Guild Wars 2

Yasha.5963:

hackks.3687:

Traps need a tell. Period.

They should also need to be triggered before they can begin to recharge, and not as soon as they’re laid. You know… like how every other skill works.

But that would mean no reliable stun break for DH!!

So… like a trapper ranger?

It’s kind of bullkitten they removed the ranger ability to use ground targeted traps because it didn’t thematically fit traps, but it’s okay for a DH to teleport to you and bomb you with insta cast traps.

coglin.1867:

Those same valleys and paths make for superb chke points to fight large forces. I see the new maps as much better at funneling players together for good fights.

That doesn’t make a good fight, it just reinforces the god awful pirate ship meta.

Xillllix.3485:

2- waypoints in towers and keeps as soon as you capture them

How would that help anything? The WP change is one of the biggest problems with the new system.

People (roamers especially) would work their butts off to bust WP’ed keeps, and spend hours preventing things from getting WP’s. It’s no longer worth the effort it takes to bust a defended T3 keep since they will get their wp back as soon as they flip it.

The side keeps should get their wp’s back but they should only get them at T3, and upgrades need to be manually started and dependent on supply. The only thing they should have changed about upgrades was the gold cost should have been changed to badges or karma.

As someone that likes to solo roam I have found the new maps to be awful.
I’ve actually found the camps easier to take without having to deal with scout blind spam, but I can’t personally upgrade camps or keep them drained. Hell I can’t even +5 a camp because I apparently need to PvE to have WvW upgrades…..

Towers are also easier to solo since the lords room only contains 1 npc, but it is tedious as kitten to take one. G-catas now cost 50 supply and I can only carry 15 since they stole my +5, which leads to me playing a running simulator. Then I get to spend about half an hour cata’ing a wall that fortified without any player interaction.

The problem is there is no real point in taking a tower anymore. Towers used to offer a strategic advantage. If the defending group was camping a keeps walls instead of jumping down to fight, I could set up defensive siege and treb a keep to make them come to me. Now the towers are just pointless. I am much better off flipping the camps instead of spending the 30+ minutes it takes to flip a fully upgraded tower.

The places I was most likely to find fights are dead. No one cares about camps since supply is no longer a requirement for upgrades. I can’t fight anywhere near a keep because ridiculous PvE mechanics interfere with the fights, it doesn’t matter if it’s in my favor or theirs. It’ not fun to fight when 1 of us is getting stealthed or burning constantly.

Even taking a keep feels pointless now since only 1 keep gets a WP and it gets it as soon as it turns over. Before the change the fights over the keeps were epic, as a roamer I would spend hours prepping and draining keeps, occasionally I’d ninja them but usually I’d have to call in reinforcements and we could end up in these big hour+ long brawls. People don’t bother to defend anymore since no work goes into upgrading them and they aren’t defending WP’s they spent hours building. They just let us flip them and then back cap it after we leave.

On the flip side if something is being decently defended no one makes the effort to bust a T3 structure since we aren’t taking WP’s or busting something they put hours of work into.

The terrain is annoying to navigate, I don’t mean trying to learn the shortcuts, I’m talking about how they stuck barricades in the way, that zergs brush aside in seconds, but roamers have to take a huge detour to go around because they take too long to solo, and the other PvE gimicks like the walls that continuously pop up in front of you near the earth keep.

Oh and the dino skyhammer event was just a laughably bad idea. It clearly favors the stronger server, making it easier to k-train. I decided to give it a try solo and found that the amount of gears doesn’t scale down for the amount of people doing the event. I would have to spend at least 30 minutes PvE’ing dinos to finish it.

I will say the dino event is one of the few times I ran into enemies but the mechanics of it discourage fighting. If I kill a dino and pick up a gear I lose my weapon skills. I had 2 people show up when I had a dino at about 10%, I had to kill the dino so I wasn’t fighting 2 players and the npc at the same time, and by the time I finished killing the players the gear had already despawned. After that I had to leave the area because they came back with 5 more players.

And please don’t tell me that the new shrines are perfect for roamers. That is just a PvE event that needs to be done before a zerg hits a keep. It doesn’t take away from PPT, and it doesn’t take away from (now meaningless) supply. If you aren’t planning to hit a keep there is little reason to do it.

Tldr: WvW didn’t become “harder”, it became more tedious and soulless now that everything is on auto pilot.

Maybe they should just give siegerazor his own npc zerg and let him k-train the map. There will always be a tag up and action on the maps…. real WvW players not necessary.

msalakka.4653:

It’ll probably take 8 months to nerf since it isn’t Mesmer, Ranger, or Thief.

Funny thing is rangers were already nerfed (trapper rune nerf) because of DH. When in doubt, nerf rangers.

They will have to rework the bl maps but it would be a definite improvement on what we have now.

D/D ele will win because if it starts to look like druid might be able to compete with them, an anet dev will step in and nerf the druid.

Try holding control and right clicking it

Lévis.5489:

Anet will never do it.Pet and minions AI is using the same AI file than PVE mobs. And Anet said a long time ago that if they want to change anything for pets, that would break their code.

That’s a bullkitten cop out. They also said it was impossible to fix culling in WvW. All that means is it would require more effort than what they want to put into it.

The AI isn’t stopping them from reworking the pet control bar so that we have access to more of the pet skills. The AI doesn’t prevent them from increasing the pets cleave range so they can hit moving targets, or reworking their skill animations to allow their attacks to land.

Hell if a mesmer moa’s our pet it will suddenly be able to land attacks… thy could use that friggin code.

So stop parroting their broken excuses, as long as people accept those as reality they will never make the effort to fix our pets.

Back to the top. Pets need a rework. It’s kittening disgusting that this has been ignored for so long

I don’t understand why you are all arguing with each other when we know what the solution is. It’s the same one that has been brought up repeatedly for years.

Anet needs to rework pet controls so we have access to their other skills

This is something that needs to kittening happen now. The ranger has been in a bad spot for years but the past couple of months with the half finished elite spec and the constant nerfs have been brutal. Stop coming up with excuses like you are too busy, or it would be too complicated for rangers. You will always be too busy if you don’t make it a priority, and after 3+ years it kittening needs to be a priority.

This is our class mechanic, if every time an ele tried swapping attunements it delayed for 3 seconds and then picked an attunement at random would you leave that broken for 3 years?
If every warrior burst skill rooted them in place so they missed a moving target would you leave that alone for 3 years?
Why the hell is it okay to leave rangers broken this long?

It’s kind of like this…
They give you a delicious looking steak, let you smell it, maybe even have a bite.
Then some kitten at the table next to you starts screaming that it’s not fair that you get a steak and they don’t, even though they ordered ribs, so anet takes the steak and throws it in the trash.

When you try and ask why your steak got thrown in the trash they ignore you.
You end up getting kittened and demanding a new steak and when you cause a big enough scene they realize they need to do something to avoid bad pr.

At this point they will either give you a cheeseburger (that will likely be thrown away) or dig your steak out of the trash.
It’ll be dirty, it might be missing chunks where the rats got at it….. but hey, you got your steak back.

I’d like to give you some advice but every build I regularly run has received multiple nerfs lately. At this point I’m pretty sure I kittened off some dev and they are systematically screwing with me.

Lol is this really a nerf rapid fire thread?
What year is it!?

This would be hilarious if the situation wasn’t so depressing.

Gabriell.4856:

Scrimschaw.5784:

Gabriell.4856:

How come the ranger don’t have reduced stats?

We do. Our weapon damage is lower than other classes.

I really don’t see it on LB and GS. Actually, I don’t see it on any of their weapons.

How come conditions applied by ranger hit for the same amount as other classes?

Because until a couple weeks ago pets had 0 base condi damage, so any condi’s they put on you ticked for minimal damage.

tluv.5821:

GROMIT.7829:

Just because i don’t own HoTs I am unable to pruchase “Shield Generators” in WvW or use them. As i only play WvW I’m not paying 30+ pounds to use 1 siege item.

This is the tip of the pay2win wedge that will break WvW ladies and gentlemen.

I don’t see how that is p2w. p2w is saying the game is free, and you MUST purchase items in order to really advance. gw2 has never, and will never be that way. Saying that is so, is an insult to their company, as they have CLEARLY stated that will NEVER be their intention

Except now the game is free and most of the new specs are a lot stronger than the base class. HoT also brought new weapons and armor stat combos that I’m pretty sure you can’t get unless you pay them for the expansion.

MAN.9046:

deleting stuff that summons AI? does this mean mesmers/rangers get deleted?

They have been deleting ranger 1 trait/skill at a time for years….

Kreed.2768:

People just hate rangers. It’s been that way for a long time and the minute they get something good there’s cries of outrage and calls for nerfs. I mean, just look at this section. First we get qq about lingering light, that got nerfed, and now there’s qq about ancient seeds.

If you are talking about just the in the past week you still missed some. Ignoring all the nerfs between the one BWE rangers got and release, they have also taken a couple pet nerfs, a nerf to trapper runes (because of thief and DH), removal of minstrel amulet, and I’m sure there are others.
That’s just the past week…. since launch rangers have been ignored or kitten on. If using ancient seeds in a cc build even starts to look like it might be a viable option, the trait will be nerfed into uselessness in a matter of days.

Glad they took the time to let things play out so they could make an informed decision…..
/s

……. You’re joking right? Please tell me you aren’t actually complaining about having to click a button….

Blackarps.1974:

I love that each keep has its own flavor and the introduction of shrines makes it kind of more fun for roamers.

I’m guessing you don’t actually roam if you think that roamers find killing those pointless PvE mobs to be fun.

Well it’s been about 5 minutes since the last ranger nerf, I suppose it is about time to nerf rangers again.

oshilator.4681:

Ancient Seeds is next.

Then Grace of the Land.

Just wait….

The PvP complaints are already rolling in https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Something-needs-to-be-done-with-Ancient-Seeds

incoming nerf in 3… 2…

Rangers being ignored? Have you missed the multiple nerfs the class has received lately? I wish they would go back to ignoring us.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

I think some people missed your sarcasm there, Jim.

You can really tell who reads the post and who just reads the title before posting.

That’s a good point.
But condi’s on pets needs a fix in general, we shouldn’t have to cripple our party support to have a way to clear condi’s off the pet .
The damage reduction mechanic should be added to PvP and WvW, and just have the % adjusted for PvP.
It should also be made baseline that anytime we have a condi removed our pets do as well.

I use guard all the time in WvW for the low cooldown condi cleanse/perma swiftness. I only swap it out if I run across a mesmer or a condi thief. It’s also a fantastic skill for solo flipping objectives since it provides your pets with protection/regen and if they are really in danger you can just stealth them until your pet swap or heal is ready.

I think if they would extend the other boon copies you get from WHaO to 5 seconds “Guard” would become a strong skill in all game modes.

Search and rescue needs it’s cooldown drastically reduced and it should have a secondary “Search and Destroy” function for sending your pet to finish downed players.

Protect me needs a complete change in my opinion. I would love something like “Protect Us” that grants 5 stacks of stability and resistance for 5 seconds to up to 5 people. Keep the stun break and lower the cooldown to 40 seconds.

Instant stab and more party support is something rangers can use in all game modes.

Last but not least they need to fix rangers shouts so they clear condi’s off your allies when using trooper runes. The fact that they can insta nerf things right and left but they still haven’t bothered to fix something as simple as this is just pathetic.

Going to need a lot more info to go on than that. What did you hit him with, what are you running, what were his utilities, was he blocking or avoiding some of your damage, etc.?
I typically run marauder and have had countless fights where I take less than 20% damage because I manage my cooldowns and save my dodges/evades for the hard hitting skills.

Kanebrake.6192:

I wouldn’t hold my breath. Returning the old BL’s would be admitting a mistake and I doubt very much anet is going to admit they made a mistake.

They could save face by putting the new map on a rotation with EB. All it would take to make it work there would be a few tweaks to the design and removing or at least toning down some of the gimmicks.

There is a lot I hate about the new map but the biggest problem is the population can’t support multiple copies.

Bridger.9245:

WvW was lackluster and broken in a lot of ways. I’ve been waiting for them to fix it for 3 years. Now they’ve finally fixed it and the people who got used to the old way are upset that they are no longer super knowledgeable about it. It happens in every major change to every game.

I couldn’t be happier with the changes so far. They are what convinced me to buy the expansion in the first place.

Gr8 b8 m8

vespers.1759:

I see what you did there!

It is completely OP that ranger pets passively use their hard hitting skills without the rangers having to do anything.

Rangers pet controls should be nerfed so that their F1 toggles between attack and return to me. When a ranger selects a target “attack” becomes active, after pressing it “return to me” takes its place. If a ranger selects a new target it changes back to “attack”.

The ranger should now be forced to slot one of his other pet skills in the F3 slot. For example his bird could use quickening screech, pigs could use brutal charge, or the drake could use tail swipe.

No more easy mode passive play for those lazy rangers, make them actively choose when to use their pet skills.

I know it’s sunday so you can’t make this ranger nerf happen as quickly as usual but I’m sure you can get this knocked out by tuesday.

Okay I’m going to have to call bullkitten on the “people are jut more interested in the expansion content” theory. The only thing I do in the game is WvW and PvP, I have no interest in the new PvE content, and I’m not on the new bl because it sucks kitten .

Yesterday I logged onto my accounts to get the daily reward and logged back off. I couldn’t even find the motivation to log on for reset because the idea of running around that crappy PvE map was revolting. The majority of my friends and guildies are doing the same. We might get a few PvP matches done and just call it a night because they have successfully sucked the fun out of our favorite game mode.

/broken thread repair in progress

Lazze.9870:

Toolbox.9375:

I’m half-wondering if some developer at ArenaNet was just giggling with a coworker going “wanna watch the Ranger players flip their lids? Watch this”.

Well, it’s either that, or they are clueless about their own game’s mechanics.

Why not both?

Yeah, you really need to put something in the title like “NERF PETS!!!!” to get there attention and then trick them into fixing them.

Try saying something like, “It’s totally OP that rangers pets use their hard hitting skill passively. You should nerf those skills so they are now assigned to the rangers f3 button and he is forced to manually use it.”

For an immediate response make sure to post it in the PvP forum. Rangers nerfs that are requested there usually occur in less than 48 hours.

Sviel.7493:

They slow people down and and thus make it harder to havoc the northern part of the map when neither northern tower is held. Thus, attacks are funneled to the northern towers.

Basically, it provides an incentive to control a structure in order to traverse the map more quickly while hindering your opponents. The same design philosophy can be seen with team specific elevators.

Unless you have a zerg, in which case you roll right through them…..

Just another way they are promoting k trains and kittenting on roamers

oshilator.4681:

But calling the dev team stupid won’t get us anywhere.

(Not like it matters though, they’re not reading any of this.)

I mean…. if it walks like a duck…

Tyler Bearce.3427:

Yeah, it’s a bug. Working on a fix for it.

That’s good to hear, I knew that couldn’t really be the new WvW map. I’m sure the PvE players will enjoy it. I imagine it will be placed somewhere next to silverwastes?

Anyway I am really looking forward to having the WvW borderlands back, next time save the practical jokes for april fools day.

Anet always focusing on the important issues… meanwhile druid is still broken as kitten and the ranger buglist keeps on growing.

incoming nerf in 3… 2….

Electro.4173:

From the patch notes last night…

•Renamed the new minor, major, and superior Sigils of Speed, crafted by scribes, to Sigils of Agility.

Might be giving these a try myself at some point. I need more Fortifying Bond! Though I kind of like my current Sigil of Frailty for the extra vuln which also helps my pet, and 3 seconds of quickness isn’t going to be THAT impressive on pets.

It’s actually amazingly good for pets. They land their hits and you can get off nearly instant interrupts with knockdowns, taunt, and fear

FeelsAlright.5860:

Inflames.8026:

Revenants, scrappers and reapers top 3. Followed by guardian, mesmer, warrior, ele, thief and at the bottom you have the ranger. With the same broken core mechanics.
A gutted elite spec that brings almost nothing. We got some cool pets tho. Guess its too strong when the pet actually does some damage.

The only elite spec that brings nothing is daredevil. 1 additional dodge.

I’ll take the additional dodge over the cele form that you can’t use.

grifflyman.8102:

What I learned about Guild Wars 2 today: People will complain about anything they can.

The new WvW map is what people have been asking for, the game play just needs to adjust to it. 40 man zergs were the meta, and the new map will help break up the zerg mentality.

Solo roamers have plenty to do, like picking off players trying to get to the main tag, or capping various ruins around the map. There are a number of places roamers will really shine, line picking off energy cells as solo players try to turn them in.

So PvE or try to catch a player that isn’t massively buffed by some gimmick mechanic like the one that gives perma stealth, also hope you find the player somewhere that isn’t next to one of those gates that cuts you off from the center of the map, or next to a tower/keep for them to run in.

StickerHappy.8052:

people complaining about 1 pet? LOL

Time to get good in the game.. I mean get good for real this time..

You whine about 1 pet, how bout scrappers, revenants, chrono? those classes need tweaking a lot more than 1 pet.

Forum people are always like a joke..

Right? When in doubt nerf rangers.

I mean… druid doesn’t even work and there is still a nerf ranger thread…..

Sad part is Anet will probably jump on this without fixing any of the hundred something problems the class has right now.

Now get rid of spirit watch

Sviel.7493:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Sviel.7493:

As a scout/roamer, I would orbit Hills or Bay and run upgrades there. I’d retake/defend camps and escort Dolyaks while also repairing and building siege. If we lost the keep I was scouting, I’d usually switch to yak sniping to ensure the enemy couldn’t upgrade. When I got a chance, I’d do as much damage to w/e wall I could get at. Usually, I was alone for this, but sometimes I had support from other scouts/roamers.
.

See, this is what’s missing.
Supply camps and dolyaks were the life blood of keeps and the majority of roaming fights revolved around controlling them.

Now they no longer matter. Structures will be fully upgraded unless they are constantly being flipped (not attacked to drain supply but fully flipped).

As I stated later on in that post, yaks have become more important to me. It’s true that objectives will eventually upgrade on their own, but holding them long enough for that to happen is much, much easier with a steady supply of yak love. Combined with the kit that lets me speed boost them (something I couldn’t do well on my necro/thief), I’m spending a lot more time with my now furless friends.

The initial upgrade timer that puts cannons/oils up is like 30 minutes, no? The next is a couple of hours. Nothing sits uncontested that long in T2 unless you’re the blob server that has more people than the other two combined.

My experience so far has been if I cut off yaks and camps they would just get the camp on the other side and wait until I leave to cap the one I was holding.

Even the camp by spawn is far enough away that I can’t wp and run to it before it gets flipped.

The next weapon needs to be a main hand melee weapon to settle the sword argument. I would prefer a dagger.

emendez.3705:

mulzi.8273:

Mishi.7058:

bLind.6278:

They really want every single aspect of this game to be a ridiculous grind, it seems. Didn’t realize this was a Korean MMORPG.

Actually I think by them nerfing EOTM rewards it puts WvW more “on par” with rewards then how it was prior HoT patch.

Maybe they didn’t want everyone using EOTM as a train for badges, wxp, exp, badges, karma, and loot, instead of playing wvw completely.

Heaven forbid they raise the WvW rewards to match EotM, rather than nerf EotM to make it just as pointless as WvW…

second this
wvw is unrewarding compared to pve for your time

Well now WvW is pve… Just minus the rewards.