rather sell out and win for another player so what?

Your attitude can be summed up as “They’re nobles, they can do what they want.” I can’t say exactly what I think of that on this forum.

Let’s just say; “I profoundly disagree. Further, history will back my assertion that views similar to that one have resulted in extreme corruption and social breakdown.”

I believe the best players should win. There were no DCs. So they played an alt account, or maybe someone else’s, who cares. Why not provide a legitimate way for them to make money. Could allow guilds sponsor players like a sports club. Allegedly guilds are willing to pay for it. Give the guild access to the champion box as a reward.

Ziggityzog.7389:

Faux Play.6104:

OriOri.8724:

Ben Phongluangtham.1065:

We’ve identified additional accounts of players who were involved in account sharing and match manipulation.

We’ve given them dishonor for the remaining season for now. Our investigation is still underway, so additional action may be taken later, should we determine it appropriate.

This is such an underwhelming decision from you guys. These guys didn’t just break the ToS of your game. They are also ruining NA PvP for everyone else. Its people like this that keep GW2 from having a real competitive scene, and everyone knows that Anet wishes that GW2 had one. So you need to take real actions against these accounts, and you need to change the system so that this can’t happen as easily in the future. NA PvP will always be nothing more than a joke if you don’t start taking real action against these players

Somewhat ironic that you argue for a competitive scene by wanting to ban the best players. The reality is anyone that plays a game enough to win the monthly is investing a huge amount of time into it. That same time investment in other games would allow someone to profit from it. If they would rather sell out and win for another player so what?

“Best” lol just lol. I know peeps that could own them easy 1v1. The only reason some pug type players are good is because they have 4 other people to save them and they play over voice chat. Any random team in there had no chance even if they could take any of them 1v1 due to the map style your hurt without voice. Conq and dancing around / in circles requires quick voice chat over txt chat to make it easier to coordinate.

You take away voice chat and those lil puggies who “Won” are ez bait. That’ also why conq is non competitive unless both teams are miced.

You really think that the team that won was the only one in voice chat? People had a whole month to get ready for it and they couldn’t get together a discord channel? I could see getting upset of people were paid to lose or got denial of service attacked. However, the bottom line is they won. If the game mode was pure 1v1, I’m sure they would run a different build and still win.

OriOri.8724:

Ben Phongluangtham.1065:

We’ve identified additional accounts of players who were involved in account sharing and match manipulation.

We’ve given them dishonor for the remaining season for now. Our investigation is still underway, so additional action may be taken later, should we determine it appropriate.

This is such an underwhelming decision from you guys. These guys didn’t just break the ToS of your game. They are also ruining NA PvP for everyone else. Its people like this that keep GW2 from having a real competitive scene, and everyone knows that Anet wishes that GW2 had one. So you need to take real actions against these accounts, and you need to change the system so that this can’t happen as easily in the future. NA PvP will always be nothing more than a joke if you don’t start taking real action against these players

Somewhat ironic that you argue for a competitive scene by wanting to ban the best players. The reality is anyone that plays a game enough to win the monthly is investing a huge amount of time into it. That same time investment in other games would allow someone to profit from it. If they would rather sell out and win for another player so what?

People could just try to get good enough to beat them…nah that is silly talk.

Why not give the good players a way to make money at the game. No one watches streams and there is no pro league. I have no issue with people paying to get pvp achievements.

I’d suggest sticking to 1 or 2 professions. you played every profession once in the last 10 games and engineer twice. Your matches on engineer seemed to be the closest. i’d suggest running that for 10-20 games and see how it works out.

Dueling arenas are good for that too even if they have people in them. Typically you have to emote and the other acknowledges it before you start fighting.

NotASmurf.1725:

Cal Cohen.3527:

I double-checked this internally, and the disconnected player returning to the match has no impact on the rating loss. As long as they were disconnected for over 2 minutes their teammates (excluding party members) will get -0.

Actually, could you make some minor corrections to that rule? Currently it seems you guys assume that every time that happens the team would lose so obviously they shouldn’t lose rating, but in reality both rating loss AND gain seem to be disabled.

A couple of times we managed to win despite playing with 4 players (if the DC happened late for example) or if the 5th reconnected and we kept on tryharding. However, despite winning the game, we got 0 rating for it.

Once a DC occurs currently there is no reason to play the game because what we do in the match has no effect on the rating whatsoever, which sucks.

On the rare occasion I have won a 4v5 I got points. however, it was a lot less than I normally get since the were rated lower than me, which was likely why we were able to win a 4v5.

If you are a duo you will lose pts if you queued with the player that DCd. I have always gotten a 0 when someone DCd for an extended period of time.

Xibalbar.7459:

Crinn.7864:

Maybe you’d win more if you stopped running lich form, mainhand dagger, and signet of undeath.

And it doesnt matter what he is playing, it doesnt mean anyone can be afk because he only will play with “metabuilduser”.

They are asking for advice on how to avoid getting afks. It could very well be a result running a subpar build and not understanding how to use it. If you run a thief that constantly trys to tank team fights, run as a necro and constantly solo push far, or play any toon and “guard home” the entire match even though they aren’t pressuring it you will get more salty players on your team. Once the team starts to lose the odds are a lot higher you will have someone on your team give up.

WizardBro.4510:

Evan Lesh.3295:

I’ll just leave this here:
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/PvP_Matchmaking_Algorithm

Then why are platinum players getting qued with gold players? Please explain this if MMR is the reason the REAL reason how are people platinum 2 and up getting gold tier players? I myself even got a SILVER player on my team once when I was in the top 250. The MMR system is a joke still and needs to be worked on still. As to Anet having a naughty list I don’t doubt it. And what’re you going to do about the players being paid to throw games?? It’s half way through the season and players have yet to be banned. GJ anet…

Queue times
Player population

I think this would be good for the higher end players, and may be attractive to lower tier players that don’t like the random queue system.

• The gain/loss for MMR would be a much more rewarding because you would be playing teams that were at a similar rating
• More competitive matches that would be more interesting to viewers
• The top players would be consistently playing against each other

To make it work, I would recommend the following changes:

• Make the first round a round robin style like world cup groups.
• Separate out the upper tier players in their own bracket.
• Restrict the rating gap on a team. This would prevent teams from tanking an alt’s rating so their team an have an artificially lowered rating.
• Provide an announcement system in game when the semifinal/final matches are on.

Abraxxus.8971:

Isn’t the current MMR system and grind based system? You lose you get -18, but a win only gets you +7? How is that any different? Now you are grinding out 2-3 wins just to get back the rating you lost. Really what I’m suggesting is a simplified version that doesn’t have tiers, just a rank number.

The only way you see that is if you are a top tier player ~ top 250 or you are smurfing with someone that has a low rank. Shouldn’t the top 250 players have a win % over 50%?