Guild Wars 2

People have been talking a lot about Canach lately… ANet, take the hint! xD
I don’t mind, I LOVE to talk about him.

Alright, we don’t know nearly as much about Canach as I wish we did, but I don’t think he would need Scarlet to break him out of prison. I mean, he raided the Molten Facility ALONE. Yeah, really. That vegetable is a beast.

Also, he is not really evil, so it would take a lot of convincing to make him follow Scarlet’s bloody plans and to turn against the Pale Tree (well, maybe it is possible if he is a soundless. We don’t know that).

Finally, he is a proud Secondborn sylvari with delusions of grandeur. I would be surprised if he just accepted Scarlet’s orders, just like that, specially since the last people he took orders from let him take the fall and tried to kill him later (I am looking at you, Noll).

I want him back, but as an ally, not as a villain. It wouldn’t suit him and I hate when a character’s personality is suddenly changed. He has a lot of potential that would go to waste if he became one of Scarlet’s puppets, IMO.

I like it as a whole. I really liked the Bazaar, it was my favourite update, but I really hated Canach’s Lair for example. I hate Kiel and Noll, but I love Canach and Marjory, so I’m ok with the characters too. I liked the Bazaar so much that it makes up for everything that I hated about the other chapters of the Living Story.

For me, the good stuff makes up for the bad stuff, and that’s why I almost never complain :T

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Gabby, if sylvari’s appearance changing is something relatively common, then of course people who are used to working with sylvari – such as Kiel – wouldn’t comment on it. She wouldn’t find it out of the ordinary. She knew it was Canach because it was his lair and his actions of fighting back was basically screaming “I’m Canach!”

Hmm yeah, that makes sense. And Blingg recognized his voice before seeing him, if I remember the short story correctly. Kiel probably expected that his appearance was different and that he wouldn’t be in a good shape living as a fugitive, so that’s why she wasn’t surprised.
You are right, it is weird for the player at first but there is no reason for the npcs to say anything about it, since they should be used to it.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

It’s actually loosely upheld that sylvari appearances can change based on their psychological stability. Any life-changing events can end up changing their appearance.

Scarlet went through the same as Canach, for example.

I am aware of that, but that’s not the problem I have with what happened to Canach. The problem is that nobody in game said anything about the changes. Kiel recognized him just fine and said nothing about it the fact that he looked like an entirely different person. It really felt like ANet just changed him because they needed him to look more menacing, and then came up with an excuse later.

darkace.8925:

I’m sure at some point Scarlet will corrupt, coerce, or co opt Canach. After all, she’s already managed to bring the Flame Legion, the Dredge, the Aethyrblade Sky Pirates, and who knows who else under her command.

I really hope not. He is a Secondborn, and a really proud one (with delusions of grandeur). I don’t think he would follow Scarlet’s plan simply because he would probably see her as someone inferior, since that’s how he see pretty much everybody else. Ending up under Scarlet’s command wouldn’t fit his personality.

^Isn’t that enough reason to bring him back?
He is a good character.
For the people that don’t know who he is, there is the Wiki (though it would be better if they were told about him in game).

I really want him back.

A Dev said that his appearance changed because he was going through hell, being hunt by mercenaries, being sleep deprived, starving, etc. I don’t believe it, I think that it was because “bad guys can’t look pretty”, since Kiel didn’t say anything about the change in game.

If Canach ever comes back, it would be cool if someone talked about his appearance in game. The player could just ask him “What happened to you? You look… uhh…” and having him answer “Are you trying to say ‘terrible’? I don’t need your sympathy”. It would be even better if he came back healed, though I don’t think that someone rotting in prison would be able to heal. Well, at least he can eat and sleep now, and nobody is hunting him down. They could give him an unique appearance, something between his old one and his new one.

Also, I would like him to come back as an ally, not as a villain. He could help us against Scarlet, hopefully he knows a thing or two about cannonballs :P

He is one of my favourite characters in the entire game, so I was very happy that I didn’t have to kill him in his lair.

Nilkemia.8507:

Shiren.9532:

Zhaitan killed Tybalt Leftpaw. Checkmate.

And Forgal and Seiran. Well, his minions did it, but still more or less it was Zhaitan. Triple Checkmate. Scarlet hasn’t killed anyone important.

Well, Theo Ashford was killed by the Aetherblades, and they work for her, so that’s kinda like if she had killed him, right?
Anyway, she almost killed Faren, but I think that the whole thing was just an excuse to give us MOAR Faren on a speedo. Well played, ANet.

You know what, it is odd indeed that no dev posted here yet.

They are probably busy watching us speculate and laughing at all the crazy theories.

Or maybe they are really hiding something. BRB gotta get my tin foil hat.

A Massive Headache.1879:

Kiel kind of finished what he started with freeing the people from the consortium, so your action to kick her would be dumb.

And got all the credit for it, having a settler even to thank her and to say that she “solved everything so easily” when comparing her solution with Canach’s, even though Kiel would have solved nothing if it wasn’t for Canach to begin with. Then, she threw Canach in jail and we never heard of him again, while she got promoted all the way to captain.

I don’t mind when characters get the credit for what the player did (Like Trahearne, I really don’t mind him), but I do mind when characters get the credit for what other characters did, specially when I like these other characters better (Canach and Marjory).
I hate Kiel since the first Southsun event and I always wanted to kick her face, that’s nothing new

Thobek.1730:

I want him back too. Perhaps his actions were out of desperation. To date he is one of the most interesting characters. A villian? anti-hero? who knows, they should bring in new writers to develop him further. I believe he is cunning enough to escape his cell and I hope he does as well.

I would like him to become more of an anti-hero whose methods are questionable but not completely ruthless as to turn people away from him. A bit like a vigilante. If there was a quest to break him out of jail I’d do it.

This a gazillion times. And if I could kick Kiel’s face while at it, even better.

Nobody ever talked about him on interviews though (I mean, since the SoS is over). He is probably not so popular, nobody ever asks the devs about him. I just hope that he has not simply disappeared.

It would put me at ease if we could at least see him and talk to him while he is in prison, like with Mai Trin.

Never had the battery event fail, so I never got it.
The overflows that I get on can’t get to the battery event, and when I’m on the main server the battery event never fails. I guess I am not getting it.

^Again, Canach was not thinking straight. He was running for his life for months, starving, barely sleeping, being hunt by mercenaries and completely alone. The radical change on his looks translates this, according to a dev’s post. He was desperate and in a pretty bad shape. Wanting him to develop a master plan would be asking too much. The guy could barely survive, give him a break.
If anything, the fact that he made such a mess just makes him an even better character.
Ugh, I really want him back.

^LA is not part of Kryta. It is politically independent.

Instead, the hearts could be replaced by other hearts as the world changes. But I would like them to be removed and replaced by DEs better, too.

NO. Canach 4 life <3

Though he is more like an antihero than a villain, and the Consortium is anything but innocent.
Kiel’s little plan would have been good for nothing if Canach hadn’t destroy the copies of the contracts in LA.
Canach was desperate. He was being hunt like an animal by the Consortium and he was completely alone (a dev said that. He is a sylvari, that’s not good for them). He was trying to do the right thing while getting rid of the people trying to kill him. I can’t blame him.

I hope that ANet still remebers him. I really want to see Canach again.

I care. I can sell them for their skins, use the gold to buy cheaper exotic ones and salvage them for Globs of Dark Matter, used to make ascended weapons.

Scarlet’s crew killed Captain Theo Ashford, it makes sense that the Lionguard would try to find her. After all, the other captains wouldn’t like to die in the same way, I would bet. They want her dead or in jail. It is like it was with Canach. He was in Southsun Cove, but he commited crimes against Lion’s Arch and he scaped LA’s prision, so the Lionguard was after him anyway.
Also, like Ghost said, Kiel.
They were probably not spying on the Nightmare Court, but just following Scarlet’s tracks.

Nilkemia.8507:

It’s also speculated that with Zhaitan’s death, his power is spreading to the remaining Risen, making them stronger.

You know what would be cool? If Teq had consumed some of Zhaitan’s remains. We know that a dragon’s remains are powerful and magical because of the Zephyrites and the way they used Glint’s bones.
Now, dragons get stronger by consuming magical artifacts. We saw the power of Glint’s bones, now imagine the power of the remains of an Elder Dragon. If Teq is consuming/had consumed Zhaitan’s remains, that would explain why he got stronger.

^I see your point and I agree with it completely, though I would probably have ragequitted and cried myself to sleep if Faren had died. I mean, my heart skipped a beat and I was like “NOOOOO” when he fell… Doesn’t matter, had Faren. On a speedo. Again. TYVM Anet <3

This kind of moral choice is awesome and I would like to see that happening, just like I would have loved to stay behind with good ol’ Tibs and help him fighting the undead, even if he ended up dead anyway. I hated that I had to run away while my mentor perished.

Edit: Faren is not a coward. Anyone that played the human noble story line knows that. Why does everybody seems to think that he is a coward? ~.~

Katran.9186:

Well we didn’t recieve even a word about dragons (till Tequatl Rising, which is revamp without much lore in it. Glint had, but I was talking about our existing enemies) for a year. Are they even main threat? We already have a lack of grimdark and stuff, when dragons just aren’t mentioned for a year – it kills all scraps of atmosphere that remained.

As for Elona and Cantha. Well, I like Elona much-much more, so I just hope for getting there in game. Cantha doesn’t bother me that much (I don’t like “asian” setting and I find Elona more intriguing)

The only thing that we do know right now is that this year was the year of the recurring festivals (and that’s why there were so many of them). That was confirmed already. Now that they are done with the recurring festival, they are working on the permanent stuff. I am hoping for bigger changes, now.

My only concern is that they still say that they don’t want to create paradoxes with the Personal Story, so that new players won’t be confused. That can be really bad for the story’s progression, IMO. I hope that they dropped that line of thought already, seeing how the Pact was obviously already formed in the Living Story time-line (again, why is Trahearne ignoring the LS?).

Katran.9186:

Gabby.3205:

It is not “Scarlet again”, it is “still Scarlet”.

What? You wanted the plot to be dropped like that, in the middle, before anything is solved?

Yes. Just the way they did with our main threat – Trahearne Dragons.

The fact that Trahearne is not part of the living story even though it makes no sense for him not to get involved bothers me (it feels that he was cut out just because nobody likes him, even though it doesn’t make sense for him to be simply cut out), but what makes you think that the main story line was dropped?
We’ve got dragon lore recently, too. The Zephyrites with Glint and now Tequatl getting stronger.
Also, I would be upset if we killed every elder dragon during the first year of the game. What would we do after that? Really, it would be the worst possible thing for the story of the game.

Also, yes, it would be cool to fight Palawa Joko, but that’s for when we get to Elona. When, not if. Elona is pretty much a given, I would be more worried about Cantha if I were you.

lordkrall.7241:

It is however permanent, so being lvl 80 shouldn’t be much of an issue.

This. You have plenty of time to level up before trying it.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

If you say, “I am a solo player” – group content isn’t for you. Scarlet’s last mission let you choose to go in solo or with a group, so there’s no excuse for not being able to do it. As for having a poor group, all you can do it find another one.

I really doubt that this new instance won’t be a 5-men dungeon, since it was announced as a new path inside an already existing 5-men dungeon (TA).

But my point is that people will complain about it. There is no way to please everybody, and the only way for a player to like every single update is to be open to try new things. Because, IMO, the updates were all good (the Canach Lair was really disappointing, but overall I liked SoS).
The first time in this game that I tried to party up with people that are not my two closest friends was for the Molten Alliance Facility, and it was so awesome that I started trying other stuff in the game too, stuff that I’ve never tried before (PvP, other dungeons, roleplaying in English…) and I found out that I liked everything. For some people, all they have to do is to try the content before saying it is bad.

It is not “Scarlet again”, it is “still Scarlet”.

What? You wanted the plot to be dropped like that, in the middle, before anything is solved?
Well, I want to kill her, I don’t want her to simply disappear after everything she did. She will pay for each and every Norn that the Molten Alliance killed and for trying to cook Faren alive.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Mainly the complaints will come from people who have a hard time doing the new content. We saw that pattern with Tequatl v2.0 last week.

Tequatl was an awesome update. I’m sure Scarlet won’t be a let down as well. And yes, these past and upcoming updates are all permanent.

Don’t forget the posts like “I am a solo player, I refuse to join a group, how am I supposed to run this dungeon? Why, ANet, why?”. Just wait.

Oh, and of course, “My party was full of n00bs, I just wasted 20 minutes! Why would you do that ANet?”.

Every new LW sub-forum has a thread like this, and the update always end up being bigger than what people thought initially.

+1

I can’t handle the hype. I hope that it is going to be like with the Teq fight, that even though I’ve completed it many times now, I still get excited and nervous when Teq shows up.

I have high hopes for this update.

^If you think that we suddenly went from medieval to steampunk, you were not paying attention to the story.

^Just to add to that, Queensdale is not as profitable as people that do not farm the champions seem to think.

I love to follow the zerg at Queensdale after a long day of work/college/dungeon running. It is relaxing, the people are fun and I can get a bunch of greens and blues to salvage for Luck Essences. I go to Orr or Frostgorge when I want gold though, because the champions there only drop Exotic champion bags. Queensdale’s champions can drop lower quality champion bags (and they do that all the time), so Queensdale Farming does not have a good time x gold ratio.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

But I would honestly enjoy Canach becoming an ally we fight with. His story is already set up to being an anti-hero. He fought the Molten Alliance so he may have ran into Braham and Rox even though we didn’t then. He would make a perfect anti-hero for the GW2 story. If done right. He sees himself as a hero of the people, but he goes a little too far (at least when Consortium is involved) and doesn’t really think about how his actions affect the people, making him a conflicted character through his actions if nothing else.

It makes sense, though he does not have an unique appearance like Braham and Rox. Both Canach’s old and new looks are available to any player on the Character Creator. But hey, his looks were completely changed once, they can change again, right? (Maybe to something unique this time)

I really hope that they are not redacting that.
If they insist with the “let’s not create paradoxes” stuff, the Living Story will change nothing that matters. And since they don’t want to make an expansion anytime soon, the story won’t evolve. The Foefire won’t be dealt with, the peace treaty between charr and human won’t ever be signed, the other dragons won’t be killed… If nothing important changes, the world does not feel alive, and that’s the objective of the Living Story, right?

Also, the paradoxes are still there if a player never get to the part of the Personal Story when the Pact is formed.

^I would like to see pics of that person that RPed as Jennah, because her outfit is nothing like anything I have ever seen in game. Emi’s outfit is not available either afaik, you must have seen other npcs wearing her outfit, not other players.

I don’t think Faolain and Scarlet will become allies because Scarlet despises the NC as much as she despises… well, everything else. I think she will try to kill Faolain, but we probably won’t be able to pick sides.
I think Caithe will simply come to us saying “Please, don’t let Scarlet kill my beloved Faolain! I beg you!”, and we will go save Faolain.

Rage Tiger.4019:

I totally agree on this. I mean even during the bazaar of four winds event had the spirit race where even though the race was deemed complete you still had to move around or risk getting booted from it. We need something to boot those AFKers, least on the main servers, not the overflows.

Think maybe we can report them and have ANet disconnect them so people from their home servers can actually get to play in the Teq fights. Nothing more annoying than spamming for 3 or more hours to join your party only to keep missing fights.

This. Being AFK at the Sanctum Sprint would do no harm to anyone, but you could be kicked for it.
Being AFK during a boss fight harms everybody that wants to complete the event, but you can’t be kicked for it.

It makes no sense at all.

Press your space bar many times while the wave is coming, do not stop jumping when you think the wave is gone. Start jumping before it gets to you, too. It is going to work most of the times and you will soon get the achievement, even if the jumps were not perfectly timed.

rizzo.1079:

Walhalla.5473:

Erukk.1408:

DarksunG.9537:

lol they are already retconning her because they realized what joke she is! that’s good. the less smart & less powerful & less influential they make her the better. they surely can’t line up that new data with what they’ve said & shown. retcon retcon lols.

It’s not really a retcon. If people read all the dialogue in the Closing Ceremony instance, they would have heard Vorpp say she got engineering degrees at each college. The player base then assumed she also did the entire course work for each college on top of that as well.

You know what happens when people “assume” something…

Sadly it’s too late. People will think of her as a villian sue and put all their hate in her, which is in my opinion unjustified.

But your are right, Anet didn’t retcon her, she wasn’t a sue in the beginning. What Vorrp said could make her this but the short story said that she didn’t graduate from the colleges. She finishes courseworks, it’s not the same as graduating the colleges.

And the eternal alchemy thing? Did someone really believe that she saw the eternal alchemy?

If you don’t want your villain to be a Villain Sue, you should be very careful not to write her like one.

Even though I like Scarlet, I must agree with you. I had a really nice conversation with other roleplayers on the map chat at Divinity’s Reach last night about Mary Sues, and it seemed to be consensus that an unoriginal character can be great if presented correctly (like your average orphan that now kills centaurs to get revenge for his parents, which is like half the human population or so), but a character that could have been awesome can end up as Mary Sue if it is presented as one.

Still, there is something about Scarlet that makes me like her, but I still want to kill her. It was different with Canach, I liked him and I didn’t want him to be harmed even though he was a villain (or “is” a villain… He is alive, as far as I know), and it is also different with Kiel, since I hate her and I want her dead even though she is a hero.

The recomended gear is Soldier if you are with the zerg. You can get a set of PVT gear for karma at the temples, except for the leggings. My Elementalist’s main set is zerker, too, so I know what you mean.
I ran HotW a few times to get the leggings btw.

If you don’t want a new set, protect the turrets.

So it is like the “Claw of Jormag”. It is a title, not an individual. Good.

There are many things that I would like to know. I wonder if Tequatl started “evolving” after Zhaitan’s death. If that’s the case, how did he start evolving, and why? Is he using the magic stored in Zhaitan’s corpse, like the Zephyrites did with Glint’s bones? Can Tequatl raise the dead, like Zhaitan? Is he doing it now, or are the undead on the fight just Zhaitan’s minions that were not killed yet? Is that why Orr is still so full of undead, despite the Pact’s work? Why is Trahearne not involved with the Living Story at all, despite the Pact’s airships being stolen and an undead dragon having showed up way stronger than before? Sure he could at least send me a letter or something. If the Pact is already formed in the Living Story, creating paradoxes with the Personal Story seem to be pointless now.

Alright, I’m done.

RvLeshrac.2673:

The difference is that most fights don’t involve you protecting NPCs or resources from enemies that have geometrically greater amounts of health than their normal counterparts before scaling is applied.

A single grub in the fight is enough to wipe several dozen players, not to mention every turret in an area.

If it is labeled as a [Group Event], then yes, yes they do.

I am sure it is nothing personal, Mia. Nobody answered my questions either, and my first question wasn’t even about timeline issues.

Also, I am confused and I would like to see an official timeline. The wiki’s timeline is outdated.

@Fiendish Puppy: Oh no, I never said it was casual. I said that *there is a role that can be filled by casual players*, which is completely different. There is also a role to be filled with hardcore players (turret users) and there is a role for people that, like me, are "in the middle" (the zerg ball). That’s what I think about the Teq fight: Not hardcore, not casual, but something in the middle of the two concepts.

I talked about the overflow problem, too. Getting someone to ferry you to the main server is going to get easier with time, since not everybody can use de new LFG tool right now.

If they are killing the monsters and keeping the turrets safe, how is that leeching? Oh, there is not enough people zerging Teq’s feet? The DPS is not enough? That happens, and that can even happen to a PUG in a dungeon. Dungeons are hardcore content too?

The coordination necessary is between the zerg ball and the turret users. The turrets users need to know when to cleanse the zerg, when to use the second skill and when to cleanse other turrets. The people in the zerg need to drop banners and conjured weapons (and other people have to pick up the weapons). The people protecting the turrets do not need that.

Other than that, all you need is someone to say on /map when to leave the batteries and the laser and start running back.

Teq has stuff for casual players too. Just defend the turrets. It is no different of the rest of the open world events that need you to kill monsters to protect someone or something.

For people that can dodge well, stack and do not mind spending a few silver waypointing when dead, there is the zerg ball

For people that can pay attention to what they are doing and follow orders, there are turrets that they can control.

If your problem is that your server do not have enough people, you can guest.

If your problem is that you are stuck in the overflow, you can ask people to ferry you to the main server. Party up and spam join. It will get easier the more people start using the LFG tool.

This is not hardcore content. The fight have roles that can be performed for all kinds of players. Also, you do not need a voice chat if you are protecting the turrets. You just have to kill stuff or to aggro stuff away from the turrets.

Poor Trahearne.

Interviewer: So, Marshal, what do you think about the Commander?
Trahearne: Oh, s/he is great. I would be nothing without her/him. I must say that every time I have to send her/him on dangerous missions and I can’t go with her/him, I get terribly worried. I am so glad that s/he have always returned to Fort Trinity safe… S/he is my best friend, you know? (everything based on in-game dialogues)

Interviwer: So, Commander, what do you think about the Marshal?
Commander: I WANT HIM DEEEEEEEEAAAAD

Obs.: If they ever try to make the player kill him, I hope that they will give us the option to side with him. If he says “commander, to me!”, I will run to his side and protect him like I always did

If you can use the LFG tool already, go to another map (you must be on your server, not overflow), post a group invite saying “I need someone to ferry me to the main server for Teq” (if there are no groups ferrying people already), go to Sparkfly Fen and wait.

Once that someone on your server get you in their party, spam join until you get it.

I’m from TC and I never spend more than 20 minutes on an overflow anymore, since I started being able to use the LFG tool yesterday.

Mia Lunarfang.5826:

Tequatl dies -> Zhiatain dies -> Dragon bash/Aetherblades(We know they occur after Zhiatain’s death because of various references they entail, such as Aetherblades stealing Pact Airships) ~time loop~> we fight an improved Tequatl during the Orr offensive against Zhiatain???

After killing Teq and talking to Rox, she says that she will wait for the “next Tequatl”.

Like the Claw of Jormag, there must be multiple undead dragons, and “Tequatl” must be a title. It is the only way for it to make sense.

Or maybe by “next Tequatl”, Rox meant “next challenge”…

I read “twerking”… /facepalm

Even though I like how the fight is right now (yeah, with the timer and everything), I am aware that my server beats him all the time and that my opinion is obviously biased.

I won’t be surprised if the fight is nerfed after this part of the living story is over. Really, I think it is just a matter of time until it happens.

Meanwhile, you guys are going to need organization and people that are willing to listen to the people that know what to do.

That happened to other chapters of the LS, too. I think it goes away when you finish doing everything related to the new chapter. It didn’t happen to the Queen’s Jubilee, though. I’m confused.

eisberg.2379:

Raven Paradox.1860:

Why the hell do people hate Trahearne so much? I haven’t seen him in over a year…

This, I literally do not understand the hate for him /shrug

People hate him because they think he “stole their credit”. Minor NPCs always thank Trahearne for stuff that you did while he was dead or telling you what to do (Claw Island).

For me, it doesn’t matter. Trahearne, the truly important character, always thank me and makes sure that I know that he cares about me and that he wouldn’t get anything done if it wasn’t for me. When one of the most important characters of the whole game thanks you all the time and likes you so much, why should you care for what nameless background NPCs think?

I really hope that this never happens. Trahearne likes the player character too much, I would feel horrible if I had to kill him. Be killed by your best friend, the person that you trust the most, the one that picked you up when you fell and pushed you forward when you were not certain if you could keep going on? I wouldn’t ever want that for him.

I know, a lot of people hate Trahearne. I’m not a huge fan of him because I really hate his voice acting, but still, if that ever happened, I would completely skip that. I refuse to kill Trahearne.