Guild Wars 2

Katreyn.4218:

I like the dungeon. First boss is very good. Trash is good. Difficulty everything is pretty fine. Last boss is way too long though, less phases or something.

Overall, absolutely abysmal with clueless people that probably haven’t done any dungeons before and don’t listen to explanations. I’ve tried finding a group to finish with since my first time (and good group) had glitch and couldn’t finish first fight and it fell apart. Every group since doesn’t even make it through the first pack of trash without dying. Pretty much I don’t think scaled up people should attempt this, I think it may be very hard unless they are getting carried.

Maybe in the future make a dungeon for low levels and one for level 80s. So then we can maybe just split the difficulties for them. Scaling up is not a cure all.

That’s definitely an issue. People are expecting this to be like some of the past dungeons with scaling. It just doesn’t work like that. It sucks yes, but that’s just how it is. Would be awesome if they made one that was blow level 80, and then one that is level 80.

To be fair though there aren’t that many people leveling anymore. Seems most everyone around now has been for a bit, and the influx of new people seems to have ended a few months ago.

I’m still not sure why the laser wall goes through the boxes. Would be more interesting if you had to hide behind the boxes instead of on top of them. Then the golems could push people out but it would add to the kiting of it.

As another person suggested increase golem damage, get rid of the kitten pulls. So many ways they could make it a fun fight, sadly all they did was make it a question of do you have enough stability/damage.

Harbinger.8637:

Having guards with Stand Your Ground helps a lot. Overall the golems was the best part!

It shouldn’t be that way though. I love the Guardian profession. It was my first, I have 3 (yes THREE) guardians. 2 level 80, 1 level 42 and leveling. It is without a doubt my favorite profession. Yet I’ve talked to people tonight that are playing it, but absolutely hate it. Why? Because they give certain buffs that are in such high demand, and they feel like the professions they enjoy aren’t viable. That is completely the opposite of what GW2 was supposed to be.

The main problem with the golems is the fight is designed around certain professions being in the party. One reason I was so excited for gw2 was because of the premise that no one profession would be that much in demand. There were no tanks, healers, dps. This removes the idea of personal skill though and replaces it with “how much stability can you bring”. It’s great on my guardian, but other classes are just not very fun. After repeated deaths on other classes I did finally switch. That isn’t fun though, and the ability to bring a buff that negates part of the challenge isn’t very fun.

People really cant handle a little challenge anymore

PvP is about challenge, PvE is about gimmicky mechanics to try and give you the illusion of challenge while only really frustrating you.

Parlourbeatflex.5970:

Its funny how everyone screams WE NEED MORE CHALLENGE. Then when a semi hard dungeon comes along you immediately find forum threads about parties giving up after 8 wipes.

LULZ.

8 wipes is absolutely nothing. Our party wiped 3-4 times at the lazer bit coz people couldnt grasp the concept of standing on boxes… We then took about another 30ish mins to complete the dungeon with another few wipes at the last boss.. Ater which we all agreed that it was the best one to date (even giving MF a run for its money).

I cannot express enough how satisfying it was to not only lead the group, but too get through it even with the lack of skill from some players was immensely gratifying. First time in ages I have had to talk to a PUG and theorise tactics.

Challenge is good. Dont like it? Get back to CoFp1 where you belong.

PvP is challenge, not carebear land.

jcbroe.4329:

I wouldn’t say that people make baseless complaints, but I do feel they blow things out of proportion, or don’t understand the concept of balance around high skill competition.

The longbow and shortbow should have never operated so similarly, and the damage should have always had its highest focus coming from the player (I’m talking like 90% player, 10% pet).

I personally think that when one person who is popular in the community expressed his justified concerns, it turned into a bunch of lemmings crying about the apocalypse.

Anet did this awesome thing for GW1, they split the skills between pve/pvp. The only reason they don’t do that now is plain laziness. They know it, and we know it.

There is absolutely no reason to balance the skills the same. People in pvp don’t have the same abilities, or the same stats as mobs in pve. So balancing them to do more damage to someone with 17 to 20k health is going to suck when they fight something with 250k health.

phokus.8934:

I can certainly see it going to Mesmer’s and being tied to Scepter but the Thief change doesn’t make much sense. Depending on what type of number ticks we see with Torment, we may see a massive influx of Mesmers and Thieves.

(0.11 * Condition Damage + 32) per stack per second at level 80

Looks like that’s the formula from the wiki. So at 1500 condition damage it’s going to be doing like 197 per tic, unless you are moving. Then it’s double. It does stack in intensity though.

Most of the people that answered you here are pve players only. Staff is a must have in wvw. Don’t go into wvw without one as a guardian. It will help your team, save your butt, and screw up the enemy so many times.

1) You can hit people through gates, some walls with the staff. Yes, go try it. They lay down siege at the front gate. You can sit there out of range and do a huge amount of damage to them. (I use sup fire for the extra aoe). You will get plenty of bags by just standing there pressing 1.

2) 5 can actually push people off of things if used properly, it can stop people from going to rams etc.

3) Your aoe can htit hrough doors, and if traited also heals your allies while doing it.Speaking of you have an amazing might stack heal on staff. It’s biggest problem is using it where an enemy can interrupt, but if they are outside of the gate they can’t.

4) IF they get through that gate (means your team wasn’t defending properly) then you can block them off if they aren’t using stability. Two guardians can punish a team that didn’t bring aoe stability with them.

What I said above works offensively also. Use your staff on the enemy gate and kill the people behind it. Use your warding to block off the entrance to a keep and watch as the enemy rebounds on to their butt. Or use it to knock people off a wall etc.

Staff can do a good amount of damage, it just doesn’t get used much for some reason.

fadeaway.2807:

Wait, you guys are still trying to pvp with warriors?

Actually in wvw Warrior is an amazing class. In spvp I haven’t had much luck with it, mostly because it has obvious counters and those are pretty common.

In wvw though warriors are a must have for small groups/tower defense. Anyone who doesn’t run warbanner in wvw should just quit playing warrior though.

Most people complain about thieves, but I can easily counter them. All I’m seeing with the changes is more ways to easily win. Maybe it’s hugely different in tpvp, but in wvw we are getting so many buffs.

Axle.5182:

Guys im finding it hard to stop anyone but NPC’s with line of warding everyone seems to be able to dodge roll through it even without stability, iv tried doing it myself but it stops me in my tracks is this a bug ?

aoe stability. Pretty much if they have a guard/war in their group don’t bother. Guardians have aoe stability, everyone else just has it pretty much baked into skills anyway.

Inverted.7439:

Actually playing>doing the math. You could say LB is stronger then SB but in game, i’m sure your minds could be changed. I do appreciate all the work you’ve put into making this though.

You know how numbers are, they can change based on “how something feels”.

Setun.4368:

Even at 2000 units that’s enough distance for you to break combat (therefore regen all hp lost and being able to catch up to people) while your pet keeps someone in combat. It was fun having 5000 units but I don’t think this is going to make that great of a distance.

SBI that explains it entirely. You are a zerg aombie, you know nothing about what the OP is talking about.

Einlanzer.1627:

Piogre.2164:

Kerishan.8460:

You can just equip your longbow and enjoy your 1200 or 1500 range, so just stop kittenting.
Thieves just have nothing to do on 1200 range, and all skill with 1200 (like useless scorpion wire) have a stupid path with full obstacle or broken animation.

>implying Ranger Longbow is useful, even with the buffs

Ranger Longbow is getting very substantial buffs AND being defined as the only 1200 range weapon, so yeah, it’ll be useful.

If you think ranger lb will be useful you are out of your mind. I genuinely feel bad for rangers if those patch notes are real.

Eviator.9746:

I’d like to see videos of you beating thieves who are trying to gank you open field in WvW. Those videos need to show you being taken by surprise, because that’s the problem. I don’t doubt you can do it, I just want to see how it’s done. We L2P losers need some graphical aids sometimes.

Don’t hold your breath. I was drawn to this thread by someone else, and reading some of the replies is pretty laughable.

So far tonight is very exciting, very fun fighting going on between sbi/bp. The water gate probably wasn’t the wisest of choices. Then again the way you guys circled around at umber, freaking awesome. I’ve honestly never seen sbi use tactics, always numbers. After that I’m impressed.

Though in fairness kitten at how many people you have

edit
Actually after seeing what I saw tonight with AR + SBI I’ve lost all respect for AR.

Coinin.2590:

The funny part I find about this is…if they made it say…badges and gold to get ascended…the SAME people would be in here “kitten”-ing about how long it takes for them to farm that gold without going and having to PvE. The point of ascended gear is that you CAN’T just get it fast. PLUS, WvW has a higher chance of getting ascended gear since we can get it in our chests rank to rank, which can’t be said for anything except 1 chest per day as a chance from FoTM daily. Really….don’t whine and gripe about the daily because if you spend time in WvW you can get it done fast enough as it is. To the poster..maybe if ya hadn’t have spent them on dyes at first you would have had the laurels needed. WvW’ers have the SAME ability to get ascended as PvE’rs, and MORE ability than just straight sPvP’s (since they don’t really need it). In fact, these days WvW’rs have an easier method to even get exotic gear. WvW’rs tend to moan and groan about gear till the dev’s change kitten, then moan and groan about the changes cause it’s still not easy enough -.-

Disclaimer: Yes I am a WvW’rs, and yes, I do have full ascended, and no it didn’t take me long, took me about a month and a half to have full ascended of playing just 2-3 hours a day.

To the “hardcore gamer who posted above”: Yeah…it’s time gated for a reason. Do you also complain that since it takes forever to get a legendary people with 8 full alts like you can’t get it, and therefore they need to make it so you can get legendaries like 10x easier? Heck, lets just put them in the gem store for like 800 crystals and that’ll really make them legendary!!

Wait just a kitten minute. You mean to tell me you get more than one rank a day in wvw? It seems to take me forever to get another rank. Just curious what rank are you exactly?

Honestly we all know how badly implemented wvw is right now. It rewards the wrong things, punishes people for helping their server win, and rewards carebears who don’t even go into wvw. So many problems with wvw, and Anet has pretty much made it clear they aren’t going to change anything. So relax and accept things the way they are, or find another game that makes you happy. I hate it, but that’s just how it is.

Ethan.7182:

Shout out to ALS for knowing how to use arrow carts above and beyond the normal limits!

They certainly do. I posted some screen shots of it.

Abe Kleine.3568:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Noodica.5428:

AR, about 2 hours ago, we saved your eb keep from a SBI 15 golem rush and a omega.
Then you repay us by flipping all our camps and trying to take our keeps-.-

Anyways, SBI has really kitten ed me off today.
Just because “in my opinion” they have little to no coordination or skill and just use their numbers to their advantage. Honestly couldn’t care less, but just letting you know to expect me on your borderlands 24/7 starting later tonight heheh.

Ar will do it every single time. I’ve learned after last night, no mercy. Well we had to report several sbi last night for hacking, annoying but didn’t really work for them.

Sorry if a few of our scrubs might be hacking. Were proud to have one of the more “clean” servers unlike some of the old ones we’ve fought before. Most in our TS agree on that. And if any of us in our TS saw someone hacking regardless of team we would report it asap.

I feel the same way. I know it makes me unpopular but back when the mesmer portal hacks were going on I did report some bp for it. Crap like that ruins the game. It becomes an arms race of who can have the better hacks. There isn’t any in game skill in that. I can promise you if I see bp do it I will do the same thing. I might be a bit of a kitten on the forums, but there is a line you don’t cross (at least for me).

Noodica.5428:

AR, about 2 hours ago, we saved your eb keep from a SBI 15 golem rush and a omega.
Then you repay us by flipping all our camps and trying to take our keeps-.-

Anyways, SBI has really kitten ed me off today.
Just because “in my opinion” they have little to no coordination or skill and just use their numbers to their advantage. Honestly couldn’t care less, but just letting you know to expect me on your borderlands 24/7 starting later tonight heheh.

Ar will do it every single time. I’ve learned after last night, no mercy. Well we had to report several sbi last night for hacking, annoying but didn’t really work for them.

Amurond.4590:

Sigh getting stampeded over during a decent 1v1 gets old real fast. I know, I know, WvW isn’t about 1v1 but unfortunately nothing else is either and it’s the best we’ve got.

Why don’t you guys use the custom arena’s that people have made just for that? I don’t understand why it’s such a bad thing.

Is it to early to call it?

Dovgan.8605:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Dovgan.8605:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Soo has AR just given up or what?

Considering a lot of us are on EST and CST, it’s after midnight/1 am. Some people choose to make this game their second job, some people don’t.

Calm down I was being kitten, just asking. To be fair some of us don’t need 12 hours of sleep.

I get about 4 a night. Been that way for years(job/house/family keeps me busy.) However, I would love to some day get at least 8

edit: Not getting excited, this is usually when you see about half our population log out, it’s normal.

To be fair I keep trying to cut ar a break. I see you guys taking back one of your sup camps and I back off. Every time though, every single time without fail they turn on me. A few days ago I ran off an sbi to help them, and they thanked me by attacking me. I’m not the only one, several that I’ve run with tonight would make comments about feeling bad for you guys.

Dovgan.8605:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Soo has AR just given up or what?

Considering a lot of us are on EST and CST, it’s after midnight/1 am. Some people choose to make this game their second job, some people don’t.

Calm down I was being kitten, just asking. To be fair some of us don’t need 12 hours of sleep.

edit was supposed to be wasn’t being a kitten.

Soo has AR just given up or what?

Hell yeah another week with you two. Ty rng gods.

This is going to be fun. I was going to put off a week to raise funds (spent so much gold last week) it can wait.

Thorson.9218:

DtC.4806:

We both had 60-80 each

And what’s with SBI’s 80’s ganking uplevels? Never have I seen so much of that from a server snip.

Now you know what SBI means by “open field” combat. Waiting around for a level 50 to appear, kill him, then run like hell when BP/AR even numbers appear.

I wish Anet would just release population stats already and solve all of this “you have more numbers” bs.

To SBI, why would I be angry. BP won. Did you read the chat from my screen shots. The thing about my server is we have fun, and we still win. I guess that’s what happens when you are on a server with people that have skill. You get to have your cake and eat it too.

Please note I have not said I am one of those with skill, but BP has got some really good players on it. I sometimes get just lost watching those guys play in the smaller numbers.

Gravy.7589:

Fun bantering with you BP, but taking a break now. Enjoy the rest of you’re night.

LOL run away with your tail tucked, seems to be what you are good at when you get called out on anything. You lied, got called on it and changed the subject to bp coming to eb. They did and took your precious sm (you know the one your server lost the week to hold). What do you do? Run.

Gravy.7589:

I am soooo angry, ROAR!! LMAO. Someone from BP posted bought how they are going to come into EB tonight and show us just how great they are. You came into EB and we showing you the floor. Pure win. This is great stuff. Loving it BP.

Wow you must be looking at a completely different eb than me.

Nuzt.7894:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Gravy.7589:

Evilzara.6378:

After seeing how many SBI are in eternal, there’s no reason for you guys to be losing this bad. You guys are just terrible, learn to WvW please and don’t complain about “outmanned in Home BL” because all your numbers are in Eternal.

Have you even bothered to read this thread? Are you scared to come into EB. Right now the forces are split in half running separate parts of the map and the people I am with are rolling BP with not a lot of numbers. Or are you mad you came to EB and are getting rolled. I think you got you’re kitten ruffled and don’t like. This post seem awfully angry for no reason, lol.

Grats on the points win. You all deserved it. Hope to get BP again, cause when you all not rolling with 40+ you melt like paper.

Not alot of numbers huh? Fortunately at bp we take screen shots to prove you are full of it.
Need more? I’ve got plenty showing the numbers. Continue to lie to yourself if you want, but you will never improve that way. Some of them are even funny, like this guy using zoom.

I’m not saying this to defend anyone, but I clearly am not seeing what your seeing.
1st screenie is a battle at a camp … wheres the zoom hack
2nd screenie is a char standing on a hill … wheres the zoom
3rd screenie is a AC placed at the bottom of a wall, hitting the top of the wall … no zoom needed for this.

Maybe I’m not seeing something, this is not a troll or a defence its an honest question, what are you looking at here that makes you think zoom hack ?

Edit: ok the third screen is not hitting the top o the wall, but you don’t show where its hitting, its an AC firing, thats it thats all.

The first two were showing their numbers, He claimed they didn’t have many. The third was the zoom. Below is where he wakittenting. You can check the time on both if you want.

forces are split in half running separate parts of the map and the people I am with are rolling BP with not a lot of numbers

That part specifically. He didn’t realize people were taking screen shots to call him on it.

Gravy.7589:

Oh now lets play the numbers game so you all feel better bout getting beaten in the open field. I guess you all not so pro after all. Ego’s are being bruised, I can feel it. And those screen shots don’t really show much, um lol. Keep more coming, I would like to see em all. I like screenies!! :P

Lol mad you got called on your lie. I understand, but next time just avoid it by telling the truth. Never know when someone like me is going to have proof you are full of it.

Gravy.7589:

Evilzara.6378:

After seeing how many SBI are in eternal, there’s no reason for you guys to be losing this bad. You guys are just terrible, learn to WvW please and don’t complain about “outmanned in Home BL” because all your numbers are in Eternal.

Have you even bothered to read this thread? Are you scared to come into EB. Right now the forces are split in half running separate parts of the map and the people I am with are rolling BP with not a lot of numbers. Or are you mad you came to EB and are getting rolled. I think you got you’re kitten ruffled and don’t like. This post seem awfully angry for no reason, lol.

Grats on the points win. You all deserved it. Hope to get BP again, cause when you all not rolling with 40+ you melt like paper.

Not alot of numbers huh? Fortunately at bp we take screen shots to prove you are full of it.

Need more? I’ve got plenty showing the numbers. Continue to lie to yourself if you want, but you will never improve that way. Some of them are even funny, like this guy using zoom.

LilMcGinley.3890:

Jericho.4521:

LilMcGinley.3890:

Penguin.5197:

I don’t understand why thieves would get torment too. They’re already the fastest class and hard to catch as it is, no it seems you would get punished too if you try and chase after them.

Of course we don’t know how exactly the new condition is gonna work yet or how powerful it is but that is just my initial assumption.

I raced a warrior on my thief while farming coffers, beat me to almost every one, I even used Inf strike and shadowstep to try and win. GS/Sword+warhorn is more mobile than a thief sadly. Maybe I’m just bad but they are almost on par with each other depending on the situation.

Well one of the biggest advantages with thief is Z-axis teleports, of which warriors have none. So given flat terrain, yes a warrior might beat you in a straight line but that’s about it.

True, but there are very few places (in WvW) where a thief can port up.

I’m waiting to see how the implement this condition. I think a lot of people are overthinking this, not to mention, ANet picked these classes for a reason we can’t clearly see.

I’m sorry but I just don’t see how that is possible (for a warrior to beat a thief). Short bow alone covers more than anything they can do. 25% speed buff from signet/swift on dodge etc.

Let them believe whatever they need to in order to sooth their ego. Uploaded a pic of our awesome numbers on eb =P

Yerffejy.6538:

I think in reality, people stay on EB during NA primetime because SBIers do, in fact, like winning.

And on EB, that is what we do. Our EB crew is super amazing in open-field fights, and I mean that. I have seen our zerg fight 2 enemy zergs of equal numbers on both sides of us, and we come out on top. I even sat there like.. WUT HAPPENED? We were surrounded!

So I think most of the people who go onto EB are looking to win, and they don’t really care about the points. They are just looking for good fights that they know they can win.

While it does indeed suck that our BL maps are left almost entirely empty due to this, I can’t fault people for having fun. I occasionally join in on EB to take part in the epic wipes we have against enemy zergs. At points, enemies just learn to run when they see our zerg approaching, because they know they will lose…

Held off by 7 people, and easily taken out repeatedly because they lack any positioning.
They can win in EB because BP only dedicates minimal man power to holding our keep/few others. The war is won in the bls, not in EB and just looking at the score will prove that.

You might “win” in eb, but consider what you are fighting. We are just having fun most of the time in eb. Example from yesterday.

Second one is my favorite, Charr streaking through sm. lol

Jyeoi.6027:

I care about winning. Jic does too. Wraith, Krash etc. I could go on.

Thing is we see so much noobness if we try to correct it all, we’d all go bald. (no offense to bald guys)

We try to help in ways we can but our patience has limits too and sadly a lot of it has been reached, so they just go along.

Come to BP. Take your pick of other servers that will actually appreciate and welcome that attitude. I would rather have my server say “yeah we lost, but we tried kitten hard” over “we don’t care about winning”.

There are plenty of servers where you would be appreciated I’m sure.

Always funny listening to the server with the most players start the crap talking, lol. What would a wvw thread be without it? We da best because we got da most people!

We had SEVEN people on EB defending at vel/ow/keep earlier. Seven against all of those sbi. That’s not a joke. Maybe the numbers seem inflated because we turned back a much larger force. I’m sure I have some screen shots if you guys want me to look. I’m not claiming you guys outnumber us all of the time, but at least on EB you guys have a much larger presence. That’s been admitted to earlier.

As for the other part, I misunderstood. Sorry.

Amurond.4590:

A LOT of SBIers do not care about winning the match-up.

Good, because you don’t seem to be able to. I just don’t understand how you guys got higher ranked than bp, or ar. Nothing against you personally but as for wvw both are above you in tactics alone.

Oh and consider it pried.

We got asked to help on eb, but only had 7 people to fight the ar/sbi. Not saying you guys were allied, just that you were fighting our guards together and not fighting each other =P. Either way we still held out. Just don’t have the numbers to compete. It’s cool though, we still win this week =)

Charr streaking through sm, lol this is pretty fun. Almost made a full lap that time =P

Snowreap.5174:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

This isn’t true at all, and I demonstrated this earlier today. I can upload some screen shots of it right now if you want?

I totally stand corrected then. when I tried this myself the first time I never made the window any wider than it would have been with 3 widescreen monitors side-by-side (a 48:9 aspect ratio). and sized that way, you can’t usually see anything especially useful (a little bit extra, but not enough to explain some of the crazy things I’ve seen).

but sized down to the equivalent of 5, 7 or 9 monitors side-by-side, you can. once you get about 7 monitors wide, there’s pretty much nothing you can’t see, in certain spots. so unfortunately this doesn’t always have to be a hack. but there are certain spots you can’t see over no matter how wide the window (for example, you cannot shoot into the courtyard of the SW borderland tower from just north of the balcony behind the lord room without zoom hacks, no matter how wide your window).

so I still encourage people to try this themselves, and if they see behavior they can’t reproduce themselves without hacks, to report it.

-ken

Oh there is a hack going around absolutely. I didn’t mean to come off as a kitten. You can actually go smaller than what I posted above and it will clip through walls. I don’t think the game was designed to handle situations like that. Other than enforcing an aspect ratio I don’t think there is anything they can do about the screen resizing.

As for the hack yeah it is very annoying. I hope they do catch the people using it and ban the hell out of them.

lol well now that we’ve got this one won we can start having fun.

Nuzt.7894:

Straegen.2938:

Fxncy.2398:

Good fights and good match up but why do all the BP forum warriors claim to have queued ARBL..?

Because people talk across servers all the time. I party chat with AR and SBI regularly particularly after a good fight.

Players can also see the out manned buff on enemies so a lot of the “we were out manned” statements often fall on deaf ears since the other server usually knows.

Friday night about 10:00 EST we had a Que for AR BL, that is the only Que we have had this week, unless we were Que’d in the middle of the day while everyones working which is doubtful. It doesn’t really matter anyways, as for the seeing outmanned buff, I thought I read it was changed so enemy players cannot see it, maybe its in an upcoming patch.

I could sit here and tell you BP outnumbers both the other servers until I’m blue in the face but you guys won’t accept it, even SBI has mentioned this. We deal with it, I personally don’t care about being outnumbered its part of the game and its good for BP, it definately helps your server. Theres nothing wrong with it but don’t deny its a factor.

No, BP provides screen shots proving it isn’t true. Of course who cares about silly things like proof here.

Snowreap.5174:

Dio.2394:

Can you get the higher zoom without hacking? For example, if you play on 3 monitors, do you get that level of zoom by default?

you can see exactly what would happen by pressing Alt-Enter to switch your game from fullscreen to windowed mode. then resize your window so it’s really wide but not very tall, as if you had 3 monitors. or heck, 5 or 7 monitors if that’s what you want.

if you do that, you will discover that it actually doesn’t help that much when you’re close to a structure. it widens your field of view so you can see more stuff at once without moving your camera, but it doesn’t actually make previously-invisible things visible.

in particular, making the window really really wide won’t let you see over a wall to let you shoot an arrow cart at something inside. doing that requires you to zoom your camera out far enough that the camera is well above the wall, which is what allows you to see over the top of it.

in order to see behind a wall, you need hacks / exploits — those can do things regular panoramic views can’t, and those are the things that need to be vigorously reported to arenanet any time you see them.

try the windowed mode thing yourself so you know what is possible that way, and what’s not possible. and anything that’s not possible, REPORT.

(the exception to seeing behind walls is if there’s any kind of hole that you can see through, such as the gap above a gate. don’t confuse people targeting through the gap above a gate as hackers).

-ken

This isn’t true at all, and I demonstrated this earlier today. I can upload some screen shots of it right now if you want?

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7550/mubv.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1025634_10100382873311039_1463426010_o.jpg

Everything is the same except the size of the window

With one of those I can’t see to shoot past the wall, with the other I can. This was at red keep water gate and is just an example, not something I do.

Also it’s more like a fish eye than just a fov widening. At least to me, but as you can see you can infact see, and target areas you wouldn’t normall be able to. I can show another example outside in a keep. You can use it to hit areas you can’t normally see to hit.

The only way I can see to fix it would be to enforce at most a certain ratio. If you have the monitor for it you can shrink it down to about ~30:1 as it is now.

edit Just did some more outside, and if I don’t get an infraction for those I will upload more showing that it does allow you to see and place in areas you normally can’t.

A few more modest examples
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6669/wa9u.jpg
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/8795/vrcl.jpg

Dio.2394:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

People asked about the different levels of zoom in the game, and what they look like for various reasons. So I uploaded 2 screen shots.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1014571_10100381928958529_316332088_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1025545_10100381928669109_1697770479_o.jpg

One higher zoom, and one regular.

The game is much more beautiful with higher zoom. I couldn’t stand playing that way though. The depth blur from it makes my head pound like crazy. This does apply to wvw though, for example placing an ac targeting area.

Can you get the higher zoom without hacking? For example, if you play on 3 monitors, do you get that level of zoom by default?

Yes, but in that case it still isn’t enough. I took those with a large monitor and still had to window resize to give an example. There are people who use something that zooms them out like they are fighting a boss so they can stay in a “regular” window and still see that much though.

Someone post a score update? If there is any need. It’s pretty clear who won this week.

Kodiack.2783:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Kodiack.2783:

Straegen.2938:

Kodiack.2783:

You know, when our two most recent opponents that have faced both BP and AR are saying the same thing. You might want to figure that there is something to what they are saying.

Consider what you are saying: 90% of BP is a mess and that mess is beating both AR and SBI. Either a server is fighting well against a good opponent or getting hammered by an unorganized mess making said server ineffective. I simply don’t believe AR or SBI to be any less effective or more organized than BP hence the score being so close.

Since the lower tiers are more PUG than organized guilds, everyone around here is messy some of the time. We all have zergs running on our servers in this tier at different times of the day, we all have skilled skirmishers and we all have to fight out manned frequently.

There is no dishonor in admitting an opponent is worthy… there is dishonor in the opposite.

wow. some things never change. that’s a long winded way of using the tired ol BP line, “we’re not bigger than you, we’re just better”

Guess what. 90% of your success comes form fielding a larger force than your opponent. That holds true for every server in every tier. Yet somehow, magically, this does not apply to BP. And that’s your main problem. Every BP troll that has graced this forums has come across and a clueless nub that can’t admit that they win because they have more …. 8 months or so later BP still thinks it wins due to skill.

We are winning, and have the outmanned buff for awhile now on eb.
Um, next excuse?

Would someone on BP please explain to this guy that there are 4 maps in WvW , 7 days in the match and 24 hours in each day. Big numbers I know, maybe you could use crayons.

You said 90% of our success comes from fielding a larger group. Yet here we are winning on eb specifically while having outmanned pretty much all day/last night. Now let’s say that 10% of the total hours in a week. That’s 168 hours, we should only be able to do that ~17 hours. Yet we’ve been doing it for longer. So either you have to rethink your numbers, OR you have to admit that superior tactics can make up for it sometimes. Not all of the time, but a fair portion of it. Though admittedly SBI is pushing the map like crazy they can’t crack ow/vel/keep and we were at the lord in sm.

By the way, did AR just give up eb completely?

People asked about the different levels of zoom in the game, and what they look like for various reasons. So I uploaded 2 screen shots.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1014571_10100381928958529_316332088_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1025545_10100381928669109_1697770479_o.jpg

One higher zoom, and one regular.

The game is much more beautiful with higher zoom. I couldn’t stand playing that way though. The depth blur from it makes my head pound like crazy. This does apply to wvw though, for example placing an ac targeting area.

Kodiack.2783:

Straegen.2938:

Kodiack.2783:

You know, when our two most recent opponents that have faced both BP and AR are saying the same thing. You might want to figure that there is something to what they are saying.

Consider what you are saying: 90% of BP is a mess and that mess is beating both AR and SBI. Either a server is fighting well against a good opponent or getting hammered by an unorganized mess making said server ineffective. I simply don’t believe AR or SBI to be any less effective or more organized than BP hence the score being so close.

Since the lower tiers are more PUG than organized guilds, everyone around here is messy some of the time. We all have zergs running on our servers in this tier at different times of the day, we all have skilled skirmishers and we all have to fight out manned frequently.

There is no dishonor in admitting an opponent is worthy… there is dishonor in the opposite.

wow. some things never change. that’s a long winded way of using the tired ol BP line, “we’re not bigger than you, we’re just better”

Guess what. 90% of your success comes form fielding a larger force than your opponent. That holds true for every server in every tier. Yet somehow, magically, this does not apply to BP. And that’s your main problem. Every BP troll that has graced this forums has come across and a clueless nub that can’t admit that they win because they have more …. 8 months or so later BP still thinks it wins due to skill.

We are winning, and have the outmanned buff for awhile now on eb.
Um, next excuse?

Kodiack.2783:

Straegen.2938:

Icy.1396:

Also you guys failed miserably to take any keeps last night when we actually had coverage… You must feel a great scene of accomplishment rolling our map when there is a total of 5 players on it.

I don’t want to take away from either side during that battle because I think that lessons both sides accomplishments. AR fought valiantly to defend Bay but BP did come incredibly close to capping a fully upgraded and supplied keep on a capped map where the defender has more numbers.

Also worth mentioning is that defense did save keeps but lost a castle in the process. Had SBI focused AR map during that time it is likely AR hills or AR garrison would have fallen. Again lots of good fighting and both sides deserve and atta-boy IMO.

Your the second one to say that AR had the map Qd. We didn’t.

[CRIT] was running homeland defense with about 12-15. I joined with my tag up from SBI with another 10-12. We were cleaning up the map when the attack on Bay started.

You had us outnumbered

Everyone on the map about 30-40 ran to Bay, I threw down lots of defensive siege inside inner to hold out. You busted in thru north and setup your trebs.

You had us outnumbered

about 10 -13 of us went to Garry and ran a suicide run @ your trebs, we failed.

You had us outnumbered

We tried again when we put up a counter treb behind your trebs, it failed.

You had us outnumbered

we fell back to inner bay as the walls were close to falling, I put out a general call for [ALS] to come defend, they showed up, no Q.

You had us outnumbered

Walls down, we held you off with ACs, on your 2nd or 3rd push we maned to wipe you guys. With enough [ALS] on the map , our 2nd commander tagged up and pushed out to clear your trebs. I ran some pugs north to recap and run supply to Bay.

You had us outnumbered

Our 2nd commander sweeped bay and pushed you out for the first time, I ran 25 guys to sweep our north and Eastside of the map . You pushed back into bay for the 2nd time while we had split up.

You had us outnumbered

I swept in from the south with my 25 while you had two groups in Bay, one large group in the water and another @ south gate. our 2nd commander, Smuurr, was dug into inner awaiting our arrival. We clashed @ south and cleared your pugs from the gate and my group manged to close the gate while Smuurr cleaned out both the pugs and then the larger group that came from the water.

You had us outnumbered

I again took 12-15 with me north and east to defend hills north gate, while Smuurr held off your main force inside Bay. I believe he cleared you out for the 2nd time and you pushed back in again from the northgate and setup trebs on our NE wall.

You had us outnumbered

It wasn’t until the 3rd time you busted into Bay that our 3rd commander from EB, 40 oz came to ARBL with his forces…. ARBL still not Qd, maybe after he showed up was it Qd.

It wasn’t until 40 showed up that our forces were equal in size that we could afford to push you hard enough to secure bay, secure Garry from 2 golem rushes ( one bailed before it got started cuz I spotted it in the south).

It was a fun night for everyone , but please stop making it sound like you had to overcome our massive numbers.

Please quote where in the post you replied to said you guys had a Q. Simply that you had more numbers. You know what would set that guy straight, kitten of it with you guys have the outmanned buff. That would sure prove your side. Should I hold my breath?

You know whoever that was outside of Umber just now that was pretty cheap. I watch as you cap umber from sbi, even run off an sbi for you. Then when you come at me I salute you and wait. What did you do, attack.

Now I’m going to take that camp, or help sbi do it.

edit:done

Icy.1396:

Evilzara.6378:

Where’s that guy that said we couldn’t cap any of AR’s keeps? Well Kalkz and I thought otherwise.

that guy is currently at work… like most of the rest of our server… Guess you guys proved that you have a lot more unemployed people than AR does… You win in game, we win in life =P

WTF you expect us to work 24 hour shifts or something. 5am to 2pm should be enough already. Maybe that doesn’t count for you, but just because we are on now doesn’t mean we don’t have jobs. Guess any excuse will work when you are that far behind.

Meh apparently posting things about certain servers (we all know who) hacking is against forum rules. I’m curious if posting screens of them doing it is the same?

If only [Lost] were as good at fighting as they are at running their mouths on the forum… I’d challenge you to an open field fight with equal numbers but knowing you guys, you might quit and transfer servers again, just to talk more kitten like you’ve earned the right to it.

As I explained to someone last night in bp this isn’t a death match. You don’t win by getting the most kills. You win by taking a point lead, and then defending that lead. It’s why BP just stopped spending so many resources on SM. It’s worth 35 points, which is the equivalent of a 1 keep + 1 tower. Those are much easier to take/hold than sm is. First you have to get it, then spend a ton of resources upgrading/defending it.

It’s really not worth it. We’ve had SM a few times, but in the end most of our group didn’t move to defend because they were focused on defending/taking more important things. Sm offers an advantage for pushing, a safe treb site, and a mid map wp that is pretty easily contested.