Guild Wars 2

I´m with OP.
I´m a boy and ´cotting it too.

And the girls don´t get to ´cott it, they have cooties anyways.

Seriously though.
After watching videos of the same area over and over again, I´m almost burned out on it already.
Same for the new borderlands map. Just saw the presentation and that´s it, no more spoilerz for me.

Yeah more 100% 24h MF boosters would be nice, or a free Lionchest key for every character!
Anything but a silly gun or lvl20 scroll to take up yet another inventory slot.

Keep your grubby paws of my Point Blank!
!http://i.imgur.com/TfIBpBi.jpg!

Has Engineer been fixed that good since I left?
It was usually the main topic in these threads back then.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

HawkMeister.4758:

If you want your precious leader boards, then go do PvP like the real men!

Like real men? I’m pretty sure that’s not possible for half the population without major surgery … ^^

:D

Already in game, it´s called EVENTS!

If you want your precious leader boards, then go do PvP like the real men!

Khandarus.2738:

I see a lot of people in this thread that have some required lore reading to do.

A lot of people in here including the kittenheaded OP are too lazy to read the 2nd post perfectly explaining to OP why.
What makes you think they will actually read lore.

NO because JRR Tolkien is long dead and LOTRO is a different game.
This is a RIP thread, dummy.
A whole different beast than the standard kitten measuring contest.

Yeah, mastery system is a bit fuzzy for me too.
Also dimly remember the thing about regional masteries. So HoT specific and “the others” mainly about precursor creation masteries or something.

Dito with the pricing, if it´s above 30€ I´ll pass and wait for the Christmas sale.
Frikken “Skyrim Online” is going F2P this month Anet, hope you haven´t forgotten that.

He is to Fantasy what Douglas Adams is to SciFi.

This is a MMO with a FANTASY theme, he should get an effin plaque in game.
Or at least his commemorative threads left in peace and open.

RIP Terry

The turtle moves.

Hearts are bog standard “kill 10 rats” quests, only with a fuzzy slider instead of a plain and simple number to fill up.

And recently I revisited Snowden Drifts and had similar problems there that seem to have gotten worse during my hiatus.
Or I simply forgot how bad it was.

Uhm no.
If you never even reached 80, didn´t even understand the difference between the standard leveling with hearts and actually experiencing the world by finding EVENTS and were already bored, this game still isn´t for you.

And to be honest they pretty much drove it to a stand still throughout these years.

Oh and the personal story is also pretty much broken after the lvl 60 claw island quest, but the main story head honcho has recently at least acknowledged this and a fix can only be weeks away.

What you actually missed was something that superemely annoyed me but may have been right up your ally.
The Living Story.
Google it or search for vids on the UTub. It´s over/on hiatus right now and was the main reason we´re all waiting for an expansion instead of having one for months.

AARGH!
Still no life signs from the crew patching up the broken personal story.

Jerus.4350:

Csele.1647:

I hope they give up with the living story.. and make something fun to PLAY , cause there are a lot of series and movies we can watch if we wanted to read or see storys

That’s the thing, the only problem with living story is that it was very dumbed down and one dimentional.

There’s no reason it shoulnd’t have PVP addition aspects, or WvW, or Fractal/dungeon (which it did have first season).

Yes there is a reason.
Man power and time to code, play test, debug, play test while debugging until it´s gorram almost ready, but hellooo deadline. Guess it´s ready.

The teams that were occupied during the whole LS could´ve comfortably cranked out a whole finely fleshed out expansion that would´ve told a perfectly interesting storyline.
JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL GAME DOES.

Or worked on the China launch, or really revamped PvP, or frikken cured cancer for all we know.

You people defending Living Story have bought the cool aid, plain and simple.

The Megaserver structure cunningly disguised how many people like me simple left the game for more interesting game play.

Bottom line is, the only thing this game has to show for after 3(?) years is two/threeish new maps, some ruins and 3 new fractals that the community had to fight tooth and claw to get added instead of outright deleted again like the rest of the content.

BY NOW we should already have the 2nd expansion, not waiting for the first probably till summer at the earliest.

I wish the guy luck but if he was the main inventor and driving force behind LS then good riddance.

AHA, I knew it wasn´t just a fluke.
Same experience as OP for me too. Though will try again during the EU evenings.
But as others already said, “WASTES” do not make for happy game experience.

Before leaving more then a year back I made a kitteny remark that the only way they could make a worse looking high level area than Orr would be something sandy.
..
!http://i.imgur.com/SLXePBI.webm!

I´ve played since launch for about a year until I simply couldn´t bear the simplistic Zerg fest gameplay anymore, that the broken living world idea basically solidified.

This expansion hype has brought me back again, though much too soon it seems.

Otherwise OP is right.
There´s so much still left to do, even for me, that I´ve found myself logging in daily again.
Just to get the kitten 5000 achievement chest and finally see the dungeons I left out due to the living world grinding pressure.

SkyShroud.2865:

adding support to new api doesnt mean u are removing dx9 completely

In praxis it usually does though.

And again Mico$oft can bait however much they want, but especially after the Snowden leaks people (especially outside of the US) have simply become fed up with the constant backdoor burglarizing by M$ and other software houses.

If anything then I´m voting for a Linux API, but from what I hear the AMD marketing talk is again mightier than the reality.

Thanks for reminding me how horrible the first Sylvari designs were.
Humans with leafy skin diseases. O_o

So glad they got it right, but now I don´t trust even my own Saladheads anymore due to the Mordy business.
!http://i.imgur.com/8vyiDPH.gif!

I get what OP complains about.

And frankly he´s right, the PvP guys get rewards for actually gaming the way they like, while us PvE people are gated into a VERY narrow game play window.

Granted, some of the PvE dailies are actually a good idea to breathe a bit of life into certain maps like the champion and event completer.
Others are simply time wasters like the low level fractals or fractals in general.

This current system is just too simplistic and needs to be diversified again. Keep the working ones and improve the broken ones like fractals or the gather types.

Sad to say but Blude is right on “the money”.
I´ve come back after almost 2 years and they still haven´t fixed the “glued on boobs” bug the character model I chose exhibits with certain outfits.

An actual slider is simply utopic.

ANSWER: NO.
REASON: China.

If you Microsoft fanboys can sponsor millions of PC upgrades so that people (most of Asia, India & Africa) who run a perfectly fine OS like WinXP get to “enjoy” the latest Micro$oft cash cow OS, THEN you will get to see GW2 in your latest and greatest “approved by Bill Gate´s bank account” gfx API.

So glad I already finished the story on one, have two others waiting before the claw island battle.
All started from way before these silly storyline shenanigans began.

So I should be safe with finishing claw island on all my characters and especially getting the 10 achievement points for the various racial lvl30 quests?

Drow.2081:

I Am Groot

…………….

http://i.imgur.com/YRqlazx.webm

DPS meters are horrible and the people who use them should feel bad.

It adds absolutely NOTHING valuable to the actual game experience, but instead changes the gamer to a kittened button pushing monkey that has to slavishly chase the most Über build of the month and grinding for the best DPS gear.

We already have too much of this stupid gameplay-type in the game. Actually enabling it with legal in-game aps would kill the game.

Tumult.2578:

When I see double fractal dailies, I stop spending money on the game.
That will always be my response.

THIS!

Stop slotting those two together or get rid of one and indeed bring back the jumping daily.
Or add another boss, maybe in Orr.
The fractal daily is already high level only, but most people just don´t have the time for a whole kitten fractal run.
Or the will to put up with a pug in those things.

Today is one of those double fractal days and I simply take the day of from the game.

Just in case Op was actually asking, cultural armor is only allowed to its own race.

And in general a stinking bag of fleas couldn´t possibly fit properly into our classy armors anyways.

Honestly, as far as F2P monetization goes this is FAR from the worst out there.

YES it is clearly not enough out of the box.
And YES even with a personal Guild it is a chore.

I bought a couple of extra char-slots so I can have an alt of each profession and a 2nd banktab.
I´m using all the alts as mules mainly for accumulating sets of 4 to gamble away at the Mystic Toilet. So far I haven´t upgraded any personal bag slots but the downtime of switching between alts is getting tedious.

I´m not happy with the bankspace, but I´m aware that good part of my problem is how I choose to handle the space. Will probably end up buying a gemcard soon just for this upgrade, or stop feeding the slotmachine.

And BTW for my “Personal Guild” I maybe spent half a gold at the most, back then I could still make one for free.
Just leveling a character(or more) to 80 and working through the personal story will earn you free letters of recommendation that are perfectly spent on your own guild.

I have yet to see this cooperation happen.

My experience has been that for solo adventurers this map seem impossible and even normal party sizes that could manage Orr somewhat consistently are simply eradicated.

Thanks for the guide, gona study this some more.
So far though this seems basically like a constant playground for “The Zerg”.
The gameplay style which was the reason for me leaving.

So I´m a returning player, been with the game from the start and have had enough after the Zergfest started in earnest during the clockwork times at about the end of 2013.

Now I come back and find a region that is indeed more annoying than Orr ever was, even during the Undead Ping-Pong times.

Still haven´t managed to get more than the starting point unlocked. Usually there were around 5-10 people around me and the failing was consistent.
Is THIS what the expansion is supposed to look like?
Only with gliding?

Are you having a laugh ANet or have I missed the Don´t Panic Mass-Zerg guide to the Silver Waste?
For now this is indeed a waste for me. :/

BentoDetective.6491:

As for the trait system, whatever changes Anet has concocted it’ll definitely *not be locked behind the xpac. Think logically, the trait system is a component of the core game. The xpac is meant to expand the game, not lock what the game currently has to offer.*

I’d be more concern about the change to the skill points/masteries issue. We no longer earn skill points at 80 but instead earn mastery points. Skill points would then be earned in more areas of the game.

This. CHILLAX PEEPS!
Although I´m confused how you´ve come to the conclusion post 80 skill point earning will be gone.
I´ve seen nothing alluding to this.

Makes no sense either unless they want to completely abolish XP earning after max level.
Surely that won´t happen, right?

OMG!
THIS is what I come back to after I pulled the chord on the clockwork Zerg fests of 2013?

So the grand plan to revive the deserted old maps was to force underdeveloped people into certain possibly higher level events?

Did I get this right?

I´m almost regretting now that I beat my barely leveled pal back into the game with me.
What I read here and the cursory glance around the Wiki will not make him a happy camper.
I have to see it for myself, but making leveling tedious is NOT how you generate happy customers.

I just recently deleted the game outright from my SSD, didn´t even bother to move it to my HD. As once you´ve ran it from an SSD, it´s pretty much unplayable from HD anyway.

I will probably come back when ANet is back in delivering on their promises instead of drowning in their own ambitious yet empty projects.

Releasing constant Zerg& Grindfests while masking it thinly in a disjointed story just doesn´t cut it for the longterm.
Glad ANet finally noticed this, maybe even not too late.

I am simply amazed at your determined will to ignore lessons from beta and just common sense.
Yes, this is another SoS “whine”. Standing still to run faster …

This balancing patch had me more excited for the game than the last 23334 living stories and almost got me to log in again. Almost.

Roy Cronacher.1576:

• How is the change to symbol of Swiftness any good? So many classes move much faster then Guardians. If you want to nerf this, give us an Adept trait, that gives us flat 25% movement spead, like Warriors have it.

In many cases the symbol of swiftness change is actually a buff and not a nerf. Currently it will only apply the initial large portion of swiftness if the target does not currently have any swiftness on them. If they have swiftness on them or after that first pulse it will then add 1 second of swiftness per pulse. This is very awkward and clunky.

The change makes the spell apply a consistent 4 seconds of swiftness per pulse without the strange hidden mechanic. Basically. if you already have swiftness on the people which you using the symbol on or if you take the time to stand in the spell for the full duration then it will just be a buff. =)

Wrong.
NOBODY takes the time to stand around in a swiftness symbol!
The whole point of the kitten thing is to run through it.
Please just leave the symbol alone, it works perfectly as it is right now.

To get a permanent effect it locks any Guardian into a (Staff)2-hand weapon/Boon build. The price we paid to be even remotely able to keep up on roams .
I also routinely casted it infront of my posse so it boosted them too!

This nerf will destroy the main way for Guardians to have fun actually exploring your world on foot, instead of gating from one Champion Zerg to the next.

If I actually would cast this new symbol on roams, then pretty much everybody else that had happened to run through a Mesmer´s swiftness boost earlier will just run away even faster from me.

Simply unacceptable, would be my comment.
And if I´d still play the game I´d actually be outraged, oh well.

Just came back after quitting to slightly update this:

Please check all that apply.

You are:

[ ] Married
[ ] Have Girlfriend
[ ] Employed
[ ] Have Pets
[ ] Have Children
[x] Are an Adult
[x] Have a Life
[ ] Have no Manual Dexterity

You Think Living World is too:

[ ] Hard
[x] Time Consuming
[x] Temporary FLUFF
[x] Full of Jumping Puzzles

You :

[x] Quit
[ ] Uninstall
[ ] Feed Colins’ Dog Zhaitaffy so he farts up his place
[x ] ARE NOT Upset anymore
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That´s right, I quit a while back after my first and only Aetherblades invasion.
Disgustedly suffering through as much of the stupid zergfest that I was able to stomach.

Now my frustrations are at a minimum and I even like Colin´s dog(more).
I still check back from time to time, but see only slight change to the underlying concept of living world and its core problem.
Zerg and more grind.

Sure, permanent upgrades to Tequila(& others) are now in and Twilight will loose the (supposedly)worst path. But somehow it´s not nearly enough to lure me back in.
It´s still mainly fluff temporary content, as this new path will surely go away too when the living story line moves awkwardly on.

So Anet, you decided to make your weakest gameplay, Tha Zerg the new permanent content – seriously?
ATM I´m so disgusted with this “new” content that I´ve decided to take a break after one year of loyally logging in to this game.

Maybe I´ll be back..
Edit:I liked the original thread title “Zerg Wars 2” better, perfectly fitting for what this game has become.

Yeah, Guardian. No other choice really.
If you want a cool Mesmer GS then get the Zephyr.
It barely makes sense as an actual melee weapon, but it´s perfect as the mesmer´s floaty-shooty thingy.

I´m just grateful it won´t clutter up my bank with yet another unused memento.

No.
I was actually slightly amused how everybody and their hamster had that clutter turned on when it was launched.
Lately sanity has thankfully overtaken vanity a bit.

I also don´t see an explosion or anything remotely resembling a fight there.
Seems more like just some artsy concepty thing. Though I like it.

That said, having high hopes for the Battle of DR. Especially with culling removed.

The best part of the PvE culling introduction is that that team can finally start working on the performance of the client proper.

It´s simply inconceivable how CPU bottlenecked this client is. The only reason nobody in the Tech support board is really whining about it anymore is because they either upgraded to Intel or simply quit.

OMG another Woody lore-nerd extravaganza!
Onwards!
*popcorn

Edit: Wow, now I actually am glad I voted for Kiel.
What a delicious game of intrigue this could turn into.

About everything else has priority to race specific armor. If there´s new armor in the pipe it´s going to be all-races armor.
See this recent interview.

Ok, I really don´t want to start discussing the technological prowess of all those MMOs , or your erroneous definition of an instance.
It´s totally off topic too btw.

But using sirendor´s above fanfic as an example, this game is miles away from such an dynamic and actually living world.
This would in fact require either a real world simulation with a proper self-determined AI like EQNext seems to head for.
Or a Sandbox.

ANet´s scripted ever repeating puppet show just can´t deliver this and so will always fall short of such a lofty goal.

Numpties, you don´t want just one puny fractal!

Ask for a whole Dungeon or rather a series of 4 consecutive Fractals!
A puny lone Fractal can´t help but disappoint this hysteric nostalgic fervor you guys have developed.

I haven´t bothered to log in the last days except for fusing quartz.
I´ll see later if our guild mission can start this time, the last got canceled because nobody is logging on.

I think the living story is working, it´s making me live outside of Tyria.
What a bother.

ANet can.

It´s amazing.

gurugeorge.9857:

I don’t disagree with what you’re saying. A WvWvW sandbox within the themepark? Sign me up!

There’s a bit of a problem with comparisons with EVE though. CCP happened to be interested in making a space game, and a space game just happens to be much easier to make into a sandbox than, say, a fantasy game like this. I mean, basically, EVE is one of the most heavily instanced MMOs there is (the “boxes”) and all that vast space is totally illusory – they didn’t have to actually make much in the way of assets to realize the illusion apart from a few rocks and space stations.

Not sure why you say heavily instanced as pretty much nothing is really instanced in EVE, it´s the only single shard MMO I know of .
Even the NPC missions that do create what could loosely be called “an instance” can be broken into at any time.
If you mean that each solar system is a singular instance, then this isn´t comparable to standard MMO instances either, as these solar system “maps” are the same for everybody to hang out in.

This trick BTW is the one ANet could´ve used for WvW too.
Instead of giving us 3 tiny separated maps with “static destructibles”(thus negating the very concept), they should´ve made about 30 interconnected maps with destructible player created keeps/towers thus making these “islands in the mists” actually conquerable.
But that would´ve meant a working guild & alliance system and a proper configurable chat, voice-chat even.
Creating 6 Festivals in a year was clearly a bigger priority.

gurugeorge.9857:

I mean, sandboxes, yeah, they have some plus points, but let’s face it, the quality of the “stories” made by the players in EVE Online isn’t terribly entertaining to anyone but the participants themselves, and the big news that bleeds through to the media are usually about “wow, look, scamming in a game lol”. Stories written by people who are good at writing stories are generally more interesting than random kitten that people do to each other.

You´re applying two different meanings to the same expression.

Stories in a Theme Park like GW2 are actually that. A tale told by (more of less) professional writers that is awesome when you first play it.
On the 14th time .. not so much.
Or does anybody still listen to the NPCs in the Dungeon they´re currently grinding?
That´s why the expression “Theme Park” was coined.

Sandboxes have grind too. In the case of EVE, friggen humorously massive huge grind.

The major difference is that the grind itself becomes the story, as in YOUR ACTIONS, the very game-play you´re engaged in becomes actually the tale.

Do I want to play it safe and stay in policed space but only do average profit or take a risk and venture out into more profitable low security space? Lawless even? Now I need to scout the systems ahead, a friend would be handy right now. Or a 2nd account( DING +profit for CCP). ETC…
This is called emergent gameplay and not a single Dev had to get payed to sit down and script any of it.

The only thing barely approaching this in GW2 is WvWvW.
But it actually fails due to the incredibly stale permanence in the pitiful number of unconnected maps. Although the numbers seemingly tell a different tale.
But that is simply because the overwhelming majority of players actually have no idea what a true sandbox feels like. They only notice that after the 50th Zerg up and down the same hills “something isn´t fresh” anymore.

ANet could actually save WvW and make it a true LIVING Sandbox. But I´m afraid they neither have the balls nor the vision for it.

And here again from Colin more recently .
It´s pretty much the last paragraph.

Sorry, He didn´t mention player housing specifically.
My personal guild is kinda a player housing stand in for me, so I often mash those two together in my head.